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webofdreams89
Topic: Major V.C.A. discussion here!!
Okay, here you can talk about anything.........as long as it pertains somehow to V.C. Andrews/ ghost writer and her marvolous works of literature.

Let's get this discussion going!

#1 Jun 08th 2006, 5:18am
Lady Knight 1512
OK, um, i guess i'll get us started. Don't really know what to talk about exactly. How about differences between the books V.C wrote personally and the ones done by the ghost writer? I can see the differences when i read the books, but they're a bit hard to explain. I guess you could say the feel of the books is different. Anyone agree?
#2 Aug 05th 2006, 8:07pm
webofdreams89
i totally agree. if you've read all of the books (or even just a few by each author) it's noticable. the ghost writer keeps the dialog in the same style but there's just something that doesn't make it seem like the real v.c. andrews.
#3 Aug 07th 2006, 2:08pm
BubblyShell22
I've read Flowers in the Attic, and I just didn't like it. It was too disturbing. The ghost writer's books are better. While they may have some incest, he tries to make it seem as though the people aren't related. Like Philip and Dawn. Dawn didn't know that Philip was her brother, and when she found out, she didn't want to love him in that way. Do you get what I'm saying.
#4 Aug 31st 2006, 11:52am
Lady Knight 1512
Yeah, that's true, but V.C had the whole incest thing going as well, even if it was involuntary on the girl's part. First there was Cathy and Chris (i love that series btw, except for Garden of Shadows. It was based on a true story) and then Leigh in the Casteel series was raped by Tony. It's still there, but covered up so that we don't immediately think of it in that respect.
#5 Sep 01st 2006, 2:45pm
BubblyShell22
Yeah, I get what you're saying. It is covered up or sometimes made to seem not as bad as it would be. Like the Logan series. Melody and Cary started out as cousins, but found out they weren't related.
#6 Sep 05th 2006, 10:41am
Lady Knight 1512
Yeah, the Logan series is a perfect example. It's a good thing they weren't cousisn in the end though. They are my fave couple!
#7 Sep 05th 2006, 5:23pm
webofdreams89
Melody and Cary were sort of cousins though. They have the same great-grandparents because Olivia and Belinda have the same parents (at least have the same mom. i think it says in "olivia" that she had a different dad) and that would make Belinda and Olivia's children first cousins, so cary and melody would be some sort of second or third cousin to eachother. either way, though, it's not really a big deal because they arn't that closely related.
#8 Sep 11th 2006, 1:36pm
BubblyShell22
Yeah, I think the only relationship that truly disturbed me was Chris and Cathy. It just made me shiver. Ruby and Paul wasn't that bad because Ruby truly didn't want it to happen because she loved Beau.
#9 Sep 11th 2006, 1:44pm
Lady Knight 1512
You're right. Chris and Cathy IS disturbing. As for Paul, well, i never really liked him anyway!
#10 Sep 12th 2006, 9:45pm
BubblyShell22
I didn't mind Paul at all. He was okay. I hated his mom though. She's a b*tch. But I'm glad Ruby and Beau got together.
#11 Sep 13th 2006, 1:23pm
Lady Knight 1512
Absolutely. I agree with you 100% there!
#12 Sep 14th 2006, 12:22am
webofdreams89
honestly, i didn't like beau all that much. well, at first he was okay, but then i disliked him. i mean, he actually married that skank giselle. ewww! and then, because right after his wife is in this horrible accident, he basically dumps her so he can be with his true love that he never should have abandoned in the first place. if some guy left me when i was pregnant, i would never take him back.
#13 Sep 15th 2006, 12:27pm
Lady Knight 1512
You do make a good point. I probably wouldn't do what Ruby did either. Still, this is a VCA book and we all know how the women in these books are. They're all very romantic, trusting, naive souls.
#14 Sep 15th 2006, 2:36pm
BubblyShell22
Yeah, and Beau didn't leave her on purpose. He was basically forced to leave her.
#15 Sep 18th 2006, 11:01am
Lady Knight 1512
True, but he could have been a little more strong-willed, don't you think? Like, he could have stood up for himself and Ruby, rather than running away.
#16 Sep 18th 2006, 2:03pm
BubblyShell22
Yeah, but if he did that, he would have lost his inheritance. Plus, he admitted in "All That Glitters" that he made a mistake, but Ruby said that he did the right thing.
#17 Sep 19th 2006, 10:50am
Lady Knight 1512
It's been ages since i read the Landry series; i totally forgot about the inheritance bit. Just imagine though, what the world would be like if we ALL forgave people who "made a mistake". The divorce rates would be so low they'd be non-existant.
#18 Sep 19th 2006, 5:19pm
BubblyShell22
You have a point there.
#19 Sep 20th 2006, 5:10am
GrayRainbows
Well, I can see that I'm probably posting in the wrong place, as no one who's spoken up so far is likely to agree with me, but... :) It's beyond me how anyone could prefer the GW books to the true VCA ones.

I've altogether given up reading the new books since the Rain/Hudson series (which was actually decent, for the GW), because I continue to be disappointed by them. The ghost-writer is awful, the quality of his work isn't

at all what VCA's was, and it depresses me that they continue to churn out books under her name, and I can't imagine she'd be proud of these books. I feel

I'm reading material meant for younger and younger readers all the time, and although the Flowers and first two Heaven books were mainly about young characters,

there isn't the same sense that you're reading books meant for teenagers, as with the ghost-written books, which have so little depth. I won't waste my money and time on them anymore,

unless they get a new ghost-writer... which doesn't seem likely. They should just stop putting out VCA books altogether, in my opinion. (It's not that these GW books exist that disturbs me, let me clarify, only that they bear VCA's name.)

However, the REAL VCA books are permanently on my shelf of favorites, and they're always good for a re-read.

About the incest: the Melody/Cary pairing just makes my skin crawl! That, to me, does have the feel of incest about it. At least with Chris and Cathy, you see that there are reasons. I don't condone the fact that they got together AFTER they left Foxworth Hall, or that they raised children together; I think it was a huge mistake to involve anyone but themselves in their relationship. Perhaps if Cathy had not had children, I could more easily excuse it. ... Melody and Cary had no reason to get together. They had other opportunities, and clearly, that wasn't right. Plus, personally, I just can't stand either of them; they're both whiny, and Cary's jealousy is annoying!

#20 Oct 09th 2006, 6:31pm
BubblyShell22
You're entitled to your opinion, but I like the new books. I think they are good.
#21 Oct 12th 2006, 12:17pm
SlateRose
I agree with grayrainbows about the GW. I read a few of the GW books but I found most of them to be very repetative. To me they all seemed to have the same storyline, just different character names.

&& I heart Cathy&Chris.

#22 Feb 22nd 2007, 4:37pm
BubblyShell22
I don't feel that way at all. I feel that each series is different and unique. I love the minseries books the best like the Orphans and the Wildflowers. Those series are very good.
#23 Mar 26th 2007, 1:46pm
Lady Knight 1512
SlateRose makes a good point. Many of the books seem to just repeat themselves nowadays. In fact, i can't remember the last time i actually picked up a VCA, let alone READ one. The last one i read was Child of Darkness, or whatever it's called, and found that the series bored me to tears, even though it was really different from the other books. Still, after a while, it can feel as though you're reading the same book over and over again, with different characters. The themes are pretty constant throughout as well. As i said, the Gemini series seems to be an exception.

On a slightly different note, wasn't there a new series coming out? Or did i miss the first book already? I can't remember what it was called, but there was a character by the name of Ian i think. That series sounded interesting and i wanted to read it. I may have to check the site out about that one...

#24 Mar 26th 2007, 8:48pm
BubblyShell22
Yes, those two books are Broken Flower and Scattered Leaves. They are very good books and I liked reading them.

I know you feel that the books are repetitive, but I feel that they are all good books to read no matter what. That's just my take on it.

#25 Apr 09th 2007, 9:09am
Lady Knight 1512
'Broken Flower' and 'Scattered Leaves'? Cool. I will keep an eye out for those. Thanks Bubbly!
#26 Apr 09th 2007, 5:26pm
vicious like the blue sky
Does anyone still post here?
#27 Jun 03rd 2007, 1:19pm
Lady Knight 1512
I've been meaning to for a couple of weeks actually, because i finally got hold of and read 'Broken Flower', but i never got around to FF.net and consequently, the intentional post never got ... posted.
#28 Jun 03rd 2007, 10:58pm
webofdreams89
the new series sounds good though. i think the new book is called 'secrets in the attic' though i don't like the name because it's a little too close to the book that started it all...
#29 Jun 11th 2007, 8:32pm
Lady Knight 1512
There's a new series? Or are we still talking about the 'Broken Flower' one? Gosh i hope we're not talking about that, coz then it would be even closer to the original series than before, what with both the flower and attic references.
#30 Jun 11th 2007, 9:15pm
BubblyShell22
No, Broken Flower is a separate series. I think the Secrets in the Attic one is different. I think it comes out in October.
#31 Jun 14th 2007, 3:10pm
Lady Knight 1512
Oh, a separate series? That's all right then, isn't it? It sounds interesting actually. I wouldn't mind reading it at all. Of course, that might change when i see a blurb or summary.
#32 Jun 14th 2007, 6:32pm
BubblyShell22
Well, I'll find out in October when it comes out.
#33 Jul 19th 2007, 9:09am
RetroGeek

Well I guess no one posts here anymore, but I'll post anyway. (:

My favorite series that I've read so far has hands down been the Dollanganger series. Before I even started reading Flowers in the Attic, my friend showed me the part where Chris raped Cathy and told me they were brother and sister and I admit, at first I was a bit disturbed, but when I actually read the whole book, the inscest thing didn't even bother me. I actually love Chris and Cathy together.

I did not like any of the other men Cathy was with except for Chris. The teenager/adult romance relationship has always creeped me out a bit. I didn't like Cathy with Paul because once again of the creepiness, but also he molested her and statutory raped her.

I didn't like Cathy with Bart Snr. too much. He raped her.

Also, I did not like Cathy and Julian together. He raped and physically abused her.

Now I know Chris raped her also and I hated him for that, but I've always felt the love between them. *shrugs*

As for the Casteel series, I loved it. I HATE Heaven with Logan. Especially after he slept with Fanny. I guess Heaven's also at fault here because she slept with Troy too, but I love Heaven and Troy together. Too bad they couldn't be together. Now the thing that really ticks me off is how come it's ok for a brother and sister to be together but not an uncle an niece? I just don't get that.

As for the GW, he's not a bad writer. I just think he tries too hard with the details. Shattered Hearts was a great book even though VCA didn't write it herself.

Anyway, I'm done ranting here. I doubt anyone will read this but oh well. (:

#34 Jul 01st 2008, 7:46pm
lalababee

i totally agree. i like the GW, and i love the casteel. i also love the Celeste series. they were...amazing.

#35 Aug 30th 2008, 11:25am

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