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421252Bubblesrocks
2009-11-23 . chapter 2
cool:D
Darkslayer18
2009-11-21 . chapter 1
update pls! :3 pls
mimarin
2009-11-03 . chapter 8
YES, finally Kenny calls out Kyle on his bullshit! I may be biased, since Kenny is my favorite SP character, but I wish we could see more of his relationship with Christophe -- if anything, the gunplay sounds extremely hot. I also dig the peek into other characters' perspectives, especially since Kyle has been a flaming asshole this entire story. Seriously, when he yelled at Wendy that "Kenny like tried to rape me this morning," despite the fact that *Kyle* was the one who made a physical pass, I wanted to smack him with a bag of dicks. As for the others: your Cartman is spot-on, and I dig your portrayal of Wendy as perceptive, scheming, reasonable with friends (playing peace-maker at the party) and crazy-bitch-psychotic with people who hit a nerve (Butters). And Craig. Oh, Craig. Not sure I buy him as being so verbally demonstrative; I can't picture him talking about his feelings in such an open manner, even with the supposed person he loves. All the same, I super-empathized with him when he broke up with Kyle.
mimarin
2009-11-02 . chapter 3
okay, as much as i'm invested in the plot, it's the throwaway lines in the story that slay me. The Grapes of Wrath: poor people and titty sucking being the summation of Kenny's life, Christophe's yen for "hot guy-on-guy brutality.”
mimarin
2009-11-02 . chapter 1
“I can’t even hold my own cock while I pee. That’s apparently why I peed on the floor last week. Oh, they were not happy about that, no no no.”

BWAH! For some reason, the addition of swear words makes Tweek even more hilarious. And even though I adore adore adore The Mole, I snorfled at the mention of a kid "with a nausea-inducing faux French accent" -- it's a refreshing change from Christophe's oral tics being excruciatingly spelled out.
cHeRRy bloSSoM72
2009-10-28 . chapter 9
In some alternate universe, or fanfiction, it'd be really nice for Craig and Kyle to work things out and be together.
ANYWAYS. I adored the ending of this chapter OF COURSE. It was just too cute having Kyle listen to the mix tape, argue about it with Craig and then go tackle Stan on the football field. lol.
I can't wait to hear the ending and all that jazz :)
Darkslayer18
2009-10-23 . chapter 9
Woo i love this story update quickly i wanna know wat happens XD i stayed up all night reading this took a long ass time without soda though...and im exhausted but the story was way to good to just stop reading so yea...good job
sailem618
2009-10-21 . chapter 9
ohmai! i love this so much! X3 keep ups the gewd work! ^^d
Foodstamp
2009-07-29 . chapter 8
It’s really hard to know how to start with this one because I always read through this chapter without stopping. It’s got an insane amount of drive, does that make sense? It feels like it’s surging forward at a new and faster pace than the other ones have. I guess I see it as a dark turning point. I love it.

Kenny is—well, he’s basically fucking insane. I know I’ve said some words about FH Kyle, and that’s what Kenny is here, except this is a very gleeful, unsettling kind of unpredictability. I want to be happy that he takes pride in his deaths, but this one was so incredibly disconcerting that I don’t know if that’s a good thing. His repetition of “I’m here now, aren’t I?” makes me nervous because I think he’s always been the verbally exact character in this fic. I’m so glad that he’s finally pissed; Kyle really needed to listen to him…yet this is a really scary context for it. Like Kyle, I’m really freaked out that he’s angry. Oh, and I can’t believe that Ky still inches instinctively toward him for sexual comfort after all that’s happened—that’s definitely a statement about how desperate he really is, despite his drama being briefly overshadowed by Kenny’s.

Kenny really feels like he’s about to crack.

Was Kyle aware that he’s done things with Kenny before? If he was, cool, I’m glad his technique improved (or else Craig is just nice and was lying to him). If he wasn’t, it’s pretty funny that he gets worried about his performance before freaking out about having a sexual encounter that he can’t remember. (I assume this was not, like, a home run. That’s a weird idea…what if Kyle’s been saving himself for Stan after already losing it to Kenny? I don’t think you’re that mean.)

This is one of the first times that you switch from Kyle to another subject. Haven’t we seen Stan before? Kenny’s perspective is new, and I love everything about his mother, from her bitterness to her speech patterns to her obliviousness to her son’s situation. This story probably doesn’t call for it, but I wouldn’t mind seeing more of the McCormicks sometime. You do all the families so, so well.

The emphasis on “boy” in “for the first time since he was a boy” strikes me as really bizarre. It has so many implications; it reads so many different ways. Some of those ways would make for insane plot twists, let me tell you.

I think it’s exciting that South Park High School offers things like Latin and AP classes. I don’t know if many small town schools do that. Mine didn’t have much in the way of advanced curriculums, and I’m a city girl. It’s kind of thrilling, the idea of a little mountain town breeding all these very well-educated people—and the theory of a good school system would totally explain the boys in the actual show! Well, at least in some episodes. Great idea, either way.

I absolutely love that Wendy is the one to break Kyle’s isolation. I am a fan of their interaction in any capacity, because I think they would get along very well. It’s cute that Wendy herself wasn’t observant enough to realize Craig’s feelings for Kyle: even a smart student had to resort to the rumor mill for her facts; that’s how closed off Craig can be.

The way Wendy explained how she wasn’t mad at Cartman…that is really beautiful. It’s true, too. She got herself involved with him knowing full well what he was. That makes me root for them, because she loves him despite his faults. Their relationship got very genuine to me with this scene.

Kyle’s analysis of Butters still seems harsh. I don’t think he’s as dumb as people think he is. Then again, Kyle has always been kind of quick to judge, but it doesn’t mean that his opinions are concrete or irrevocable. Look at the way he examines Wendy! He hates her nose, hates her lipstick, but she acknowledges all the good things about her, including her beauty. He also can’t understand how she could hate Butters. In the end, for Kyle, it always comes down to these people in terms of their relevance to himself…the way I think it works for most people, if they’re honest with themselves. I am not quite sure what you mean by his “affinity for Wendy’s leftovers,” though.)

Did we know that Kyle’s been with so many other guys until just now? Fuck, I can’t remember, but I love that. Didn’t Wendy give off the impression of being fairly sexual herself around chapter six? That makes it even better that these two are talking to each other, because they’ve got even more common ground than they knew.

So far, Wendy is perhaps the only character to react positively to Kyle’s “no one cares about me speech.” That lovely awkward hug moves me so damn much. Despite his occasional selfishness, Kyle has deserved an ally since the beginning of the fic.

And then we have Kenny again! I love this. Specifically, I love seeing everyone else through his eyes, because he is such a neutral. As a rule, I don’t trust any one character’s perspective, but I do think his is the closest to being objective. Interesting: Stan connects the French to Christophe and offers a compliment, which Kenny rebuffs. Kenny’s not looking for approval. He’s looking for friendship. Kenny is smart enough to know the difference.

It’s really sweet and in-character that Stan knows to apologize, but can’t quite pinpoint why he needs to. It was like With Apologies to Jesse Jackson. I love it when you take episodes and remold their contexts.

I peed a little when Stan started talking about being in love, and Kenny’s “slaughtered calf” comment is truly chilling, considering.

We definitely needed to hear another character admit that Kyle is selfish. Thank you. Kenny’s imitation of him goes on a shade longer than Stan feels necessary, which is absolutely perfect. (This probably isn’t important, but how did Kenny find out that he beat up Ike? Oh, small towns.)

For just a brief second, Stan was winning this fight against Kenny to me, but Kenny always makes such good points. He’s rational. You get the idea from him that if it were anyone else calling him a whore, he’d listen, but Stan and Kyle have no right. Kenny kind of wins the reader vote by being the person who can hit Stan, scare Kyle, and still do these amazing and contradictory things like sleep around and fall in love and say “Don’t be afraid” and then commit suicide repeatedly. God, of all the people in this fic, he is still the one I’m really worrying about. Let things be okay for him. He deserves it.

By the way, I love how you coupled these “forming alliances” scenes. They’re just about as different as you can get, and the contrast is so effective.

I maybe know a very tiny bit about Aeneas from the opera (which is doubly funny because I learned about it while studying that British kid who reminds me of Pip; he was Dido in a play) and you picked a totally relevant way to incorporate it. I fucking love how Cartman and Kyle finally take each other on under the guise of scholarly interest. They are smart people. They deserve that clever kind of confrontation, and you delivered.

I do believe Wendy when she says she knows him better than anyone else. Her take on Cartman’s motives for hanging out with Frank Granger—it seems so fucking obvious! Is that really what it was? Is it really that deceptively simple? I don’t want to argue with it, because it would devalue Wendy’s bond with him, but at the same time, I’ve been theorizing all sorts of crazy bullshit. But I could totally be reading too much into it. I’ll kind of feel like a jackass no matter what happens, though I’ll probably be too thrilled with a solid answer to care. God, Sekrit, you’re good.

This line: “Well, like everyone, Jews are hypocrites.” I laughed for so long. It’s actually like an understatement for another one of this story’s themes. I know, Foodstamp talks too much about themes and shit, but they’re so epic in this.

I actually can’t imagine Cartman logically not being a good football player, so thanks for not skirting that issue, and I get strangely excited at the mere mention of football in fic because it’s the most common way to unite Cartman and Stan in an interest. I only noticed when Stan ignored his call that it’s been a very long time since Kenny’s talked about Cartman…he really is withdrawing from the fic in a weird, indirect kind of way. Like, his presence probably hasn’t changed percentage-wise, but he’s definitely getting more and more disconnected from everyone. (I’m the anti-Kyle: it’s all about Kenny, man.) That not-so-nice interaction between Stan and Ken and the end of that car ride was comforting, though. It was so natural. I loved it.

MORE OF YOUR RANDY, THANK YOU THANK YOU. More of the Marshes! As a member of a very family-dinner-oriented family, I feel for Stan (except the, um, rather huge hating the parents part). There are days when I totally understand, though.

I know comparing your fanfics is kind of a useless practice, as they’re separate universes, but I love hearing that Sharon is cubing onions perfectly here whereas she’s fucking murdering them in “I Came A Long Way To See You.” If this were that fic, no way Stan would dare call her “Sharon” when she’s holding a knife. Hell yeah! Watch it, or I’ll start grouping your fics into prologue-afterward duos. Just kidding, I won’t. At least not out loud.

Once again, this site’s character restrictions kill me, so too fast: again, Randy is epic. He’s so adorably disbelieving when he realizes Stan’s talking to him, and he’s clueless and obnoxious and…so very Randy. The comedic timing is perfect with how quickly that scene comes and goes. I can’t wait to see what happens next—this is a very lighthearted way to end a chapter, which we needed after that last one. I get the feeling that shit is either going to hit the fan or turn to gold. Don’t know what we’re in for, but it’s fucking huge.

Thank you for another AMAZING chapter.
Foodstamp
2009-07-29 . chapter 7
First impression: Craig is kind of characterized in these sloppy make-out sessions, don’t you think? I mean it as a compliment, and I think you did this on purpose, but Craig is very carnal and animalistic and messy. I don’t see him as the type to walk on eggshells around someone, and he doesn’t do that for Kyle. That said, I seriously doubt I would appreciate Craig’s technique. Kyle seems to react well to all of it, though, and that’s what counts—after all, he’s the one who’s really feeling it. Though I do think that up until now Kyle’s responses have been as lukewarm as they can possibly be while still being positive. (That was a horrible way of saying that his body’s into it, but his heart is in a different place…or so I like to imagine!)

You know what line resonates with me? The way Kyle feels gross. I’ve tried to do romantic things when I’m feeling not-so-fresh, and it just doesn’t work.

The CraigxKyle scene was really hot, but like any erotic piece of fiction that contains some intellectual presence, you temper it with pacing and emotional abstraction by means of Kyle being an introspective character. I was really moved that he was thinking about how Craig is a good person while they’re being physical. That seemed like a good sign, given his reluctance—did I get the right impression, that Kyle is hesitant here?—and it’s not something you expect to hear during a (pre) sex scene. Good placement; it was poignant, and worked so well. Also the way he began thinking about what Stan would do. That was exactly how close you could get to the StanxKyle without being cliché or cheap, because although Kyle’s thoughts were neutral, they were still…thoughts about Stan while Craig is lying on top of him. I love how you know these things and execute them without ever going overboard.

Kyle has this line where he’s like, “Have you ever not been able to do something you want to do?” and Craig just says no. I think that speaks volumes about who they are. In this context, it feels like this is a difference in their personalities that actually makes them incompatible. Also, Craig offering to bottom makes him a super cool guy in my mind, not because I don’t think real gay guys switch it up, but because it doesn’t immediately seem like something Craig would do. I do think that this is one of the nicest Craigs I’ve ever read, though. Perhaps because he’s invested in Kyle emotionally, he’s not at all a dick.

Though Craig slyly commenting on his own huge penis in response to Kyle’s hesitancy is fucking AWESOME. I laughed so hard.

Craig’s “I love you” is sweet. It hurt my heart and almost makes me want to see Kyle with Stan. I’ll be honest, I feel like Stan is going to need to shape up a lot to make him a better boyfriend than Craig—to the readers, that is, not to Kyle. This situation is so realistic because you can’t expect someone to love the “right” person. Love is tricky like that. Love is imperfect and irrational and it lifts you up where you belong! The thing that upsets me most with this situation is the fact that Craig totally knew it was Stan right away. Kyle acknowledged it, though, and that feels like progress.

Oops, sorry, went on about that for too long.

I’d almost forgotten about the black ribbon on the lilies! Was it supposed to represent the end of their relationship? That seems like the most logical interpretation, but it’s just so incredibly ominous that I feel like death is going to be a recurring theme—hopefully not in too terrible of a way. Either way, it seems just goth enough, and I approve. Lilies are my favorite flower and I would love to get a bouquet wrapped in black ribbon.

I am horribly biased against scenes where characters are looking in the mirrors and thinking about how they look. Because I’m pessimistic, the exception is when they’re thinking about how hideous they are! I love that the previous paragraph is about how Kyle wishes Craig could see him, which he quickly decides against when he sees how he looks. That rationale could be so many things: vanity, respect for Craig, general embarrassment…maybe all of them. The confliction of Kyle’s emotion is so real.

I adore the visual of the flowers bruising on the sink.

Sorry, this part is crit: the whole thing with Kyle when he gets home—he’s really freaking overwrought, right? That part really does push it in terms of how sympathetic he is as a character. Hands down, this is the “worst” Kyle ever gets, which makes sense with what’s just happened with Craig. Yet there must be a reason why this is the ugliest side of him you ever see. I mean, of all things, him hurting Ike was almost too much for me to take even after all the work you’ve done making me like Kyle. From a narrative standpoint, I’m trying to figure out why he had to physically lash out at his little brother. Will the scene be functional by the end of the fic? Right now, it just kind of hurts. And makes me dislike Kyle.

What does work, though, is the talk with Sheila. I love how readily she defends him as any other non-interfering parent of a heterosexual child would. That Sheila is most normal as a guardian is so sweet! You also get the impression that this is the first time Kyle has really confided in her, so the whole thing is very tender, very relieving after the shit that went down with Ike.

Everyone knows about Stan, don’t they? Also, I almost forgot about the study! You reminded me in just the right place.

The following morning, we have Ike and Kyle: Part II! I do wish that Kyle wouldn’t have continued to be a dick, especially to his mother (it almost devalues the soft scene before it), but Ike picked a very smart way of combating him, as demonstrated in the very symbolic fight over the remote. Ike lets it go. Kyle holds on, as he has a habit of doing, and pays for it. Nice.

I get the impression that Stan is too much of a gentleman to leave Bebe, despite his unfavorable morning-after feelings for her. That means a lot to me. (I actually threw my phone against a wall today a la Kyle and left a huge dent that I now have to fill myself. We’re already calling it my little hole of humility.)

Craig demonstrates such incredible class and maturity by being the one who keeps the breakup with Kyle real, despite the fact that he still has feelings for him. I’d say that it’s unrealistic, but your Craig is too solid, too sharp. I really, really hope he has a happy ending. He deserves that.

I’ve been thinking a lot about the symbolism of these tables, and I can’t yet figure out why Kyle sits at the straight one following his breakup. I’d say it was a kind of spite-motivated rebound, but that seems too basic. Maybe he’s bridging the two sexualities? Kenny’s there too. Well, I’ll get back to you on this one. Two things I noticed and loved about that scene: first that Clyde and Craig still confide in each other, because I wasn’t quite sure (we even find out the degree of their friendship, in how Clyde doesn’t pay too much attention to him); and second that Kenny is kind enough to ask for the details even after Kyle has repeatedly shown no interest whatsoever in his own crap. Love that evil look Tweek gives Kyle, too.

Cartman’s stunt was very Cartman-like; I appreciated it because it is so incredibly classic. Great small characteristic detail.

To me, the final bit with Kenny sums up the whole tone of this chapter. This has by far been the saddest one, and it represents a very distinct darker twist. Dead, Kenny embodies so many principles and recurring themes—we have the end of a relationship in this chapter, the black ribbon on the lilies, a strain in family relations, an unresolved fight between Kyle and Stan. Such intense stuff. While this probably can’t be my favorite part because of the sheer sadness of it all (I cried), I understand how important it is, and thank you again for all the lovely writing. This last scene was written beautifully, with almost brutal vividness. So much incredible stuff here. I apologize for this shitty review; they always seem way too inadequate.
BlackRoseMuffin
2009-07-11 . chapter 8
Long chapters are long.

I... Kind of supported KyleCraig... But after a while, I resumed being a creepy StanKyle supporter... I think I was a little (okay, more than a little) happy when Kyle said that he couldn't do it with Craig. Also, I sorta giggled when he was being a b-tch to Ike. He has male PMS, I swear. And I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Why must all good multi-chaptered StanKyle fics have to start out with either both people clueless about their love for each other or one of them pines after the other? Sigh.
Chou ni Natte
2009-04-03 . chapter 1
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aokii
2009-02-17 . chapter 8
OMG! you upload!! *O*
thanks thanks thanks!!
I was starting to lose hope!!
I really love this story ^^!!
thanks! I love it!
Harlequin Girl
2009-01-21 . chapter 7
oh. my. god.

I know you haven't updated in forever but I just love this story. Even though I love NO ONE in this story hahaha. Everyone just pisses me off so much, in true teenage fashion.

Kyle especially hahaha. What a fcuking deckwad. honestly hahaha. He's so mean to Ike! And poor Kenny omg. Poor everyone! I hope Stan and Kyle get the fcuk over themselves if you ever decide to update haha. And Kenny! GOD I feel so bad for him. He needs someone who makes him want to live. Like Butters -cough-. Sorry I'm such a bunny shipper hah. I feel so bad for Butters. And lol at Wendy/Cartman hahah they're so fcuked up.

I just feel bad for everyone! hahah except Craig I think. Oh well.

omg update soon please? prety please?
The Brat Prince
2008-12-27 . chapter 7
Hm, so you should update. I'm not a fan of Kyle being a whiny bitch, which he most certainly is in this fic, but I love the dialogue. Plus I'm intrigued by the plot, which is more than I can say about most SP fics.
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