Ranma yelling at Mikado: AKANE'S MY FIANCEE, TOUCH HER AND ILL KILL YOU.

Also in the Romeo and juliet play Ranma is sulking cause they didnt actually kiss.

And in the Dojo Ranma and Akane our actually considering it until Nabiki interupts. Plus Akane gets jeolous of Ranma. Ranma declares his love to the heavens with saffron incident.

Akane starts crying when Ranma leaves to get rid of the moxibustion happi put on him.

Why shampoo and Ukyou wouldnt work.

If he married Shampoo he'd haf ta go ta the amazon village and be shampoo's **.

He considers ukyou a friend.

About akane not cooking Kasumi said she had to start by boiling water before she was any good.

Yes you are right I am a fellow akane supporter. I agree with you on all your points and there are hundreds more. Anyone who can't see this bond usally has a bias or wants somthing else...but we must remember that they have a right to thier own opinions. But the strongest evidance we have to support akane& ranma pairing is that Rumiko Takiashi (The creator of Ranma(you probably already knew that)) said once that Ranma and Akane were ment to be together and she had intended them to marry. Yes and if you want to see some of the reasons i found to support this pairing go to the other topic and read my posts...

Ich werde Sie später sehen!,

Joe

P.S. Anyone who reads this, i am tired and i don't think i phrased things in the nicest or non-pompous manner, so forgive me if i sound rude, curt, or like a jerk....

First and foremost yer both ignorant and obviously can't see past a the present and into future possibilites. First you say Ranma would be Shampoo's **, but yet the author has never once truely given any of us sold proof that that would happen. In fact thats all more or less from other fanfic authors who ALSO can't see possible outcomes and really don't think about the future. In defence of Shampoo not only do you not have solid evidense to proove that Ranma would be nothing more than a **, but you also seem completely blind to other possibilities as well. "I" could yell out that I loved a girl at school that I knew and then everyone would beleive it, even if I was lying my ** off at the time. Why? Because as a whole it was so unexpected that even if it was just a dare or to win a compition because I couldn't stand to loose in ANYTHING I was roped into, people would still beleive other wise. If you want to get into an argumnet about Shampoo bring it on, I'm fully prepaired to defend the purple haired bimbo just becuase you can't see past a violent tomboy who's adeled yer brains somehow. Half the time I here you Akane supporters talk I'm getting a picture of either Soun or Genma in your place!

Now Ukyu is the only one ya got right. For Cannon perposes all Ranma will EVER see is a friend, BUT there IS the "possibility" that that could turn into something more. My best friend's parents were childhood friends and they met up years later a kicked it off just fine. So yes, it IS a possibility.

Now yer probbably wondering why I got mad at ya for SHampoo but not Ukyu, right? Well its SIMPLE, its because ya don't think! yer only going on assumptions! While the REAL Greek Amazons did in fact look down upon men as nothing more than breeding stock, these Chinese "Amazons" as the anime producers call them for us Americans ARE NOT IN FACT AMAZONS AT ALL!! If you ACTUALLY comapir the two you'd see the difference, but NOOOoooo, you want to think what ya want without looking up the facts.

Well I guess its true what they say: Ignorance IS Bliss.

I'm not even gonna say anything about Akane, simply becuase I don't rightfully care. You can have all the delusions you want, Genma-err, I mean Rowloman.

I'm just here to point out the facts. And more than that..

THAT YOU ARE WRONG!!

Hate to say it but same question to you! Where is /your/ proof!?

In fact thats all more or less from other fanfic authors who ALSO can't see possible outcomes and really don't think about the future. In defence of Shampoo not only do you not have solid evidense to proove that Ranma would be nothing more than a **, but you also seem completely blind to other possibilities as well.

Yeah.. yeah... ok... again where is your proof? There are plenty of fanfics saying that Ranma wouldn't be Shampoo's ** but honestly, considering Mousse's role in society there. Considering the LAWS are to get men for breeding stock, the LIKELY conclusion suported by the collected data is that Shampoo wants Ranma to be her **. She wants strong babies and I tell you what Ranma would give some strong genetics. Cologne knows it, and Shampoo knows it.

Sorry! It's the likely conclusion. No reason to have you b***in about something that is almost guaranteed truth. Sure sure, there is the possibility that Shampoo's village is has equal rights and all... It's not like we ever really see into the village much. But I doubt it. Men aren't allowed to compete in martial arts challenges? Men are considered inferior?

Sorry. YOU are wrong.

Akane is just fine. Sure she hits Ranma on the head but show me a fiancee who doesn't do that or worse! Shampoo drugs him! Akane is a bad cook and drugs him herself but she damn well doesn't mean too. Yeah Yeah the road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that. But still, she likes Ranma and is too stubborn to show it! That is why she cooks. (No I have no proof. This is a hypothesis formed by the given information. You know... like her being jealous all the time when Shampoo glomps onto him and fights over him as if he is her property?) Sure, fine we can believe that. Again, by then end she had boiled water in the anime episode and in the manga if I remember right! She would get better, without a doubt.

No one here is blind, save for maybe you. Considering Takahashi SAID it was her intention to have Ranma and Akane marry! You Blind **! She's the author! Sure the future is full of possibilites if it were real life! But life is governed in anime by it's author and SORRY BUDDY But "Takahashi Said So!"

So before you get your panties in a bunch, take a look at that Violent Tomboy yourself! How often is she violent? Really, the answer is "Not too often!" Your mind has been adled by fanfictions portraying her as the evil ** that she most definately is NOT. By episode like 3 they are getting along and by the Romeo and Juliet they are thinking of Kissing! Ranma is willing to go back to china in order to get her to remember him during the Shampoo Formula 411 incident. (I think it's 411) China! He doesn't really care for her? yeah... right... tell me another story bob.

To conclude my own rant! Yes! Takahashi never gave proof that Ranma would be Shampoos **. But she never once gave proof that he wouldn't be either! Where the hell is your proof of that and how do you justify calling someone at ** for their own opinion!?

Damnit, that ticks me off...

I personally do believe that Akane is the best one for Ranma. She is as stubborn as he is. Is my opinion swayed by this? Yes. Do I think less of shampoo for it? not at all. I've read many fanfictions with Ranma/Shampoo and enjoyed them immensely!

Just because you don't like a character doesn't mean you have to go calling people who do ignorant idiots. It's rude and immature and quite frankly makes you seem like a child.

As a side note, I agree about Ukyo.

Anyways, As to Underdark stating that the Amazons are not in fact the same as the Greek Counterparts who go by the same name. Well more of less, he's correct about that statement. The original name of Xain Pu and Cu Lon's tribe was some mouthfull "Village of strong women" or some such. I don't remember the exact name but that is true. Also I looked up on wikepidia.org about Amazons. They even have some compairative notes between the real Greek Amazons (which should really be turkish now, since they were locted in today's Turkey) And the Ranma Amazons.

In some instances I'll have to agrea, they are Amazons witht he whole Matriarcale Rule bit and women warriors, HOWEVER and this is a big however, these Junsenkyo "Amazons" are far different from the their Greek counterparts. First FACT: The Greek Amazons would not let ANY male into their lands. If cuaght they would be immeadiatly caught and killed, even men born to Amazonian women were either killed or sent down river in bascets, leaving them to whatever horrors the babes may find. They of course would Keep the females.

Second FACT: The Greek Amazons would, once a year, go out and find sutable men to try and have kids with. usualy threw combat, if the man won he was acceptable, if he tied, he was acceptable, if he was good looking and in shape (even if he wasn't a warrior) he was acceptable.

Third FACT: They did not bring the men back with them, nor did they Marry them in ANY fashion

Fourth FACT: the Junsenkyo "Amazons" married the men who beat them, thus implying a higher level of status than just "breeding stock" as you put it, Materia.

Fifth FACT: Mu Tze (Mousse) has obviously had many more privalages than any "Breeding Stock" would ever be ALLOWED. Even if only about half of the men in the village were close to the same calaber of strength Mousse had and the condistions are as bad as you clame them to be, why not just leave. They have enough power to get past a few gaurds and scouts along the way without much trouble. But they obviously have more free reign than you believe.

Sixth FACT: All potions used by Shampoo and Colone have been shown to be temporary, now weather they have something more perminent stashed away or not is left to be seen. But if they do then why not just go ahead and use it? I believe that in this instance this is likely some odd clash of cultures. What we perceive as trickery they may only see as simple games.

Seventh FACT: The kisses of Death and Marriage are more of less quandaries in my honest opinion, however since they ARE in the storyline they much be addressed. I truely have no idea if these laws are absolute or not. Obviously who exprects the same set of sercumstances that Ranma was involved in? The worst the Junsenkyo "Amazons" gave Xain Pu was a Jusenkyo Curse, which really isn't all that bad when you think about it (exact if ya fel into the one Taro did). Who honestly expects the girl you're supposed to kill turn out to be a guy you're supposed to marry? So she went home in shame and they gave her a Junsenkyo curse for her failer, from which she then finds out the girl wasn't really a girl in the first place but the guy she was supposed to marry? For obvious reasons, the Junsenkyo "Amazons" probably know exactly where the spring of drowned girl is if the guide knows. So in her own attempt to restore her honor she goes back to try and Marry Ranma. Her punishment can't get any worse than her curse, becuase in some instances its worse to keep living with obvious signs of shame marking you for the rest of your life. Death would be a pleasent release from that shame.

Now enough of that.

As to Akane, I'll have to agrea that she wasn't that bad all the time as all the Akane haters make her out to be, but when she was she was really REALLY bad. Akane's faults and I'm sure you can agrea mostly stemp from her pride, her conceededness, and her stubborness. The girl doesn't take well to to being wrong, she REALLY doesn't take well to being shown up (i.e. Ranma), she hates it when people attempt to help her with something she assumes she is perfectly capable of (cooking), and perfectly incable of seening the obvious (P-chan). She has been shown to be very jelious of the other girls going after Ranma, not that I blame her, they ARE better looking AND better fighters AND better cooks to boot!

Personaly I just don't care for Akane myself, but I'm not going to bad mouth her, I'm simply stating the facts. She DOES NOT take well to ridacule, mostly becuase for most of her life she has been seen as the best in Nermia for a very long time and then when some day a guy out a no where starts brining in new people who can brush off her attacks as if they were nothing and basically turning her into a helples damsel in distress I'd be ** off to.

But then I unlike her would get the ** over it, train to get stronger and MOVE ON.

I just have to put down one last thing nefore I go though. How much can a girl really like a guy if her unconcious REFLEX is to bash his scull in? Even with completely forgeting who he is unvonciously she hates him enough to have that kind of relfex? Come ON! And as to Ranma, he's been shown to be vain enough to get that 411 formula just so that she won't forget him.

Yeah, her reflex is to beat him over the head. Again, so is everyone elses. Shampoo does it unconciously, Ukyo does as well. Kodachi more rarely as she is more prone to tie him in ribon and throw him to her allegator. (Or Similar Hilarity.)

hell if the chiks hot and wants him who am I to say differently?

Heh heh, good philosophy I guess. Heh... heh...

Again you pose a good point with the temporarity of the potions and drugs, along with the statements about mousse. Still though, mousse seems to be a rather hated character. Like the episode where he is to go home to his mother? I don't recall the episode but I remember it showing a rather sad outlook for men in the village.

True Mousse does have much more free reign then the Turkish Amazon's. Based on your facts, that I will give you.

Finally again, back to Akane. I do think she should, as you said "Get the ** over it." That is why I prefer her in fanfictions because nine out of ten, for a fic to portray Akane in a good light she HAS to get the ** over it. Thus my like of her. Even in the series she shows small signs of maturity.

Small signs... but they are there.

I suppose you might be right about the formula 411. SImilar to the Reversal Jewel OAV perhaps he just did it for his own ego. Regardless, i truly disliked Ranma in that episode. He had shown signs of disliking shampoo but then when she hates him, goes off to make her love him again.

Perhaps he is a little of a cassanova.

Thank you for taking the time to research your arguement unlike "some people" and not badmouth others for their own opinions. I respect you for that.

Also i think Ukyo has about as much chance of winding up with Ranma as Ryoga does.

Shampoo and Ranma, i think ranma just wanted her back in the Reversal jewel because of his ego. And look at all the times Ranma fights guys who want Akane, he doesn't go fight Mouse because he is after shampoo or Konatsu cuz he wants ukyou.

your post was almost a thousand words long... i'd say YOU care...

[Quote]Fifth FACT: Mu Tze (Mousse) has obviously had many more privalages than any "Breeding Stock" would ever be ALLOWED. Even if only about half of the men in the village were close to the same calaber of strength Mousse had and the condistions are as bad as you clame them to be, why not just leave. They have enough power to get past a few gaurds and scouts along the way without much trouble. But they obviously have more free reign than you believe.

Not Really Mousse is blind without his glasses, he believes a statue is Shampoo, even with the extreem height differentials. In a warrior society like the "Amazons" his 'weakness' would prevent him from ever being a productive member of society or getting a mate. Mousse apparently chose to master the Hidden Weapons art despite the societal views of the "Amazons".

[Quote]But then I unlike her would get the ** over it, train to get stronger and MOVE ON.

How, in her position she has no one to train her. Ranma won't, Genma won't, Cologne can't, and her Father can't. Any other Dojo in Nermia will just pat her on the back and say that she has Ranma to protect her and won't bother. And without someone to train her she can not get better and just move on. She has tried to get Ranma to train her a few times but he hops around and dodges (and while this might improve her speed, it's not sufficent training).

Akane isn't as helpless as the other fanfiction make her appear. Nor is she the weakest fiancee either, Kodachi has yet to hit her at ALL (based on my recollection of the manga) and Akane's dished out some good blows against Shampoo even. She may have a temper but she is hardly the spoiled brat she is made out to be. The only solid argument of her brattiness is when she got the battle dougi, when she was wearing it she WAS the evil ** in Akane bashing Fanfic, but only when she was wearing it. When Ranma hit the yin-yang switch on her belt and landed on the bench in his arms, she was calm, appologetic, and nice. A very sharp contrast to when she had the dougi on and said she wouldn't forgive him if he hit her. So it can be inferred that the dougi, being SENTIENT (which is conveiniently forgotten by most people), would, as a matter of survival, try to increace Akane's argressive nature to prevent Akane from losing her heart to Ranma.

Akane is the most likely to have a healthy romatic relationship with Ranma, as the foundation for that relationship exists. Ukyo is the next one in line because of her history with Ranma, Shampoo and Kodachi tie for last because there is no honor (family or personal) involved on Ranma's part. Akane has shown to be marginally patent with Ranma when they don't have to worry about family, honor, or the stupidity of Nermia, as has Ranma (when Ranma's moping after being kissed by the ice skater) so if they had to they could easily sort out all of their issues with each other.

These are my opinions based off my veiw of the manga, which are of course flawed and biased

Akane isn't the best girl for him. They have conflicting personalities and she isn't helping him grow at all. She hates being outshone and he does it all the time. She isn't likely to encourage him to do better.

Ukyou would happily encourage him to improve. She'd expect him to give her lots of children and help her run her business, but both being a father and helping the restaurant would round him out some. It'd take more time away from his chosen art, but in the end it would be beneficial. Maybe not the best, but close.

Shampoo would happily encourage him to improve, but mostly as a warrior. A bit one sided. I think Cologne would do her best to make him a bit more well rounded. I think she sees him as her chosen heir more then Shampoo is. At any rate, it depends a lot on how the amazon village is actually run and we just don't know enough about the situation in canon. It could be either the best or the worst possible setup for him.

Nabiki would encourage him for her own personal gain, but her short sighted decisions and need for control would limit him as well.

Kasumi... *shrug* She's the Valium poster child later on in the series. We just don't know enough about how she'd act as a wife to tell. My personal view it that she'd be too accepting and Ranma needs a challenge to be his best.

Kodachi would encourage him. She's a bit insane, but her place in society is partly determined by success by any means necessary. With her fortune and encouragement backing him he could go far. This might actually be the best pairing for HIM.

Why?

BECAUSE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER! It's as simple as that!

Ranma confesses his love for Akane to himself and than later at Jusenkyo to her (okay, he didn't know that she could hear him, but that's not really important, isn't it?).

And Akane? When they were in Akane's Room in their wedding-clothes, Ranma asked her, why she wants to marry him. Her answer: "Because you said you love me!"

Well, would YOU marry someone, only because he proposed to you?

Or course not! Only if you love the other person, too!

That's the proof: He loves her and she loves him.

And the other "fiancees"? Ukyo and Shampoo tried to kill Akane and spoiled the wedding. What do you think about his feelings now for them? Remember: He killed a semi-god to protect the girl he loves! They both should run for their lives!

Kodachi? She's insane, so she doesn't count!

Someone else? I don't think so.

RANMA AND AKANE FOREVER !!!

read my post.

The problem is: I don't aggree with your choice.

That's why I showed MY sight of things. That's all!

But ok. You think that Kodachi is the best girl for him, because her family is wealthy and mighty, right?

Although she's a little bit insane...

Yes, and the Sahel-zone is a little bit dry, isn't it?

Well, most of the characters of Ranma1/2 are not totally "normal", but Kodachi lives in a completely different world, just like her brother and her father. To get Ranma, she whould do everything for it: cheating, hurting, poisoning, perhaps even killing (her weapons ARE deadly)!

You said that Akane would'n help Ranma growing up. Please tell me why the Kuno-girl, who needs the most growing up, should be more helpful? She is a spoilt rich kid, nothing more!

Take a look at the whole Kuno-family:

a selfish, dangerous, cheating **,

a illusioned wannebe-samurai,

a crazy headmaster with a palm tree on his had and a faked Hawaiian dialect and ill ideas.

A family who helps him "growing up"? Perhaps "throwing up"!

No, believe me, NOONE could live with THAT family without loosing his mind!

They have NOTHING in common with Ranma and money can't buy you love!

P.S.: Don't be TOO angry with my stil, I just like being sarcastic, ok?

Now that's not to say that I'm an avid Shampoo/Ukyo supporter because I'm not (okay maybe I do like Ukyo a little more then the other two). However the fact remains that Shampoo virutally worships the ground Ranma walks on (however no one wants a door mat for a wife) and Ukyo geuninely cares about Ranma's happiness when she isn't caught up in trying to win his affection (one of the reason I'm somewhat pro Ukyo). Akane does care for Ranma, true, and Ranma cares a great deal for Akane that much is plain to see. However the constant bashing and ridiculing makes them one of those couples, that in high school, you said would eventually become a pair that have serious domestic violence issues when they grow up.

Shampoo, no one wants a door mat, and Ukyo, possibly the best bet for Ranma's LIFETIME happiness, are some times seen as better opitions simply because they don't bash him as much.

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