Akane commits violence against Ranma on a regular basis, outside of combat, when she is supposed to be his fiance and supporting him, and when she is purportedly falling for him. Shampoo teases. Ukyou is also rather non-violent outside of actual combat.

But you apparently call it violence when it is meant to harm but unable to cause real harm, as you do with Akane?

Ukyou is also rather non-violent outside of actual combat.

And I suppose asking if you love someone qualifies as combat.

If an action causes harm but is not intended to cause harm, whether the act can potentially qualify as violence or not is open to interpretation of the situation. Storms, for example, never intend to cause harm (or intend anything), but are often called violent. When it comes to people, it is of greatest issue whether these acts are of habit or not.

And I suppose asking if you love someone qualifies as combat.

Hardly. But Ukyou is not, on a regular basis, violent to the people she loves; she doesn't make a habit of it. Rather, she cooks for the person she loves as a habit. Akane Tendo and Naru Narusegawa, however, are both rather abusive lovers who strike the people they love with the intent to harm/inflict pain/punish on a regular basis.

It seems a rather odd that the violent tomboy girls are those who get the guys in their respective series.

Would lum and asuna(from negima) fall in that list as well

It depends. Do they throw bombs on a regular basis, or did it only happen once, while the other person hit someone who never fought back 300 times (rounded down) over the course of the manga.

The bombs Ukyo and Shampoo threw occured a single time at the end of the manga, and are actually no worse or better than many of the attacks made by characters in the series against one another. Comparing a one time event to something that occured literally HUNDREDS of times is not a fair comparison. A single instance can be easily forgiven and forgotten.

Oh, and Akane's use of the mallet first starts during the waterproof soap (Vol. 12) storyline and quickly becomes her primary means of attack (that and punting).

It is also important to note that Akane appears with Ranma in all but about five story arcs in the manga. She's with him so much more than Shampoo and Ukyo that it's not surprising that she hits him more. He's got the kind of personality that's just begging for a slap in the face. I mean, c'mon, he flashes Ukyo's chest to Ryoga, so she clongs him over the head, it's just the nature of the series. Kodachi is the only fiancee that never hits him, unless you count the paralysis flowers as a hit, but she only shows up in about a dozen stories throughout the manga, and she was introduced before either of the others.

Actually she got it before that. Kasumi gave her her first mallet in the Kairaishi storyline for the specific reason of hitting Ranma with it. Volume 11 I believe.

However, everyone uses a mallet. I've seen Ranma use it multiple times. Genma uses it once or twice to my memory and Soun has as well.

Actually I dont think its rounded down by a lot, Akane hits Ranma about 10 times per volume (But from 35 or so she stops doing so).

I think if we count the times Ukyo and Shampoo appear and hit Ranma, the % would be a little worse than that of Akane, or just as bad at least. Every girl in Ranma 1/2 is violent.

The whole Dougi thing I think that was mostly Ranma's fault. He wanted to use the dougi to be the best, when it choose Akane over him he suddenly was like 'it's not right to have that kind of power up (Actually, he wasn't, sorry, that's the way most fanfics show Ranma, wich sounds weird, considering that, if shown an opportunity to 'power-up' he would accept it gladly).

I'll rephrase that, when the dougi choose Akane over Him it was suddenly a threat. I think it's not because he wasn't "Nerima's Best Martial Artist" anymore, but he just didn't want Akane to have the ability to protect herself.

Nah. He just doesn't want her to be better than him. It's as simple as that.

Of COURSE he wants her to be able to protect herself after all he at least likes her.

The big problem with the Dogi arc is that Akane got a TON better than him, to a level where he couldn't hope to catch up, with NO effort.

Sure, she practices but that Dogi is like about 20 years of practice all rolled into one.

I'd be pissed too if someone who was about half as good as me (Which Akane is not, compaired to Ranma,) suddenly became ten times as good as me due to a stupid training suit.

Quite frankly, Ranma is pissed because the Dogi gives Akane an encreadibly unfair advantage. Unfair advantages he can deal with, if not like, however the advantage Akane had over Ranma in that story was ludicrice.

Actually, it's that Akane had an unfair advantage that he didn't. He tried to use the dogi, and the only reason he couldn't is that it didn't fit his female form.

Remember how he acted at the end of to soba arc? He wouldn't accept that Akane could beat him at arm wrestling while using the soba, and lorded over Akane when he finally could again.

NO!

We see him say quotes equivilent to "Who's the man" being a cockey b******, however it's in normal cockey b****** levels. The only times he lords it over people is if they beat him by use of exernal aids. The Soba, the Dogi and the lense of invincibility.

onestly, would Ranma have kept the Dogi on if it DID fit her?

This is pure assumption on my part but I don't think she wuld have. First off, it would have made his girl form a WHOLE lot stronger than his guy form, something he just may not like.

Second, it would take the challange out of all of his fights.

What I think he didn't like about Akane having it was that she didn't take it off after thrashing him.. she kept using the magical assistance even after prooving that with it she was miles above him.

Yeah she did. Most of the storyline had Akane not in the suit. There were two seperate fights involving it, one at the begining and one at the end with a period inbetween where Akane wasn't wearing it.

As for the unfair advantage thing, Every character in the series would happily accept one. The only one that doesn't actively seek one out when it presents itself is Akane. Ryoga, Mousse, Ranma, Genma, Happosai and everyone else jump at the chance to get stronger. Akane just happens across it, and in the case of the Doji she didn't mind if she lost it.

The only person we know would eventually abandon a power up is Ryoga. He recieved the God Mark and did his damndest to get it off (Though that was partially because it looked idiotic) and he actually began to cry when Ranma was unable to harm him with the weakness moxibustion. So if Ryoga got a power up that put him leaps and bounds above Ranma, he'd probably want to get rid of it after awhile.

Actually, during the storyline with the magic eyeglasses Mousse refused to use them during the final battle because he felt it was unmanly. (Meanwhile, Ranma pulled out every amazon trinket he could steal just to drive his point home. How many of those things does Cologne have anyway?)

That doesn't change the fact that he happily accepted it and readily used it up until he realized it was designed for weaklings. He felt unmanly using it and eventually stopped. That just puts Mousse on the list of known people to abandon a power up, it doesn't mean he wouldn't jump at the chance to become stronger unfairly.

It's actually a big deal that he would be willing to abandon such power. It was a free win against Ranma whenever he felt like it. About half the characters DO seem willing to put aside unfair advantages when it comes down to it. Ryoga and Mousse both demonstrate it, though Ryoga does so to a much greater degree, and I think Genma's sealing of the Umi and Yamasenken would fall into a similar category though not exactly the same. Ukyo doesn't seem to press her advantage when she HAS it, I think she's the kind of person who would give it up as well, same for Cologne.

Kuno would never give up that kind of power, and it depends on the circumstances whether Ranma or Akane would (she certainly wasn't willing to during the Super Soba story) and Shampoo most likely wouldn't unless doing so gave her a different sort of advantage.

I don't recall instances where the other characters had such power, though there probably were a couple.

The only characters I can think of who actively pursue boosts to their power and would never give them up are Pantyhose and Happosai. Both of whom are self-professed evil. I mean, Happosai was willing to kill a newborn child over underwear at one point, and Pantyhose is just kind of a bastard.

The Umi-Senken was sealed and he didn't seem to complain about it...

Actually, If I were Ranma I woulda taken the Kinjakon when I left Saffron just to spite him...

but that's just me.

Seriously, when has Ranma actually gotten his mits on a power up?

Still, he seems to live for the fight (Otherwhise why would he provoke them so often?) and if he won every fight he participated in without effort, i think he'd give up the power up simply because He couldn't fight anymore...

Really! she attacks Ranma physically, and that happens when she gets angry (and a lot of times, it's Ranma's fault. That's bad, that shouldn't happen, but we all know Ranma is strong and is a martial artist, so he can resist those beats.

But Ranma attacks her emotionally!!! he says things that hurt her!!! and really with no strong reason. We have to admit he can be really cruel to her. Emotional beats are worse than beats. Anyone would feel hurt and heartbroken, and she's autistic, so she, unlike Ranma, just doesn't have the tools or skills to resist it (who's the baddest now?) So we have to keep the perspectives. Akane is not that bad, she's just... not aware about other ways of expresing herself (of course Ranma does not have the complete intention of hurting her either, but he's unaware of things).

Luca, what the hell are you babbling about? Akane is not autistic. I'm not sure where you got that idea but I suggest you shoot whoever told you that.

Sounds like it could be an interesting fic though, Akane as an autistic teenager.

It'd probably come out like Curse of Silence though.

Akane is so, so violent, but it's not her fault, and comparatively, she's not that bad, she's very good indeed.

Come again? Just how is it not her fault that she decides to beat him over the head with random blunt trauma instruments? And compared to what exactly? Satan? A gerbil? be specific here. In the words of Kasumi, she's a sweet girl, just a violent maniac.

Really! she attacks Ranma physically, and that happens when she gets angry (and a lot of times it's Ranma's fault. That's bad, that shouldn't happen, but we all know Ranma is strong and is a martial artist, so he can resist those beats.

By that logic, you're saying that it's perfectly fine for a little kid to beat on an adult if they're angry. Cause that's the impression I got when I read it. 'Now, I can see you're angry, so go ahead and smack me a few times. I'm so far above your level that I'll barely feel it anyway.'

But Ranma attacks her emotionally!!! he says things that hurt her!!! and really with no strong reason. We have to admit he can be really cruel to her. Emotional beats are worse than beats. Anyone would feel hurt and heartbroken, and she's autistic, so she, unlike Ranma, just doesn't have the tools or skills to resist it (who's the baddest now?) So we have to keep the perspectives. Akane is not that bad, she's just... not aware about other ways of expressing herself (of course Ranma does not have the complete intention of hurting her either, but he's unaware of things).

Autistic? Who the hell gave you that idea? Akane is perfectly aware of other ways of expressing herself, it would be impossible not to, she simply chooses not to use them. And think for a minute, just who it was that raised Ranma and was his only role model for about ten years? Genma Saotome, known thief, severely lacking in the brains department, greedy, apparently lacking in any morals whatsoever, and will immediately resort to cheap taunts and trickery to gain the upper hand in any confrontation unless faced with enough sheer power to make him run like a rabbit or cower and beg forgiveness. This man sold his only son, the only heir to the school he claims to value above all else, for a bowl of rice, a small fish, and two pickles. He also dumped him in a pit of starving cats, SEVERAL TIMES, simply because he was too stupid to read the entire description of the technique before he started training his son in it. For all you know, he may honestly believe that creatively mocking someone is a special form of affection.

It is my belief that if you switched the two around, had Akane raised by Genma and Ranma raised by Soun, Ranma would end up as damn near a saint, while Akane would snap and go on a killing frenzy.

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