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Rikku the bluefirevixon
yeah, that was an awesome explanation. Thanks!
#51 Jan 20th, 6:56am
AuronLu
Which doesn't really explain why Chappu also looks like Shuyin/Tidus and Wantz's little sister looks like Yuna. Apparently Spira has a rather limited gene pool. :D
#52 Jan 21st, 9:22pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
I don't think Chappu looks like Shuyin/Tidus...that was just Wakka being weird. And I wasn't paying close enough attention to Wantz's little sister to notice any similarities...
#53 Jan 22nd, 7:08am
AuronLu
I gotta disagree -- I don't think it was just Wakka being weird; I think that was part of the original game that kinda fell through the cracks later on.

The first time Lulu saw Tidus, she gasped, did a double take, and asked, "Who... ARE you?" And that night, she had the fight where she told Wakka, "He does look a lot like Chappu, but he isn't Chappu." There's also the fight on the steps of Kilika temple where Lulu blows her top and tells Wakka that Tidus isn't a replacement for Chappu.

So... Chappu's lover thinks Tidus looks like him, and Chappu's brother thinks Tidus look like him. Regardless of the graphics quality, I'm assuming that he really DOES look like him.

In fact, Chappu does have the exact same body and face polygon model as Tidus' low-polygon model -- the difference is the coloring, hair, and clothes, which are enough that many people don't see the resemblance!

So the original FFX script made a big deal about Tidus looking like Chappu, but then, the writers of X-2 came up with a NEW plot making Tidus a Shuyin clone instead, and dodged or ignored the "well then, why did CHAPPU look like Shuyin?" question.

#54 Jan 22nd, 11:49am
heaven-monument
Personally, I can't see the resemblance. The fact that they share polygon models is probably a coincidence or just plain laziness - they share body builds, ages, and genders.

That's probably why you might see it... then again, there are so many repeats of the same generic NPC it's not funny.

There must be, like, a whole line of sisters who all have really short hair and that denim-looking dress in the game... Know who I'm talking about?

And who, and where, is Wantz's and O'aka's little sister? I never saw her in either game.

#55 Jan 22nd, 4:05pm
AuronLu
She's in the Farplane if you go back there right before leaving Guadosalam.

By the way, I found this too while editing my script today (backtracking to Luca after visiting Guadosalam):

>Keepa: You saw Chappu on the Farplane? Kinda looked like you, ya?

Now you've gotten me all intrigued! Am I getting fooled because the characters' in-game comments made me look for similarities that aren't there?

Here's Chappu and Tidus:

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/auronlu/screencaps/?action=view¤t=chappuvstidus.jpg

What do you think?

I think it's the same model with a different skin, but they've copied the eyebrows, eyes and nose from Tidus onto Chappu and widened the mouth slightly. Or am I just seeing things?

If anyone's really curious, here's screenshots of nearly all the npcs:

http://www.istad.org/aulu/characters

The non-named npcs get recycled all over the place, but apart from Ginnem and Belgemine, the named npcs have unique models. EDIT: Oh, right, some of the blitz players are also clones.

#56 Jan 22nd, 5:45pm . Edited Jan 22nd, 8:22pm
Sakura's Sonata
Haven't looked yet, but I notice the slight resemblance as well. But if the whole skin tone and hair difference throws off most players, why would Wakka notice that Tidus and Chappu look alike? Lu's perceptive, so I think she could easily see the similarities, but come on, Wakka??? The most dense character in the game notices something the player misses. Something's very wrong...

Ya, I think X-2 just overlooked the whole "Tidus looks like Chappu" thing to thrust Shuyin into the story.

#57 Mar 01st, 8:25am
Little Miss Cuteness
i can see a bit of a resemblence, but not so much that i think they're almost identical. it always freaks me out when i see clones of NPCs all over the place. makes me wonder if Tidus has stalkers..

i wasn't keen on X-2 to be honest, except i liked Paine~ i kept wondering why there was no mention of Chappu and Shuyin's resemblence.

Sakura's Sonata, who's your avatar?? i feel like i've seen it before, but can't place what it's from.

#58 Mar 04th, 10:36am
AuronLu
My opinions of X-2 are about the same as yours, Miss Cuteness (ha!) but I try to keep from grumbling about it so as not to sour discussions. (I am always reminded of the Curate's Egg: Portions of it were excellent.)

Tidus does have one stalker -- or rather Yuna does! Google for Wantz, if you don't know about her stalker. :)

#59 Mar 04th, 2:51pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
OMGZ FRAN AND BALTHIER! *swoons* Little Miss Cuteness, you have GOOD taste. haha.
#60 Mar 04th, 5:50pm
heaven-monument
@Rikku: What? Personally Balthier/Ashe is my fave, even though I don't like Balthier. (Read a Vossler/Balthier last night, it was... shudderworthy... at best)

@AuronLu: Your link doesn't work for me, for some reason...

#61 Mar 04th, 9:50pm
Sakura's Sonata
Sakura's Sonata, who's your avatar?? i feel like i've seen it before, but can't place what it's from.

My avatar's name is Meru, and she's a main character from the Legend of Dragoon. It's a good game. But it was made to compete with FFVII....and we all know which game became more popular. So LOD is almost unheard of. Like I said, it's a good game (much better graphics than FFVII) and it's got the best character development I've seen out of all the ff games I've played...even FFX. But it's a little cliched.

Your avy kinda reminds me of Shiva, Miss Cuteness! ^_^

Anyhoo, back on topic... Balthier/Ashe? I can't see that one happening. I'm more for Balthier/Fran.

#62 Mar 15th, 9:26am
KathleenDee

im gunna have to agree plus Wakka his BROTHER i mean i think i would know if someone looked like my brother. Anyway Tidus and Chappu both have blue eyes and the same face shape. But since this about Lulu then ill go back on topic....off topic?

I think she's what keeps everyone focussed. I mean sure Auron kinda takes the leadership role but he more there becasue he has to be. Lulu is there becasue she cares about Yuna. I think though towards the end of the journey Lulu starts to loose a bit of hope, no not hope...she begins to feel like history will repeat itself and she will fail again but guess who is right there to help her out.....WAKKA

example

[Boss fight with Ginnem and Yojimbo]

Lulu: Strange. I thought it would be sadder, somehow. Maybe I've gotten used to farewells. Wakka: You're stronger now. Lulu: Wakka, I hope you're right. Lulu: Yuna, the fayth is inside. Go do what you came to do.

Shes so determinded!

#63 Jul 26th, 5:50pm


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