EldritchWiki! - Eldritch Asylum Q&A Forum

Topic: EldritchWiki!

Some of you might be going, huh? Others are probably thinking: I don't care! I just want another chapter!

Well, I'll address both groups.

Recently, I've been putting up the EldritchWiki, http://www.eldritchasylum.com/ , a wikipedia style 'website' dedicated to Eldritch Asylum. For those unfamiliar with the wikipedia, the EldritchWiki is essentially a free source, all editors welcome website/encyclopedia to everything about Eldritch Asylum. It simutaniously addresses several problems:

1) This forum isn't the best place, nor does it have the best format for detailing the great amount of information associated with Eldritch Asylum. The EldritchWiki allows us to relay information in a much more concise manner... further it allows /you/ the reader to help us construct these sources of information or organize what has been presented so that you might enjoy it more.

2) It gives us a place where upon we can collect fan art... So now we need fan art. Bring on the fan art! ;)

3) It creates a location where chapters can be discussed, questions answered in a manner where they can be effectively chronicled for EVERYONE to enjoy.

and last but not least, is:

4) Working on a co-authored project is a challenge. It is difficult to keep track of what the other author is doing, and it is difficult for us Authors to discuss story modifications and find minor edits that we may or may not like. Until recently Obsidian-fox and I got around this obstacle by sitting in the same room... well... now there's a problem.

Obsidian-fox now over a 1,000 miles from my location and will remain so for the next two months. Further, even afterwards he has a regular real-life job and that sharply limits the amount of time we can work together. So what does this have to the with the EldritchWiki?

Simple. The wiki creates a comprehensive area where all edits are tracked. That means if obsidian-fox makes a change I know, and if I make a change obsidian knows. Further, it has a discussion page for us to talk on, and allows us both to have an 'up to date' copy on our 'computer' without risking losing minor edits that we ourselves have forgotten. Hence, we will now be able to resume work on Chapter 7 even while having a 1,000 miles between us, /and/ having co-op time cut down!

Yay!

Of course, we can't hide pages on the EldritchWiki (though I am going to look into it...), so strictly you /could/ read the partially finished Chapter 7... or even watch us bring it into completion...

However, I ask that you don't. Not out of shame or anything silly like that, but rather because it may reduce your /enjoyment/ of the story. Still, if you LIKE watching the creation process, or our own feirce discussions... well, that's your cup of tea.

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In anycase, my goal here is to announce the EldritchWiki and fully encourage you, our fans and readers, to help flush it out for us. Heck, create side stories, fan art, or omake for all I care!

As for the new chapter, well, hopefully we should get it moving in the comming days again, I'd like to finish it in a month or two more.. but I recognize that Obsidian-fox has a /a lot/ to deal with right now... so it'll be slow comming. Hopefully, we'll get into the groove soon...

In fact, the sooner I've got most of the basic EldritchWiki stuff up, and Obsidian-fox makes his first edit to chapter 7 (in awknowledgement that it's been translated correctly ;) ) I'll probably start plugging some paragraphs down here and there.

#1 Mar 30th 2006, 12:47pm . Edited by obsidian-fox, Apr 12th, 4:11pm

Great News, really. I guess having information more avaliable is nice, and will help in the long run. Even with more minds researching and things like that. Time well spend I guess, if you can't reach obsidian fox for working in the fic.

Added the page inmediately in my favourites. Even before checking it. If your skills as a writer translate in one tenth in web desing, your web page would also be really good.

/ends shameless praise and bootlicking

Now, to see If I can find the courage to NOT look at the unfinished chapter 7...

I bet I can't resist a week!!!

#2 Mar 30th 2006, 3:42pm . Edited Mar 30th 2006, 3:43pm

Well, the site is going up as we speak, and will continue to be going up for... eh... a good week or more. I've only got a very very small part of the information up... and as I put it up I am made aware of how much new information I need to fill in to make stuff look complete.

However, that does have the advantage of making me think a lot harder about certain things.

Hope you enjoy the site! Agian, feel free to edit or add things. Even if you screw up, it's easy enough to revert to an old page. ;)

#3 Mar 30th 2006, 3:45pm

As one note, bro, I suggest you purchase an /external storage/ HDD and back up the entire wiki-site at least once a week, and more often during times of heavy edits. For now, though, since it isn't too large, just use your USB key drive.

#4 Mar 30th 2006, 6:09pm

... or burn to CD/DVD. Don't we have a whole pile of DVDs? And many of them can be written to more than once, right? (With growisofs you just add more to the end of a DVD.)

#5 Mar 30th 2006, 6:10pm

Currently the whole database is still under something like 15 megs, so it'll be easy to backup. Later, yes, we'll need something larger. Of course, we could just make use the I-pod. ;)

#6 Mar 30th 2006, 6:19pm

Made a small Contribution in Eldritch wiki, listing the items in Mr.Fulke's suitcase. Hope you don't mind.

EDIT: Saw what my little contibution has evolved into after Xylix edit. Sorry man for making you work that much.

#7 Mar 31st 2006, 4:31pm . Edited Mar 31st 2006, 4:55pm

Not at all. I fully encourage edits and additions.

Add and edit to your hearts content. I actually filled out the suitcase section for you. ;)

#8 Mar 31st 2006, 4:53pm

You are pretty much free to edit any section on which I haven't placed protection... Which you can't edit anyway...

So, if you can edit a section, and have something to add or bring up, don't hesitate. In most of these areas anything is pretty much better than what is there at the moment.

#9 Mar 31st 2006, 4:58pm

EDIT: Saw what my little contibution has evolved into after Xylix edit. Sorry man for making you work that much.

Don't worry. I saw your addendum and felt /inspired/. Nothing more. ;) Besides, I needed to make an example of what an item page might look like.

#10 Mar 31st 2006, 5:00pm . Edited Mar 31st 2006, 5:01pm

Thank you, I guess. So the floating rings is a baby toy? Nice cute trinket.

I wonder If Mr. Fulke is a muggle hating wizard (the muggle hater doll points to that) or the other way around. He didn't want to report that the muggle kids knew about wizards to the ministry. Maybe it isn't his fault and there are some demented companies making those terrible dolls disguising them as a normal wizard's toy, that would defent their children againist muggle trespassers or something like that?

#11 Mar 31st 2006, 5:01pm

Ethan's more of an amoral toy collector than anything. That Clown doll was his father's, his, and now his son's... and probably went back several generations.

In otherwords, Ethan just really likes trinkets and cool gadget like things. He's far to irresponsible and amoral to have any philosophy reguarding Muggle borns. ;)

#12 Mar 31st 2006, 5:03pm

Edited some missing links to chapters but I didn't add summaries of the chapters themselves. I felt that that was a job better suited to you. You know your story, and the appropiate summary I guess.

#13 Mar 31st 2006, 5:09pm

"amoral"? That isn't quite accurate. Ethan's quite irresponsible, though. He'd never intentionally hurt someone, but his lack of attention might. He isn't exactly amoral because he /would/ be upset afterwards if his failures hurt someone... but only if he understood that it was his fault, which isn't something he'd see unless it was obvious (e.g. with the clown).

#14 Mar 31st 2006, 11:50pm . Edited Apr 01st 2006, 12:24am

Tim81182

Now, to see If I can find the courage to NOT look at the unfinished chapter 7...

I bet I can't resist a week!!!

It's great so far.

#15 Apr 12th 2006, 8:12am

Aha! I knew someone would look. ;)

#16 Apr 12th 2006, 9:11am

I'm guilty of that too. I couldn't resist. (and to be truthful, only managed to resist a day)

#17 Apr 12th 2006, 10:13am

BeForU

Hey hey. You might want to take a look at this little patch for MediaWiki:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Page_access_restriction_with_MediaWiki

#18 Apr 13th 2006, 8:47pm

Thanks. That'll help. Xylix! Get to it.

#19 Apr 13th 2006, 9:07pm

I'll try to get it working tomorrow. I'll need to make sure it won't disrupt anything first (I doubt it will), and how to put it in.

#20 Apr 13th 2006, 9:14pm

Run a backup first, of course.

#21 Apr 13th 2006, 9:53pm

Iiowyn

Hopefully it will still show that certain pages have been updated, it is kinda nice to see that a story you are waiting for is being worked on. Helps alleviate the fear that stories will die that I always have when following fanfiction.

Iiowyn

(and yes I did give into temptation...but I resisted 20 minutes, I swear)

#22 Apr 13th 2006, 9:54pm

The history and "recently updated pages" probably won't be affected.

#23 Apr 13th 2006, 9:56pm

Yeah, that's my impression too from looking at it.

However, this is going to take a good while. Currently I run mediawiki-1.4.14 as that's the one gentoo emerges. However, the page restriction patch stopped keeping up with the 1.4.x versions at 1.4.9 and moved exclusively to 1.5.x versions. So, I need to look how to upgrade to 1.5.x, see if a patch exists, and check first to ensure that this wont disrupt the wiki page or render all previous data useless.

In any case, before I mess with everything I will fully backup the SQL database (have already done so this morning), so if worst comes to worst everything will be working the way it is now by the end of the day. ;)

#24 Apr 14th 2006, 7:39am

Hmm, the patch only works for 1.5.(5/6/7) 1.5.8 is the current standard of the 1.5.x branch, and 1.6.x is the current standard. From the looks of everything it's going to be rather complex to try to get to a 1.5.x install or a 1.6.x install... and I'd have to use a slightly older version (1.5.7) anyway to even try...

*Sigh*

It'll be a good bit of time before I do anything. I need to read some more crap first and see if it's even possible to goto 1.5.7 at this point... and if there are easier ways. I know that there have been some mentions of a Namespace permission hackish style mechanism to acheive hidden pages.

#25 Apr 14th 2006, 8:18am

We have success! ;)

Everything should run just fine now. If you you are encountering problems you shouldn't when accessing the EldritchWiki, PLEASE tell me.

#26 Apr 14th 2006, 9:06am

Works well enough for me. Hear that, everyone? If you didn't sneak in and peek before, you've lost your chance. Willpower is no longer necessary.

#27 Apr 14th 2006, 9:18am

Iiowyn

Heh, I liked where it was going, and it was kinda cool to see some of the creative process, but I am glad it is hidden now. Can still see it is being worked on without losing the mystery of what is going to happen in the new chapter.

Plus I feel like part of some exclusive club or something =D

Iiowyn

#28 Apr 14th 2006, 11:07am

Tim81182

I've been going over the wiki again since reading the last chapter. Lots of cool new stuff since I last went there. Love all the expanded articles on the characters and their motivations.

Got a question about the DC rating though. Where would "canon Ranma" at the end of the manga be on the scale? 7? I feel like I've asked this before but I went through the threads here and didn't see it.

#29 May 26th 2007, 11:00am

Ranma would be a 6 in hand-to-hand, and about 7 when adding Moko Takabisha, Hiryuu Shoten Ha, Vacuum blades of Yama-sen-ken (not canonically known, but Ranma could probably learn them given a week), Stealth advantage of Umi-sen-ken, or a good weapon that won't break under use (e.g. a wakizashi or spear either magical or ki-enhanced, a good pistol or carbine, etc.). HSH is, unfortunately, not easy for Ranma to use on most opponents, and as such is less valuable than MT. Umi-sen also has no guarantee of working on some opponents... like vampires and dementors or robots or other skilled humans. MT, unfortunately, only works well in situations where Ranma is /already/ confident he or she can win... but it is an excellent defence againt gunners (send an MT at a machine-gun nest and see who hangs around shooting through a fog of Ki that is coming towards them to destroy whatever embankment they sit behind...).

Canon Ranma would have little chance against opponents like Mary or Nathan lacking some decent weaponry, but the weapons would put him at a much more even level.

Genma has the same DC as Ranma.

Best place to ask these questions is the discussions page... we check Recent Changes on the EldritchWiki quite regularly.

#30 May 26th 2007, 11:15am . Edited May 26th 2007, 11:30am

Calen

heya just wanted to ask how i can access

mediawiki / index php / Chapter_8

#31 May 30th 2007, 12:36pm

Chapter 8 is currently an in progress chapter. As of now, it is restricted from everyone that isn't a EldritchWiki super user.

If you want access to it you'll either have to:

1) Wait

2) Become a "regular" and well reguarded member of the EldritchWiki, and then /ask/ for access to restricted pages again. I'm not too stingy, but I'll save that access to individuals that have really been involved in one way or another.

#32 May 30th 2007, 4:24pm

Hmmm.... becoming a well-regarded member, Xylix says. Well, you could catalog all the Ranma 1/2 techniques. ^_^

#33 May 30th 2007, 8:51pm

md5i

I would just like to note that the wiki appears to have been down for the past week or so. Is it defunct, or just having problems?

#34 Dec 09th 2007, 3:23pm

Apparently it was having some difficulty. It should be working now. Tell me if you still cannot get through.

Thanks.

#35 Dec 09th 2007, 4:57pm

Eldrichtwiki seems to be down again. I guess because you are incorporating the new info provided with the new chapter?

#36 Apr 15th, 1:11pm

Its moved to a new home ( a real server). www.eldritchasylum.com

#37 Apr 15th, 1:58pm

Jupiah

I just joined the Eldritch Wiki and I'd like to help. I'm quite knowledgeable about Ranma 1/2, and I'm willing to catalog techniques for you.

#38 Apr 16th, 9:29pm