While playing an RPG, I noticed everyone in the hero's party remarked that by fixing the history that the enemy had changed, without changing anything to suit their own interests, that they're better than the enemy. It's kind of hypocritical because even if it's putting history back the way things were, they still are changing history, which means that the world they were in, and all its people, will be erased just as their families, friends, etc. were. Only, this isn't shown in the game, since Kyle and friends are the "good guys"...

It gave me an idea for a SM/R1/2 story, where Ranma's world is erased before his very eyes, replaced by the SM universe, and because someone else went back through time to change history. Usagi and all their other friends are reborn, but Akane and almost everyone Ranma knows - gone. In order to get them back, he has to 'fix' history, but this means erasing Usagi, Ami, Rei et all and their friends' existences... So begins a bitter war between the good guys and the good guys...

For Usagi to learn of Ranma's situation and learn that everything she knows and loves came at the expense of everything he knows and loves... What would the sailor suited warrior of justice do then? What could she do? Ranma's determined to 'fix' things, but for her, that means the entire genocide... no, a total erasure of existence of everyone she knows. Never born, never loved, never fighting to save the world with her friends, and the moon kingdom still a dead one.

Anyone think this idea is worth anything? Maybe seen it done before, and could point me to it? I'd enjoy reading this more than I would writing it, to be honest, so if you know something that resembles it...

It is a great idea, and again I have to point out Final Fantasy Tactics as an example of an entire world being destroyed to make it 'right'. It reminds me things like Infinite Crisis. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance tells the story of a fantasy world being created from the minds of a few kids, the entire world's in it, people are better/different/alive/there's more races of people than you can imagine. Marche decides that he doesn't want to live in the fantasy world, and goes around destroying all five Crystals that bind the world together. This dude, by the way, is the PC.

Crisis tells it as a "I'm sorry for your loss, but we have a right to exist too!"

It might be worth taking a look at either of them if you're interested.

I know I'd definitely be interested.

Edit: Originally I had that there were four crystals. I know better than to type early in the morning!

Um, there are five crystals in FFTA, one for each race (Veria, Nu Mu, Moogle, Bangaa, and Human)

However the premise of Ranma fighting the senshi would be very interesting, because they're used to everything (from my very limited knowledge) they fight to be a youma. They've never really had to fight a human that powerful trying to, for lack of a more defining term, kill them. Although I don't think this is quite fair, Ranma at the end of the manga, killed Saffron, King of the pheonix people (he's not a god, or even a self proclaimed one, it's an assumption made by one of the NWC at the final battle. He'd be much stronger than the Senshi, individually. And most of them just stand there throwing out attacks. It'd take maybe a week for Ranma to kill them all, although how he gets back to "his world" may require the senshi. It's quite the conundrum.

It's an interesting idea, but I'm a bit confused on how you could get it to happen. What event, that wouldn't leave the world in total ruin (like letting the dark kingdom win in the past, thus giving Earth no protection from not only the dark kingdom, but also many of the other SM villains) would be a switching point between SM and Ranma cast? It would have to be before either group is born, yet affect both disconnected parties (and in both cases many disconnected parties since all the Senshi are born separately and such).

I'm the kind of person that really wants things like this thoroughly explained, so I'd like to see how you plan to set it up.

As to the Senshi power levels, I disagree that Ranma would find them pushovers. He could definitely out skill them in a hand to hand fight, but they're power is shown to be quite nasty when it comes to their magical attacks. Saffron, while tough, was still a total noob at fighting, and was boosting his power with an artifact, and Ranma had to likewise boost himself with the apposing artifact or would have been dead several times over.

You and I are definitely in agreement on the whole Ranma vs. Saffron/Senshi thing. One of my stories is based totally and completely around Ranma coming to realize that he's not nearly the strongest fighter in the world, after seeing stuff like the Sailor Senshi, Chaos Control, and someone close to being divinity, and deciding to train to overcome his weakness.

As for the story idea - since Ranma's world was the default(unless the writer decides to make it a result of other temporal manipulation) then these things simply did not happen. The actions of the time traveler could reach further than simply saving the senshi and the moon kingdom. The Dark Kingdom never rose again - maybe they were totally destroyed. Same goes for everything else, like Pharoah 90... Or, perhaps, Ranma's world was on the road to such things, anyway, and it would have fallen to him to defend the world after gaining several power ups, or something? Really, it could be anything.

I highly disagree that Saffron was a "Total noob at fighting", he seemed to be pretty fucking good with his weapons and fireblasts, just not great at hand to hand. But honestly, if you can regenerate, fly, and hurl molten fireblasts, do you really need it?

It was put right into the dialog that he was a weak fighter which is what I meant. And, I would hardly call it good with your fire blasts when you can't show yourself able to land any of them really tellingly. As well, he only used the weapon once to block Ranma. There was no intricate exchange or anything. Granted Ranma is good at countering, but this is one case where I personally feel people GROSSLY inflate how interesting the battle was. Beating Herb was far more interesting a fight than Saffron because Herb actually knew how to employ his power properly, Saffron was essentially just tossing it around (and again, a big portion of that fight was the artifacts, not the actual people).

Saffron was said to have a glass jaw because getting hit in the face by a three ton boulder dazed him.

If I hit you with one of those things, best case scenario you'd be in the hospital with a severe case of "Flattened Face Syndrome".

This doesn't change the fact that Saffron is stronger than Ranma, and Ranma still won, which is what I was agreeing with.

Saffron did land a couple of those shots. Ranma got lucky with the first one (Akane absorbed it), and I know he got hit with at least one other, where he had to freeze himself with that staff he was using to survive. Notice that, although Saffron did use his staff, it did not buff him at all. The fireballs he was throwing around were all his power. The staff was used just as a weapon. Nothing in the manga says that the staff strengthened him.

Saffron was a poor physical fighter. Although he'd had some training, he was never taught to actually take a hit (his trainers refused to hurt him). His main advantages were his insane regeneration (anything that didn't kill him outright, would be healed in moments), flight, and being able to launch huge fireballs.

With Herb, Ranma was probably out of his league. Although Ranma managed to survive or dodge most of Herb's attacks, he never managed to hurt Herb. Until the end of the fight, when, using the excess energy left over from Herb's attacks, Ranma threw an attack that Herb couldn't avoid. It was Herb's energy (and Ranma said so himself, when he launched the attack) that destroyed the mountain.

Ranma might be around Herb's level in closehand fighting, but it's hard to tell. During the final fight, Ranma couldn't get close. Most of Herb's attacks were ranged. Which tends to be Ranma's weakness (Ryoga beat him at the beginning of the shishi hokodan arc). And during their first fight, Herb quickly switched to a ranged attack that Ranma couldn't see to dodge.

He wouldn't find them pushovers, per say. Would they fight back? Yes. If Ranma believed that killing them would put him back where he belonged would he do so? Yes. Would the Senshi survive? No. Ranma has access to techniques of which there are no known defenses (after all the Amazons are gone and all there lore, Hiryuu Shoten Ha included, is gone). Ranma could use the Umi Sen Ken to vanish from the field and just break necks. The Mercury Computer might be able to trace the Jusenkyo curse, but when Ami opens her mouth that computer will be taken or outright destroyed. After that it simply a matter of speed and stealth, both of which Ranma has in spades over the Senshi.

And if you think Ranma won't go into a bloody killing frenzy at this, remember what happened to Saffron. I'm pretty sure he died. And that was over just Akane. Ranma has no one, his mother, his fiancees, everyone that paid him any kind of affection is gone, even Genma, the man that he spent a large part of his life with is gone. If Ranma, in this scenario, discovers that his world was erased so that crystal Tokyo would come into being, he will do everything in his power to stop it and return his world back to normal.

I never said that Crystal Tokyo was to blame for the time changing; as a matter of fact, to avoid such a cliche storyline (Ranma finds out about Crystal Tokyo, Ranma hates crystal tokyo, Ranma destroys crystal tokyo, author has orgasm) I mentioned in this thread's alternate at a different forum that the culprit should be like

"Oh, that happened." instead of "Yes, my goal of acheiving the revival of the moon kingdom is acheived!"

So the culprit is probably not Pluto or the senshi, they just got lucky. The time traveler could go back much further than the moon kingdom, during it's fall to change something there, or something else. It could be anything, but the senshi being reborn was more of a by-product in my mind.

As for Ranma putting the rape on the senshi, I doubt it. Even post saffron, Ranma wouldn't be a match by himself for the Senshi, post galaxia. Consider Setsuna, who can stop time at the cost of her life... to defend Usagi and Crystal Tokyo, would she do this?

Yes. Game over for the ruthless Ranma you've envisioned.

Even then, Saturn could kill him pretty easily, or defend everyone else just the same.

Just killing the senshi won't fix Ranma's world. Even if he was alone, as much as he hates killing, he'd come to this conclusion pretty fast just to avoid doing so. He'd have to figure out something else. Like going back in time to stop the original time changer. If he wasn't alone, which he wouldn't be since he wouldn't survive alone, the smartest in the group would probably figure that out.

And there'd be at least four other people there with him, as long as it isn't Akane or Ukyo. Shampoo is a maybe, since I think his loyalty to Akane would keep him going...

Oh yeah... I forgot to mention, didn't Ranma survive(as in he would have died otherwise) Saffron because of Akane sacrificing herself for him? Kind of makes you wonder if everyone who hates her just ignores that part or what...

I never said that Crystal Tokyo was to blame for the time changing; as a matter of fact, to avoid such a cliche storyline (Ranma finds out about Crystal Tokyo, Ranma hates crystal tokyo, Ranma destroys crystal tokyo, author has orgasm) I mentioned in this thread's alternate at a different forum that the culprit should be like: "Oh, that happened." instead of "Yes, my goal of acheiving the revival of the moon kingdom is acheived!"

First I should point out that while time travel was mentioned, it was easily over looked (as I myself did). Second, bringing up points you made in another thread without providing a link, is bad form, as I have no idea where this supposed other thread is.

So the culprit is probably not Pluto or the senshi, they just got lucky. The time traveler could go back much further than the moon kingdom, during it's fall to change something there, or something else. It could be anything, but the senshi being reborn was more of a by-product in my mind. As for Ranma putting the rape on the senshi, I doubt it. Even post saffron, Ranma wouldn't be a match by himself for the Senshi, post galaxia. Consider Setsuna, who can stop time at the cost of her life... to defend Usagi and Crystal Tokyo, would she do this?Yes. Game over for the ruthless Ranma you've envisioned. Even then, Saturn could kill him pretty easily, or defend everyone else just the same.

Unless they can track Ranma under the full cloak of the Umi-sen-ken, which is debatable to unlikely at best (I'll be using Ryo-wolf's thesis on it's operation here), then no one can stop him. This is because (under the interpretation used) Ranma is fast enough to move out of the Senshi's line of sight before he would register again to their eyes, this allows him to launch attacks with impunity. Setsuna freezing time would stop Ranma, but then the score's what, 1-1 rather than 1-0 (or 0-9).

Just killing the senshi won't fix Ranma's world. Even if he was alone, as much as he hates killing, he'd come to this conclusion pretty fast just to avoid doing so. He'd have to figure out something else. Like going back in time to stop the original time changer. If he wasn't alone, which he wouldn't be since he wouldn't survive alone, the smartest in the group would probably figure that out.

True, he wouldn't initially lay the blame at the Senshi's feet, he would be himself and most likely help, but if he somehow came to believe that it was the Senshi's fault then he could very well kill them. He's not likely to, maybe capture one and interrogate her for a bit. But he is capable of killing the Senshi, and in your senario at the top of the thread could have the inclination to do so.

And there'd be at least four other people there with him, as long as it isn't Akane or Ukyo. Shampoo is a maybe, since I think his loyalty to Akane would keep him going

As this isn't part of the original premise you outlined at the start of this thread I'm not going to respond.

Zeful made a few good points there. However, there is one thing that most people are forgetting. Forgetting all of the Senshi for a moment, even Pluto, one must remember Usagi herself. Sailor Moon is a Tenchi type character, seemingly benign and ineffectual, but actually possessing immense power. Using his Light Hawk Wings, Tenchi could withstand a black hole, and Usagi defeated Chaos itself. If, for some insane reason, Ranma actually decided to start killing off the Senshi and proved himself to be a serious enough threat, she possesses the power to defeat him instantly. Much like Ranma, she wouldn't use this power unless pushed right into a corner, but the power is still there and shouldn't be ignored. Sure, he can move faster than people can see and throw chi blasts and such, but what can you do to a woman that can alter the minds of everyone on the entire planet on a whim? Just decide that Ranma, of everyone on the planet is 'too willful' to be affected?

It's not a matter of skill, it's just a fact of the two of them being on different plateaus.

How the hell did the Moon Kingdom fall in canon anyway?

First I should point out that while time travel was mentioned, it was easily over looked (as I myself did). Second, bringing up points you made in another thread without providing a link, is bad form, as I have no idea where this supposed other thread is.

How is sharing something that came up in another forum bad form? Did I say "You should know this because I said it in the other forum"?

Unless they can track Ranma under the full cloak of the Umi-sen-ken, which is debatable to unlikely at best (I'll be using Ryo-wolf's thesis on it's operation here), then no one can stop him. This is because (under the interpretation used) Ranma is fast enough to move out of the Senshi's line of sight before he would register again to their eyes, this allows him to launch attacks with impunity. Setsuna freezing time would stop Ranma, but then the score's what, 1-1 rather than 1-0 (or 0-9).

You have a point here; that is, if we're to use Ryo-wolf's interpretation. So at this point, it'd depends on how the writer decides to interpret that technique. To me, it's best to just go with the easiest, most obvious conclusion, which is that the Umisenken makes Ranma invisible, but a lot of people have different opinions on that and I don't want to strike up a discussion on it here, because then it might just segue into "My heroes are stronger than your heroes" or something.

True, he wouldn't initially lay the blame at the Senshi's feet, he would be himself and most likely help, but if he somehow came to believe that it was the Senshi's fault then he could very well kill them. He's not likely to, maybe capture one and interrogate her for a bit. But he is capable of killing the Senshi, and in your senario at the top of the thread could have the inclination to do so.

Well, unless there was someone actively lying to him, I can't see him thinking that the senshi are the root of the problem.

As an aside, in the scenario at the top of the thread, I mentioned that the characters in the game were going after a specific enemy who had changed history, but that other people in the future they had come from, and their friends and families, would be erased. I didn't mention "Innocent people who had nothing to do with changing history so that they could come into existance" because I thought that would be inherently understood. If it's "Ranma against people who changed history" then it kind of loses some of it's moral fiber. Instead, it's "Ranma against people who had nothing to do with changing history, but do not want to cease to exist." In this case, the Senshi.

And there'd be at least four other people there with him, as long as it isn't Akane or Ukyo. Shampoo is a maybe, since I think his loyalty to Akane would keep him going

As this isn't part of the original premise you outlined at the start of this thread I'm not going to respond.

I don't see why not... just because it's a detail I forgot to mention, you don't have anything to say to it? Does it put you off that much? What about it does? Would you rather Ranma was all alone?

I'd just assumed that people would figure there was at least one person with him when I came up with that last night, or whenever I did. My mistake.

Vex: Metallia appeared on Earth, brainwashed a lot of people, including Beryl. Earthlings had long been jealous of the moonies and their luxuries, so they already had incentive to attack. Metallia launched am mixture of Earth's forces and Youma at the moon. Queen Serenity released the full power of the Ginzuishou to seal Metallia, but the damage was done. Moon kingdom was destroyed. She used the reincarnation spell, as we all know, which actually hit a lot more people than just the Senshi(People like Endymion, who had given Serenity advance warning about Metallia and the brainwashing, and just a lot of random people) to send them to the "Most peaceful era on Earth."

If you can get over the cheesy 90's music, then I'd recommend you actually watch it, Vex. It's only half as girly as you think and while the fight scenes sometimes don't make sense (Why does everyone just stand there and watch the senshi attack them?) it's a lot of fun. S'why so many early Ranma ff writers liked it, you know.

Lathis: You're right there, too. In the end, it's all dependent on circumstance... Although, if there was something that would protect Ranma from Silver Crystal Mind Control, perhaps being from an alternate time line might help?

Actually, watching the SM series over(Episode 73 right now) the Black Moon family wasn't mind controlled... also, people from the tenth planet... So, maybe it's not mind control? OR maybe there's a way to dodge it?

How is sharing something that came up in another forum bad form? Did I say "You should know this because I said it in the other forum"?

It's bad form because I can't find the thing you brought up in the context you brought it up in. Less chance for pages of arguing over a misunderstanding.

You have a point here; that is, if we're to use Ryo-wolf's interpretation. So at this point, it'd depends on how the writer decides to interpret that technique. To me, it's best to just go with the easiest, most obvious conclusion, which is that the Umisenken makes Ranma invisible, but a lot of people have different opinions on that and I don't want to strike up a discussion on it here, because then it might just segue into "My heroes are stronger than your heroes" or something.

True, but the point still stands, if they can't track him in the Umi-sen-ken (and we know they can't do it by ki sense after the technique has been activated) then all the power in the world is useless.

Well, unless there was someone actively lying to him, I can't see him thinking that the senshi are the root of the problem.

As an aside, in the scenario at the top of the thread, I mentioned that the characters in the game were going after a specific enemy who had changed history, but that other people in the future they had come from, and their friends and families, would be erased. I didn't mention "Innocent people who had nothing to do with changing history so that they could come into existance" because I thought that would be inherently understood. If it's "Ranma against people who changed history" then it kind of loses some of it's moral fiber. Instead, it's "Ranma against people who had nothing to do with changing history, but do not want to cease to exist." In this case, the Senshi.

In which case it comes down to a "Why should your family exist at the expense of mine!" moment, Ranma and the Senshi are still fighting and it's still a fight over who gets to live and die. Ranma might not go for killing blows, but he's fighting more or less at full strength.

Of course if Sailor moon, at the end of the series is that powerful, how long would it take, with Pluto's help, to simply recreate everyone from the alternate timeline? There crisis averted and the Senshi have gotten what five plus power allies and one powerful pervert/enemy?

As for the other people with Ranma, I didn't respond because there's not really a point, because who he's with changes the way he acts so dramatically that it's not funny. Let's do a thought exercise, what would happen if the following person followed Ranma through the timeline?

Akane? Not great change except a small amount of agnst (Akane's shock) in the early story and anywhere from a moving (Ranma's death and Akane's return without him, only to find him alive still) to a dark (Akane throwing herself infront of a mortal blow meant for Ranma and selfsame martial artist going beserk as he tries to avenge her, leaving bodies, his own included, in his wake) ending.

Nabiki? Great divergance, Nabiki helps Ranma with his greiving process and gathers information. Contacts the Senshi directly and explains the situation and finds a way back.

So if you provdied a more or less definitive group I could respond but untill then it's kind of pointless to figure out every possible character's responce to the situation might be.

Question, if Metallia and Beryl were powerful enough to destroy the Moon Kingdom, it's army and all of the Senshi. How the fuck did they get defeated by half of the reincarnated Senshi, without training, and only their most low powered spells.

They didn't. Beryl and some youma wrecked the senshi's shit. Mamoru was brainwashed and fought against Sailor Moon, who defeated him with the power of love, then took the Ginzuishou and released its full power the same way the queen did before, but survives somehow and made a wish that everyone could go on living like normal girls. Everyone forgets being Sailor Senshi here.

Beryl was just a dumb bitch with a very, very poor tactical mind... hell, all of the sailor moon villains up to the end of Sailor Moon R(episode 88) save for Wiseman were all dumbshits. Everytime they had an advantage of some sort, they gave it up. Even Wiseman made a mistake that, while not really hurting him, was dumb. Rambling to yourself about how you're going to betray your underlings ain't very smart. He's the only respectable villain so far, though, especially since he was able to hold a Ginzuishou to a stalemate.

EDIT: Got to episode 94. It's looking up. Way up. The whole show kicked it up a notch. The Senshi are going SSJ.

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"Superman could totally beat Hulk in a fight. He'd just throw him into the sun."

The fundamental flaw of every thread that has degraded to a vs. argument I have ever seen is a complete disregard for the realistic responses and approaches to battle. When was the last time Superman ever threw anyone into the sun? Never. And yet there's always some shmuck who uses that argument for why superman will win against anyone.

The same thing applies here. Sure, Ranma could hunt the senshi down one by one with the umi-sen-ken and break their necks before they know he's there. Would he? Fuck no.

I haven't seen all of Sailor moon, but from what I did see, their spells are up there in terms of power output and damage potential. By series end, I'm pretty sure each one of them had power oozing out their pores, and I think Usagi herself was capable of defeating abstract concepts of omni-potent evil single-handedly.

The concept itself is interesting, but there's a few things I don't get. For one, how does Ranma escape the erasure that claims his universe? And how does he intend to undo it? I don't see how assassinating the senshi is going to accomplish that.

Assassinating the Senshi won't have any part in it. It's merely a byproduct. The simplicity is this, The Nerimians, and the Senshi cannot both exist at once. In order for Ranma to bring back his loved ones, the Senshi would as a result be regulated to nothingness, and vica versa.

Killing them is not quite the proper term, so much as unmaking them.

The fundamental flaw of every thread that has degraded to a vs. argument I have ever seen is a complete disregard for the realistic responses and approaches to battle. When was the last time Superman ever threw anyone into the sun? Never. And yet there's always some shmuck who uses that argument for why superman will win against anyone.

Superman threw the Eradicator into the Sun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradicator_(comics)#The_Krypton_Man

After a heavy dose of brainwashing, yeah.

Assassinating the Senshi won't have any part in it.

He's talking about what Zeful said, and, like I said, Ranma wouldn't use the Umisenken and super speed to go around snapping necks, especially when he has no inclination to kill them in the first place. And even still, Since Pluto can stop time on a dime (According to some people, she has slight precognitive powers even without the time gates, and though I haven't seen it in the Anime to episode 180 it's possible for the Manga since stuff was changed).

As for Ranma surviving, I'm not sure yet, but it was talked about in the other thread, so you can check the FFF if you want to see their suggestions/ideas, Ryo.

I think the key here is that Ranma could take a senshi one on one, the problem though is that they always travel and fight in there groups (inner/outer senshi). I think to win part of the story would have to start with Ranma's loss, I mean he couldn't take five magic girls no matter how tough he believes he is. He'll have to spend time discovering there Identities, and getting them one on one.

*blink blink*

And lo did my muse grow.

I... really might write that fic. I'm serious about this. Author Roy, Are you planning on writing that Idea you had in the top thread? Because honestly it seems like genius. Admittedly I don't know how you could go about getting him to survive a catastrophic event in the past that erases his entire world, but if I come up with that...

Holy crap it's been a while since such a muse has struck... this might even eclipse my Evangelion obsession!

I believe Ranma could fight and probably defeat the Senshi in the First second and Third Arcs. Easily one on one. With effort against the inners up till perhaps the third arc and beyond where he would lose. The outers would beat him together right from the get go probably. Their attacks are shown to be significantly stronger and they're shown to be significantly better then the inners. Throw pluto in and Ranma's mincemeat.

However. Usagi could always beat Ranma every single time, were her friends lives on the line. It always takes that to get the girl motivated it seems. She sees Ranma drop Rei and she'll go ape-shit and Ranma wouldn't stand a chance.

Passed the third arc it's likely that Ranma could only succeed in beating them in one on one.

Heh heh.

I just found a convenient plot device within the Ranma world that would be perfect for keeping him around while the rest of the world faded and became SM universe.

Oh the possibilities!

If you do take it up, I look forward to reading it.

It's not like Pluto can just go "lol time stop" since doing it kills her according to the manga.

K just spitballin here but bare with me.

Ok so from what I know about Sailor moon, theres supposed to be a great freeze that will kill off 90% of the human population and the only chance is that Crystal Tokyo is formed or something and the other 10% will live there. Now what if Ranma was one of the 10% who survived. All his friends and family would be dead, or so he would assume. But the great freeze was not a freezing like an iceage, it was like a time freeze, everyone except the ten percent were frozen in time, and Ranma can Unfreeze time by killing the Sailor Senshi for some reason... Im a little sketchy on the details but this way might work, I'll admit I never seen alot of sailor moon, so i don't know if this would work, but good luck.

That would imply that the Senshi were either responsible (Directly or indirectly), or existed before whatever happened.

Both are bad as a result, because the idea is very specific that neither side is responsible for the situation, and only one side can exist at a time.

Yeah i don't know enough about the Sailor Moon universe, good luck with this though. It's gonna be tough to find a good reason for ranma to kill them, while keeping both sides in character.

Do you have any idea what this idea is about?

I'll give you a hint, it's not an idea revolving around Ranma snapping Sailor Senshi necks.

I've been following this thread since it started, and I just gotta say, the idea is phenomenal. I would definitely read it.

I wasn't saying anything about How ranma should do it, but why he would need to do it, that is what my idea was about.

Alright, tell me if i miss anything here, but i'm gonna try and summarize everything going on here for the poeple who STILL don't get it.

The Ranma 1/2 canon went on normaly until, at some unspecified point in the series, and unnamed malevolent factor goes back to an as of yet undetermied point in time and changes history. this causes all that Ranma knew to be unmade before him, he himself surviving due to some plot device or another. in the strange new world he discovers the beneficiaries of the change, The Sailor Senshi.

this brings us to the core of the story. the senshi learn of what has happened to Ranma and from there is where we have the "Why should your family exist at the expense of mine" idea. where-in ranma winds up woking against the senshi who wish to continue thier own existence (because nobody wants to die) while foiling Ranmas attempts to return the world to its original state. Ranma in turn has to fight off the senshi in an attempt to find either the person who caused this mess, or a way to fix the world on his own. natualy this will cause a great deal of conflict, as both sides are inherently anti-fatality (in the senshis case, especialy against victims of circumstance). this could also change as the story goes on and the characters become more desperate to preserve their own existance, finaly choosing to not care about wether the other side lives or dies so long as they stay alive.

how did i do? not too far off i hope.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head Zenosyke.

Also, greetings!

howdy, vex! alright, now back on topic...Is ANYONE actually gonna write this?

Heh. I' m musing it. Still in the works, but Ryo hit me with a funner idea.

Crystal Tokyo killing off 90 percent of the worlds population is fannon. In the anime and manga no such occurance was ever even HINTED at.

...Yeah it was. Not Crystal Tokyo, but what came before it. Crystal Tokyo was an unrelated occurrence, but there was a cataclysmic event that killed most of the planet.

Yup yup.

That Great Freeze thing, right?

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5. Camper (on site for more than a month)
6. Apprentice (on site for more than a week)
7. Newbie (on site for less than a week)