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'Cause you've been running through my mind allll night. [thrust]

Now, this question has been steadily nagging and nagging at me for some time.

How do we know Dante's mother is called Eva? Where did that name come from? I've played through all three of the games and I cannot find a single instance when someone actually refers to his mother by name. So where did it come from? The novel? That's not canon ever since DMC3. Viewtiful Joe? Pft. The manga? Might be canon or not, but from the scans I saw the manga consists of a handful of badly drawn nonsensical comic strips in which a five year old could have come up with a better and more coherent dialogue/plot.

I only ever found out the name 'Eva' when I came online ages back, not from any of the games or articles or anything like that. Is it a piece of fanon that was adopted? Was it just part of the novel and still considered to be her name even though the novel has been scuttled? Where? If anyone knows I'd love to as well.

What I'm trying to work out is if his mother's name IS Eva, and if so, will future developers keep it simply because they included it as the title of a song? Its like TyrantHamster said in his latest chapter of Original Crisis - 'On the other hand, much like a tidal wave, Extrapolated Reality can seem extremely solid. For example it is never directly stated that Sparda has the ability to assume human form, but it’s implied almost indisputably.'

Likewise, its never directly stated what the name of Dante's mother is, or even exactly what time period she lived in. Some things we can deduce ('You're the man who lost a mother and a brother to evil 20 years ago') and other things we surmise from other sources (such as a song title, which is not a source that inspires me with confidence very much). Heck, in an early Star Trek episode Captain Kirk's gravestone read 'James R. Kirk' because Gene wanted a character with a certain middle name (Rice) in every story he did. It nevertheless got changed to 'James T. Kirk' (Tiberius) in later episodes despite the previous onscreen evidence and the wishes of the shows creator.

It might not matter. For all we know, the name of Dante and Vergil's mother might NEVER come up in any future games and she may become an insignificant background character doomed to obscurity. Do we have anything more reliable than the title of a song? She speaks once, maybe twice in the first game, is she listed in the voice credits?

In DMC2, there is no kissing: Dante is much older than Lucia and she seems to view him as kind of a father figure by the end of the game.

We don't, though I originally heard it as Eve, not Eva. Can't remember where I read it though, probably some DMC fan site somewhere on the web (happy hunting :P). At any rate, given that the DMC series play around with names and their meaning (Dante=Enduring, Trish=Short version of Beatrice, important character from the Divine Comedey), I wouldn't be surprised if Dante' mum is called Eve/Eva. It makes sense, as it fits in nicely with the names of the other central characters and their meaning. Though she could be called Betty for all we know :P

How do we know Sparda can/could assume human form/apperance?

Only canon image I know of Sparda is in the intro of DMC1, though that is more of a silhouette than anything else. So it's hard to tell if Sparda is Sparda there, or if it's Sparda in a kick-** über-cool demon armour of some sort. Phantom sees Dante as his true Devil half just before it dies, even mistaking him for the legendary knight. We've also seen other demons taking a human form (Nevan from DMC3, though one could argue that she could just be a human given tremedous demonic powers before or during Mundus' invasion of the mortal realm), not to mention that the Sparda sword changes from Force Edge to something completly different. I mean, the darn thing changes shape and function depending on how you use it (sword, spear and scythe).

Also, in DMC3 it is stated that Sparda gave up his demonic powers (possibly to be able to live closer to his wife) and perhaps thus is reduced to the "lowest" form for sentinent life, a mere mortal. This might again answer to how Sparda died, since there are no records of him going down with a bang. Considering that Sparda cut down Mundus AND his invading army on his own, I don't think Sparda would have checked out quietly if he had his powers.

Where did Sparda go when he died?

We mortals go either to Heaven or Hell all depending on how we've lived our lives, but Sparda was pure demon, born and raised in the Underworld. Also he was in theory immortal (at least as far as age goes), so where does a immortal demon go when it against all odds finally dies? Does it simply cease to be, is it Sparda resting inside the Sparda sword or perhaps just a small potion of his essence there, the rest is evenly divided between his two sons?

What's the deal behind Lucia's powers?

Similar to Dante's in every respect (looking purely at DMC2, ignoring Dante's ability to tap into demonic weapons for "themed" powers in DMC1 and 3), but does that mean that she somehow is related to Sparda? How? Does this mean that Sparda was a "swinger" before he met Eve/Eva or is Lucia somehow from a bloodline that Sparda started while he was still loyal to Mundus' rule?

Eva:

She is called that in her theme, the Viewtiful Joe games and the second novel. While none of the later two are series canon for certain, it is clear that at least in the 'vision' of the series her name is Eva.

Sparda:

Have you played Legendary Dark Knight mode? Where the character wears purple and (in DMC1) weilds Yamato, Luce and Ombra? That's Sparda's human form.

Lucia:

She was created by Arius, that's why she has those powers. And there are other human/demon hybrids on Vie du Marli that are descended from demons/devils other than Sparda.

Oh? Where?

I didn't question whether Dante's mother is called Eve/Eva, merely stating that it fits very nicely into the naming style, considering other central characters names, their meaning and how that meaning is reflected through the character's words, actions and role in the overall story.

Nope, only mode I've ever played is easy automatic. Well, I did try Normal and got pretty far (far enough to meet Frost demons, which you don't meet in Easy), though I've never beaten then game in any other difficulty than Easy. Though as I understand it, the character you play in LDKM is under debate amongst fans, of whom he really is; Sparda or an "ascended" Dante of some sort (e.g. he has reach the peak of his power and mastered his skills fully). Yamato is a Japanese sword like a kantana, similar (or identical?) to the one Vergil used in DMC3. If the purple fellow is Sparda, why doesn't he use/start with the Sparda sword? If my memory serves me, in that gamemode you have infinitive Devil trigger, so adding the most powerful demon weapon right off the bat isn't really all that much cheating. Oh well, there could be some programming issues for all I know. Oh, and Sparda wasn't known to have guns, was he? That's Dante's trademark as even Vergil considered guns to be a lower type of weapon. Then again, I suppose anything's possible.

I know Lucia was created by Arius, I'm more interested in where he got the "raw materials" for her creation. Other hydrids? Where? Who? Lucia mentions that she belives that she came from such a bloodline (hence her shock when learning she was spawned in some lab), though no further details are given. And at least in my book, a demon hydrid is like Dante and Lucia; Devil powers, human heart/mind/soul. Those skeletons that stomp after you might have been human once, though in their current state they're far to corrupted by evil to pass as human aside from physical incarnation.

In any case, reluctant though I am to consider a non-game source cannon, since the artwork was done by the original development team, as were the notations included with them, they are official enough to consider canon.

However, that being said, it also included several pictures of this big bear of a man who looked like some kind of Count or Duke or somesuch, in a family portrait sitting in a chair with two babies and a blond woman - obviously meant to be Eva and the twins, which would make that man Sparda, although he looked very different from the purple monacle man, and the style of clothes worn both by him and the blond woman were very victorian or somesuch, which, if the pictures do represent Sparda and Eva, raises some interesting questions about the age of Dante and Vergil.

Track 020:

S

(Japanese text)

The man surrounded by monsters was a

gentleman with silver hair brushed

straight back and clad in an old-style

long coat. Without changing his

expression in the atmosphere charged with

violence, he drew the great sword from

his back in a flash. So silent were his

movements it made one wonder whether

the monsters were aware of his slashing

blade. The final thing they heard was a

volley of bullets sprayed from the two

guns in the man’s hands. If they knew who

this man was, they would quake in terror.

He is the legendary Dark Knight who

alone stood up against the Underworld.

He indeed was Sparda.

So, I think we can say that the monocle-wearing person is definitly meant to be Sparda.

"I thought I was of the clan that protects Vie du Marli, those with the blood of the devils." - There are other hybrids on the islands, given Matier survives a building being blown up around her I think it's safe to say she's one.

Sparda probably doesn't have his sword because he used it to seal off the Underworld. It was there until Vergil went after it, so he must not have had it in the human world. Also, Sparda was indeed supposed to use Luce and Ombra, Ebony and Ivory are based on them.

Incidentally, the translation for the artbook I read online said that the big guy I was talking about was how the production team imagined Mundus as looking if he took human form, which is why I was confused - because in one picture it looked like Eva and the twins. Still, he does look pretty damn intimidating, and if Mundus showed up in a future game looking like that itd be pretty cool.

Btw, who is the woman with the short blond hair from the artbook? One of them has a picture where she's kissing Dante on the cheek, but Dante is in his DMC2 outfit.

Yeah, it would be cool if Mundus took human form (for the yaoi people, as long as he's not that ugly).

Okay, let me look at my artbook reprint, they have the names... There's only one picture of Dante being kissed on the cheek, and it's Trish. Her hair must be behind them.

Oh, and my mistake, the picture of the blond kissing Dante wasnt from the artbook, it was taken from the DMC2 novel (I think, it had scans of several pictures that were supposedly taken from the two DMC novels) and featured several of a blon woman with Dante who definitely wasnt Trish.

Let's see...

Lucia says: I thought... I was a descendant

of the clan that protects Vie de Marii... the ones who have the blood of the

devils... But the truth is... I... was created by Arius... I could become a

monster and attack the humans at anytime! ... Now, kill me. It's your job to

hunt devils.

Here it is:

Matier: Good grief… They really made a big mess, didn’t they? It sure took him a while to find this place… Oh, you have arrived, Son of Sparda.

Dante: You knew him?

Matier: Oh yes…

Who is Beryl? And from the artwork she looks blond, maybe strawberry blond.

If you want to look at my fanfic Seas in Incarnadine, the chapter on her contains my opinion of her. Though it's not my best work, and I'd recommend reading the novel instead if you're going to read something: it's pretty short.

While others are overjoyed, so this leads to the knowledge of an actual difference between a gamer and a hardcore fan (Quite obvious.). Does anyone think those twelve episodes will be a success?

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