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DTVTopic: The What if Thread Here are what ifs I am curious about and what to have answered. You can also contribute your own.What if the Digimon Kaizer didn't reveal his identity? What if the Digimon Kaizer did but didn't leave the Real World? What if Taichi was with his partner when the Kaizer went to capture Agumon? What if the Kaizer actually called the Chosen Children through the phone and taunted them(Got that idea from Higuchimon's "Apology")? What if Devimon actually returned via Chimeramon? What if Noriko's Dark Seed didn't flower early? What if Oikawa didn't confront Iori? What if Oikawa messed up the portal in episode 48...and they and the Chosen ended up in the Pokemon World(No, seriously. That's what I hope to write about)? What if IceDevimon took Ruki's grandmother instead of Ruki and how would Rumiko and her daughter react? | #1 Oct 22nd 2006, 10:30pm | |
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HiguchimonWhat if Taichi was with his partner when the Kaizer went to capture Agumon?That does very naughty things to the part of me that's the unashamed Taito (or Taishiro) fangirl... But here's a What If that I've toyed with off and on but never worked through. What if the Chosen arrived at Ken's apartment before he left for the Digital World? | #2 Oct 22nd 2006, 11:22pm | |
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DTVThat does very naughty things to the part of me that's the unashamed Taito (or Taishiro) fangirl...I don't quite understand that comment. You mean Yamato or Koushiro would angst about Taichi and Agumon's capture. I was thinking more about Taichi/Agumon friendship angst. Though I don't quite understand your comment, it intriges/amuses me nonetheless. What if the Chosen arrived at Ken's apartment before he left for the Digital World? That would be QUITE interesting. Since Daisuke and the others didn't bring their Digimon - which, by the way, was a VERY stupid move, considering who they were going to face - it would be up to the children themselves to bodily restrain Ken, which the Kaizer could probably get out of. There would be the predictable arguement between the two parties, with Ken smoothly answering each inquiry. And then, from your point Higuchimon, Ken would grab Daisuke's arm and go to the Digital World. The Kaizer then will do whatever in-character kinks you take pleasure in to him and the Chosen would be obsessively pursuing their goal in freeing Daisuke. V-mon shall angst and, with creepy obsession, recklessly do anything to have Daisuke back. | #3 Oct 22nd 2006, 11:52pm | |
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HiguchimonI don't quite understand that comment. You mean Yamato or Koushiro would angst about Taichi and Agumon's capture.Angst nothing, Yamato would be right there from the first moment to go find Taichi. So would Taichi. Why angst when you can get them back and then refuse to talk about why you were so eager? ;) I was thinking more about Taichi/Agumon friendship angst. Though I don't quite understand your comment, it intriges/amuses me nonetheless. Oh, that works too and there could certainly be some of that around. :) That would be QUITE interesting. Since Daisuke and the others didn't bring their Digimon - which, by the way, was a VERY stupid move, considering who they were going to face - it would be up to the children themselves to bodily restrain Ken, which the Kaizer could probably get out of. There would be the predictable arguement between the two parties, with Ken smoothly answering each inquiry. And then, from your point Higuchimon, Ken would grab Daisuke's arm and go to the Digital World. The Kaizer then will do whatever in-character kinks you take pleasure in to him and the Chosen would be obsessively pursuing their goal in freeing Daisuke. V-mon shall angst and, with creepy obsession, recklessly do anything to have Daisuke back. I once had a story plotted (I bet I could still find the plot if I hunted enough) where that roughly happened. Ken altered Daisuke's DNA so he had certain Digimon attacks, created the Dark Spirals to use on *him*, and it wound up being an alternate way to get the DIgimental of Friendship. Jun also showed up with a part (being rather miffed her baby brother was getting jerked around like that, too), and there was Ken kissing Daisuke. Usually to distract him from whatever Ken was actually about to do at the moment. Kissing can be very distracting... | #4 Oct 23rd 2006, 12:07am | |
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DTVAngst nothing, Yamato would be right there from the first moment to go find Taichi. So would Taichi. Why angst when you can get them back and then refuse to talk about why you were so eager? ;)I didn't say he wouldn't get off his butt and be right there from the first moment to go find Taichi. Just that when he finds out, he'd do some angsting before kicking the Kaizer's butt. Oh, that works too and there could certainly be some of that around. :) Oh,Yeeeessssss! Taichi bound and helpless while he watches the Kaizer experiment on one of the most important people in his life is certeinly interesting. And the Kaizer taunting his audience member would be a plus. I wonder if he would temporarily de-ring Agumon and throw him and Taichi in the same cell so they could interact, enhancing the torture? I once had a story plotted (I bet I could still find the plot if I hunted enough) where that roughly happened. Ken altered Daisuke's DNA so he had certain Digimon attacks, created the Dark Spirals to use on *him*, and it wound up being an alternate way to get the DIgimental of Friendship. Jun also showed up with a part (being rather miffed her baby brother was getting jerked around like that, too), and there was Ken kissing Daisuke. Usually to distract him from whatever Ken was actually about to do at the moment. Kissing can be very distracting... psst...do it... What would V-mon be doing while this happened? And would Jun become a Chosen Child or does she find out and "Someone's doing WHAT with my brother?!" *Waltzes onto the battlefield/scene and beats Ken to a pulp*? | #5 Oct 23rd 2006, 12:29am | |
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HiguchimonI didn't say he wouldn't get off his butt and be right there from the first moment to go find Taichi. Just that when he finds out, he'd do some angsting before kicking the Kaizer's butt.More than likely. I remember a story a while back in which controlling the Digimon meant Ken also could control their human partner. That could wind up with some *interesting* consequences... Oh,Yeeeessssss! Taichi bound and helpless while he watches the Kaizer experiment on one of the most important people in his life is certeinly interesting. And the Kaizer taunting his audience member would be a plus. Of course! He'd have to taunt. It's in the villain contract. ;) psst...do it... I've certainly thought about it long enough... What would V-mon be doing while this happened? As I recall, he's one of the main forces in getting Daisuke to snap out of Ken's control. Especially since one of Ken's commands is to destroy him. And would Jun become a Chosen Child or does she find out and "Someone's doing WHAT with my brother?!" *Waltzes onto the battlefield/scene and beats Ken to a pulp*? The second, more or less. While I like Jun as a Chosen, that's just not the plotline for that. :) Where DID I put that plot... | #6 Oct 23rd 2006, 12:34am | |
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DTVAs I recall, he's one of the main forces in getting Daisuke to snap out of Ken's control. Especially since one of Ken's commands is to destroy him. Would V-mon had been angsting before that point? And would he gaze up with big pleading eyes and say "Please remember me Daisuke? Please"? The second, more or less. While I like Jun as a Chosen, that's just not the plotline for that. :) You mean she DOES waltz onto the scene and proceeds to beat the Kaizer senseless? And here's some more What ifs... What if the Kaizer discovered the *Other* Digital Worlds (Tamers, Frontier, Savers)? And tries to invade them? What if IceDevimon kidnapped Seiko Hata instead? | #7 Oct 23rd 2006, 12:47am . Edited Oct 23rd 2006, 1:20am | |
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HiguchimonWould V-mon had been angsting before that point? And would he gaze up with big pleading eyes and say "Please remember me Daisuke? Please"?Probably not so much...more like shooting a dirty look at the Kaiser "You can't make him hurt us! And if he's going to hurt any of us, it might as well be me first!" Angst can be amusing but I prefer action. :) You mean she DOES waltz onto the scene and proceeds to beat the Kaizer senseless? Well, she gets there and chews him out verbally. I don't think he's very impressed. :) Ken likes to stay above the action where he can't get hurt by flying debris, rampaging Chosen, that kind of thing. (Ever notice that? He always stays on high ground compared to them.) What if Piemon *hadn't* left Yamato alone while he was wandering the DIgital World? What if Vamdemon bit one of the Chosen? | #8 Oct 23rd 2006, 11:52am | |
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DTVWell, she gets there and chews him out verbally. I don't think he's very impressed. :) Ken likes to stay above the action where he can't get hurt by flying debris, rampaging Chosen, that kind of thing. (Ever notice that? He always stays on high ground compared to them.)Of course, since the Kaizer is basically vulnerable to Digimon Attacks (Though his cloak seems to be strong, if it could deflect Pegasmon's attack), he'd need to be out of the line of fire. You mean Jun would confront Ken in the Digital World? How would she do that if she's not a Chosen? What if Piemon *hadn't* left Yamato alone while he was wandering the DIgital World? The Dark Master would take great pleasure in toying with MetalGarurumon and his partner's feelings before winning and capturing them. Then he'd implement any psychological torture that pleases him before probably either attempting to bring him to the Dark Side or revealing he has Yamato captive to the Chosen to incense him. I don't know what he'd do with Gabumon, but I hope he would be along, since the mind warping is sometimes fun to be done with the Chosen's partners. What if Vamdemon bit one of the Chosen? Depending upon the bitten's closest friend's character, the friend would be absolutely FURIOUS!!! (ex. Hikari is the victim and Taichi goes bonkers or Takeru gets bitten and Yamato demonstrates DBZ Rage) |
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HiguchimonYou mean Jun would confront Ken in the Digital World? How would she do that if she's not a Chosen?They bring her along. She can't open a gate for herself, but if they take her, she can come. Remember, Noriko wasn't a Chosen, but they took her with them. The Dark Master would take great pleasure in toying with MetalGarurumon and his partner's feelings before winning and capturing them. Then he'd implement any psychological torture that pleases him before probably either attempting to bring him to the Dark Side or revealing he has Yamato captive to the Chosen to incense him. I don't know what he'd do with Gabumon, but I hope he would be along, since the mind warping is sometimes fun to be done with the Chosen's partners. That was what I was *hoping* would happen back in season one when the ads for the episode after Yamato left the chosen aired. That's what they *teased* at anyway...I don't think I've ever quite forgiven them... Depending upon the bitten's closest friend's character, the friend would be absolutely FURIOUS!!! (ex. Hikari is the victim and Taichi goes bonkers or Takeru gets bitten and Yamato demonstrates DBZ Rage) Bah, everyone does that. Vamdemon goes after Taichi. Take out the leader, you take out the followers... | #10 Oct 23rd 2006, 2:54pm | |
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DTVBah, everyone does that. Vamdemon goes after Taichi. Take out the leader, you take out the followers...Take Out as in kill? Or Take Out as in incapacitate? (Guesses it's the former, but asks anyway.) | #11 Oct 23rd 2006, 8:04pm | |
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WolfDivaJust because I'm in a Frontier mood..Here's some questions:What if Izumi didn't find her beast spirit when Ranamon knocked her into the whirlpool and how would the Children react to this? (And how they would survive) What if it wasn't Kouji and Takuya who did the double Spirit Evolution? What if Kouichi got in the elevator in time? What if Ranamon didn't throw the flowers at Izumi and she didn't wake up from that spell thingy? What if Cherubimon didn't kill Ophanimon? | #12 Oct 23rd 2006, 8:42pm | |
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HiguchimonTake Out as in kill? Or Take Out as in incapacitate? (Guesses it's the former, but asks anyway.)If I told you, then you wouldn't have to read the fanfic I'm doing where that happens, would you? ;) What if Kouichi got in the elevator in time? And now via the magic of the internet, we enter Kouji's thoughts at the time... "Oh, great, now there's TWO people breathing my air!" (seriously, that's the impression I get every time I watch that episode. Kouji just looks like he wants to tell Takuya to get out, there's not enough air for the both of them...) | #13 Oct 23rd 2006, 10:10pm | |
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DTVIf I told you, then you wouldn't have to read the fanfic I'm doing where that happens, would you? ;)Ooooh, is it coming out sometime around 2007? And now via the magic of the internet, we enter Kouji's thoughts at the time..."Oh, great, now there's TWO people breathing my air!" (seriously, that's the impression I get every time I watch that episode. Kouji just looks like he wants to tell Takuya to get out, there's not enough air for the both of them...) With the way he says it, people would get the impression that Takuya and Kouichi are breathing two inches from Kouji's face. Here's another: What if the Kaizer was able to restrain and capture Takeru when the blond was assaulting him for using Devimon for Chimeramon? What if the Dark Ocean went after Takeru instead? What if Takuya and the gang didn't meet Bokomon and Neemon? What if Neemon didn't see Tomoki leaving in Episode 17? | #14 Oct 24th 2006, 4:45am . Edited Oct 24th 2006, 5:02am | |
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HiguchimonOoooh, is it coming out sometime around 2007?I sure hope so. I've been wanting to rework and finish it for years now. | #15 Oct 24th 2006, 3:55pm | |
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WolfDivaWhat if Takuya and the gang didn't meet Bokomon and Neemon?Then wouldn't have a guide at all...Plus, it would be slightly more boring..Oh and Izumi would have to take care of the egg instead of Bokomon....I think. | #16 Oct 25th 2006, 8:04am | |
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KrocketI've got a few 'what-ifs' myself.What if Jun, Momoe, Chizuru(I believe thats how her name is spelled), and Shuu become Chosen/Digidestined? What if Michael met Tai(chi) and Matt/Yamato? Lastly, what if Wallace/Willis actually existed? (since the 3rd movie is probally AU I doubt he does exist) | #17 Oct 25th 2006, 11:30am | |
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HiguchimonWhat if Michael met Tai(chi) and Matt/Yamato?I don't think that's so much as "What if" as it is a "what happened WHEN". Since he *was* right there in the DIgital World at the end with everyone else, and I'd imagine there was a round of introductions sooner or later. At any point they did meet, they'd probably be friends, and they'd be glad Mimi had new friends and new/other Chosen to hang out with in New York City. Hm...now there's an idealet looking at me...one of the older Chosen meeting Micheal without Mimi in a pre-Kaiser defeat setting...hm...*tucks it away to think about after Nanowrimo this year* Here's fresh what-ifs. What if Takato *hadn't* dreamed about Ruki & Renamon's battle? (we'd have less bad fanfic claiming she's his "dream girl". I see no downside...) What if those had *really* been the Chosen Ken was threatening with Deltamon and not Bakemon fakes? What if the same amount of time had passed in the Human World as passed in the Digital World in Frontier? (I.E., weeks/months instead of a few seconds.) | #18 Oct 25th 2006, 12:55pm | |
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DTVWhat if Takato *hadn't* dreamed about Ruki & Renamon's battle? (we'd have less bad fanfic claiming she's his "dream girl". I see no downside...)I think the same events would have more or less, happened, except Takato wouldn't have obviously recognized Ruki. What if those had *really* been the Chosen Ken was threatening with Deltamon and not Bakemon fakes? Eeeww...that wouldn't have ended well. I couldn't think of any situation right now where they would be convenantly rescued. What if the same amount of time had passed in the Human World as passed in the Digital World in Frontier? (I.E., weeks/months instead of a few seconds.) All the parents and siblings worrying themselves sick over their missing loved ones. Takuya and Company would have a lot of explaining to do when they got back. Shinya would be hurt that his brother wasn't present for his birthday. Yutaka would be guilty over being strict with Tomoki. Satomi would be fretting in distess and blaming herself, thinking that her stepmother role made Kouji disappear. Tomoko would be a nervous wreck. What WOULD happen to Kouichi's body during that time, though? (Tries not to think about it) Here's some more... What would happen if Ken was forewarned that the Odaiba Soccer Team he was going to face had Daisuke as one of their players (Judging by his expression on Episode 8, he didn't see it coming. What would have happened if he DID see it coming?)? What type of personality Jun would have had if she was the Digimon Kaizer? ...I can see that question brewing up SOME type of storm. | #19 Oct 25th 2006, 1:28pm . Edited Oct 25th 2006, 3:06pm | |
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WolfDivaWhat type of personality Jun would have had if she was the Digimon Kaizer? ...I have no idea. Amazon warrior queen who wants to enslave the male Digimon population because she feels they are inferior? I don't really know... What if the same amount of time had passed in the Human World as passed in the Digital World in Frontier? (I.E., weeks/months instead of a few seconds.) I think there would be a whole lot of drama...Plus the little fact that I highly doubt Izumi's parent(s) would like the idea of her spending months/weeks in a wilderness with just boys for company... | #20 Oct 25th 2006, 9:02pm | |
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HiguchimonWhat WOULD happen to Kouichi's body during that time, though? (Tries not to think about it)Well, since they got it to the hospital fairly fast when the time *didn't* pass, they probably would when it did. What type of personality Jun would have had if she was the Digimon Kaizer? WEll, I thought about that, and the only plausible thing I could come up with would be that some evil Digimon thinks she has potential to be evil, kidnaps and brain-wipes her and basically installs a cold and evil personality instead of her usual one. I think there would be a whole lot of drama...Plus the little fact that I highly doubt Izumi's parent(s) would like the idea of her spending months/weeks in a wilderness with just boys for company... Not like Izumi had a choice in the matter. ;) But she'd probably get the third degree about it anyway. "No, Mother, NOTHING HAPPENED! I SWEAR! GROUNDED? What do you mean, GROUNDED?" | #21 Oct 25th 2006, 11:36pm | |
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DTVWell, since they got it to the hospital fairly fast when the time *didn't* pass, they probably would when it did.What does this statement mean? I don't understand it. WEll, I thought about that, and the only plausible thing I could come up with would be that some evil Digimon thinks she has potential to be evil, kidnaps and brain-wipes her and basically installs a cold and evil personality instead of her usual one. I thought she'd retain her fangirl personality, except she'd be more unpleasant (Like the fangirls who want handsome fictional characters for themselves). | #22 Oct 26th 2006, 3:43am | |
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HiguchimonWhat does this statement mean? I don't understand it.Simple. Since in the real version, they got Kouichi to a hospital within a very short time, they would if the time-passage was identical as well. The difference would be that the Frontier Chosen wouldn't be there to see him being taken away, that's all. | #23 Oct 26th 2006, 12:23pm | |
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WolfDivaNot like Izumi had a choice in the matter. ;) But she'd probably get the third degree about it anyway. "No, Mother, NOTHING HAPPENED! I SWEAR! GROUNDED? What do you mean, GROUNDED?"If she gets grounded for simply being there..Imagine what if her parents found out about the infamous episode 15..... | #24 Oct 26th 2006, 6:06pm | |
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DTVHere's a couple of fresh what ifs:What if Garurumon was a second too slow and Patamon was dark ringed by the Kaizer? What if Vamdemon and Company arrived at the Summer Camp instead and while the villians were dawdling, the Chosen appeared with their Digimon exhausted and fresh from a battle? What if Holsemon didn't make it in time and V-mon became one of the Digimon Kaizers slaves in Episode 2? In fact, what if the above happened later when Daisuke knew his partner better later into the series? What if Takato's parents discovered Guilmon the night he was born and brought home? What if Taichi, Agumon, and Takuya's warp to the Real World occured at the same time and they encounter each other in the same dimension? | #25 Dec 26th 2006, 9:12pm | |
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Miss TakinWhat if Garurumon was a second too slow and Patamon was dark ringed by the Kaizer?I suspect that Takeru would find himself in a horrible situation. The Kaizer would probably use Patamon as way to make Takeru do anything he wished (such as make him a personal slave, possibly turn him against the other Chosen), and until Patamon was rescued or whatever, Takeru would oblige in fear that Patamon would be harmed. We all know how much he'd hate for that to happen. What if Holsemon didn't make it in time and V-mon became one of the Digimon Kaizers slaves in Episode 2?In fact, what if the above happened later when Daisuke knew his partner better later into the series? Daisuke would probably do the best he could to beat the Kaiser to a pulp as soon as he could in either situation. I think Daisuke would be better in this particular situation than Takeru would, because he would be more aggressive. What if Takato's parents discovered Guilmon the night he was born and brought home? Takato would have much less anxiety and therefore the first few episodes of the season would be less humorous. I loved the cardboard box. What if Taichi, Agumon, and Takuya's warp to the Real World occured at the same time and they encounter each other in the same dimension? Crossover time! Now all you need is for them to end up in the Real World at the same time, in the middle of a Digital Field in which one of the Tamers is battling a Digimon and you have the four completed seasons of Digimon. Hurrah! Okay, in reality Taichi probably would stay in the Real World for a little longer learning about Takuya and his group of Chosen, and then all of the Adventure kids would have been in different places when he got back and (if they were indeed part of the same Digital World) Takuya and the Frontier kids probably would help find them. And then they would have become the best of friends and everyone would be happy, until Vamdemon showed up. That would put a damper on things. Koushiro would probably get a lot of screentime, finding out about the Spirits and such. | #26 Dec 29th 2006, 12:52pm | |
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DTVHere's a what if that just sprung up in my mind and I just *had* to post.I read a post somewhere pointing out that Daisuke quickness to trust someone could be used as ammo against him. Which made me wonder. What if Ken during the Kaizer saga befriended Daisuke before his identity was revealed? And not just a day or two before the eighth episode? What about weeks before? Or months? And how would Kaizer Ken use this to his advantage? ...apologies to Higuchimon if I make your Daiken muse hyperventilate. | #27 Jun 30th 2007, 8:39pm | |
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Higuchimon...apologies to Higuchimon if I make your Daiken muse hyperventilate.*tries to adminster muse-CPR* Yeah, you'd better apologize...BREATHE! BREATHE!!! | #28 Jun 30th 2007, 9:12pm | |
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DTV...sorry? It was kinda premeditated. I was posting a topic about character weaknesses, musing about IC ways to mentally attack Daisuke, when something you said in a post about him rose in my memory. You said his ability to quickly trust someone could be used against him and after a while, that what-if came to my head. It sounded like something that would catch your interest and so I bumped a topic in order to post it.Though what *was* your reaction when you saw that what if? And how would you think it would transpire if it were to occur? | #29 Jun 30th 2007, 9:30pm | |
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Akino AmeI figure it would probably lead to an even bigger sense of betrayal by the time Ken is unmasked. Alternatively, Ken might try to get Daisuke on his side by first getting his side of the story and then warping his own story to try and convince him that he's trying to do the right thing.And here's a Savers question: What if Relena hadn't been so sickly? How would things have turned out with Touma and later with the rest of DATS? | #30 Jul 01st 2007, 9:02am | |
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Higuchimon*finally finishes getting my Daisuke x Ken/Ken x Daisuke muse back on his feet* Whew. That could've caused problems. Now, go over there and rewatch pertinent episodes so when I need you, you've got ideas. Try not to disturb the Jounouchi x Anzu muse while you're at it, please. I'll need them very soon.Though what *was* your reaction when you saw that what if? It could be very interesting. As was said, the sense of betrayal could be even *more* intense after that. That's the most likely outcome, I think. I'd have to think about it a little more to decide anything else, and it would always depend on what else was going on plot-wise. | #31 Jul 02nd 2007, 12:21am | |
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The Light's RefrainI pose a few what-ifs of my own.What if everyone in Frontier was put to some kind of test like Takuya was when Duskmon unleashed that blackness on everyone after attacking Kouji? What if the Tamers found out about Ryo's past? What if Willis was attacked by the same virus that had attacked Cocomon eariler on? On a similar idea, what if Diablomon used the internet to track down all the older DigiDestined and infect them? What if the combined power of light and darkness was too much for Kouji to handle? |
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nyc2dragonWhat if one of the Chosen Children (Didgedestineds) or Tamers betrayed everybody by purposely revealing the excistings of Digimon and having a Digimon in order to become famous? |
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Higuchimon... You know, I think they'd have to do a little more than that to be considered "traitors". Especially since in both Digimon Adventure/02 and Tamers, the existence of Digimon became *common knowledge*. |
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nyc2dragonI mean before that happens, or maybe create another reality. The idea is one kid wanting fame and to be a hero to the world so badly, that upon hearing people talk about the heroic Digimon and the kids that are their partners, that they just can't resist revealing that they are a Digidestined or Tamer, or whatever other name they might be called. |
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HiguchimonIf they're talking about heroic Digimon and their partners, then wouldn't they be known already? |
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nyc2dragonWell what I am trying to say is what if there was one kid that is so willing in keeping Digimon and the Digital World a secrat? |
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Artemis BluesI think the whole secret is out if people had seen Digimon and their Chosen being all heoric... What if one of the Adventure Chosen died in the Digital World? What if Digimon was more like X-Men? |
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