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Lord Puppetmon
Topic: Arukenimon and Mummymon
This is your resident rabid Arukenimon and Mummymon fan going WTF.

Where's the love for Arukenimon and Mummymon? Everyone I ask is all "oh, yeah, these guys! They were fun! I felt so sorry for Mummymon in the end." Which is nice, since I'm not used to people liking the characters I like. But dude, there's still no fanfiction! Okay, fine, there IS fanfiction. But it's not nearly enough. And I try my best to write things about them, but I can't do it all on my own. And I'm not going to bombard my super-busy and severely writer's blocked friend about it with emails again.

What could be the reasons? I mean, I know people like them. Lack of romantic possibilities certainly isn't a problem, since Mumm worships the ground Aru walks on and Aru isn't nearly resistant enough to his (hilariously over-the-top) flirting. Is it because they aren't OMG teh hot (dude, Aru IS hot. Mumm's not, but he's adorable in his freaky way. I know I'm not the only one who thinks so)? Is it because they're villains? Is it because teenage writers can't relate to characters that look like adults (even though Aru and Mumm certainly don't ACT very maturely)? Is it because they don't think they can write for the Digimon?

Arukenimon and Mummymon are fun characters. They're extremely fun to write for, too. Especially when you're a teenager, since Aru acts a lot like one and it's extremely easy to get into her mind. And yet, no one writes for them. And as a big fan of these two, it depresses me.

I'll go back to writing my Digimon Adventure 02 AU fic now. Which has plenty of Aru and Mumm in it.

#1 Feb 01st 2007, 11:20pm
DTV
Well, for me, they usually can't appear in my fics. Since most of my stories are post-02, they are kind of dead and they wouldn't fit into the plot of some of my stories.

Though I do plan to use them in that AU Digimon/Pokemon crossover I'm still vaguely planning where they and Team Rocket meet and comedy ensues...until you-know-who (Not Voldemort but someone who also has pale skin) and his bestest pal come along and Arukenimon and Mummymon and Team Rocket will suddenly be burdened with the task of actually killing people (More pressure on the latter).

And the pair will appear in my Frontier continuation storyline, though I don't know what they will do yet, besides being side characters trying to find out what the heck is going on without getting murdered by whoever opposes the main cast(I have a slightly clear image of what Lucemon and Nanami would do in the Tamers continuation storyline...raise hell of course!).

Come to think of it, I've always liked them better as villians. And upon rewatching the series, Mummymon has demonstrated to be a very legimate threat when mind comes to it and he isn't totally bumbling (Something I've been guilty of doing).

#2 Feb 02nd 2007, 12:16pm
Lord Puppetmon
Admittedly, they're better villains than people give them credit for. The comparison to Jessie and James (which is what started my love for them, incidentally) didn't do them a lot of good. They're much more competent and threatening than Jessie and James. Hey, Mummymon almost totaled Daisuke and Ken that one time before Paildramon evolved to Imperialdramon, and Arukenimon nearly got the kids killed several times (the Giga House incident was especially cruel. She could've killed Iori and Ken using their own partners).

But... they're not really bad. Just blindly loyal and with rather twisted morals. Not surprising, with their upbringing. They do their job very, very well, but they're both kind of too silly for me to take seriously as more than minions.

...I just can't help but think of that last scene in the episode where Arukenimon creates BlackWarGreymon. One second they're all "ahahah, splendid, now go destroy some things for us!" and the next second, after he tells them that he's not intending to serve them, they visibly shake and get this expression that pretty much says "hoshit we are SO screwed now!!" So much for villains.

#3 Feb 02nd 2007, 1:07pm
Birdboy
In fairness, Jessie and James did do fairly well a couple times... way back in Kanto. :P
#4 Feb 04th 2007, 9:25pm
VectorCrocodileFangirl
I have several ideas for Aru and Mumm fics. I totally love Mukeni, and Mummymon is in my top 5 favorite Digimon characters (following Wizardmon and Ogremon). Aru probably places in the top 10 somewhere.

But you are right about there being not nearly enough fanfiction. Us Mukeni fans, and just Aru and Mumm fans in general have to stick together in that regard, I guess.

#5 Apr 23rd 2007, 3:39pm
Ari Phoenix
I'm an Aru fan, I wished they had more on her, infact they need it, I can almost put her lineup up to her in the digivolution line, but that is kind of hard, for some of it is incomplete...
#6 Oct 06th 2007, 12:18am
Birdboy
Kokuwamon-Dokugumon-Archnemon-Diaboromon, the way I see it. (Though I think only Dogukumon-Archnemon is actually possible anywhere...)
#7 Oct 06th 2007, 8:45am
Lord Puppetmon
*sporfle* Diablomon?! WTF that makes me go WTF even more than Parasimon! *flail*

I don't like any of Arukenimon's possible Ultimates, really (and I don't even like Dokugumon as her Adult...). Except Lilithmon, but that's LadyDevimon's Ultimate.

#8 Oct 06th 2007, 11:15am
Ari Phoenix
if you haven't learned anything, any form has any number of paths.

To what I have seen it is

KoDokugamon-????-Dokunemon-Dokugamon-Arukenimon-???(Lilithmon or Babamon is suggested, but Parasarimon is usually seen)

Though Whitchmon is also seen as a champion form.

#9 Oct 06th 2007, 9:01pm
Lord Puppetmon
if you haven't learned anything, any form has any number of paths.

You worded this in a rather offensive manner. =/

In any case, all I know is that I'm extremely picky when it comes to Arukenimon's forms. (Which is weird since I'm considerably more open to Mummymon's forms...)

#10 Oct 06th 2007, 11:14pm
Ari Phoenix
Sorry, I just get tired of how the Anime and some of the newer games have screwed up the fact that Digimon don't have a strict lineup, and it really messes with me, there are the main lineups, and then there are all the branching lineups.

So Again, sorry I said that as I did, but remember please, that a lineup is not cut in stone, even a Digimon like Arkadimon(Whoes main line is just him advancing to a higher level) has branching forms.

#11 Oct 10th 2007, 10:12pm
nyc2dragon

If you want a story staring those two characters. I have a great story idea, and if anyone wants to write it, let me know.

The story is, By some miracle Arukenimon and Mummymon are reborn, it turns out Oikara had a young daughter, when her mother dies, she is left to live to leave in an orphanige, Arukenimon and Mummymon meet her and feels a a connection to her, they "kidnap" her (though she leaves with them volunteerly) from the orphanige, and they raise her as their own. Eventully the authorities will go looking for the girl. Even though they don't why (it is because part of Oikara lives in them), they love this child and she loves them back. Very sweet story.

I agree Arukenimon and Mummymon aren't really bad, just blindly loyal to Oikawa. In way they were redemed because Oikawa was redemed, deep down they care about Oikawa. I think if they had to choice between Oikawa or Malomyotismon, they would chooce Oikawa, they are loyal to him, I think Malomyotismon knew that and killed them because of that.

#12 Jul 14th, 9:40pm . Edited Jul 14th, 9:49pm
Lord Puppetmon

...I really dunno what to think of that. Oikawa with a daughter...? I suppose accidents can happen, but... it just doesn't sound right. Plus, I'm not sure Arukenimon and Mummymon would feel much for her instantly. They may have been created with Oikawa's DNA, but it doesn't mean they can sense his DNA in others or anything. I'm sure that if they knew it's Oikawa's kid, they'd do anything in their power to protect it (especially Mummymon; I'd think Arukenimon would be vaguely jealous and reluctant but would help out anyway).

And why is it always a daughter...?

Mummymon cares a lot about Oikawa, he's not even trying to hide it. He is very protective of Oikawa and has a lot of respect for him; even when he's off-duty and the guy isn't around he calls him "Mr. Oikawa". He's the kind of guy that will do anything for his loved ones, and that definitely includes Oikawa. Arukenimon kind of puts on a mask when she's around Oikawa; she acts like a sycophant, and growls and mutters about having to do work for him behind his back. But that's because she's a freakin' teenager and doesn't like being told what to do; in the end, she's still incredibly loyal to him and is very focused on doing the missions he gives her in the best way possible. She's the one who cares deep down. She hates showing it.

#13 Jul 15th, 9:51am
nyc2dragon

Well you wanted a story, that is what I have? I have more detail to add that just thought of.

Initally they sense something in the girl, they don't she is Oikawa's daughter yet. They are plan on putting those evil spors or what ever they used on those kids towards the end of Adventures 02 season, (I forget exactly) but they just can't do it for some reason.

I have this great sense in which Arukenimon is waiting for the girl to fall in sleep, in order to execute the plan, but as she falls a sleep, she puts arms around Arukenimon, and she just can't put the evil spors into her. And she doesn't know why. (It is sort of the samething Gatomon went through when she couldn't harm Hakari when she was working for Myotismon)

I am not sure about the ending, either they get to keep the girl, or they return her to the proper authorities, she gets adopted by a human family, but she gets to she her friends Arukenimon and Mummymon.

I think we are in agreement, that they were loyal to Oikawa and would choice him over Malomyotismon. That is probably got killed, Myotismon he can sense disloyality, the same reason he killed Pumpkinmon and Gotsumon, because they more interested in having fun than following him.

#14 Jul 15th, 10:06am
Lord Puppetmon

You can write that idea if you want... I don't like it, it feels out of character for everyone.

#15 Jul 15th, 10:10am
nyc2dragon

Okay you entitled to your opinion. Though I hope you are least apprecate that I came up with an idea for those characters, since very few people do.

#16 Jul 15th, 10:15am
Lord Puppetmon

Hey, look, don't be offended, I'm glad someone bothered trying to come up with an idea for them. I just didn't like it, is all...

#17 Jul 15th, 10:16am
nyc2dragon

I am not offended at all, I just wanted some credit or thank you for trying. Though if I write such a story, I say to you, don't judge by a book its cover. Maybe my description sounds bad and out of character, but the story might be different. You never know.

But reguardless, like yourself I do like those two characters, they are very underrated and people over look them a lot. I wish the Digidestineds would have shown some level of sympathy when they died at the hands of MaloMyotismon. Telling MaloMyotismon "How could you do such a vicious thing?" would have been nice. They weren't friends with Oikawa they cried when he died.

#18 Jul 15th, 10:24am . Edited Jul 15th, 10:26am
Lithrael

Hi Zoombie! Thanks for posting your story idea. :) I can't say I'd be real excited about that story, though. Mummy & Keni reluctantly bonding with an OC could be cute, but that's not really my kind of thing.

But I certainly understand it's tough to come up with a good story for them! I haven't written one in quite a while, and I have three sitting around that I haven't been able to finish. Actually, one of them is mostly Mummymon bonding with an OC, and it is, sadly, kind of crap... XD

There was a really interesting idea for a pre-Adventure 02 AU that I heard once, where Mummy & Keni had been human children, and were infused with Digital stuffs to recreate them as half-Digimon... I thought it had lots of potential. :)

#19 Jul 15th, 2:07pm
nyc2dragon

Well friend your entitled to your criticism, though I think I should get the benefit of the doubt of letting me write my story and reading them before we judge. Just because my premese doesn't look promosing, doesn't mean my execution could make a surprise good story. I don't mean to brag, but I have mostly possitive reviews on my stories.

Though if I can criticise myself, I am not good on finishing them, which is why I mostly do short stories. There is one story that I started that everyone likes and wants me to continue, but I thought was bad, and wasn't going anywhere.

I have other ideas too, another one is Oikawa who is now the spirit of the forest orders them to do good deeds to help the Digital World.

#20 Jul 15th, 2:30pm
Lithrael

It's not really a criticism, since I don't have any problem with your idea. It's more that it's just not a genre I like. It could be written flawlessly and I still would have a hard time getting excited about it. ;) I prefer stories with a lot more action and meat to them - you know, adventure stories! :D Stories that are more about getting lots of character exploration aren't really my thing. That's kind of why my Mummymon & OC fic stalled out, I realised I had a whole chapter about Mummymon getting a dog and I got bored. XD

Of course if you wrote it and I really liked it, then I'd take it all back! ;)

Oikawa as some kind of benevolent force in the Digital World after the end of 02 is one idea I really like. I've used it before myself. :)

#21 Jul 15th, 2:43pm
nyc2dragon

You already misjudging, because that story idea of Arukenimon and Mummymon raising Oikawa's kid, it would have pleanty of action in it. I think a good story can do all kinds of things in story both action and character exploration.

You liked my other idea? I thought people would think the one with Oikawa being the spirit of the Digital World would be corny, but I guess you are not one of them Lithrael.

Any story I would do that star these two characters, I would probably keep the Digidestineds out of it.

#22 Jul 15th, 2:57pm
Lithrael

That's certainly true. You just hadn't mentioned the actioney part yet. ;)

And I love me a corny idea, well-realised. :D

#23 Jul 15th, 3:00pm
nyc2dragon

I thought I did. They find this girl in a orphanage, and she volunteerly goes with them. If you thought the orphange was just going to let them take this girl without getting the proper authorities you crazy. So they will have to deal with the fuzz.

But there will be a villain, a evil Digimon that kidnaps the girl, I don't know who it would be, weather if would be an OC or someone that already excist on the show like Daemon and his gang or maybe one of the Dark Masters, I haven't thought about that yet. Though I won't be Myotismon as much as I think he rocks as a villain.

If you thought the story was just them raising this child peacefully with no real conflict, you are mistaking. But there will be probably be some comic relief peacful chapter with no action. BTW, Oikawa's daughter would be in the range of 5 to 8 years old in this story.

I understand if you thought that, I have written a couple of stories with just character exploration with no action, like the one with Cinderella at her step mother's funeral, or Mai and Ty Lee's Day Off, of course those were short stories. That is my plan when I came up with this idea.

#24 Jul 15th, 3:06pm . Edited Jul 15th, 3:28pm
The Two-One-Five

One major flaw I see in this story is that Oikawa was practically obsessed with Hiroki when he died. I doubt he would be trying to find love with a woman seeing as he was too focused on his goal of reaching the digital world. I could work, if done in the proper time but even so, stories like that aren't exactly my cup of tea.

#25 Jul 15th, 4:16pm
nyc2dragon

Well I hate to sound like a person that stereo types people, but in my story, Oikawa is a messed up person yes, but there are women that see a messed up guy that think I can change him, I can make him normal. And at some point Oikawa meet one of those women who felt sorry for him, and thought they could help him, and was very procedent. (In Tamers there was that type of relationship between Yamaki and some girl that worked for him. He was obcessed with his work, while this girl was in love with him.) Anyway before their relationship ended they somehow produced a child. If you consider Oikawa obcession with Hiroki as a drinking problem, there could have been a point when they tried in vain to kick the habbit. Right after Oikawa impregnanted this girl, he just couldn't stop his obcession with Hiroki and his madness and the relationship ended without before the woman found out she was pregent with his child. That is my story and I am sticking to it.

But this is a show about data creating these creatures called Digimon, sometimes you have suspend reality. So somehow Oikawa found time to impregnant some woman, I don't think that is so far fetch compared to other things on the Digimon show.

#26 Jul 15th, 4:31pm . Edited Jul 15th, 4:40pm
The Two-One-Five

Thing is, you're comparing Oikawa to Yamaki to prove a point, which I assure you is not the best way to go about it.

Yes, Yamaki was obsessed with his work, but other professionals like Doctors and Detectives are too. Yamaki also thought he was doing the right thing after all, they knew very little of the digimon. He was involved in their creation so he probably though it was his duty to prevent them from coming to the real world. Since they didn't have an ability to freely open digital gates like the 02 chosen had, destroying them was probably the best option.

Now post Vamdemon Oikawa was seriously f-ed up. Don't believe me, just look at him during one of Ken's flashbacks. If that doesn't scream out "screwed in the head" then nothing will. This was a guy who was willing to sell out his own kind to keep a promise to a friend and, while it can be interpreted as noble, it can also be interpreted as boarder line crazy and obsessive. He also threw his life away just to focus his attention on his goal.

Not saying your fic can't work, just that it was unwise to compare Oikawa to Yamaki in that fashion. There are better ways that you could go about writing the story. One way would be to involve Pipimon instead of a human character, as Pipimon never got a chance to trully bond with his partner, but did meet him in canon. Since Archnemon and Mummymon actually knew Oikawa, they would probably be more willing to care for his digimon rather than a child they don't know, who would probably be better off being raised by humans.

Edit: on an unrelated note, typing in Oikawa on google will take you to his wikipedia page. Awesomeness!

#27 Jul 15th, 5:12pm . Edited Jul 15th, 5:37pm
nyc2dragon

Well I wouldn't compare Yamaki in a story, just trying to make a point.

I remember Pipimon, I felt so bad for him, I almost always on boarderline tears when Pipimon appears. It wasn't fair. The thing is if Arukenimon and Mummymon cared for Pipimon would bring no conflict. That is a nice story, and since Oikawa is the spirit of the Digital World, he would approve, and really who is going to have a problem.

Caring for a human creates conflict with the real world authorities. There are no Digimon police to interfere. Since Oikawa is the guardian of the Digital World, and if he approves (which he no doubt would because they excist to serve him), no reason for anyone to object.

What I am trying to get through and explot in my story ideas, is the over looked fact, that deep down they loved and cared about Oikawa. Oikawa is apart of them, he created them with parts of him, and they would do anything for him, and they were loyal only to him. (hate to beat a dead drum, but I believe MaloMyotismon choose to kill them because he knew they would never truely be loyal to him like they were for Oikawa)

I hope you all see where I am coming from. Weather you like my ideas or not, I hope you all understand what the overal point these ideas are trying to make. And that is the bond that Oikawa had with Arukenimon and Mummymon.

#28 Jul 15th, 5:48pm . Edited Jul 15th, 5:52pm

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