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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/788456/

they should all be banned, IP blocked, and have their ISP notified. All of them[flamers] esp. like that guy, hypocritically flame ppl for breaking

rules, when flames are against the rules.

#6 Sep 05th 2007, 5:45pm . Edited Sep 05th 2007, 5:46pm

Mad Red Queen

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1378120/Jesus_Hates

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1372557/Darker_Hershey_Lite

These three should all have a lifetime ban from their computers. All three are skinheads, and the bottom just posts nonsense under the Naruto fanfic area. Help me save the competent from the idiots on this site- get these people banned! (I'll come back if I find another moron that crosses my path)

#7 Oct 10th 2007, 5:17am

llamaBoyPH

I think this user should be warned or suspended, since she only writes seemingly incoherent stories that has nothing to do with the story's category:

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1186116/yoitsus

#8 Oct 14th 2007, 12:01am

Cherry-Wolf

I think that the webmaster of fanfiction.net really needs to step up and do something about the trolls. And when I mean trolls, I mean someone who has no stories at all and goes around posting ridiculous chain-hate messages in peoples reviews.

Though I don't like the idea of nonsense stories and what not, people with stories shouldn't necessarily be considered trolls, if they are making offense comments that don't deal with the story at all, I'd understand in a banning of some sort.

#9 Oct 17th 2007, 1:59pm

SMARTALIENQT

Interesting...

All these people, with the exception of the last one to be posted, are "no longer an active member" on this site. While I would have liked to see exactly how terrible they were-so I could laugh at them-the fact that all these people no longer exist is wonderful, especially since they must have been terrible to deserve a place on here.

--SMARTALIENQT :)

#10 Feb 20th, 2:08pm

TideDrop

Yeah, most of them are no longer active! *cheers* But the ff.net support team sucks big time. They really need to crack down on people who deserve to be banned.

#11 Feb 20th, 6:05pm

Freedom Tide

anyone mention Flame Rising or any of his alternate accounts? he should devinantly be banned! he doesn't even write stories, all he does is flame people!

#12 Feb 25th, 9:55am

Jugendiaer-Hack

Six thousand attempts, give or take. They didn't work, 'cos he's still here and so is his forum. Besides, flames are half-deserved in their own right.

Anyways, F/R is considered not as a flamer but more of a troll - the biggest on FFN because his forum is too, and is his ultamite trolling arena - admin powers and whatnot. Anyway that's all for now from me.

#13 Feb 28th, 1:51am

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1362257/wolf_princess_of_darkness

F/R is probably one of the administrators; either that, or he's too big to be shut down. Gosh, he's a freaking legend, even off of ff.net.

I have a huge, huge, HUGE troll who has been stalking me on other forums and saying crap about me TO MY FACE.

Her penname changes ALL the time, so be warned.

This is her alternate account, which she used to try and spam my forum some more. Too bad I recognized her from her second review ;)

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1495043/Gabriella_Rose

#14 Feb 28th, 8:09pm

Oh, dear God, she's followed me onto this forum.

Honestly; this is INSANE. I swear, it's creepy. Shortly after I joined, she joined, and she's been stalking me ever since. Who is the moderator of this forum? Could you please block her? I would love you forever.

#15 Feb 29th, 5:25am

Pratorian of the Force

Either way the admin. aren't responding... No he the emperor isn't anything, not even you knew what happened to make me seem like I have 'a vendetta against him'. I've met a couple of users on the 1st page who have no idea who he is. The rest ignore him. He's just a boring troll.

Ghost King was a legend, I never saw what he did, but I've heard of him. I wish I saw him though.

That user was one the flame topictoo. Looks like they're following you. Report to the admin. unless they don't respond. Then switch sites or eleminate any personal information from your account.

#16 Mar 01st, 11:32am . Edited Mar 01st, 11:37am

Here's someone who's asking to get banned http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1305923/BitchBastard. He harasses people in reviews with flames that arn't even relivant.

#17 May 03rd, 12:51pm

Ew. Well, if the administration took down profiles that had inappropriate pics (as that one does), he wouldn't be there. But hey, this is the internet; we can't expect every troll-flamer to be subtle.

#18 May 03rd, 7:02pm

Right! Good point. One of the "out there" trolls.

#19 May 03rd, 7:08pm

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1120881/The_Year_2007

He does nothing but post complete garbage with spelling errors. I can't go to a m-rated sly cooper fanfic without seeing his garbage. He constantly changes his name, so be warned.

#20 May 03rd, 8:29pm

Oh my gosh just read his stuff. Just a bunch of words strung together.

#21 May 03rd, 8:35pm

Hey, hey now. I write stories just like that. Of course whenever I do I'm normally on pain medication, stressed, tired, angry, drunk, and I feel lazy. But still!

#22 May 03rd, 8:52pm

I've written some stuff that's not my best usually when I'm on tranquilizers or tired.

#23 May 03rd, 8:53pm

Bad fics happen to the best of us but that guy has taken sucky to a whole 'nother level. It's people like that are slowly, murdering fanfiction.

#24 May 03rd, 8:56pm

LonePhantom756

If that's who I think it is, then the bum blasted my work as well, int he past. However, after a while, the Devs FINALLY got around to erasing the bum's hate-flame off my reviews board, and I've yet to see it again. My advice: Ignore the scumbag. He's just jealous of our writing talents, and he's trying to make us feel bad about ourselves because that's the only way HE can feel big. Heck, I didn't even read his fics because I could tell, just from the descriptions, that they were likely to S-T-I-N-K.

Really, though, the Devs ought to keep an eye on new arrivals to FF.net, just to make sure that they aren't Octvarius trying to come back like the untalented, unimagniative cockroach that he is.

#25 May 06th, 9:47pm

I've seen the profiles and there's two that anger me to the extreme

B****Bastard and TheYear2007. They're racists and useless scumbags. If they ever touched my stuff I'd send them flame throwers in return.

I'm black. Just in case you ask.

How do you block users? I hope there's a way, because those guys aren't worth my time (and anyone else's). For Heaven's sake this isn't a porn site! FF.Net allows this kind of bull?

#26 May 07th, 7:59pm

When you log in, there's a panel on the left that says "Filter." When you click on that, in the top right corner it should say Block Users or something. Type in their penname or id number and they should be blocked.

I've already set it for quite a few flamers who aren't even funny; they advertise their own profiles in flames. Yeah.

#27 May 07th, 8:07pm

This is a clone troll account made by someone called Shadow or maybe Kaiser.

This is not Kovu 01

#28 May 08th, 10:01am . Edited May 08th, 3:32pm

I think that post was deleted. Oh, dear; now it looks like I'm being accused of being a troll!

The troll in question repeated the same message on another topic. *sighs* I know trolls think they're funny and all, but they're so completely obvious. There's no point in calling yourself one thing when everyone else is perfectly aware you are another.

#29 May 08th, 1:34pm

God, that is annoying!

#30 May 08th, 2:05pm

The same imposter (Kovu01) has posted on several self-plug threads. It's crazy!

I've blocked many trolls so far.

#31 May 08th, 2:08pm

I may sound evil, but I also have a long block-list. I should probably add that other one...

Anyway, some of them I think have stopped coming here long ago; they're comments are just stupid, even for flames. They're all worshippers of Flame Rising but have no clue what they're doing, so I blocked 'em. I've blocked him, too, come to think of it...

#32 May 08th, 2:11pm

I don't really have a block-list yet, haven't gotten to know any trolls, no flames, man, I'm lucky

#33 May 08th, 2:27pm

LoL sorry Chesnut. I'll edit my post...

Lol it isn't mean Chesnut. Those people have done stuff to deserve it. The purpose of the block list is to minimize harassing or unwanted attention or something. It's actually those users being mean to end up on it. I have a long 1 too.

Yeah that troll meme is annoying. Their posing is weak.

#34 May 08th, 3:31pm . Edited May 08th, 3:32pm

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/841956/Lil-Miaka

Avoid this one! I swear something is wrong.

#35 May 12th, 9:50am

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1170985/

Here is one who thought it funny to impersonate me. Copied my whole profile information into their profile, too.

So, if you see any post of this person on this forum or elsewhere, that isn't me. I actually know how to spell "Crowdaughter".

#36 May 12th, 10:05am . Edited May 12th, 10:06am

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1538697/Zimmily

A total idiot! Posting stupid crap (sorry if I sound rude, but damn!)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4256866/1/Queen_of_the_Flies_LOTF_Redone

You call this fanfiction? WTF?! No canon characters, no disclaimer, and a bunch of BS. Always begging for no flames, but can't spell properly. This person should be banned!

#37 May 18th, 6:55am . Edited May 18th, 6:59am

Ookami-Ou

There is no rule in the TOS that specifically states that flames are not allowed. Harassment of other users is more like going onto their forum/stories and spamiing them repeatedly, or flooding their inbox with pms saying threatening things.

FR does none of that. While you may not like him and want him to get banned, as long as he doesn't do any of the above he is safe.

Besides its FFN a free site not a dictatorship, we can't stop him if he doesn't want to.

#38 May 22nd, 2:55pm

Sorry to burst your bubble. It is not in the TOS but in the guidelines. Part 4: "Respect your fellow users". A flame is not a review respectful of fellow users, but by definition an entry in the review board meant to insult the author. And as such it is against the guidelines. And the TOS do not give a specific definition of harassment. However, flaming, leaving spam reviews, leaving obscene reviews, leaving reviews in which the person is told to go play in traffic at rush hour or jump of a cliff... are probably not too far off the mark.

FR does not leave outright flames anymore. He did so, last year, though. Two of his trademark flames actually contained the advice to the writer to go play in traffic, or to jump off a cliff.

So... the whole fight over him is old news, presently, but some of his defenders should actually read the guidelines and the TOS they are so fond of selectively reading.

Edited to take care of crappy spelling. :(

#39 May 22nd, 4:45pm . Edited May 22nd, 4:47pm

Ookami-Ou

Ah but the guidelines are just that guidelines.

and speaking of selective reading, what about the respect the reviewers portion or the spell check or the grammar or the formatting hmm. How many authors do you think actually take them into consideration.

Here is a list of conducts that should always be observed:

Spell check all stories and poems. There is no excuse for not doing this. If you do not have a word processor that has the spell checking feature, use a search engine such as Google.Com to find one. Proofread all entries for grammar and other aspects of writing before submission. 'Hot off the press' content is often riddled with errors. No one is perfect but it is the duty of the writer to perform to the best of his/her ability.

Respect the reviewers. Not all reviews will strictly praise the work. If someone rightfully criticizes a portion of the writing, take it as a compliment that the reviewer has opted to spend his/her valuable time to help improve your writing. Everyone here is an aspiring writer.

Respect your fellow members and lend a helping a hand when they need it. Like many things, the path to becoming a better writer is often a two way street. Use proper textual formatting. For example: using only capital letters in the story title, summary, or content is not only incorrect but also a disregard for the language itself.

your forgetting that many of the people he flames do not follow these guidelines at all.

So tell me do all the authors that disregard these guidelines deserve to be banned, according to the logic of this topic they do.

#40 May 22nd, 4:49pm . Edited May 22nd, 4:53pm

So tell me do all the authors that disregard these guidelines deserve to be banned, according to the logic of this topic they do.

Nope. Because doing all those things are not harassment. Deliberate and methodical flaming, on the other hand, is. Death threats (or the advice to jump off a cliff) are. Telling the flamed people to come in a forum if they wish to complain, and if they actually do so, then humiliating them together with a mob of people, is very close to that, too. And all those things were practices of Flame Rising, last year.

Besides, even bad spelling, all caps stories, and other disregard of TOS does not justify flaming the author. Two wrongs does not make a right. The only time when I think flaming is all right (and the author deserves is) is with plagiarism. Because in this case, somebody else really got hurt: the author of whom the story was stolen. Otherwise, the author who posts a dreadful story hurts nobody; after all, the reader choses to read the story, and can always go for the back button.

Different with reviews. those are directly submitted to the author, and they are something the author *will* read. So, whoever leaves a flame to the author *means* to hurt. There is a difference, there.

And note that I am speaking of flames, here, not of concrit. Concrit = critical comments on the story (as opposed to flames = insulting comments to the author).

And now, I will give up on beating this dead horse and go to bed. Because I have had this discussion several times, already, and have neither the time nor patience to do it once more, today. Another time, Ookami, perhaps. Or not. We'll see.

#41 May 22nd, 5:24pm . Edited May 22nd, 5:27pm

Beating a dead horse...oooookay.

I'll admit, I've left flames in the past for reasons that make no sense to me now, but as you said: Plagiarism should be the only exception. Then again, I may just be biased because I've had several stories copied shamelessly. It's one of the most annoying things in the world and I have no qualms about flaming something I know for certain is plagiarized.

FR's been a little quiet lately...at least, from what I can tell. I do remember his flames, though. All I can say is this: I don't care how many supporters he has; his flames were the most immature and ludicrous things I've ever seen. And I haven't even been flamed by him, nor have my friends (that I know of).

#42 May 22nd, 5:47pm

Qzil

Um, I would just like to point out that flames are not against the rules. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Flamers do not "deserve to be banned" from fanfiction. The stories that deserve flames, however, their writers deserve to be blocked.

FR actually flamed someone yesterday, he deleated the fic, though.

#43 May 29th, 7:45pm . Edited May 30th, 4:10am

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Flamers do not "deserve to be banned" from fanfiction.

You confuse flames with critical reviews, here. A flame, by definition, is a deliberate insulting comment to the writer, and no, according to the guidelines, which demand tat you respect your fellow writers, you are *not* entitled to insult them. You *are* entitled to dislike their stories, and say so, and even point out that their stories are against the TOS, and report them. You are *not* entitled to tell them they are morons for writing such drivel, and should go jump of a cliff (which, basically, FR did for some time).

And yes, I think tnat writers need to get the option to delete those kind of flames, as well as obscene spam posts, since the report button no longer seems to work, sadly.

The stories that deserve flames, however, their writers deserve to be blocked.

Sorry. Posting stories is not a banning offense. TOS-violating stories can be reported, and might get deleted. But their authors have the right to try again and post something better that is more in accordance with the TOS, and that is how it should be. It would be sad for this site (and the whole Internet...) otherwise, if "do it wrong first time, and you're out" applied here.

#44 May 29th, 11:13pm

Cherry-Wolf

Wow... I didn't know there were people who thought flames were respectful reviews. That makes me pretty sad. Do you guys realize that flames are reviews that are intended to insult the author? Sure, some n00b writers will confuse some legit critical reviews as flames, but a true flame is someone calling the writer an idiot for writing the story and they should go kill themselves.

No writer ever, and I mean ever deserves to be blocked. That would just put away the whole point of fanfiction. It would destroy the whole meaning of it all. Fanfiction is being wrote by amateur writers and even some advanced/professional writers write then. The moment you start banning people for writing 'bad-fics' full of grammar mistakes, is the moment elitism is getting out of control.

I am shocked to know that a fellow fanfic writer would rather get rid of another writer than a person who goes and insults others and being a total ass.

Now, People who leave flames that have nothing to do with the story and are just chain hate-mails need to be banned. People who leave flames that insult the writer's intelligence, depending on the content of the alleged review, should be giving a warning.

#45 May 30th, 2:46am

Qzil

-Shrug-

Not all flamers are bad people, mostly they're just from shipper wars and . "OMG U MADE3Z FUNZ OFF MY FAVE CHARACTOTER!!!11!!!!1" Type things.

Really, not one writer deserves to be banned? You've never posted in the pokemon fandom, have you? We had a week a few weeks ago when a spammer was stealing story titles and posting porn. Now, he had other fics, but, he deservedto be banned. There are opinions, and there are exceptions. I was merely stating mine, because I tink Flame Rising is doing FF a favor by weeding out shit-fics. But, that's my opinion, you can think whatever you want.

#46 May 30th, 4:16am

Actually there are better ways to give concrit than flaming. Flaming's just starting a fight with the author & really immature. Harhs concrit works too and no one is appointed to weed out bad fics... that's Xing's job not ff users. Or someone else should weed out bad reviews like flames.

ANd that said user, FR, is a troll & nothing more. If you don't believe so, he's been sporking me & on my case for months this year over lies. My forum proves every reason he gave for a 'legit' reason to start getting on my case again was a lie.

His regulars lie the same way & constantly make up assumptions based on lies about me and a few others... and all sorts of stuff. They're as annoying to me and a few others as another troll group who targeted us...

#47 Jun 01st, 9:40pm

Qzil

Honestly, hon, I think you're grouping and making assumptions just a bit.

#48 Jun 03rd, 6:10pm

No not at all...

They all have done that... if you look at the monument to trolling that is #1 by posts counts

#49 Jun 04th, 12:15pm