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Rhea Silverkeys
Topic: How to Upload Documents, Post & Edit Stories
[Note: This was taken from Alfonts' step-by-step.]

After reading the guide, if there are any further questions or comments, feel free to PM me or any of the mods, or post in this topic only. All uploading and posting issues are only to be discussed here. Also, if you find the guide confusing or whatever, just let me know!

Contents of this post

I. Posting a new story

II. How to add additional chapters

III. How to edit stories

IV. Solution to uploading problem

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I. Posting a new story

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1. Break up the chapters into individual files on your computer. This is the single easiest way to create different chapters. I recommend you simply start a new document whenever you start a new chapter.

2. Upload these files (via your document manager) to the website.

i. Log in

ii. On the left, click "documents"

iii. Down the bottom you will see three fields to fill out. They're pretty self explanatory: Doc label (this is so you can identify your chapter after you've uploaded it, don't bother with file extensions as they sometimes confuse the system); file type (I don't write poetry, so if anyone can tell me what the difference actually is, that would be great); and File on computer (click "browse" to select the file you wish to upload)

iv. Click "submit document"

v. You should now see the file in the "document manager"

3. Click on "stories" on the left

4. Click on "new story" at the top right.

5. i. In the text-box there will most likely be a message stating that you have not agreed to the guidelines, even if you have previously, if it was longer than 7 days ago you need to do it again.

ii. Click the underlined "guidelines"

iii. Read them *wink wink, nudge nudge* and scroll to the bottom of the page to click on "I accept"

6. Click "new story" again. What follows is some very basic step by step instructions. When you're filling out the fields, the only one that might be might be misleading is "Document". This seems to be where many people make their mistake. You can only select a file you have already uploaded to your "document manager" (That was step 2, so if you've been following this guide you should be covered!), it does not allow you to take them straight from your computer.

7. Click "Submit story". You now have a story on FF.net.

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II. How to add additional chapters

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1. Upload the next chapter if it's not in your document manager (steps 1-2 of part I).

2. Go to "stories"

3. Click on "List Stories" (you should already be there).

4. Click on the "edit" button sitting on the right of the details of the story you want to edit

5. Click on "Content/Chapters", it's near the top.

6. i. Simply fill out the appropriate fields and click "add"

ii. If you wish to replace an existing chapter (Which I will look at in more depth under "editing"), simply fill out the fields under that heading.

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III. How to edit stories

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Unfortunately editing is a bit of a pain of ff.net, so here's a brief guide as to the quickest way to do it.

1. Click "Stories"

2. Click the "edit" button of the story you wish to edit.

3. Here you can make any superficial changes to the story (title, summary, rating, etc.) Remember to click "Save changes" at the bottom when you are done.

4. To make changes to the actual content of the story, click "content/chapters" near the top of the page.

5. Next to each chapter you will see four buttons. I will explain each of these in turn:

Edit: NOT how you change the content of the chapter, simply used to change the chapter title and it's position. Simply click it, make the changes then click "save"

Delete (del): Pretty obvious. Delete the chapter.

Export (exp): Very useful, moves a copy of the chapter to your document manager. A copy of the chapter you export also remains where it is, you can replace it later.

Backup (dl): Bring up a page with only the text of your story on, convenient for copying and pasting back into word (or equivalent).

6. What you do next depends on how much editing you have to do. If you only have to change a few typos, then it's probably easiest to do it in the editor provided in the document manager:

i. Click "export"

ii. Click "documents"

iii. Click "edit/preview" for the chapter required

iv. Make the changes

v. Click "save changes"

vi. Follow the steps for "adding a chapter" above, simply selecting to "replace" the chapter you have edited.

If you have some heavy editing to do (entire passages for example), you will most likely prefer to do this in word (or equivalent) on you computer. If you have a copy saved to your hard drive that is exactly the same as is up on the site, then simply edit on your computer and resubmit it. Follow the instructions "adding a chapter", using step 6 ii).

i. Click "backup"

ii. In the new window simply highlight the text (or press Ctrl + A)

iii. Right click anywhere on it

iv. Click "copy"

v. Open up a new word document

vi. Right click in the blank space (or click "edit")

vii. Click "paste"

viii. Make your changes, remembering to save them at the end

ix. Follow the instructions for "adding a chapter", using step 6 ii)

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IV. Solution to uploading problem

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The first thing to always do it try and send it as a plain text file...I don't know why, but that does seem so solve a surprising amount of troubles.

Did you click upload and come up with a blank screen? This bug happens pretty frequently, but we've found a way around it. Although, it can only be used if you have at least one chapter previously submitted. If you're submitting your first chapter (i.e. creating your first story), then there's not a lot I can really suggest, other than: wait for the bug to sort itself out.

1. Log in and go to your page.

2. Click "stories".

3. Click on the title of any story you have there, it doesn't matter which one.

4. Click "contents/chapters".

5. On the right, next to each chapter, you'll see the four buttons I've previously mentioned. Click on "exp" next to any chapter. Again, it doesn't matter which one. Now you'll have a document in the document manager. I'll note again that by clicking export a copy of the chapter goes to your document manager. The actual document remains where it is.

6. Click "Documents" on the top left.

7. There should be a copy of the document you exported sitting there. Click the "edit/preview" button.

8. Now you simply highlight all the text and delete it.

9. Open up the new chapter you wish to add in whatever word processor you use, and cut and paste it into the document you have open.

10. Click "Save Changes"! Believe me, you'll kick yourself if you forget.

11. Simply place this document that you've made into whatever story you wish, simply treat it as a normal document in your manager and, if necessary, follow the instructions in previous parts of this guide.

#1 Aug 13th 2007, 1:32am . Edited Jan 19th, 7:44am
AbCarter
A little additional information: the sort of tags you are allowed to use and the document formats FFnet accepts.

In the document manager a list is given of which tags (when html coding your document) FFnet allows. Those are for linebreak (starts the next word on a new line), bold, italics, underline, horizontal line (to indicate a transition of scene), and paragraph. (code (between the pointy brackets): br, b, i, u, hr, and p). [html code is easy enough to learn. Upload a document, and go to edit. Look at what Ffnet does to your document under the html tab].

To avoid ffnet bunching all your text together you should put a blank line between paragraphs (hit enter twice) or use a "hard" enter (press shift+enter).

I remember that a while back ffnet had a little trouble with word docs. It may have caused the layout problems you had. That problem should be fixed now.

For Mac you can use any program that can save documents in the formats that FFnet allows for uploading:

# + OpenOffice (.sxw, .odt)

# + NeoOffice (.sxw)

# + Microsoft Word (.doc, .docx)

# + WinWord, WordPad (.rtf)

# + StarOffice (.sdw)

# + WordPerfect (.wp, .wpd)

# * HTML (.htm, .html)

# * Plain Text, NotePad (.txt)

There is a link to NeoOffice for Mac on the frontpage of FFnet. There is Microsoft Word for Mac, but you have to pay for that. Besides, NeoOffice can save documents in Word format if you want. So can the AppleWorks program you probably already have on your Mac.

#2 Aug 15th 2007, 6:23am
Loridhhp
Hi. I'm new to fanfiction.net. I am having a problem getting my story to post. I managed to upload my Word document into the documents but when I click on stories, nothing appears. I went into new stories, signed the guidelines and clicked "new story" again. Every time I click on the "select a category" bar I keep getting "a pop up window has been blocked" notice. I disabled pop up and did everthing I could think of but I still can't continue the process of getting my story posted. I also see notices on the bottom "Done, but with errors on page" and "javascript:void". I am not the most proficient on computers and this is driving me crazy. Can someone please help me so I can get my story to post? I really like the instructions on this thread. It'll help me in the future when I finally have my story posted and am ready to upload a new chapter. Thanks.
#3 Sep 01st 2007, 1:37am
AbCarter
Did you get this error message when you uploaded the document? Then you have to check whether the document is okay. Go to document and click on the edit link for the document. If it doesn't look okay, you have to upload it again. This sometimes happens. I've noticed that I sometimes got error messages when I tried to upload a document that was opened on my computer.

When selecting a category FFnet wants to open a new window. Make sure you allow pop ups (or rather this particular pop up 'cause FFnet ocassionally tries something new and annoying advertisment wise). Once you've selected a category and the particular fandom in which you want to post your story, FFnet closes the pop up and you get a form in which you can fill out all the particulars of the story, such as title, summary and rating.

I've just tested the story posting part and that seemed to work fine.

Good luck.

#4 Sep 01st 2007, 4:25am
Loridhhp
It took me a few times to upload the document because it wouldn't go through. On the third time, I finally saw the document in the document manager. I checked it, edited it and saved the changes. Turning off pop up blocker allows pop ups correct? Cause that's what I did through the tool bar as well as in my security. I still can't get past the pop up on FF.net to select a category and continue filling out the summary, ratings etc. Am I still doing something wrong?
#5 Sep 01st 2007, 9:04pm
AbCarter
Pop up blocker should allow pop ups. I don't use Internet Explorer myself, so I don't know if the problem is related to that. Perhaps you have to download another webbrowser.
#6 Sep 02nd 2007, 1:18am
Loridhhp
After trying everything, I uploaded Firefox and tried again. This time I was able to finish posting my story! Finally. Thanks for the help. It must have been a glitch with internet explorer. Now I can continue writing.
#7 Sep 03rd 2007, 12:27am
DancesWithCorpses
I have 2 questions. The first is automatic doublespacing. For example i want my name directly under the title with no space in between.

Title

by author

but what i end up with is

Title

by author

how do i fix that?

My other question is, why won't it let me use the character @ in the story? If it matters, i use microsoft word

#8 Sep 06th 2007, 11:55pm
AbCarter
I'm surprised you didn't end up with:

Title by author

FFnet bunches everything together if you don't double space. So if you want a single space you should hold the shift key while hitting the enter key. This will leave you with a line break that FFnet recognizes.

No, you can't do @ in a story. FFnet strips e-mail addresses from stories (to avoid spam and stuff). Contacting the author can be done through the profile. There is no other reason to have an @ in the story. If you are using it because one character tells another character an e-mail address you can write out the @ the way you would say it yourself (I doubt there is a sound for @). So: thisperson at thatdomain dot com

#9 Sep 07th 2007, 2:01am
sapphiresama12
Hi. Do we put in HTML tags in the story or what do we do to get HTML?
#10 Sep 25th 2007, 5:20pm
AbCarter
You can use html tags when you use the html editor. In the second post it is explained which html tags you can use. It's just basics text formating stuff. You do not get to put links in the story.
#11 Sep 25th 2007, 10:14pm
sapphiresama12
What I mean was, say I edited a story in word-pad and then I used italics. Could I use the editor in it or do I have to use <i>Words and text</i> ?
#12 Sep 26th 2007, 1:27pm
AbCarter
I think you can use the editor. I don't use wordpad myself, but if FFnet accepts its document formats you should be alright.
#13 Sep 26th 2007, 11:36pm
LizWolf666
Ok,my weak and febble mind can't comprehend what you were trying to say about how to upload new stories so if you could explain it differantly that would be great.
#14 Sep 29th 2007, 8:58am
Y.BakuraY.Malik fan
Hi I am an author from ff.net and it seems that there is a life expectancy on one of my recent document chapters. How do I get it go away without it erasing anything? I don't want to lose my document. I am sick of clicking on preview and updating to make the life expectancy on document manager stay longer. Is there some other way to keep my document from being temporarily?
#15 Oct 07th 2007, 3:13pm
Rhea Silverkeys
The document is just like a draft before you post the story on the site. Once you've posted the story on, you don't need the document in the document manager anymore as the story is already online on the site. If you delete the document, your story will not get deleted as well - no change will be made to your posted story.
#16 Oct 07th 2007, 3:50pm
Leslie A. Smith
Okay, I have a question that is sort of down the same lines of the four topics discussed here. I didn’t see a thread open for this topic so I thought I would ask it here. Sorry if this is in the wrong thread. My question is this: after I have uploaded a document and added the chapter(s) to the story can I delete the file(s) out of the document area since they are already posted in the story? Or do I have to keep them in there for them to show up? I have a ton of documents and they are all unorganized and messy so I was just curious if I could delete them and clean up a bit. Thanks for your time and again sorry if this is in the wrong place.

edit: Never mind to the previous question, hahaha, helps if I read all of the posts in this thread! Sorry for the double posting, I just wanted to let you know that I didn't need help anymore. Thanks anyways guys and gals!

-Leslie

#17 Oct 26th 2007, 7:58am . Edited by AbCarter, Oct 26th 2007, 2:25pm
UhHuhWhat
I'm having some troubling with my story. I followed the directions three times. It looks like my story has been posted. It is listed under Stories in my account. It is not, however, posted on the website. Basically, I can see it and it looks fine, but no one else can see it.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

#18 Oct 30th 2007, 7:34pm
Rowena DeVandal
It can sometimes take several hours for your story to appear in the story listing, because this site can be very slow at times. So don't worry, it'll show up eventually...:)
#19 Oct 31st 2007, 12:45am
AbCarter
More peculiar: sometimes a story doesn't show up in the default K through T list, but it does show up when you select to see stories of all ratings or just the stories with the rating your story has. It is weird, but it happens.
#20 Oct 31st 2007, 2:26am
UhHuhWhat
Thanks! You were right - it just wasn't showing up with the default K-M search.

Is there any way to stop or prevent that?

#21 Oct 31st 2007, 7:34pm
AbCarter
Nope. I think the reason for this glitch is that FFnet uses many servers to store its data on and not all those servers are updated at the same time. As a result, sometimes you see your story sometimes you don't. But usually it doesn't take that long (as in more than an hour) for all the servers to have been updated.

So, uhm, patience little grasshopper.

#22 Nov 01st 2007, 2:30am
StrawberryLoverboy
um i have a question.

i have a story (chapter one only so far)

that I was hoping to get reviews for and i was thinking "hmm, FF.net might be a good place to look." but FF.net is for fanfictions so i was wondering if theres a section for original stories/prose. (excuse me if this is the wrong place i havent been here for to long)

#23 Nov 02nd 2007, 3:35pm . Edited Nov 02nd 2007, 3:38pm
LyokoWarrior12
How long does it take for a story to get online?? Like, I just submitted a story and I don't know how long it will take.

EDIT: Nevermind.

#24 Nov 02nd 2007, 6:37pm . Edited by AbCarter, Nov 03rd 2007, 2:05am
Sessysladyofthewest
For some reason I follwed your steps and it still won't let me down load my story. I wrote it in word documents, now do I have to move it to another spot. Please tell me step by step. By the way if you haven't guessed I'm new. Thank you for all your help.
#25 Nov 02nd 2007, 10:28pm
AbCarter
If you follow the step by step it should work. Though, yesterday I was experiencing some problems reaching FFnet, so that could have been your problem too. Another option is that you still had the document opened in word when you tried to upload. I've experienced uploading difficulties over that as well. Close the document before you try to upload it, and follow the step by step.

Hope that helps. If it didn't, could you be more specific about what kind of problem you run into. For instance: do you get an error message?

#26 Nov 03rd 2007, 2:04am
dartigen
Query: Attempting to make a minor alteration to my summary (hyphenating a word that I forgot to). Am being told that no change is summary is detected. Does it count hyphens? Or am I going to have to redo my summary?
#27 Nov 03rd 2007, 5:30am . Edited Nov 03rd 2007, 5:32am
AbCarter
I don't think hyphens are accepted in summaries. At least they aren't in titles. In the A-Team section there are quite a few titles that are missing a hyphen, and that can't be because all those people happen to be incapable of proper typing.
#28 Nov 03rd 2007, 2:36pm
BigBangMeteor8612
I did everything it said and stuff, it even said that my story was posted. So then why hasn't it shown up? Does it take a while for it to load or something?
#29 Nov 04th 2007, 12:15pm
dartigen
I don't think hyphens are accepted in summaries. At least they aren't in titles. In the A-Team section there are quite a few titles that are missing a hyphen, and that can't be because all those people happen to be incapable of proper typing.

Argh. But fast-forward has ALWAYS been hyphenated, and I refuse to use a space instead of a hyphen!

#30 Nov 04th 2007, 11:17pm
AbCarter
Fear not, there are ways around this. You must use ascii codes in stead. And if I remember correctly, it may also work to copy-paste the symbol you need from the "character map" program Windows has.

And yes, it may take a while for a story to show up.

#31 Nov 05th 2007, 5:23am
Winter Skye
Wikipedia has the answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndash#Common_dashes

I use & ndash; all the time in my fics, but I've never tried putting one in the summary.

And this HTML 4.0 Character Entity Reference shows how the named and decimal character references look in one's browser

http://www.alanwood.net/demos/ent4_frame.html

#32 Nov 05th 2007, 11:49am . Edited Nov 05th 2007, 11:57am
VanessaGalore
I have found this topic invaluable; thanks for the clear and concise directions. I am wondering about the "life" of documents. The link says "After 30 days, stale documents will be removed." Does this mean the story that is created from these documents is also removed? Does something need to be done to keep your story alive after 30 days??
#33 Nov 05th 2007, 12:26pm
Rhea Silverkeys
Nope, those documents only refer to the ones in document manager. Your story will continue to stay on the site indefinitely - stories only get removed if you go to the 'Stories' section and click 'Delete' (and ff.net gives you warning about whether you're sure you want to do that, so no worries on accidentally deleting a story unless you're really, really blur).
#34 Nov 12th 2007, 3:04pm
Blu Rai
Thanks for the info! I'm usually good with computers, but I'm having a problem...

What is document manager and how do i get to it and use it?

Sorry for being slow! ^^;

#35 Nov 12th 2007, 3:17pm
Rhea Silverkeys
Press the Log In button and on the left side, there's a 'Documents' section. Clicking that brings you to the document manager.
#36 Nov 12th 2007, 4:31pm
BigBangMeteor8612
My story still hasn't shown up! I even added a new chapter! It's been almost 2 weeks!
#37 Nov 16th 2007, 8:13pm
AbCarter
Shown up where? There is one story listed when I go to your profile and that story has two chapters. Harry Potter is a category where a lot of new stories get posted everyday. You may have to go down a few pages before you finally see yours.
#38 Nov 17th 2007, 1:28am
Aleta Thuvis
I have noticed in other author's stories that the Submit Review and Chapter Map shows up at the end of their chapters.

I have a story, that its chapters are not being ended that way. Instead it's "Back to top" which doesn't work when I click on the link.

How do I fix this?

#39 Nov 18th 2007, 2:09pm
Hollefine
Ah, you're probably just previewing your fic, right? If you go to your account url and then click on the story, it will be normal. Don't worry, it's just you that views it like that. :] (Umm, that made sense, right? Just ask if you didn't get what I just said...)
#40 Nov 18th 2007, 2:54pm
AbCarter
It made sense to me. Mostly because a lot of times people paste links in this forum for their story which they copied while looking at the preview. That's not going to work, because your preview is secure; other people can't access it.

What Hollefine said was: if you want to view your story in the same layout as other people's stories you have to access them in the same way. So go to the category where your story is listed, or to your profile page, and click the link to your story. That should show the chapter map and review button at the bottom.

#41 Nov 19th 2007, 12:53am
Takari4ever3012
can someone pls help me? how on earth do you upload the files the Doc Manager?
#42 Nov 21st 2007, 1:54am
cathrl
I don't think I can answer this any more clearly than the first post in this forum does. Just follow the steps through one at a time.
#43 Nov 21st 2007, 4:16am
conchobhar
i posted my story fine but how do i get people to read/give it review. or do i have to just wait?
#44 Nov 25th 2007, 5:17pm
Rowena DeVandal
You pretty much have to wait. There's nothing you can do to make people read it OR review it and threatening to hold it hostage (as in "I won't update unless I get at least five reviews!") if you don't get reviews is considered poor form.

Don't worry, if they like the summary, they'll read it. If they like it enough to review it, they will if they think about it. And if they really like it, they'll add it to their favorites. Patience, grasshopper! :)

#45 Nov 25th 2007, 5:22pm
conchobhar
thx |: ^D
#46 Nov 26th 2007, 5:15am
conchobhar
i have a new ?... if u want to tell people to read your story, where do u tell them to go?
#47 Nov 29th 2007, 2:21pm
Hollefine
if u want to tell people to read your story, where do u tell them to go?

Either tell them your profile url or your story's url. That's the best way I can think of.

#48 Nov 29th 2007, 3:16pm
conchobhar
ok.. but is there somewhere u can go on this site to post the url?
#49 Nov 30th 2007, 2:34pm
Hollefine
You can self-plug your fanfiction in this thread. http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/2872/4863/1/

Hope that helps.

#50 Nov 30th 2007, 4:44pm


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