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Monotonehell
Topic: Petition: Deleting signed reviews

The category here is illegal! Oh noes Rhea's wrath awaits me! But I feel it justified in this case:

Further from the general topic "Deleting signed reviews", this topic is an 'official' petition to gather electronic signatures for the proposition below. This will then be sent to FF.net as a submission from the members of WA.

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From the members of the FanFiction.net forum "Writers Anonymous".

We the undersigned have discussed the problems surrounding the abuse and misuse of the on site review system. For some time a certain element have been using the review system in order to disseminate spam, sustained personal attacks, and general abuse. You have recognised this and allowed users to delete unsigned posts, and report signed ones. However, the ability for people to simply create a new account and continue the attacks means that the quantity of such reported abuse is beyond that which we believe you can deal with in a timely manner.

Allowing users to delete any reviews posted on their stories is also open to some abuse; some users may delete unfavourable reviews and let only positive ones stand. While this is also an undesirable situation, we believe that it is the far lesser of two evils. Additionally those people who do this are not the kind of people that allow constructive criticism to benefit them - so on their heads be it.

For these reasons we request that users be able to delete any reviews that are posted on their own stories. This will solve the abuse in reviews problem, as well as reduce the amount of work that FanFiction.net staff need do.

Signed... list of WA members.

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If you wish your name included in this email please add a "me too" post to this topic. We'll keep this open for a while until enough people have seen it and responded.

Edit: Some people change their usernames often, so could you put down your user ID as well? For those who have already posted, just edit your original post. You can do that by pressing the Mod button on the bottom right of your post, and then 'Edit'.

#1 May 05th, 8:33pm . Edited by Rhea Silverkeys, Jul 01st, 10:08am
shaeldryn

Me, too.

I've been following the discussion and think that a deleting option would have more advantages than disadvantages, therefore I'd like to sign this petition.

EDIT: ID 1385700

#2 May 05th, 9:04pm . Edited May 21st, 6:29am
Oracle Five

"Me, too."

#3 May 06th, 7:35am
ExtremeWriter

"Me, too."

#4 May 06th, 7:52am
SMARTALIENQT

Me, too.

#5 May 06th, 2:50pm
Aislynn Crowdaughter

Me, too.

#6 May 06th, 3:31pm
Neuroleptic

While I know that this proposed idea has some potentual to be abused I gotta say . . .

ME TOO.

Sighn me up. My wife posted several stories, well written, no spelling problems or anything. And some guy flamed her story because he didn't like the pairing. She promptly removed all of her work from the site and has vowed never to return because that was her first impression of the community on the site. She still writes, but she posts other places instead. After some of the things I'v seen people say about other people's work (especialy people who didn't deserve it) I have been tempted to leave a few times myself.

#7 May 06th, 6:22pm
Venomous Woe

Sign me up as well. :)

#8 May 06th, 6:31pm
White-Eyebrow

Me too

#9 May 06th, 9:12pm . Edited May 06th, 9:13pm
Rowena DeVandal

Me too

#10 May 06th, 10:52pm
Rhea Silverkeys

Michael2, is that a vote for or against the petition?

"Me, too." Well, it's a given since I'll be sending the petition off but I'll say it anyway ^_^

#11 May 07th, 6:03am
Michael2

Yes, it is a vote for the petition.

Michael

#12 May 07th, 8:15am
silver chipmunk

Me too.

Wow, this is totally not a problem in my one little fandom, I had no idea this was going on til I read the thread

edited to add my member number: 903421

#13 May 07th, 7:53pm . Edited May 21st, 5:41pm
Silver-hair Angel

Me too.

Writers should have more options.

#14 May 08th, 2:53pm
Maiafay

You would have thought I'd noticed this sooner, lol.

Me too.

User ID: 751361

#15 May 08th, 3:01pm . Edited May 21st, 4:20am
Irindiglo2Parodise

LoL this same topic is in the Warzone with signatures already! If you want a petition. I even send it to Xing once... maybe he complied and compromised by setting up the abuse button...

But there are more abuses like cloning accounts. Though that can be solved if authors actually contact the account holder and don't automatically assume it's the other user that looks like it.

#16 May 08th, 3:03pm . Edited May 08th, 3:05pm
Thranduil Oropherion Redux

Me too.

However, I do this sadly, and only because the admins have been to slow in removing reported obscene spam reviews lately. If they will not take out the trash, they must give us the option of doing so ourselves.

That said, fewer people will now be motivated to give a thoughtful review knowing that it may all be for naught.

#17 May 08th, 3:10pm
We'll Run For Our Lives

Me too.

#18 May 08th, 3:34pm
Rasler-Heios-Nabradia

Signed.

#19 May 08th, 3:39pm
Zokolov

While I would certainly hate the fact that somebody would delete a review I would write with much thought, I'm still going to say

Me Too

Because I think it still be good to delete spam once and for all. I just hope no one posts with sockpuppets on this one...

ID Number: 1178674 (I just got the chance of re-reading the first post)

#20 May 09th, 11:07am . Edited Jul 06th, 12:27pm
IgnobleBard

I thought this should always have been an option for the simple fact that if people are interested in improving their writing they can contact the reviewer and leave the review up for others to see. On the other hand if a writer wants to live in denial and trash anything that even hints at a critique because of ego, immaturity, or any number of other reasons, that should be their choice as well. And people who say they are "just trying to be helpful" and then go whining to *their* buds because a writer didn't take their wonderful and oh-so-well-intentioned advice were, perhaps, not so well intentioned after all.

In short, deleting spam or snark or anything you don't like off a board designed to give feedback on your story and not on your parentage should now be and should always have been an option.

#21 May 09th, 5:25pm
Chiwizard

Me, too.

I haven't had this problem myself, but I can definitely sympathize with the ones who need this kind of system availiable.

#22 May 09th, 6:58pm
Nieriel Raina

I've been saying this for months.

Me Too

#23 May 09th, 7:31pm
protejerinnocencia

Me too.

Add me to the list.

#24 May 10th, 2:19pm
Laburnum Steelfang

Thank God there's something like this finally happening. The Redwall section is full of obscene reviews, and since a lot of the readers there are young teens we really need to get rid of the things. I hereby sign too.

~L.S., ID 342558

#25 May 13th, 1:57pm . Edited May 25th, 1:27pm
Ansela Jonla

Add me to the list as well, please.

#26 May 13th, 2:03pm
Agent Tomato

Me, too. This has gone on long enough.

#27 May 13th, 2:08pm
Haldir's-angel

Add me too. It's just gotten out of hand, I think.

#28 May 13th, 2:26pm
fifimaxi

About time! Add me to the list!

#29 May 13th, 2:27pm
Emerald Riddle
Me too!
#30 May 13th, 2:30pm
Sumiregawa Nenene

Me too!

#31 May 13th, 3:00pm
cmar

Me too, with considerable regret. If reporting reviews actually worked, this shouldn't be necessary.

#32 May 13th, 3:02pm
Picklesticks

Me too!

#33 May 13th, 3:03pm
Mollyscribbles

"Me, too!"

And it'd be nice if mod powers could be granted to some users, to help clear out the non-stories and other junk that gets posted in some sections (I weep over the current state of the Fables section). There could be a rule that several trusted mods must agree on a deletion before it could go through to cut back on abuse . . . still a risk, but it's better than reporting something and then being ignored for a year.

#34 May 13th, 3:09pm
Sedri

I agree; I haven't had any such problems myself, but if the moderators are, for whatever reason, unable to handle the sheer mass of work, then anything that can be given to individual authors should be.

#35 May 13th, 3:13pm
Alohilani

I hereby sign.

#36 May 13th, 3:17pm
RainneCassidy

ME TOO. And how.

#37 May 13th, 3:51pm
Ayla Hermione

Me too.

The spamming and other problems are ridiculous.

#38 May 13th, 3:54pm
ChristineX

Me, too. Luckily I've never been a victim of this sort of thing, but I have friends who have been. This is the most logical solution.

#39 May 13th, 4:07pm
Bubonic Woodchuck

Me too.

#40 May 13th, 4:10pm
SMARTALIENQT

I think that this thread speaks for all of us: http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/45333/6151340/1/.

#41 May 13th, 4:12pm
Esther-Channah

Signed!

#42 May 13th, 4:27pm
Jezebel Parks

I'm in full support of this. *signs*

#43 May 13th, 4:35pm
Zerrat

Signed (from FFrants)

#44 May 13th, 4:40pm
Invaders Say Ni

Me too.

#45 May 13th, 4:50pm
Shining Nova

I don't post on other peep's forums, but it's for a good cause. :) Me too.

#46 May 13th, 5:17pm
Schweinsty

Me too :). Reviewspam is a pain to deal with, signed or not.

#47 May 13th, 6:08pm
Fire Nerbil

Nir here, supporting your topic! Hey-ho! ^-^/

#48 May 13th, 6:08pm
Writer's Grove

Me too!

#49 May 13th, 6:38pm
Conna Stevenson

Me too!

#50 May 13th, 7:11pm


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