Title: "never ever again" Summary: "ok this is still from something borrowed i wanted Ianto to go give jack hell when this happen that ** of a clerk i wanted Ianto smack him. hope you like this," Rating: "Rated: T" Main reason for removal: Title/Summary not Fiction G rated and not suitable for all audience. The above story has been removed because it violated the guideline detailed on the upload page. This infraction has been recorded and as a result, you will not have story submission ability for a few days. FanFiction.Net has a set of guidelines for the uploading of stories and chapters.

how can i get this fix and how can i repost?? any one and how long is a few days???

how can i get this fix

By not breaking any rules on FFN.

And you can't repost this. Not in the current state, at least. It'll just be removed for the same reasons and your ban will be longer, if not permanent.

You should check the submit story part of the login area to see when the ban times out.

but i am not sure what i did. is it because of the rating????

You should categorise this thread to avoid it being locked, as per rules of this forum.

As for the rating, you used foul language in the summary. The summary has to be completely free of all swearing, violence, sex themes etc, acceptable to a child of five.

Looking at your stories, I would not be surprised if someone bothered to report more and this is just the first email in a series. FFN forbids posting stories rated MA/X. An M-rated story is for ages 16 and up, not 18 and up. You advertise X ratings in other summaries. This can be considered baiting. And here's what the admin says about misrating:

Please note that FanFiction.Net has a zero tolerance policy against mis-rating of stories. Accounts will be closed upon abuse confirmation.

Change your summary to not be offensive to others. Summaries should have NO cursing in it. Also, if it needs to be rated M for content then do so rather than rating it T. If it is based on real people then change the names so that it is FICTION. Without reading the post itself it is hard to say exactly what is wrong with the story but this should get you started. Read ALL of the rules for the site to make sure that you do not violate them.

sooo if i go and change ratings and get curse words out of the summaries i should be ok???

thank you both by the way.... i love this site ..

ohh and i will take the time now to go over all my stories and make the changes again i did not mean to offend any one

again thank you both for your help.

Well, as many stories as you have posted I'm surprised that you don't have the hang the hang of the rating system yet. I opened one of your stories to see just what kind it was and I can't say that I was impressed but I'm sure others are. Still, as was said above, I'm surprised that no one else has reported any other stories for content so I'd take it as a warning. I can't say how long a few days for FF is before they lift their ban so I'd try in about a week. In the mean-time, become familiar with the difference between the ratings of T, M, MA, and X. MA and X are not allowed on this site.

I've just had two of my stories removed 0.o

Urgh! And one of them had lots of reviewsfavourites as welll and I don't have the document anymore D:

Always keep a copy of your documents, unless you don't mind loosing them. I keep copies of all my drafts, even.

Did you get an explanation of why they were removed?

They were both written on another computer which crashed so I don't have them. Didn't have a memory stick at the time which sucked.

Yeah just kept saying not suitable for audience even tho I clearly put the rating as M.

I had the fanfic up for like nearly two years as well....

ok i have just went alll over my stories and changed the ratings...

i hope this is ok.... again i love this site.. and love posting on it

again if i offend any one i didn't mean to.....

Then your story really belonged to a higher rating than M, which is not allowed on this site. M is for 16 years and up, so there are restrictions on M-ratings. If you want to write MA-rated stories, you have to find another site for it.

You might be able to recover your story from a way-back machine or something. I remember that when the company we bought our homepages from at work, went bankrupt and the site went down, I was able to recover some of the content by googleing for it, and opening the results cached. No images were retained, but I did manage to copypaste the text to a document.

The mods don't hunt down stories to delete, so someone must have reported it as having the wrong rating, and the adm agreed. That explains why you were able to have it up for so long.

edit: this was meant for ServeusHermione

Seeing so many stories being struck down makes me uncomfortable about my own work. If it takes an actual complaint from a real reader, I feel reasonably safe. But perhaps someone can shed some light on why a reader would read a lengthy story, and then complain to the site mods about the rating -- completely bypassing the writer?

I don't think they have to read the whole story to determine that the rating doesn't fit the story.

If I ever came across story where they rating didn't fit, I reviewed or PM'ed the author. But I can understand why people don't. Not all authors are nice about getting the site rules pointed out to them. Then it just feels good to hit the abuse button. It's not often you hear about that amounting to anything.

I don't know whether FFnet checks the abuse reports. It's quite possible to make a false abuse report. And if FFnet is working on their backlog, they might be quick in decided whether an abuse report is valid. What is quite clear that they don't is contact the author and give them a warning before deleting a story. But then, authors should have read the guidelines. They should have known what was coming their way.

Considering how many times I've seen the discussion on here about what makes a story M rated vs T or MA, I think it's safe to say that some is open to interpretation.

My own stories have adult scenes in them, but they usually come deep into the story, and are a logical part of the plot. I do take care not to use certain words or language in them, and write more about the emotions than the biology of the encounter. But still someone could take offense. I would just hope that they would send me a message before hitting that report abuse button.

But perhaps someone can shed some light on why a reader would read a lengthy story, and then complain to the site mods about the rating -- completely bypassing the writer?

Because they can? Really, can be a jealous colleague or someone, who didn't like a description of their favourite character. I will often report a story if someone asks me to, provided the petition is valid. I don't care about the petitioner's reasons. If it breaks the rules, it does not belong. It is the sole responsibility of the writer to post proper content. I would just hope that they would send me a message before hitting that report abuse button.

While it would be the charitable thing to do, the writer affected by the abuse report could have considered the rules in the first place. Why reward ignorance, especially if the offence is serial or the author has any traffic simply because they ignore the rules? I always say that if a reader cares about the story, he or she should warn the writer before a crisis strikes. Once an abuse report is sent, there is no going back.

I don't know whether FFnet checks the abuse reports.

I can safely say that they do. Or my stories, as well as everything written by some of my acquaintances would have been long gone. When you get serial threats like 'leave the site or i'll report u', you have to trust the system to work.

And if FFnet is working on their backlog, they might be quick in decided whether an abuse report is valid.

So, what we are witnessing now is a purge. I was notified that tons of fics have been deleted in the past 24 hours. Purges happen from time to time. Basically, any story that is reported during a purge will undoubtedly be assessed by the admin. This is not a suggestion, mind you.

Considering how many times I've seen the discussion on here about what makes a story M rated vs T or MA, I think it's safe to say that some is open to interpretation.

Interpretation? It's my POV against your POV till the admin steps in. After that, there is no interpretation. I would highly discourage the it's subjective kind of response to rating queries. Any subjectivity is up for the admin to decide and you really don't want to give the fate of your account to chance.

What is quite clear that they don't is contact the author and give them a warning before deleting a story.

That is the default treatment, yes. You can get a warning, but you are not entitled to. I've seen some writers get warnings with a time frame to fix their stories. However, it should be noted that the conditions were extraordinary.

It seems to me that if they're going to go so far as to delete a story, they should at least give a reason. I just checked out a poem that was deleted, and I'm at a loss to explain why it was targeted. Are poems allowed here? My only guess is that to me it looked less like a poem and more like a story that didn't follow proper grammar and sentence structure -- but that's only a guess.

I understand that you trust the rules and the rating system Lord Kelvin, but I do not. There is too much ambiguity where this is concerned, and no one can say definitively what makes a story an M vs a T or MA. A lot of people have given guidelines they themselves use, but the site mods are quiet on the matter. How does one follow the rules when the rules are not clearly outlined?

Sooo, what's a writer to think, if their story is deleted, and they were not given a warning or even a reason? If it were me, I'd have to wonder if a troll was at work. It seems there's a wee bit too much power in that "report abuse" button.

welll i am going to take my punishment for what i did... and will not do it again in the future.. and again its only till friday...

besides i don't have any chaps ready to post any way... lool

There is too much ambiguity where this is concerned, and no one can say definitively what makes a story an M vs a T or MA.

The button does say 'report possible abuse'. If I am not sure that the rating is correct, I will ask an expert mediator. This will solve any dispute. In general, I find the ambiguity argument too wordy for its own good. A writer is supposed to be reasonable and if there is doubt over the rating, maybe the rating should be higher, or posted on a site restricted to adults? Leaving it to chance is simply poor management. And I don't exactly see flocks of innocent people believing their story should be rated T while it is an obvious MA. Most of the time, it is an attempt to grab more audience, disregarding the risks.

'Well, hmm, it's sort of on the limit, but it should be all right.'

That has red alert all over. The internet is full of research material you can easily digest if you need industry advice on ratings. Frankly, I once rated a story much higher than the content warranted because the topic was complicated. Perhaps, this is a loss of random passersby that don't filter ratings and the ones looking for sexual content or violence would be disappointed, but it reduces the number of confused-sounding reviews.

Sooo, what's a writer to think, if their story is deleted, and they were not given a warning or even a reason?

As you saw from the generic email in the first post, the reason is clearly marked. In this case, summary not G rated. In case of the content rating, it will be violence, language or adult content. Easy to work from there. My belief is that you know what you're running up against when you push the limits of a rating. FFN is a site for teens, inhabited mainly by teens. At times, a story is a question of audience as well as content. Perhaps, your readers are on another site?

I know Xing tried to 'simplify' the rating process, and I've dabbled into the topic as well. The really hard part is to decide whether a story is K or K, not M or MA. And this is where I've found the admins to be most understanding. I read some studies on offensiveness of certain words and actions. Pretty fascinating stuff, and it helps you rate a story.

It seems there's a wee bit too much power in that "report abuse" button.

Surely, some people would prefer signed-only reports, with the report reaching the writer before the admin, the ability to discuss the problem with the reporting party and maybe even barring people on the block list from reporting altogether. Reports are forever. Pretty much like signed reviews. The beauty of the system is that you can make both disappear by deleting the story.

To: SeverusHermioneForever

If you had favorites/reviews, it's possible some of your fans might have liked the story enough to make a copy of it. You might want to put up some "ads" in your profile, perhaps some requests on communities dealing with Harry Potter (which is what I assume you write due to your penname), things like that. You never know; I have copies of my favorite fics on both my computer and my backup...in three different formats. XD

"FFN is a site for teens, inhabited mainly by teens." Really? I didn't see that anywhere when I made up my account. If this site is for teens, then someone should tell all of us adults that we don't belong here.

If I understand it right, the difference between M and MA is two years (16 to 18), so I really think this should be taken into account before a story is deleted based on ratings. You won't get any argument from me if it's K - T, but M does imply a little more maturity. I sincerely doubt that anything I've written in my M rated stories would harm a sixteen or seventeen year-old, and I say this having raised two kids, who are sixteen and twenty years old.

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