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lemony.pTopic: World Confusion A forum to help writers keep to the original world content of GW and SM. A place for questions and answers.| #1 Jan 16th 2006, 9:30am . Edited Jan 16th 2006, 9:38am | |
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ShadowSonic1By "World Confusion" do you mean, trying to keep the worlds in the two fictional universes seperate? Or is this a place to answer questions about things in the two worlds?My own idea for seperating the two is thus: GW and SM are in the same timeline, just in differant time periods. In the original Gundam series (Universal Calender timeline) the colony period began in 2080, meaning 2080 would be the same time the GW colony period began too. So AC 1 and 2080 AD are one in the same, and this means GW took place in 2275 (2080 + 195) and EW happens a year later (AC 196/2276 AD - AC 197/2277 AD). So it can happen before the deep freeze Earth went under before the Neo-Queen awoke the planet and established Crystal Tokyo. | #2 Jan 16th 2006, 12:20pm | |
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lemony.pWow, you have really calculated something here! I never thought about that. So you think that GW took place before Crystal Tokyo. thanks for the info because I got the wrong timing in my next story. To tell you the truth, I have never seen even one episode of GW, i got acquainted with it through the fanfics i read on this site and practically all of them are mixed up when it comes to the two worlds. By world confusion I mean to keep the worlds "separate" in their facts. So here is my question and i would be grateful if you could answer it for me: People lived on peaceful colonies and etc, I got that. But can normal people easily travel from the colonies to Earth? If they can, then by what do they get there? And could you name me 4 colonies? And is Earth a total battlefield or is it sort of normal too, for expl. Children got to school, to the movies, car racing, etc.? If you answer these questions I am going to be really grateful because I can't start writing my fic until I get the GW world straightened out. |
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ShadowSonic1Yeah, there are five points in Earth's orbit (the 5 Lagrange points) that are stable enough to house Space Colonies, whihc are really city sized Space Stations. Each Cluster houses dozens if not hundreds of Space Colonies.Originally, people could travel easily between Earth and the Space Colonies, using Commercial space shuttles launched from Earth. Then when the Earth Sphere Alliance took over they put up space mines to limit contact between colonies to keep them weak and controllable. But when OZ took over they took down the mines, so now the colonies were free to do whatever they wanted. They never got around to naming the colonies in GW, the only one I think named was the Incomplete X/1999 or whatever it was called in Endless Waltz. In the original Gundam series (In the UC timeline) each colony had a regualr name, like Londinium, Sweetwar, Zum, etc. They also turned asteroids into cities or military fortresses by attaching rocket thrusters and hollowing out the rocks, like the resource satellites we saw in GW, and the automated space factory (Volcanus, I think it was called) in the GW Manga "Battlefield of Pacifists". So it guess it's okay to make up names for colonies in your fic. Earth was at war for a while, before GW, but it wasn't total war all the time. It's somewhat regular after Endless Waltz. The Moon was colonized in GW as well, but since the gravity wasn't as good as Earth or teh colonies they turned it into a giant factory zone and tourist stop. In the original Gundams eries there were lots of major space corporations based on the Moon, and underground big cities too (they got the gravity thing solved in UC, but not in AC). So maybe you can have major cities just being built or opened. Mars is now just beginning to be colonized by Earth, though they've developed ships capable of interplanetary transport (able to go to Mars and Venus, not sure about elsewhere). That's about it, byt the way, if this fic is after EW then they don't use Mobile Suits as weapons anymore, just for work/laboring. The G-Boys joined the government's Preventor organization as peacekeeper agents but they fight more like James Bond now. Well, I'm not sure about them all being Preventor's, I think Wufei and Zechs are the only G-Pilots officially in it, Trowa, Quatre and Duo seem to be part-timers and Heero just disappears and reappears as he pleases. |
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lemony.pThanks, now let me see if I got this right:The OZ took over and people can travel freely from colonies to Earth. They still use mobile suits and Earth is at war but are able to live normaly at some periods of time, and all of this is before Endless Waltz? and yay i get to make up names for the colonies! Oh and at this particular time the OZ are the enemies of the G-boys? I posted Chapter 1 to It Can Be (the new story I am getting the info for) and I would like it if you read and pointed out all of the stuff i got wrong about the GW world. It's short, I guess its more like an Intro. thanks again! | #5 Jan 17th 2006, 10:09am | |
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ShadowSonic1If your fic is after episode 1-8, then OZ is the enemy, but it's importnat to watch the series first since the G-Boys weren't a single team throughout the show and operated either in 2-man groups (not intentionally) or independantly.I'll read and give a list of mistakes (if there are any). | #6 Jan 17th 2006, 10:53am | |
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ShadowSonic1Alright, so far from I can tell these are the "errors":- You haven't specified when this was happening, after what events. The show wasn't a static series with a status quo always unchanged after each episode, every episode had the chars going somewhere or doing somrthing. - The G-Boys hardly ever were one single together group in the show, having all five rooming together is a big plot hole becuase that never happened. |
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lemony.pI am not planning on exactly specifying in the story when this happened for a reason, so thats okay. So, they don't room together. Ok, then why the hell do people always write fanfics with them rooming together! Grr...this gets me confused. So they live seperately, where? Just take any time line, and tell me where they lived and what they did at that specific time. I guess, I have to re-write it. thank you! |
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ShadowSonic1People write them together because they're lousy writers ;).Anyways, befroe episode 10 Heero and Duo were students at some boarding school (they weren't roomies though), they don't say where. Trowa was with a traveling Circus, Wufei was always on the move somewhere in Asia and Quatre was in the Middle East hanging with those Arabian guards he had. After episode ten Duo and Quatre escaped to one of Quatre's Earth resorts (in Singapore, I think...) and had to go their seperate ways from the Arabian guys (they rejoined later on in the series). Heero and Trowa were travelling around Europe and Wufei was still in China somewhere. After episode 19 they all went back to space and their seperate ways. Trowa infiltrated OZ as a soldier and captured Heero, who was then put to work as a guinea pig for new Mobile Suits. Duo was captured by OZ when he got to space but Heero rescued him and left him to stay at his apartment he rented (before he was caught by Trowa). Wufei has hiding somewhere but was eventually caught and taken to the same Lunar base prison as Heero and Trowa. Quatre was found and taken back to his home colony. Duo also got caught. Quatre went nuts for awhile because OZ assassinated his father, found Wing Zero's blueprints and built it, using its power to destroy colonies. Heero and Trowa went to stop him but got their butts kicked. Trowa apparently died and Heero defeated Quatre eventually and took him to custody. Duo and Wufei escaped the Moon base, got new Gundams and left. Duo went to work as a scrap dealer (as a cover) and Wufei went to his home colony. Quatre and Heero escaped, blew up the moon base lab, left Wing Zero behind and crashed on Earth. They eventually found their way to Sanq Kingdom ruled by Relena. There they fought for her until the Kingdom was conquered. Quatre and the remaining defenders left for space as Earth was now totally under OZ control while Heero stayed behind. Trowa was alive, but with amnesia and was found again by his circus buddies. Duo found him and told Quatre when they met up again, Heero ended up in space again as well. Wufei's colony was destroyed (they blew themselves up to distract the enemy from getting Wufei) and he went nuts for a while too. Then they 5 guys all were assembled together again, Heero used the Zero system in Wing Zero to give Trowa his memories back and to make Wufei less insane. Then they were all together on the Peacemillion battle-carrier ship for the rest of the series. They all went their seperate ways again until EW (Trowa at the circus, Duo a scrap dealer, Quatre rans the family business, Heero and Wufei vanished into the shadows) and after that I think they all became part-time and full-time Preventors. |
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ShadowSonic1Anymore problems or questions you need answered?| #10 Jan 27th 2006, 2:29pm | |
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Silver Winged DragonEhm... to correct a slight mistake...Heero became the bodyguard of Relena afterwards. Wufei and Sally became fulltime preventers. Noin and Zechs went on with their lives somewhere on mars terraforming with Relena...to be precize... but this depends on one small thing: are you talking about Gundam Wing or Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz? and my english sucks... sorry! | #11 Jun 04th 2006, 11:10am | |
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OmnicatJust before Endless Waltz Duo was living with Hilde, magaging their scrapyard. He went back to her afterwards.Quatre was probably running his family's business, which would mean L4 colony cluster as home base and a lot of traveling. He is seen among a group of Maganacs (the Arabian bodyguard guys) at a construction site at the end of EW. Trowa was at the circus with Catherine before and after EW. The first time we meet Wufei in EW, is when he showed up in Mariemeia's army out of I don't know where, and joined Sally as a full-time Preventor after EW. The manga would indicate that he was in China or something before EW, and doing all kinds of stuff in space, but you can basically fill his year between the end of the series and the beginning of EW in as you please, because the manga are often considered unofficial. Heero... was somewhere. And afterwards, he went somewhere too. He simply comes and goes as he pleases. One version of EW hints at the possibility that he stayed near Relena to 'guard her from the shadows', though. Noin and Zechs went ot Mars to work on the terraforming project Relena supported. Une was head of Preventors. Treize was dead. Dorothy was on Earth, living her ordinary aristocratic life. | #12 Jun 05th 2006, 3:21pm | |
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SukiHm, this is awesome work. Really helpful. Now no one has an excuse. ^-^| #13 Aug 03rd 2006, 3:00pm | |
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RaistlinofMetallicaAt the end of Endless Waltz (anime), on their way to the terraforming project, Zechs and Noin are shown in Preventers space suits. Perhaps they are assigned there under the Preventers organization.As an aside, it is said that Chibi-Usa comes from the 30th Century Crystal Tokyo. It's never said anywhere, manga or anime BSSM, that Neo Queen Serenity and her family or court are active during the years following her coronation at the age of 22. I can't recall exactly, but I am certain it is mentioned that Chibi Usa is born around or following the time of Usagi's coronation as Neo Queen Serenity and that Chibi Usa is approximately 900 at the time of the Black Moon Crisis. We do know a disaster happened that proceeded a planet-wide purification by Illusion Silver Crystal. If we set Usagi's birthyear to its original (and earliest) assumed value, 1978, she turns 22 in 2000. If the AC conversion follows the year 2080, as assumed in an earlier response in this forum, at least 275 years will have passed between the time of Neo Queen Serenity (Usagi)'s coronation and Operation Meteor. What has Usagi-tachi been up to in the time between then and the Black Moon Crisis? No one knows. | #14 Mar 03rd 2007, 3:02am | |
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ShadowSonic1Perhaps the "when she turned 22" thing can be retconned so that she became Queen when she was 22, but the slowed aging meant she was 22 for a long time (or it's historical revisionism on Crystal Tokyo's side) and she took over as Queen after the Eve Wars and Mariemaia's attack. Perhaps another war happens that devestated Earth and she took over after, or she just presented herself after years of waiting and the newly formed united Earth government allowed her to take over somehow.Maybe that's why there aren't colonies in Crystal Tokyo, they were the renegades who fought against her rule and were bansihed because of it, the colonies being dismantled and used by them to set up a civilization on Nemesis. | #15 Apr 05th 2007, 8:59am | |
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RaistlinofMetallicaHmm... yes, now that last part could be interesting to see as a story on here! Descendants of the Space Colonies as citizens of Nemesis could definately add a very dark, but wonderfully twisted view of the Nemesis conflict.And I see what you mean about the 22 thing, although I do think their visible age has to do a lot with their self-view and emotional maturity, eg: Chibi-Usa not growing any older until she started to emotionally grow up. Perhaps age is merely a reflection of a senshi's ideal self projected by the crystal. Or, paradoxically, since Usagi saw herself having not aged when she travelled to the future, she believed she would not age after that point and the crystal made that true, so thus she was not aged when her past self saw her in the future. (ow, I just gave myself a headache) As for my own works, I have Neo Queen Serenity and her court in a crystal sleep, waiting for the right time, and its a natural disaster that provokes a planet-scale protective reaction from the Silver Crystal, stranding the Mars terraformers and space colonies. What would they do to survive? Could the Mars terraforming project support that many people when it's only been active a little while? And what happens when the Earth recovers? (lol, I already know what I'm doing here but I'm still gonna share cause I'm curious!) Just some food for thought. | #16 Apr 07th 2007, 12:13am | |
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ShadowSonic1One of the more interesting SM/GW fics I read was one where the Senshi tried to have the G-Boys all killed after the Eve Wars and EW, as they saw them as potential rivals for the Government to turn to when the Senshi returned and established Crystal Tokyo, and they wanted no competition.So they had Wufei, Duo and Trowa killed (I think), Quatre was crippled, and Heero managed to escape. It was never continued though. | #17 Apr 15th 2007, 6:49am | |
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