I have a warped mind or so you'll see. Out of the entire show, there are four or five pairings that I like. First two being: Kathryn Janeway/Chakotay and Kathryn Janeway/Tom Paris. The first being the most popular I think and the second following closely. The last three are a little odd: Kathryn Janeway/Seven of Nine, Kathryn Janeway/Harry Kim, and Kathryn Janeway/B'Elanna Torres. These three I could see happening as the show progressed and the command team began to question each other. But sadly, all these pairings are just dreams since the Captain ended up with no one. At least I still have the wonderful world of fanfiction to feed my warped minds hunger!4/14/2007 #1
Which pairings do you like and why?
Kathryn Janeway and Seven of Nine. NOthing ODD about two unrelated adults in love. Kathryn has a sharp mind with a scientific bent. She is very intellegent and would be quickly bored with someone not up to her intellectual par. Seven of Nine is intellegent and has a passion for learning. Seven is also a challenge. She does not recognize the chain of command and would not let Kathryn 'run over her.' It would do Kathryn good to have someone stand toe to toe with her and tell her 'you will fail'. Seven needs someone who is of an equal intellectual capacity as herself. She also needs someone dependable and who will stand by her regardless of the mistakes she makes. Janeway has done this. Rescued her from the Borg Queen even though it looked like it was Seven's choice to go. Hunted Ransom because he had Seven.4/26/2007 #2
Love and passion have been missing in Seven's life since she was assimilated at Six. In fact, Janeway needs it too. Seven would love her and not the aura of the uniform. Seven would not be adverse to trying any new experience and she would make sure she perfected love making. It would add a whole new dimension to Janeway's life. Seven could and would teach her a few things. Kathryn, being a supercharged personality, would wear a man out. After one or two bouts, most men are worthless and only want to roll over and snore while she would want to try the next position in the Risa Sex Position Manuel.
Seven and Kathryn had a spark. No one can make me believe their relationship was that of a mother and daughter. An adult does not watch another adult sleep unless there is underlying feelings of attraction. I know from experience. The only time I have watched an adult sleep is if I were intimate with that person, both sexually and emotionally. I would have to worry about the mental wellness of an adult, male or female, watching their adult children sleep. As for Tom Paris, the most he could ever be is a 'boy toy'. Good for a quickie to relieve tension then put him back in the toy box. Chakotay? Kathryn would become bored with him as soon as the sex wore off. Nothing behind that tattoo that would stimulate her intellectually. B'Elanna? Intellectually yes, emotionally no. It would be one big fight after another as to who was boss in the relationship. Oh Well. As you say Kira66, we have fanfic to "Boldly go where Paramount didn't have the Nerve to go."
Speaking of Janeway/Kim...i wrote a story about that were she takes control of the situation and gets her some lol5/29/2007 #3
My favorite pairings... well, let's see....6/10/2007 #4
At first, it was Tuvok/Janeway, there was just something that I saw as "all they need is a bit of this-and-that happening to push the thing from friend/mentor to a more intimate thing", but that one sort of faded after a while.
And, this one I'm about to mention now was from a time where the show hadn't yet progressed that far, I also thought of a Seska/Torres/Chakotay triangle/threeway, be it just romantically or sexually too... that one after a while faded to the darkness of the back of my mind.
The three-way has been my next favorite after the Tuvok/Janeway pairing for a while, but those two lasted months... however, the next pairing has been with me for years:
B'Elanna Torres/Seven of Nine.
There was just something there which I saw as natural, even before I became aware of the whole fanfiction concept.
And I must admit, fanfiction has made me a very happy geezer.
When I first found fanfiction, I read general stories from several shows.
It wasn't until... oh, somewhere between 2000 and 2002 that I actually found my way to a story in the Star Trek: Voyager setting, and it completely made my day - heck, my month, even - to see that it was a story about B'Elanna and Seven.
Back in late 2006 I even started writing Seven/Torres fanfic myself, I managed to get one short angsty piece finished, I've been working on a bigger story for months now (roughly october/november 2006), every time I get far with it I find that it looks and feels too much like that first piece of Seven/Torres fanfic which I've read... and which obviously has a great influence on me.
Do any of the more experienced fanfic-writers have a way of dealing with that "carbon-copy"-syndrome?
After starting that large story for six times now since I've begun, it's beginning to haunt me... lol...
Forgot to add something, and I didn't see an "edit" button or anything, so I'll just post a follow-up.6/10/2007 #5
Cygirl1, I'm a bit curious about something you mentioned...
First you mention this:
"Seven is also a challenge. She does not recognize the chain of command and would not let Kathryn 'run over her.' It would do Kathryn good to have someone stand toe to toe with her and tell her 'you will fail'."
Then, a bit further into that post, you say this:
"B'Elanna? Intellectually yes, emotionally no. It would be one big fight after another as to who was boss in the relationship."
Seven gets to be found suitable for her abillity to go toe to toe with Kathryn in a relationbship, yet in B'Elanna's case she's not suitable because it would be "one big fight after another", sounds a bit contradictive to me.
Also, from what I recall, B'Elanna would be faster to accept a certain role in a relationship (heck, anyone who gets into a relationship with helmrat Paris would be willing to make sacrifices, I'd think).
You have a point BBW. Different approaches. I think Seven would want to be equals in a relationship. True, while with the Borg, she pretty much did as she was told. But she was also not an ordinary drone. She was being groomed by the queen as next in command and was allowed to keep a certain amount of independence. Free of the queen's control, she is now in control of herself and is not compelled to answer to anyone, except Janeway, when it please's her to do so or is logical. If Kathryn tried the 'myway or hiway' in a relationship and Seven preceived it to be illogical, She would approach it in a logical way. You are wrong, this is why, I will not comply, end of argument and she would go about doing what she thinks best. Janeway wouldn't like it but what can she do? Seven has effectively disengaged herself from the argument. By doing this Janeway would rethink her previous actions or in the least, know Seven would not respond to whatever attempts at control in the relationship Seven differed with.6/10/2007 #6
B'Elanna strikes me as wanting the lead in a relationship, She is use to issueing orders, and sometimes not in a very nice or calm way. She is confrontational and her way is the right way. We saw a lot of this in the first season. She will invade your space and get right up into your face, unfortunately, even violently, at least in the 1st season (She broke Carey's nose). She is also very territorial. Kathryn won't back down and B'Elanna won't back down. Logic be damned. Each would want the last work, forgeting what they were arguing about. Neither would be willing to just walk away. Janeway comes from the command structure of I'm the Captain, Do it. B'Elanna's history is one were she has a chip on her shoulder and a lot of anger to deal with. THese two would probably have great screaming matches and name calling going back and forth. Great make-up sex also.
This is my take. I have read a lot of fanfics and different authors see different dynamics and this can be from the same episode. What I preceive may not be what anyone else preceives.
As far as I'm concerned, B'Elanna and helmrat is a mistake. What B'Elanna sees in a 12 yo man is beyond me.
Now, I could see B'Elanna and Seven in a relationship. That is a whole other discussion.
Hm.... B'Elanna and Kathryn, great make-up sex.... amen to that lol...6/11/2007 #7
And yeah, I'm not too fond of Paris either... which is weird because I like the actor, and I even had some moments where I thought Paris was just living every guy's dream so anyone disliking him was just jealous, but in the long run.... well, I've got a few short humoristic stories in the works where Paris gets the butt-end of my sense of humor, sometimes even a lethal dose of it (getting phasered in certain parts of his anatomy, Klingon painsticks used on the same parts, and so on...)
You got a good point which I wasn't seeing in how Seven would want to be equals, and this would also be enforced by how Kathryn got her out of the Borg collective, and telling her she'd be an individual.
To Seven it would be logical that, Starfleet commands structure or not, all individuals would have equal say.
Of course, that would also add to the "Your reasoning is flawed and it will fail"-thing, but that's another sideroad to many different points of view... and I'm already known for my nitpicking ways, so I'll stay out of that one.
I had some other things to add, but I'm running out of time so I'll leave it at this, maybe I'll get in a bit more later today if I get the chance.
Found a few more minutes of spare time, so I placed my first story on fan-fiction.6/11/2007 #8
It's a short angsty one with character deaths implied, also archived on my own site.
Back on the topic of the previous posts, I have to agree to what was said about different authors coming to different stories based on the same episodes.
Myself, I'm all about B/7, so I'd read what I'd be after frm an episode and work that into a story where these two hook up... someone else would make it a J/7 story, and yet another one would make it Tuvok/7... and that's just the pairings, under the hood there'd be even more differences.
When I initially posted about how that comment about Seven and B'Elanna seemed contradictory, I hadn't taken all those things into consideration, I just read those lines, and went into nitpicking mode.
Also, kudos for the pm... I've already visited quite a few places that have such stories, including the ones you've mentioned, since discovering that there was a pretty rich feedingground for B/7 readers (though I'm running out of new places to visit, ah well, at least I still find some new stories on established places...)
Well, running out of time again, so this is it for me, at least for today.
I like the Janeway/Chakotay pairing, but I have fallen under the spell of Janeway/Paris. I have read some of your stories. They are good. I will be putting my story of Janeway/Paris up. I have looked all over this site read most of this pairing and I have the original hook. I am still a big Paris/B'Elanna fan, and will forever be one. I can't really see Janeway with anyone but these two people. I think she would get along better with Tom as a husband. They are both fleet brats, common background, they both seem to be made for the stars. I can see Chakotay on land, but both Paris and Janeway are made for the stars.6/30/2007 #9
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Well, it used to be Janeway/Chakotay - but now it's mainly Janeway/Kim. Why? Probably because I like the idea of Captain and Ensign - and I love both of them. (Not in that way - *glare*). But I'm currently writing a fic with a Janeway/Tuvok paring. So... Lol?11/03/2008 #10
According to my username, ther really is only one pairing on voyager that caught my attention and love. J/7, woo! I mean, there was LOADS of subtext between them in the series, and hey, an ex-Borg who's a knockout and a starship captain that would be willing to take a Borg out of the collective AT ALL together is really a hot pairing. But hey, that's just me.
I have an in-progress J/7 story which I just put the first chapter up yesterday. It may or may not be good yet, but CAUTION! it's M rated for later chapters.
xXSevenJaneway...I haven't read your story. As a rule, I read those that are completed. Can you give us a clue as to when it will be completed?
I'm in my J/7 phase and just wrote an uber novel, INTO THE NOW, 90,000 words long. I'm posting it on my web site in December. (for synopsis, go to my profile) THis is purely a 'mature' lesbian relationship story, even though it has a quasi-sci-fi background and takes place ninety years from now. By mature, I'm not talking about the sexual aspects (it is M rated), but the mature adult relationship dynamics between the two female protagonist; some positive and some negative. The Janeway character is thirty-eight, and I have written her from a mature adult woman's point of view. (I'm fifty-eight). She has plenty of flaws in her character that are not very conductive to a relationship, or, at least, a relationship that is equal. The Seven character is twenty-five and has not really 'come into her own' yet. They each must 'give' and 'grow' if the relationship is to work. It does have a happy ending.
My last four stories have been B'Elanna/7. My very first was J/7, DISTANT ECHO, and is on this site. B/7 has a very adversarial dynamic that I enjoyed writing about. It was fun getting B/7 together and seeing the sparks fly. But, J/7 did have a lot more subtext. Kathryn's more mature view of life and responsibilities, as well as age difference, has a dynamic that is more challenging to write. I can draw some from experience, since my lover is 12 years older than I am, and has, in some aspects, a different life view than I do.
All said, it's wonderful that the three main women of Voyager continue to inspire writers even after the series has long ended.11/16/2008 #12
I'll message you when I'm done, seeing as I never know when one of my stories gets done, as I write while I think, which leads to some days with no inspiration, or days where I write a lot, and things getting changed a lot as I think of new ideas.11/16/2008 #13
I would love to read that story! I'm a big fan of Janeway/Kim and have a couple stories written about them myself.Lol! Sadly, not many see it and think its weird. But I love them together and think they really could've worked.8/09/2010 #14
Ah, It's mostly Janeway/Paris or Janeway/Kim for me. But lately I find myself getting into the Janeway/Tuvok pairing and can't wait to read that story!8/09/2010 #15
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i'm extreme j/c. anything other than that, i puke. when i saw the part in endgame where 7 & chakotay kiss, i felt like puking.
i HATE seven, just 2 let u know. i'd rather see kaneway/torres anyday than j/7.5/22/2011 #16
Personally, I've always thought that the Kes/Neelix pairing was cute. I wish that they had stayed together. *Sigh*.6/29/2011 #17
I agree! I never did get the whole Kes/Tom thing. I mean I can see them having a bit of a crush on each other, but actually putting together was a bit too much if you ask me. At least it was in a different timeline.6/29/2011 #18
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