I tend to plug Epi's stuff because I genuinely like it - that's how she ended up posting here. When I read and review your story, then, I'll be tough but fair.

PLEASE REVIEW MY STORY!! thank you!

Hello Owlreader,

welcome to the forum. A quick glance tells me it's a Suefic, not my cup of tea. Did you want the review to help you to improve the tale, or did you want to raise your review count? Please don't take this the wrong way, it's just that you have already had concrit. If you want help with improving your story, please copy the web address and paste it into the "Plot Advice... saving myself?" thread, and we will be happy to help you.

Well, god forbid for me to shamlessly flog my own little story, but in the name of useful reviews i suppose i might :)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3675879/1/An_Argetlam_meets_Aragon

You go, guy!

i'd love to know what people think of my new story, http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4185977/1/Life_Journey

its a crossover in the works of many different tv shows and movies and maybe video games(havent decided yet whether or not to include video games). two teens set off from their island. One is looking treasure, the other wants to fulfill her grandmothers wishes. But on their journey, they must defeat an evil organization.

Hi, my name is Nukem an despite my relatively long standing status here on FF.net, I never really took much of an interest or direct effort into going to these forums. I really know i must sound like a total newb and a rather stupid one for not really knowing this site inside and out for being here for all these years, but I've never really had much experience with other authors so never really had anyone to talk to and well, my main reason for posting now is the same as this thread's source: reviews.

I was wondering if anyone could let me know through some reviews what they think of my latest stories "Until its Gone" in Kim Possible and "Shadows of the wretched" by Teen Titans. I particularly would like reviews on "Shadows" because I have been really working ** that story for many years now and I've gotten so little responses on it, any help or foresight or reviews would be greatly appreciated.

I apologize if i seem stupid about this but I'm kind of new to the FF forums so please bare with me.

i must sound like a total newb

Not at all. I've been on this site since 98/99. It was years before I registered (thought it was stupid) and more years to write a story (lack of confidence) and MORE years to talk to people (thought it was MORE stupid). Anyway, I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about cartoons, anime or any related categories. So I'm not sure I can help the last few posters to this thread. If you are looking for story structure help or basic grammar I might be able to give you a few pointers. I'm starting up a new story soon so I won't be able to give continuous feedback or make any promises that I will.

Hey guys.

I get "Please update" reviews, and it's not exactly what I'm looking for. I want reviews that might help me improve my writing.

So if there's anyone here that would like to read a Naruto story (Ino x Kiba) and give me some critique, I'd be very happy!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3996380/1/Blind

Emilie

Hey, I guess I could go for some reviews for my three stories. ^_^'

I personally like reviews that tell me what to improve on in detail. Praise is good, too, though; I don't mind that. But I don't really like the two-worded response, 'Update plz.' It just doesn't sit right with me.

Well, here's my stories:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3281306/1/Down_in_the_Chamber

I sort of have an issue with this one; something about my wording seems off to me.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3410197/1/Gloria_Victis

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4021145/1/Along_Came_Riddle

The other two I'm just looking for plain, old improvement.

Hey carrot.

I may be interested in helping with your take on Riddle/Minerva but before I do - a question - what are you looking for? I am a pretty brutal Beta. That is, I tend to give line by line wording/structural advice or de-construct your story and help you find ways to make it work. I haven't even looked at it yet so I don't know how much (or little) help you need. You'd probably be the better judge of that than I. I'd just like to know how deep you want someone to go or if there are any problems you're having you'd like me to help with.

Epilachna, feel free to get as elaborate as you like. I really like thorough details on what needs improvement. I have quite a few betas, because, well, I'm a beta horde; it has to do with being a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to my writing. But I know I can still use improvement, as to develop as a professional writer.

My 'Down in the Chamber' fic is the one that concerns me. With the wording, I mean. I don't know, it feels like I'm using the same words over and over. It just bugs me.

The other two I need to keep in check that I use 'active writing', instead of 'passive writing'. It's a bad habit, but I think I'm growing out of it. But all the same, if you can help me with that, I'll be forever grateful.

If you're really a thorough kind of reviewer who gives great constructive criticism, and doesn't hold back, I implore you to check out those three stories. It will really help me if you do. :)

Are all of these works in progress? *I'll check in a moment*. I'll check out your chamber one first if that's the one you feel needs the most help.

I don't think so...

I mean, you'd like to see the final product after only working with the draft, right?

And see if your advice was heeded, or point out missed errors in the beta-ing process?

I mean, I personally would LIKE my beta to review, so I know I did a decent job

But then.... I like getting reviews anyway, they make me smile

**hint to everyone else: read&&review my stories please? Especially anime/kingdom hearts fans :D

I would apriciate some concrit on these stories: "Songs from the Mark" http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3539206/1/Songs_of_the_Mark I say stories because the chapters tells independent stories. They both tells about Eorl the Young (Tolkien) and are narrative poems written in alliteration. I plan to make some revisions and it is the story in the second chapter in particular I would like comments on. Not that comments on the forst chapter is not apriciated, but it is older, I have already done several revisions of it and I feel that it has more or less found its form. The second I feel would benefiit from some more work, I've only revised it once and then only minor revisions.

I don't know if knowledge of Tolkien's work is nesserery, but it would not hurt as I have taken knowledge of at least the appendix of LotR for granted.

Review my stories? :]

I'd really appreciate some feedback on my Drake and Josh fic. It's called 'Long Live the Car Crash Hearts.'

Thanks.

333

I am not familiar with the fandom, will that pose a problem?

If you people want reviews go here: http://www.fanfiction.net/myforums/Adelaide_Madeline/1556325/ Please and thanks!

~Addie~

Hi Adelaide,

welcome to the forum! Feel free to contribute to the other threads, and if you want to advertise your own stuff, feel free to do so in the Relevant Plug thread for your forums or this one for your own stories.

Hello guys, I would also like some constructive criticism on my first fic, it's called 'A Hidden Alliance'.

I would just like to know how I'm doing with it so far.

Also, don't worry, I take criticism very well. Since I'm aspiring to become a writer, I need to know if I have the slightest twinge of potential to be. So, if the story is bad, then tell me. If it needs serious work, tell me. I would absoluetly love any advice anyone would like to give me.

**! I spelled absolutely wrong........sorry about that.......

Wendy...

Can you take a look at my challenge fic? I already got con-crit from Dimi, but it's nice to get some more help. ;)

I'll do it tomorrow, Mort.

Meanwhile, if someone else would like to look, please do. I will do it tomorrow, though. Honest!

That's what you said last time, Wendy. I recommended you as a beta, and you didn't give me my con-crit!

Just joking. I'll wait.

I sent you a beta-ed version of the story. I hope you find my comments helpful.

Well, for those who like McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern, I've two "novellas" up. Both are finished and I'll be getting onto a 3rd sometime soon, once my latest WiP is done.

The story that I'd like some honest crit for, however, is my "The Crow" yarn, which has not had many hits or reviews.

It's possibly also the kind of tale that is closest to my "real" stuff and there's some crossover with my own fiction as in the use of places and support cast.

Hi Onyx. I'll take a look at your Crow story. I really loved the movie and in the past my OCD has seen to it that it's played continuously on my TV for a week or more. I'm currently working on my own new fic so I won't promise I'll have time to follow along. I'll try and get to it in the next couple days.

Much appreciated. I find that most of the fics that I've read there have just been teeny-girl rehashes of the original movie character with self-inserts. Most don't "get" the idea that The Crow is back from the dead and he's unutterably mad. He exists solely to have his satisfaction. He knows no emotion save love and defending that love that has brought him back from the dead.

I saw some fics where they were ascribing latent human needs to The Crow. They ignore the fact that he's messed up and in pain. If anyone remembers reading the original graphic novel by J O'Barr they'd remember the scene where Eric shoots up with Funboy's smack. Eric wants to stop the pain. In order to do that he has to have revenge. When the need for revenge is gone, The Crow has no further purpose.

The pleasure is gained from seeing how the bad guys receive their just deserts.

I would like someone to review my stories and if you think anything is wrong please feel free to tell me honestly.

There is one of my stories for which I really require input is a Devil may cry one: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4086268/1/The_things_we_do

I really need help!

Ok it's that time again.

Sorry to complain slightly Wendy, but you said you'd cast an experienced eye over my new chapter but as yet i see no review from you!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3675879/4/An_Argetlam_meets_Aragon

Terribly distressing, have i done something wrong :(

Alas cruel fate!

Thanks

Jamie

yeah could u review my fic plz? calling for all beyblade or anime fanatics out there!!!!

Wow, what an interesting concept for a thread! Should people have a particular reason to ask for a review, or can it just be plain vanity?

I must say that while I am reasonably satisfied with the number of reviews I have received so far, I am a bit disappointed about the lack of specific comments. Most reviews don't go beyond variations on "This is really good." So, if anybody would like to look at my fairly short LOTR story http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4260562/1/The_Unsung_Sorrow and tell me why they liked (or disliked) it, that would be appreciated.

Also, if there is anybody around here with a thing about Terry Pratchett and/or Jane Austen, who has the nerve to read a 40 000+ words Vetinari romance, they are invited to peruse my darling project http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4100119/1/A_Winters_Tale and give their thoughts.

I wonder if that story would have attracted more readers if I had posted it chapter by chapter. BTW, is that the reason many authors do that? Or do they really write like that, one bit after another?

Wow, what an interesting concept for a thread! Should people have a particular reason to ask for a review, or can it just be plain vanity?

I confess to being a bit vain myself. I created the thread because people kept popping in and asking for reviews. I thought it best to give them a thread to do it in, rather than pull the writers' help threads off topic. Am glad you left your stories linked in here for people to review if they want to.

I wonder if that story would have attracted more readers if I had posted it chapter by chapter. BTW, is that the reason many authors do that? Or do they really write like that, one bit after another?

I did actually post a complete... not a story - got flamed... *cringe*

Most of us do write like that, and not just to get reviews. I have used the comments left by reviewers to write the next chapters of some of my stories. Sometimes I have posted a chapter and gone weeks without adding to it. This was about a lack of inspiration, rather than a desire for more reviews. To get a hot flame, beg for reviews, holding your story hostage until a set number has been reached. Those ones get hammered!

Well, I just think it is a bit odd, but I suppose people have different ways of working. With a longer story, I only have the basic outline in my head, then I fill in the bits higgeldy-piggeldy, depending on what I have ideas for (of course that means the difficult bits get done last...), then go over the whole thing again, making changes everywhere, tidying up continuity errors, weaving the motifs together better etc. Then suddenly have another idea, which means having to make changes to various parts of the story and so on and so forth.

I thought maybe people posted their stories a chapter at a time so that people wouldn't be put off by the sheer length of a fic.

Your way is vastly different to mine, since I work in an episodic fashion. I have the outline in my head, but as I write, the story often takes on a life of its own. It has been known to happen that my original intentions for the story are overwhelmed by either a rush of inspiration that carries it somewhere else, or a correction that has to be made to keep the story on canon. With me, usually it's both.

Yes, I often have the beginning, middle and end in mind, but getting from A to B to C takes me in all kinds of interesting directions. It's a lot of fun!

I wonder if that story would have attracted more readers if I had posted it chapter by chapter. BTW, is that the reason many authors do that? Or do they really write like that, one bit after another?

I don't think most of us have the patience to write a story and post it complete later. It took me 1.5 years to write my last story and I would never have spent that long working on a story without other people's feedback. Even if I was working on a novel for publication I'd have friends reading it along the way.

I do have a complete outline for a story before I begin. My current story had a 47 page outline before I began posting chapters but I leave wiggle room for character development and for things to change with inspiration.

I thought maybe people posted their stories a chapter at a time so that people wouldn't be put off by the sheer length of a fic.

Honestly, that idea would never cross my mind. (Nice to find people who have a completely different way of thinking.) I usually don't bother reading anything under 5-10,000 words because I like to be entertained for a long period of time. If I see a novel length fic with decent reviews, a good concept and the grammar/style is pleasing I am in heaven!

So when you have already posted parts of your story and then realize that you need to make changes for the beginning to match the later parts, do you just edit what you have already posted?

Re: Epi's post: Ditto! See my praise threads for details. :)

So when you have already posted parts of your story and then realize that you need to make changes for the beginning to match the later parts, do you just edit what you have already posted?

Rachel, who writes as Daughter of Thranduil, is experiencing this very thing, ATM. She started the fic way off canon, and I came along, and though I saw the flaws, I recognized the effort she was putting into it, so I helped her where I could. Now she is near the end, but has decided to revamp it to pull it back on canon and to correct the other errors. She is editing the story's earlier chapters and working on the later ones. The result is that continuity is a bit patch ATM, but will be complete when she has finished.

Toddling off for a while.

So when you have already posted parts of your story and then realize that you need to make changes for the beginning to match the later parts, do you just edit what you have already posted?

Hmm. See, my brain doesn't exactly work like that. I've never had to make changes other than to grammar and small details (like whether a character has to go up or down stairs to get somewhere). I usually have the entire concept and most of the character arcs complete in my head (or on paper) before I begin. Now, as I write, I may add characters to further a subplot or conflicts I didn't originally think of, but seem necessary after I began. Basically, I allow the characters to evolve from the start just like people do in real life - there is no changing what happened in the past, though things can be added later to explain a characters actions that may, at first, appear inconsistent with previous knowledge of them. For example, I had a character who didn't like to travel away from home (Erestor). Later I added into the story (completely independent of my original outline) an entire subplot with thousands of years of history behind why he didn't like traveling abroad.

Oh, well, I'm just wondering. Somehow my reviews seem to be out of proportion. What I mean is:

The Unsung Sorrow, 1400 words, no canon characters, straight forward and fairly easy to write: 10 reviews

A Winter's Tale, 41000 words, featuring well-loved canon character, very complex, highly polished and fiendishly difficult to write: 13 reviews

So, since I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the quality of the piece, I thought people were put off by the length of it. Or is there another explanation?

Sigh! 'Tis a well-known fact that around here, if you want a lot of reviews, you have to write an OC falling into Middle Earth or some other twaddle. A few of the reviews will be flames, while the others will be cuddly and encouraging. Sad to say, this is my experience.

I like angst, damn it!! :(

Yes, I've noticed that, too. The Discworld section, however, seems to attract a more mature clientele. Maybe people are just put off by the idea of OC/Vetinari romance and automatically think it must be a Suefic. Whatever. I should stop complaining, it's not as if that story had bad reviews or none at all.

OC/CC pairings usually are Suefics. Mind you, have seen a few of them done well - cough*Epi*coughcough*

Still, I'll have to check it out, now that you have piqued my attention. :D

Well, I wrote it in all innocence, not even knowing what a Sue was at that time, armed only with my knowledge of psychology and my sense for what is good taste in literature and after a really long and hard thought process about how and with whom Vetinari could possibly fall in love. I'm pretty sure my OC is a Sue only in the sense that she is an OC who marries the CC. But then of course, I'm biassed. ;-)

If your OC fits the fandom, she's not a Sue. Male characters need wives and suchlike to have kids, after all.

If she didn't bamf in from a US high school, I'll let it live! ;-)

How stupid do you think I am? I've never even been to a high school, I was a German grammar school pupil. ;-)

cough*Epi*coughcough*

Nice, Wendy. Subtle even. :)

I think I write pretty darn well and my stories don't get as many reviews as the Suefics. I think I get a lot of the older, wiser, and less inclined to have an account and leave a review crowd reading my stories. Case in point, 'Peredhel' (the fic Wendy coughed about) was favorited by 51 people - most of whom never left a review. It has been read through a maximum of 475 times (probably less taking into account double hits to the end chapters, but probably a good estimate), and I only got 29 farewell reviews on the last chapter which is pretty amazing by my account.

I wrote a couple other stories that reviewers told me made them cry - 'Immortal Tears' has 536 hits and still only 15 reviews.

Tis the lot of a fanfic writer I suppose. Sometimes I am tempted to write a Sue just for the praise. I could probably write a very entertaining one, but then I come back to my senses and write something of substance instead.

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