Well, right off the bat I’d like to state that I am a shameless Fiyeraba addict, and that heavy fluff makes me grin like an idiot. I despise any pairing that places these two with anyone other than each other, whether book or musical (obviously excluding Galinda/Fiyero while they’re still at Shiz in musicalverse, as long as Fiyero eventually dumps her for Elphaba), and probably will avoid a fic like the plague if it contains such a pairing. Can’t help it, Fiyeraba is love.

I think my second favorite is Glinda/Boq, because I think they’re adorable together, whether in book or musical based fics. I know a lot of people say it’s unrealistic, especially in musicverse because then Boq is the Tin Man, but I don’t feel that way. I love Boq as the shy munchkin boy, and I love when he’s written that way, because then it’s adorable when Glinda finally falls for him.

Well, those are my favorites, but I also tend to enjoy fics that are Nessa/Boq or Glinda/OC. The pairing I can’t stand the most is G(a)linda/Elphaba, especially in musical based fics, but I dislike it in book fics as well. I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel right. There is absolutely no evidence for it in the musical, and I know some people find their own evidence in the book, but it does nothing for me. I prefer the two of them as friends and nothing more. Other than that, I suppose I dislike all other pairings that separate Elphaba and Fiyero equally.

Kay, time for other people’s input. What pairings do you love and which do you hate?

Of course, I'd much rather prefer a Fiyero/WickedJelly pairing, but that's just me. :^P

I also love Gloq which, as you said, is pretty much very AU but extremely adorable. Opposites attract!

And while I used to be an extreme anti-Gelphie, the idea has kind of grown on me. The book *does* supply some suggestive quotes about the two (then again, it does suggest *all* sorts of pairings) but I'll only read extremely well-written Gelphie.

Any other pairings I'll...only read it, again, they're and provide strong evidence that the two are made well-written.

And I'm extremely anti-Fiyero/Glinda. No. Just no.

And Gelphie... ah, gelphie. Seriously, I have no clue about this one... I used to love it more than I love Fiyeraba now, but then... I don't know. Fiyero grew on me. And therefore in my stories, he grew on Elphie. I then went through a phase when I couldn't stand Gelphie, and would only read FIyeraba. Now I will read book Gelphie, but I will very rarely touch musical Gelphie. It throws the plot out the window!

I won't bother saying why I love this pairing so much, as it'll take too long...

But I also just love Bolinda (that's what I call it; I agree with Lady Tiggular - 'Gloq' just sounds too much like gloop...). :)

- SJ

"What's your life goal?"

"To write the greatest Gelphie story that has ever existed...and to have Idina's abs."

Lmao.

Both Sides Now by wicked-distraction is the best Gelphie I've ever read. It blew me away.

Alright, I'll check it out.

And Bessa :( I love Bessa (though I still think Nessaroq sounds just as cool ;D). It's so tragically flawed. Ironically, though, I don't like stories where Boq and Nessa are happily together unless it's Shiz.

Fiyessa? It's intriguing, but I can't see the basis :(

Bookverse I'm a lot more flexible with pairings. I think Elphoq is slightly sweet, and Galindaba a tad strange but believeable. Elphaba/OC are just as enjoyable.

Bolinda (FTW! Gloq sounds icky.) is amusing, but only if done right. I love the prospect of G(a)linda getting off her high horse and falling for the Munchkin, but I can't see it in canon unless some twists are made.

Filinda is okay as long as it's musicalverse (you wouldn't believe how many bookverse Filinda's I've seen. It irritates me :() and Shiz/before Wonderful. Afterwards it's just icky :(

In the musical she was so devasted by the death, even though it was a fake death Glinda, of course, did not know. So both girls had a true, deep and meaningful relationship and there was a love for one and other, even if it wasn't romantic althoutgh I prefer the romantic Glinda/Elphaba stuff and fluff.

This is only fiction *sobs* so please don;t flame me for my own opinion. Lots love to all other WICKED fans! The other pairing I likk is Elphaboq (go ahead and call me a hypocrite) because I like the ElphabaxBoqxGlinda triangle almost as much as the FiyeroxElphabaxGlinda triangle. Two great Gelphie/Elphaboq/Fiyerba triangle stories are:

UMLIMTED: Its a Gelphie with onesided Fiyero and he makes an awesome and hot evil guy. Its a very nice story.

SEA LION WOMAN: Gelphie with Elphaboq and its also very good. Glinda thinking Elphie loves Boq...you should read it!

I don't know why but I was just never able to get into Fiyeraba. Hmmm, anyway, thats just my opinion.

I like Gloq rather than Bolinda. Gloq sounds like something splatting, but Bolinda sounds like a gangster hooch. ;P

Neither of which seems terribly appropriate for the pairing.

Well, maybe the glockenspiel one.

Just because.

... Wicked fandom is so small and fic is so scarce that I'm not at all picky about pairings. If it's well-written and in-character, I'll read it and probably like it. I wish there were more variation in pairings, actually. It's kinda surprising that there isn't, given all the crazy stuff that was goin' down in the source material! :O

Gelphie...I don't know what to say...um...I don't like it. I used to hate it an awful lot...but I've learned to except it...more than before. Now, I could rant and rave about why it's wrong all day, but I've done that on too many things. I've read a couple and they're okay, I only like them if they're written REALLY well ,and a one-shot. I don't despise them AS MUCH as I use to. So thats my opinion.

I will admit that Elphaba/Glinda is a bit of a favorite of mine simply because of the subtext in the book. It's unconventional but sweet.

(Just a disclaimer: I am a fan of ALL pairings, whether they are canon or not, gay or straight. As long as it is written well!)

I understand that Gelphie isn't everyone's cup of tea, but is it necessary to go so far to say that you loathe it or hate it?

I only bring this up because I have seen some people say they don't like some other random pairing like Fiyero/Elphaba, Elphaba/Boq or Glinda/Boq etc...but they never write like scathing words of hatred about it. I just was wondering why Gelphie gets all of that? And oftentimes people have an addendum that says that their words are not to be misconstrued as homophobic...but it's kinda hard not to when you use vitriolic words to discribe your dislike for it.

Keep in mind I am not trying to cause fights or arguements, nor do I believe that anyone who posts on this board is homophobic. As a lesbian woman, I feel 100% accepted and comfortable here.

Smooches,

Nimby

I'm sorry if I came off that way, I didn't mean to offend anyone.

It's a tough issue you know?

Like there's virtually no Gelphie subtext in the musical, but it's in the Novel. But despite all that, isn't that the point of Fanfiction? You imagine how you would've wanted it to be, whether or not the original author/creator/whatever intended it that way.

BTW, I don't believe we've met, I'm GelNimbus, affectionately referred to as Nimby. :)

I don't know, I'm rambling lol.

I'm Bombalurinasara, more intimately known as Bomba.

I've read the novel 4 times through and know it inside and out lol. I like it a lot more than the musical, simply because I read it first. And novel Elphaba is just an amazing literary character. :)

So you're a fan of Cats I take it? I saw that forever ago!

Yup, I liked CATS lol. I was introduced to it years before I ever saw WICKED and have to admit that they are two completely different styles of musicals lol.

I agree with you, Elphaba is a great literary. I find that the adults who read the book, find she's whinny and annoying; while people like us, the younger generation, find her hero material. It's interesting to see peoples different opinions on things.

What's everyone else's opinion?

I would write more, but I have dish duty tonight, so I should get to dinner early.

I will say that I saw the musical (er, OBC videos on YouTube...) before I read the book, and Gelphie was definitely the first pairing that occurred to me. Possibly because a.) Idina and Kristin just couldn't stop touching each other, and b.) I tend to like fanon pairings that are based on canon friendships. I guess that is just how I roll.

And I think most people who like Gelphie are thinking "It is an interesting relationship that is fun to explore in fanfic! :D" (which I wholeheartedly agree with) rather than "This totally actually happened in the book/musical and you're just blind for not seeing it!! *angryface*", which is really annoying no matter what fanon pairing you're talking about. As if it really has to have happened in canon to be worth writing about. xP It's the possibilities of complementary or conflicting personalities that make a pairing interesting, and two characters don't have to have spent half the book or musical blatantly making out for us to start seeing those possibilities.

Plus, pretty girls! Kissing each other! Yay!

But anyway, I've read plenty of fanfictions now, and slash is as natural as anything now. I really hate noncanon slash if it's seriously impossible, but if it's hinted at, why not? Taking things out of context is what we writers do best ;D.

Galindaba (I'm calling it that >:0. It sounds better than Gelphie) is delicate, I think, because the two are best friends- and G(a)linda's Elphaba's first real friend, so a lot of people hesitate to take it one step further for a variety of reasons. I do enjoy the occasional Galindaba (especially since Fiyeraba and Gloq are taking over the Wicked FFN world >.>) just to mix things up, but I probably could never write one, myself.

But yeah, the people who hate Galindaba just because it's femslash or the like need help. You can dislike it, but seriously, have reasons other than 'eww girl on girl'. Grow up >.>.

Gloq is pretty cute too. Galindaba..is interesting. Not my favorite, but I'll read it.

*poofs to do homework*

I just really don't like Gelphie, or Chenzel for that matter. I have actually reveiwed a Gelphie one-shot to try it on for size, and they just make me twitch...I don't know I guess it comes from me wanting Elphaba and Fiyero together forever. Or maybe because nothing REALLY happened in the book or musical, you know?

First of all, I believe that Gelphie is cannon in it's own way. I know Fiyero and Elphie are together in both the play and the book, but, Gregory Maguire hinted it in his book...and it was hinted slightly in the play as well. I don't have many arguments for Gelphie, since it didn't happen, but...It's just too cute. ^^

What I do like, and probably only know one or two other people who do too, is biyero. Figuring I'm the only person(just guessing, not sure) that have written one, I guess I have to like it. I know there was absolutly no hint or suggestion or anything in the book or movie, I dont have the same arguements as the gelphie fans, but its still something that fasinates me.

Also, Bessa is the sweetest thing ever.

Actually, right now the only pairing I have a real problem with is Gelphie, and mainly because there's just so much of it on this site right now. Is there actually more Gelphie archived here than Fiyeraba?

And the same can be said for Fiyeraba, a romance between a well liked man and an outcast. It's not easy being green!

The less popular pairings tend to be better, because I think more experienced writers attempt them.

As far as Fiyeraba and Gelphie archive numbers...I'd say its about equal but leaning more on the side of Fiyeraba.

It stinks that people have to preface their disdain for Gelphie by saying that they're not homophobic IMO.

*raises hand* :D (also i may or may not have secretly written it before but it was totally rated pg-13 and i never posted it anywhere, shh, don't tell)

I also have a secret, secret love for Avaric/Boq. (in the novel of course, don't look at me like that o_o) Avaric is pretty much a jerk to everyone else but he seems to genuinely care about Boq (and Boq to care about him), even though it's obvious that they're two very different people. And I find that intriguing, so why the heck not. I'd like to read anything exploring their relationship, actually - friendship or otherwise. (Same with any pairing I like. xD)

At first I loved the idea of Boq/Nessa and was irked that I couldn't find any to read, but as it's getting more common, the more I read the less I like it. ;-; And the reason, I think, is that to me, it is vehemently not a fluffy pairing. I was having visions of like, exploration of deep-seated psychological issues! dark themes! relationships founded on lies and deceit! obsession and co-dependence and insecurity, obligation and resentment and frustration! and perhaps some hot, grudging makeout times?! but instead, it looks like fanfic!Boq-and-Nessa hang out in sunny fields of flowers and feed each other candy all day, or something. Which is okay, if you're into that sort of thing, but threw me for a loop at first, since it's pretty much the exact opposite of how I had interpreted the pairing. I DON'T KNOW, PERHAPS MY BRAIN IS IN BACKWARDS. ;-;

What are you trying to say? I may not like Gelphie, but that doesn't mean I'm homophobic. :-/

I said that it stinks that people feel that they need to tack on "I'm not homophobic" when they say they don't like Gelphie, when it's all just a matter of taste. I agree that it doesn't necessarily mean that they are homophobic.

I love them because...

- Their relationship is realistic and I can relate to it so much.

- Their personalities are so realistic and I can relate to both of them in different ways, equally.

- They fight because of their conflicting personalities but they pull though, giving hope to real people.

- It's not perfect (like life), he's married with children, she's underground. He doesn't even know if he's actually in love with her and she doesn't think so afterwards, wondering if he was just a spy or involved with Glinda. It's complicated as love can be, tackles real issues whilst being a beautiful fantasy of a green misunderstood female un-maternal rebel fighter and an intelligent orchre tribal hunter-turned-sophisticate, you can't get more sublime really. They’re both misfits- which is done in the musical (by making him a Scarecrow) as well as in the book where it’s more of a social thing- but they love each other for each others differentness, uniqueness, otherness. It’s beautiful and offers a wider view of how lovely life really is.

- You get an adrenaline rush from the secretiveness of them, it's like a private thing - just them and the reader.

- You get such an adrenaline rush from the two most mysterious characters in the book discovering each other that it's dizzying- especially when it comes to Elphie's secret work plans...

- He's so ordinary - he gambles, he’s stubborn, he’s confident, he’s careful, he’s sensitive, he’s unsure (‘lazy doubt about everything‘) he cries, he gets confused, he wants to be accepted- and fair minded that it's beautiful and you can imagine meeting him (and he makes a lot of people think of their own lover or someone in the past), and his images consciousness (his 'graduate school affectations') is human, so pretty sweet too. But he's right, he hasn't really changed. Making him a secure, continuous and un-shallow person. He's polite and graceful-whoever said women don't like good guys are crazy- another thing Maguire resolves in City of Emeralds. He's the sweetest person ever, so unrefined underneath like Elphie. They're just themselves and they can't change (Fiyero to Elphie: 'I'm still an Arjiki tribal boy underneath'.), (Elphie to Boq: 'I wish I could leave myself behind but I don't know the way out') She's...well she is Elphaba, a hero to us all, but we can still relate to her. Perfection. Need I say anymore? I can't do her justice. He's so ordianry and yet he gets close to HER, Fabala the hero- it's like 'wow Yero, how where you even allowed near?' :O You feel like you know him.

- Superficially, he's exotically beautiful in an achingly desirable way, (which makes readers simply drool!) and he loves ELPHABA, who is apparently 'hawk-faced' and is spiky to him and has such low self esteem she doesn't even think she is a 'realer' person, and she is also physically and spiritually self-conscious, which people can identify with. The fact that Yero wants her and likes her gives hope and reduces low self-esteem in the reader. It's hard to explain but they're given me a new outlook on life.

- they're so different yet so ordinary, it's just amazing.

-It's almost unbearably tragic, it's painfully beautiful, even long after the death of sweet Yero (which makes you feel you've lost a friend/lover) and sorry for poor Fae. Her love is heartbreakingly enduring until she dies.

- They're brilliantly balanced for each other. He needs independence and she needs Yero's fair way of thinking ('I don't believe in this concept of real or realer people') and he needs her ways too (Yero: 'It's not becoming.' Elphie: 'It's unbecoming. A perfect word for my life. I who have always been unbecoming am becoming un.'). They the perfect antidote for each other.

And I'll probably think of more reason why they set my soul alight, too.

It covers so much that can hurt a human being and we see it through Fiyero's ordinary eyes; the extraordinary private world of Elphaba…Gregory Maguire is a genius.

Also: because they've got different personalities which causes conflict but it still works, showing that there is hope for people in realistic circumstances. :D

And Because he thinks he is dull and ordinary and she has no self-esteem (no self even!) it shows the reader that there's hope for people in those situations. One in the eye for that silly phrase 'you can't be loved unless you love yourself.' They are so easy to identify with, they've soothed me for one.

Yero's ordinary when he's being 'stupidly male' too. And for fretting and worrying that she'll leave him, who hasn't been there? And for not having a brilliant relationship with his children. Like Elphie with Liir. Well, okay maybe Yero is a bit better than her, but her circumstances are awful after his death. Her Self-blame makes it worse, love and low self-esteem can do that, but taking blame also takes a great deal of inner strength. We can learn from Elphie-Fae. She isn't just a hero and a rockin' female role model she‘s a learning point and helps people make sense of themselves and their lives :D

So hey I hope they're happy together in the Other Land!!! :D Blue Diamonds on a Green Field Forever! xXx

And whoever it was that recommended "Unlimited" earlier, thank you xD

I can definately see the attraction of Gelphie <3 It is very cute.

I agree. Some people could take it the wrong way, though. >.>

Second, I don't have a problem with people who aren't Gelphie fans. I still find the Elphaba and Fiyero relationship to be redeeming in it's own ways, and have no problems reading or reviewing them. But, can I help the fact that I am drawn more to one ship than another? -Shakes head.- Not in my book. Anyway, I think all ships are cute in their own ways...I just find Gelphie to be the most intriguing.

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