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Bass Cross Megaman
Topic: OCs related to cannon Characters
Have you ever read, or writen a story where a OC was a relative of one of the cannon characters (Tk, Davis, Kari, cody, Ken, etc)? Well wither you have or have not, whats your take on having OCs related to main or cannon characters?
#1 Oct 06th 2006, 9:00pm . Edited by Dark Qiviut, Jul 15th 2007, 12:40pm
kamikai-bunny
It makes it so the writer doesn't have to make up a big back story and other things like that. The only thing they really have to make is the character and digimon. OC's without relatives would need a history and all that other stuff.
#2 Oct 06th 2006, 9:08pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 9:09pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Actliy, there are severl (Digimon or other wises OCs) OCs that are relatives of a cannon character and have big back storys.
#3 Oct 06th 2006, 9:29pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 9:29pm
Dark Qiviut
I have to agree with Darkheart on this one. There have been several canon character-related fancharacters that have a very big - and/or realistic - backstory. Yes, it may be a commonly used idea in fanfics (and that's for all the fandoms, not just Digimon), but it can be done well... as long as the evidence provided in the story is logical.
#4 Oct 06th 2006, 9:37pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Also, having a OC related to a main character adds deep to it. Seeing as they interact with their relative )sister, brother, mother, father, ETC) so i find it interesting.

And on a side note Dark Qiviut, i notice in your profile you don't like the Yu-Gi-Oh GX pairing Jaden/Alexis. Why is that? This is just to ask nothing more, not meaning to get off topic here or make you mad. I have really growen to like it.

#5 Oct 06th 2006, 9:50pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 10:09pm
Dark Qiviut
Also, having a OC related to a main character adds deep to it. Seeing as they interact with their relative )sister, brother, mother, father, ETC) so i find it interesting.I agree. Having a fancharacter and a canon character interact with each other can lead into very interesting results.

And on a side note Dark Qiviut, i notice in your profile you do not seem to like the Yu-Gi-Oh GX pairing Jaden/Alexis. Why is that? This is just to ask nothing more, not meaning to get off topic here or make you mad. I have really growen to like it.The reason I didn't like Jaden/Alexis all that much was because of how most of its fanbase treated those who didn't like the pairing. That turned me off from liking it. However, after reading a good Juuska (my pet name for this pairing :P) fic, I started liking itt. Then, I went to disliking it for the reason provided. However, after concentrating on their personalities a little, I started to like it again.

So, no, I'm not mad. I have to thank you for this: I have to update my coupling profile. ;)

#6 Oct 06th 2006, 10:15pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 10:15pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Hey i gott nothing agenst people who like other Jaden or Alexis pairings, just as long as their cool with me i'll be cool with them. The only thing that would make me dislike a pairing is how its handled, or if i like the characters that are paired up. I don't like Kari yet i like the Daikari pairing, and i gott nothing agenst other people who like Takari or any other Kari pairing. Just as long as they don't give me troble about it.

You should not let the fanbase influance your veiw of a pairing at all, i kind of leared that that HARD way.

#7 Oct 06th 2006, 10:23pm
Dark Qiviut
You should not let the fanbase influance your veiw of a pairing at all, i kind of leared that that HARD way.THAT'S the hard part. The fanbase has a tendancy to make people lose a ton of interest regarding pairings. But it's not just me. Many others have lost interest to pairings, too, as a result of this.

But you hit it right on the button, Darkheart. People shouldn't be pushed away from a couple fanbase because of how fans treated others. What you said should be something everyone (even me) should think about... and that's something not many people have done.

#8 Oct 06th 2006, 10:37pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 10:39pm
kamikai-bunny
ok...stay on subject...

I like OCs without "famous" relatives. If you're going to put so much work into making a character, why give should they share a story with someone who has already has one?

#9 Oct 06th 2006, 10:40pm
Bass Cross Megaman
THAT'S the hard part. The fanbase has a tendancy to make people lose a ton of interest regarding pairings. But it's not just me. Many others have lost interest to pairings, too, as a result of this.

I say pay people like that no attenson at all. If you do that, then they (well most of the time) will leave you alone.

But you hit it right on the button, Darkheart. People shouldn't be pushed away from a couple fanbase because of how fans treated others. What you said should be something everyone (even me) should think about... and that's something not many people have done.

Aww, thank you Dark Qiviut your to kind.

#10 Oct 06th 2006, 10:42pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 10:46pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Because it makes it interesting, it makes it in deep, it makes it a challange to write.
#11 Oct 06th 2006, 10:47pm
kamikai-bunny
it doesn't make it challenging and it doesn't make it deep. The reader already knows info about one charrie so that doesn't leave much to the imagination. The readers already know how one character thinks and his/her personality. I think people like the whole love triangle with a new character becus it adds a twist to the original story and people like twist. Not becus it's hard to make. If I already had a character made and all I need was a love intrest, it take a short time to make it up.
#12 Oct 06th 2006, 10:53pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Sorry, but adding a character that is a relative of a cannon charater makes that charater seem more connection to that universe. And turth be told, i have a OC whos the older brother of Davis and Jun Motomitya and his nothing like them. His always com and cool-headed, unlike Jun and Davis who are sometimes hot-headed. Also, not everone things the same way, Davis perfures to rush right into a fight while my OC whos his older brother perfures to plan before anything else. And my OC keeps his inner thoughts to himself.
#13 Oct 06th 2006, 10:57pm . Edited Oct 06th 2006, 11:00pm
kamikai-bunny
I beg to differ. Making a character with a relative give you a foundation to work off of. You can make your character the opposite of the relative, or they can be like brothers, etc. With a charrie who has no ties you have to pull a personality out of nowhere, especially one that doesn't fall into the usual mainstream image
#14 Oct 06th 2006, 11:06pm
Bass Cross Megaman
That doesn't mean having a OC related to the main characters is a bad thing to do. In the case of making an OC related to one of the main cast, I actually find that it gives the OC more depth, and a firm connection to whatever universe I happen to be writing
#15 Oct 06th 2006, 11:09pm
kamikai-bunny
Im not saying that it's a bad thing to do, I just think it's the cheap way to making a story. But that's my opinion. I see what you mean with the connection to the universe the charrie is in. It may give your character more of a purpose in the the universe, but an OC without ties has to prove to the reader that they are up to the standards that the the main characters hold. In one of my stories, the character has no ties but around him are clues of the main characters even though the two never interact. It still give the sense of being in the same universe, but gives the OC more freedom all together
#16 Oct 06th 2006, 11:18pm
Dark Qiviut
I agree with both of you here. The fancharacter who is related with a canon character could provide some meaning. However, only if the character and his/her relation with the canon characters are done well. And I already explained why earlier.

And it is challenging, possibly more challenging that introducing a character who *isn't* related with a canon character into the picture. Because you want to see why he/she is important to the cast, and you want to see how and why they are related even though they weren't part of the canonical picture.

And this is not only where many of the more inexperienced authors fall into, but also where the phrase "Weave your own odyssey" comes into play. Sometimes, authors will sometimes make shortcuts as to why the fancharacter and canon character are related to each other. For example, the reason as to why they were related but separated may be because they were adopted by another family. Sometimes, this reasoning works. Sometimes, it does not. It more or less depends on your opinion. If the shortcut does not work, then the author needs to elaborate it a little more, as just a brief, bold statement might not always work in the fanfic plot(s). You may even want to use a more different approach as to why they're related, but how much do you have to put in so the reasoning makes sense? It may be one chapter, sometimes ten. It all depends.

In my opinion, it's not usually the easy way to provide a biological relation between a fancharacter and canon character. But it's really the *best* way to write how the characters are connected in some way or another. Are your reasons why the characters related to one another the best, or are there even better options you can choose from? It all determines on the author's viewpoint...

#17 Oct 06th 2006, 11:33pm
kamikai-bunny
yea thats how one of my story goes. They were born triplets but one seperated becus of adoption and the other two stayed together for a while until the parents seperated. But this was all original characters with out ties. I guess I like no ties becus I play alot of OC rps with characters that are made up. Only a small percent of players like OC's with ties
#18 Oct 06th 2006, 11:41pm
kamikai-bunny
oh sorry about that. Quite a few people like OC's with ties. It's just something I wouldn't get into
#19 Oct 06th 2006, 11:43pm
Bass Cross Megaman
I see your point, so what OCs do you have that are related with a canon-character?
#20 Oct 07th 2006, 8:11am
kamikai-bunny
A Naruto character. Its the son of Hanabi Hyuga. His name is Hunjiko Hyuga.
#21 Oct 07th 2006, 9:38am
Bass Cross Megaman
Also, lets talk about OCs whos love interest happens to be one of the cannon-characters.
#22 Oct 07th 2006, 1:55pm
kamikai-bunny
blah :P the whole love triangle in digimon with cannon--cannon and cannon--OC is annoying because everyone wants to do one. there are too many
#23 Oct 07th 2006, 1:58pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Well sometimes love triangels don't have to happen, like have the other Cannon character interested in a nother person.
#24 Oct 07th 2006, 4:20pm
kamikai-bunny
but usually it an OC jumping inbetween a relationship of cannon characters. Ex: Tk + Kari + plus new guy = equals love triangle or another Ex: Tk + Kari + Davis = equals cannon love triangle. they make up a big percent of digimon fanfiction
#25 Oct 07th 2006, 6:47pm
Bass Cross Megaman
I am not that fond of love triangels, infact thats how most character-bashing begines.
#26 Oct 07th 2006, 8:12pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Ok, let tell you exsactly why i don't like love-triangels. Most of the time there is someone in the triangel who gets bashed by the fans. Davis is a good exsample, his apart of the so called Daikari/Takari love triangel. A lot of Takari fans see Davis as a, well obsicol (forgive the bad spelling) inbetween the two. Thus they fell that they have the right to bash Davis and call him a heartless jeark, when that is the last thing he is. They also beliave in so called "Destiny Love" and that Tk and Kari have to be toghter.

So you can see what i am geting at.

#27 Oct 08th 2006, 9:20pm
kamikai-bunny
yea they are not my favorite type of fanfiction but what are you going to do? people like romance
#28 Oct 08th 2006, 9:26pm
Bass Cross Megaman
But do they have to bash ccharacters like Davis, Jun, JP and so forth? Did you notice that alot of the people who get bashed are those who have a crush or any form of liking to a nother character that the fans consiter too good for them?
#29 Oct 08th 2006, 11:09pm
kamikai-bunny
i know what you're saying. people bash davis because they believe he's messing up kari and tk: the perfect couple. Even though davis is the one with the big crush on kari, everyone believes tk deserves her. thats just not right
#30 Oct 08th 2006, 11:13pm
Bass Cross Megaman
You think that some people would (dont't know if i am insulting someone here) grow up a little bit?
#31 Oct 08th 2006, 11:17pm
kamikai-bunny
yeah i do. fairy-tale love is for little kids
#32 Oct 08th 2006, 11:19pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Um, i meant see that bashing characcters because they see them as treats to a couple is some what dumb.
#33 Oct 08th 2006, 11:24pm
kamikai-bunny
oh ^_^ yeah that too.
#34 Oct 08th 2006, 11:27pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Well anyway why we are on the subjet of OCs, lets talk about OCs. Namly villen OCs. Do you have any?
#35 Oct 08th 2006, 11:30pm
kamikai-bunny
I have some, but they are mostly digimon. One is named Fera Sujikoi. She's has killed quite a few digidestined and destiny renegades. I have another one but she's sorta unnamed at the moment. I have to give her a name.

what about you?

#36 Oct 08th 2006, 11:38pm
Bass Cross Megaman
I have, a Yu-Gi-Oh GX villen that goes by the name Cruella. A female villen whos also something of a rare hunter. She beats opponents and then takes their rarest card.
#37 Oct 08th 2006, 11:42pm
kamikai-bunny
Cool. I dont really like Yu-Gi-Oh GX that much. I think it's ok but not as great as the original. Who are the OCs you have?
#38 Oct 08th 2006, 11:47pm
Bass Cross Megaman
Well most of them are the one menteds hench-men. Well most of them apper in a Yu-Gi-Oh GX/Digimon crossover fanfiction, which i well write as soon as i know what happen thuoght out the show (and i have missed a lot) one did apper in a fanfiction that i have been meaning to write. Darth, a duelist who came to the Duel Academy to duel Jaden. Darth is a cold hearted person who has little to no fellings, all he cares about is winning at all given chost. When he dueled Jaden and deafeted him, Jaden was injured perty badly.

Darth duels with a darkness deck. A deck made mostly for dark monsters, along with trap in magic cards that deal damgae to the oppontents life points.

#39 Oct 08th 2006, 11:54pm
kamikai-bunny
oh. I just have tons of digidestined:

Nakui--triplet 1, the laid back one

Naoki--triplet 2, straight forward, more of an strict adult

Iuna--triplet 3, fun loving

Henji--fun loving, reckless, naive

Tazii--best friend of henji

Ace--outsider

Sayuka--mean one, tough girl

Yakuri--happy, naive

they're not in the digital world all at once though

#40 Oct 09th 2006, 12:02am
Bass Cross Megaman
I just happen to have a few Digimon Villens myself.
#41 Oct 09th 2006, 12:12am
kamikai-bunny
oh. that cool. I like digimon villians
#42 Oct 09th 2006, 12:13am . Edited Oct 09th 2006, 12:16am
Bass Cross Megaman
Did you just post the same thing twice?
#43 Oct 09th 2006, 12:15am
kamikai-bunny
(yeah i kinda did but i edited it)

yeah i have sadly only one digimon villian and her two digimon henchmen

#44 Oct 09th 2006, 12:18am
Bass Cross Megaman
I have one, a digimon that goes by the name Epyonmon. A mega level warlord dragoon digimon of the virus type. Cold and heartless his the master of the Dark Zone, a large ruin city (think the dead sea from Crono Cross) thats home of the deadly zombie digimon Mawmon. Epyonmon had the 02 digidestends transported to his home world, and prove to be their stroungest foe yet. He was evcasliy broght down by the combine force of AlForcesVeedramon Future Mode, GranKuwagamon Gaia Mode, and Omnimon.
#45 Oct 09th 2006, 12:45am
kamikai-bunny
that sounds cool.
#46 Oct 09th 2006, 9:34am
Bass Cross Megaman
The Mawmon are his henchmen. Their rookie level digimon that are a pain to get rid of when they are in a group. They are bornen when a Digimon called Muramon, a kind of zombie crab Digimon, attaces itself to a laving cratures, Digimon or other wise, head and slowly turns the being into a Mawmon. The Mawmon's attacks are Claw Strike and Vital Bite. Their not stroung by they are hard to get rid of beccause fo their numbers. There are also three kinds of them, Mawmon Normal, Mawmon Posion, and Mawmon Fast. Mawmon Normal are basice ones having not speacl feactures of them, also all Mawmon kinds share Claw Strike and Vital Bite as attacks. The Mawmon Posion are biger and slower versons. They can relase deadly toxions from their body, infeacting their prey and making them unable to move. Mawmon Posion's attacks are Claw Strike, Vital Bite, and Toxion Spores.

Mawmon Fast are Mawmon who look like they almost have all of their skill riped off to the point where you can see organs and bone. Their a lot faster then Mawmon Normal and Mawmon Posion, but are also a lot weaker. Their lack of power is made greatly up by their speed. Their attacks are Claw Strike, Vital Bite and Bone Slash.

#47 Oct 09th 2006, 11:03am
kamikai-bunny
so they are kind of like virus digimon
#48 Oct 09th 2006, 11:06am
Bass Cross Megaman
Ya, but they are realiy Viral Digimon. Their kind of like Virus Digimon only, they have the ablity to infect other Digimon, or even humanbeings with their virus and turn them into Mawmon.
#49 Oct 09th 2006, 11:11am
kamikai-bunny
Oh...so they turn humans and digimon into Mawmon
#50 Oct 09th 2006, 11:16am


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