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Rikku the bluefirevixonyeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm looking online, but I can't seem to find anything consistent. |
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Midnight CascadeAlright. If you come up with anything, tell me.Edit: I'ma lock up the Flickr Forest thing until we get this sorted out. | #52 Mar 10th, 8:08pm . Edited Mar 10th, 8:14pm | |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconI found one...but it's WAAAAAY to complicated.I still say we just do ATK divided by DEF multiplied by 2 and move the decimal space one to the...right? |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonShould we just get rid of the bloks and just stick with def? |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconEh? Blok and Def have nothing to with each other. BLOK is blocking and evading, really has a lot to do with speed. DEF is just the measure of how much the ATK affects you. Why with the BLOK hate Rikku? |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonI'm just confused as to how all this affects damage... |
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Midnight CascadeI guess we can do Piau's idea, but everyone would need a calculator. THEN AGAIN, every computer comes equipped with a calculator.... |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonAlright that's fine. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonOh, and will BLOKs just be used to consider evasion? |
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Midnight CascadeI guess so. You guys can unlock the Flickr Forest topic when you want to. |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconYeah it will Rikku. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonHey, just so you guys know, I'm going to be out of town on my spring break from March 14-22, which is this friday night to a week from saturday night. I don't know that I'll have any internet where I'm going, and even if I do, I probably won't be on much. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonOh and what's strength in comparison to attack? |
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Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon...yeah, that one's kinda pointless here. We can skimp STR. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonyou know, I was just thinking, shouldn't different magic attacks have different strengths? Particularly when comparing -ra's to -aga's. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonso should we claim an end to the fight and give us all the exp points? |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonArtemis DianaClass: archer Lvl: 1 Exp: 50 Exp needed to level: 50 Ability Points: 3 Stats: HP(Health Points): 160 MP(Magic Points): 70 ATK-8 DEF-10 MDEF-11 BLOK-0 MBLOK-7 STR-9 M-7 VIT-16 SPD-13 Abilities: none Updates: additional exp and aps | #67 Mar 25th, 8:53pm . Edited Mar 25th, 8:55pm | |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonOkay, percentages: for magic and phys attacks, we can keep doing it how we are for the most part. But with spells like cure, then percentages would probably be the easiest way to do it, and I think that's how healing things work in the games. So like, cure could renew 35% of your max HP (so if your max HP is 100, and you're down to 40 HP, then cure would bring it up to 75), cura could renew 50%, and curaga renew 70% ((these numbers do not have to be used, this is just an example)). For skill attacks, like your crescent moon, then each of the attacks can be assigned a damage percentage. Like, each blow from that attack would cause x% of the max HP in dmg ((so, if a skill attack did 30% damage, and the max HP of the foe is 100, then each time the foe was hit with the attack, then it would lose 30HP)). And the percentages can be assigned individually per skill depending on how strong it is. Percentages can also be used for increasing the attack strength of more powerful magic spells. Like, we use our equation for a level 1 spell like fire, but maybe for fira, we could increase the attack that the formula generates by a certain percentage, and then increase it by an even higher percentage for firaga. AND, for weaknesses, then we would use our normal equation to calculate damage, but then if the foe had a weakness to that kind of an attack, then they would lose an additional percentage of dmg. So, like the Ochu is weak towards fire. So if it's hit with a fire attack, then you would calculate the damage (let's just use 100), and then because it's weak towards fire it could lose an additional 40% from the attack, making it lose 140 HP instead. The time-consuming part would be assigning official percentages to everything, but once that was done, I think we can more accurately calculate damage and healing for magic and skills and stuff. And since we already are calculating damage, using percentages would not be any more time consuming when calculating the damage, and I'm pretty sure it's math everyone can handle. If you guys like the idea, then I could work on assigning percentages if you like. :) |
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Midnight CascadeI like the idea, though it's a bit difficult to understand. And, for the weakness part, you can just multiply the damage by 1.5. Like, Ochu is weak to fire like you said, let's say someone used fire on it and cause 100 damage. It'd cause 150 damage since it's weak. Also, we need to get this forum in order lol We need to start editting posts and stuff, like the rules topic and such. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonI'm editing the how fighting and leveling works thing as we come up with new stuff. I like the idea of 1.5 for weaknesses, we can use that. And the concept of percentages may be difficult to grasp, but I think once they're applied it won't be as difficult as you think. Should I go ahead and start coming up with percentages for the attacks? (I'd edit the post in the AP Store) |
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Midnight CascadeYeah, go ahead and do that. We need Piau here so we can continue the RP though ._. |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconI'm not doing a thing till this is all sorted out. With all this we'll probably have to redo the whole Flickr Forest RP. AND, I think it's time to stop ignoring the Carrot in the room. We need to do items. Basic ones though. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonWell we have pretty much all of the attack stuff sorted out I think except Azu-kun's Crescent Moon thing. Eh, technically we should redo the Flickr Forest RP, but I'm totally okay with not doing that. Let's just continue from this point on with what we've come up with. This is a learn as you go thing anyway, and it would be super annoying to redo something every time something has to be changed anyway. As long as no one in the party ends the battle dead, then it shouldn't make too big of a difference. "carrot in the room" hadn't heard that one yet...but you're right. Should probably just make another thread. Btw, did we want to bother with money? |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconWell, our transformations and me using my moogle senses should cost a little something too Rikku. |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonAwwwww, noooooooooooooooooooooo. Can't it just be a skill? No MP involved? It's not like it ups Rikku's power in any way. |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconBy the way Rikku, you and Azure won't get that Carrot joke until you're both farther in FF12. It won't be a huge amount, calm down. But it's not exactly fair to have his cost something and our's cost nothing. Espescially joo, Rikku. But, my moogles senses Cost will be the Scan cost, since that's what it basically is. You can figure out how much Transform is, it's an actual ability anyways. |
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Midnight Cascade...I've beaten FF12 before...I just don' remember everything that happens o.o |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonBut my ability doesn't do anything...*cries* |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconYour ability let's you fight close up, which an Archer or a Ranger can't do. It let's you fly, which, once again, neither can do. Your abilty gives you all sorts of advantages, it wouldn't be at all fair if our transformations costed nothing. Not when you go back to human, but every time you go to an animal. Even if you don't, I'm gonna put a cost on mine. |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconAnd Azure, you got the Mark Carrot then? |
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Midnight CascadeI probably did, but on my first playthrough I never paid much attention to marks. That was probably a really dumbass thing for me to do. And, since my memory card got wiped by my cousin, I had to start all over.... |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonAlright alright. point made. I'll make it cost something. something very small. like 5 or maybe 10 mp...what cost are you doing Piau? |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonArtemis Diana Class: archer Lvl: 3 Exp: 450 Exp needed to level: 250 Ability Points: 0 Stats: HP(Health Points): 180 MP(Magic Points): 90 ATK-10 DEF-12 MDEF-13 BLOK-2 MBLOK-9 STR-11 M-9 VIT-18 SPD-15 Abilities: Berserk Updates: gained 2 levels, 6 AP, all stats increased 2 pts and HP and MP went up 20 pts as result of level up, spent 9 AP pts on Berserk |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconName: Lanis Lexis Class: Red Mage LVL: 3 EXP: 450 EXP until next: 250 AP: 3 Stats: HP: 110 MP: 170 ATK-5 DEF-10 MDEF-11 BLOK-5 MBLOK-13 M-19 VIT-11 SPD-11 Abilities: Transform, Aspir Updates: Gained 2 LVLs - Gained 6 AP - Stat increase by 2 - 6 AP used - Ability-Aspir mastered | #84 Apr 12th, 8:44pm . Edited Apr 29th, 10:14pm | |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonthankee piau! ^-^ |
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Midnight CascadeName: Crueger Blitzkrieg Class: Samurai Lv: 3 EXP: 450 Next Lv: 250 AP: 3 Stats HP: 130 MP: 30 Attack: 13 Def: 10 M. Def: 7 M. Block: 7 Magic: 3 Vitality: 13 Speed: 8 Abilities: Crescent Slash, Crescent Moon, Thunder Blade UPDATE: Bought Thunder Blade skill for 6 AP on 4/15. 3 AP remain. | #86 Apr 14th, 2:57pm . Edited Apr 15th, 1:56pm | |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonthank you Azu-kun, but I think you messed up on something...you should have a total of 9 AP unless you chose to spend some of it. And, seeing as you did not spend it on abilities, then you should still have it (unless you spent it on stats, in which I didn't check). Also, you need to have an updates section at the end so the other players know what changed between your last status update and now (eg. lvl + 2, stats + 2, gain exp, +6 AP, spent X AP on Y - that kind of thing.) This is so we'll have the stats for the next battle; so please look over your mistakes. |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconDon't cover it Rikku, he didn't do a damn thing. He's been avoiding and when he does finally do something, it's basically nothing. If he doesn't care, then fuck it, I guess we're all done here. |
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Midnight CascadePiau, shut up. Yes, I was being lazy, but the AP thing was just a memory lapse on my part. I was skipping around on what I was typing and had typed in Lv3, then went to AP and somehow ended up typing a 3 instead of a 9. And, like I said above, a simple memory lapse with the 3 AP thing, sorry. I'll fix it, and include the update section. I'm probably about to go to the AP store to buy a spell. | #89 Apr 15th, 1:50pm . Edited Apr 15th, 1:57pm | |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonThat was a bit harsh Piau. People make mistakes, kay? but it looks like we're all set to come up with new story ideas now to transition our characters from where they are now to the next fight. and let's at least try and get along, kay? |
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Midnight CascadeSorry, that was my fault too. Getting angry over nothing. Let's just continue the Flickr Forest RP, and see where that takes us. |
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Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon*grins* Hey, I aim for results, not empathy. *pat Azure* He's okay, he knows he's just easily...maneuvered...whatever the word I'm trying to think is... |
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Rikku the bluefirevixonmanipulated? molded? like putty? made a bitch of someone? |
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Piaugerieque CattibreovoconYeah, the second and third one. *nods* |
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