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Rikku the bluefirevixon
yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm looking online, but I can't seem to find anything consistent.
#51 Mar 10th, 8:07pm
Midnight Cascade
Alright. If you come up with anything, tell me.

Edit: I'ma lock up the Flickr Forest thing until we get this sorted out.

#52 Mar 10th, 8:08pm . Edited Mar 10th, 8:14pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon
I found one...but it's WAAAAAY to complicated.

I still say we just do ATK divided by DEF multiplied by 2 and move the decimal space one to the...right?

#53 Mar 12th, 5:36pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Should we just get rid of the bloks and just stick with def?
#54 Mar 12th, 7:12pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon
Eh? Blok and Def have nothing to with each other. BLOK is blocking and evading, really has a lot to do with speed. DEF is just the measure of how much the ATK affects you. Why with the BLOK hate Rikku?
#55 Mar 12th, 8:39pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
I'm just confused as to how all this affects damage...
#56 Mar 12th, 9:00pm
Midnight Cascade
I guess we can do Piau's idea, but everyone would need a calculator. THEN AGAIN, every computer comes equipped with a calculator....
#57 Mar 13th, 1:49pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Alright that's fine.
#58 Mar 13th, 3:33pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Oh, and will BLOKs just be used to consider evasion?
#59 Mar 13th, 3:35pm
Midnight Cascade
I guess so. You guys can unlock the Flickr Forest topic when you want to.
#60 Mar 13th, 4:38pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon
Yeah it will Rikku.
#61 Mar 13th, 5:41pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Hey, just so you guys know, I'm going to be out of town on my spring break from March 14-22, which is this friday night to a week from saturday night. I don't know that I'll have any internet where I'm going, and even if I do, I probably won't be on much.
#62 Mar 13th, 6:53pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Oh and what's strength in comparison to attack?
#63 Mar 13th, 6:58pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon
...yeah, that one's kinda pointless here. We can skimp STR.
#64 Mar 13th, 7:10pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
you know, I was just thinking, shouldn't different magic attacks have different strengths? Particularly when comparing -ra's to -aga's.
#65 Mar 23rd, 4:16pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
so should we claim an end to the fight and give us all the exp points?
#66 Mar 25th, 8:43pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon
Artemis Diana

Class: archer

Lvl: 1

Exp: 50

Exp needed to level: 50

Ability Points: 3

Stats:

HP(Health Points): 160

MP(Magic Points): 70

ATK-8

DEF-10

MDEF-11

BLOK-0

MBLOK-7

STR-9

M-7

VIT-16

SPD-13

Abilities: none

Updates: additional exp and aps

#67 Mar 25th, 8:53pm . Edited Mar 25th, 8:55pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

Okay, percentages:

for magic and phys attacks, we can keep doing it how we are for the most part. But with spells like cure, then percentages would probably be the easiest way to do it, and I think that's how healing things work in the games. So like, cure could renew 35% of your max HP (so if your max HP is 100, and you're down to 40 HP, then cure would bring it up to 75), cura could renew 50%, and curaga renew 70% ((these numbers do not have to be used, this is just an example)).

For skill attacks, like your crescent moon, then each of the attacks can be assigned a damage percentage. Like, each blow from that attack would cause x% of the max HP in dmg ((so, if a skill attack did 30% damage, and the max HP of the foe is 100, then each time the foe was hit with the attack, then it would lose 30HP)). And the percentages can be assigned individually per skill depending on how strong it is.

Percentages can also be used for increasing the attack strength of more powerful magic spells. Like, we use our equation for a level 1 spell like fire, but maybe for fira, we could increase the attack that the formula generates by a certain percentage, and then increase it by an even higher percentage for firaga.

AND, for weaknesses, then we would use our normal equation to calculate damage, but then if the foe had a weakness to that kind of an attack, then they would lose an additional percentage of dmg. So, like the Ochu is weak towards fire. So if it's hit with a fire attack, then you would calculate the damage (let's just use 100), and then because it's weak towards fire it could lose an additional 40% from the attack, making it lose 140 HP instead.

The time-consuming part would be assigning official percentages to everything, but once that was done, I think we can more accurately calculate damage and healing for magic and skills and stuff. And since we already are calculating damage, using percentages would not be any more time consuming when calculating the damage, and I'm pretty sure it's math everyone can handle.

If you guys like the idea, then I could work on assigning percentages if you like. :)

#68 Mar 28th, 10:23pm
Midnight Cascade

I like the idea, though it's a bit difficult to understand. And, for the weakness part, you can just multiply the damage by 1.5. Like, Ochu is weak to fire like you said, let's say someone used fire on it and cause 100 damage. It'd cause 150 damage since it's weak.

Also, we need to get this forum in order lol We need to start editting posts and stuff, like the rules topic and such.

#69 Mar 28th, 11:13pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

I'm editing the how fighting and leveling works thing as we come up with new stuff.

I like the idea of 1.5 for weaknesses, we can use that.

And the concept of percentages may be difficult to grasp, but I think once they're applied it won't be as difficult as you think. Should I go ahead and start coming up with percentages for the attacks? (I'd edit the post in the AP Store)

#70 Mar 29th, 8:31am
Midnight Cascade

Yeah, go ahead and do that. We need Piau here so we can continue the RP though ._.

#71 Mar 29th, 12:50pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

I'm not doing a thing till this is all sorted out. With all this we'll probably have to redo the whole Flickr Forest RP. AND, I think it's time to stop ignoring the Carrot in the room. We need to do items. Basic ones though.

#72 Mar 29th, 3:20pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

Well we have pretty much all of the attack stuff sorted out I think except Azu-kun's Crescent Moon thing.

Eh, technically we should redo the Flickr Forest RP, but I'm totally okay with not doing that. Let's just continue from this point on with what we've come up with. This is a learn as you go thing anyway, and it would be super annoying to redo something every time something has to be changed anyway. As long as no one in the party ends the battle dead, then it shouldn't make too big of a difference.

"carrot in the room" hadn't heard that one yet...but you're right. Should probably just make another thread. Btw, did we want to bother with money?

#73 Mar 29th, 4:33pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

Well, our transformations and me using my moogle senses should cost a little something too Rikku.

#74 Mar 29th, 8:22pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

Awwwww, noooooooooooooooooooooo. Can't it just be a skill? No MP involved? It's not like it ups Rikku's power in any way.

#75 Mar 30th, 6:49am
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

By the way Rikku, you and Azure won't get that Carrot joke until you're both farther in FF12.

It won't be a huge amount, calm down. But it's not exactly fair to have his cost something and our's cost nothing. Espescially joo, Rikku. But, my moogles senses Cost will be the Scan cost, since that's what it basically is. You can figure out how much Transform is, it's an actual ability anyways.

#76 Mar 30th, 11:15am
Midnight Cascade

...I've beaten FF12 before...I just don' remember everything that happens o.o

#77 Mar 30th, 6:21pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

But my ability doesn't do anything...*cries*

#78 Mar 30th, 8:02pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

Your ability let's you fight close up, which an Archer or a Ranger can't do. It let's you fly, which, once again, neither can do. Your abilty gives you all sorts of advantages, it wouldn't be at all fair if our transformations costed nothing. Not when you go back to human, but every time you go to an animal. Even if you don't, I'm gonna put a cost on mine.

#79 Mar 31st, 12:48pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

And Azure, you got the Mark Carrot then?

#80 Mar 31st, 12:48pm
Midnight Cascade

I probably did, but on my first playthrough I never paid much attention to marks. That was probably a really dumbass thing for me to do. And, since my memory card got wiped by my cousin, I had to start all over....

#81 Mar 31st, 2:29pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

Alright alright. point made. I'll make it cost something. something very small. like 5 or maybe 10 mp...what cost are you doing Piau?

#82 Mar 31st, 8:19pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

Artemis Diana

Class: archer

Lvl: 3

Exp: 450

Exp needed to level: 250

Ability Points: 0

Stats:

HP(Health Points): 180

MP(Magic Points): 90

ATK-10

DEF-12

MDEF-13

BLOK-2

MBLOK-9

STR-11

M-9

VIT-18

SPD-15

Abilities: Berserk

Updates: gained 2 levels, 6 AP, all stats increased 2 pts and HP and MP went up 20 pts as result of level up, spent 9 AP pts on Berserk

#83 Apr 08th, 8:14pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

Name: Lanis Lexis

Class: Red Mage

LVL: 3

EXP: 450

EXP until next: 250

AP: 3

Stats:

HP: 110

MP: 170

ATK-5

DEF-10

MDEF-11

BLOK-5

MBLOK-13

M-19

VIT-11

SPD-11

Abilities: Transform, Aspir

Updates: Gained 2 LVLs - Gained 6 AP - Stat increase by 2 - 6 AP used - Ability-Aspir mastered

#84 Apr 12th, 8:44pm . Edited Apr 29th, 10:14pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

thankee piau! ^-^

#85 Apr 12th, 8:57pm
Midnight Cascade

Name: Crueger Blitzkrieg

Class: Samurai

Lv: 3

EXP: 450

Next Lv: 250

AP: 3

Stats

HP: 130

MP: 30

Attack: 13

Def: 10

M. Def: 7

M. Block: 7

Magic: 3

Vitality: 13

Speed: 8

Abilities: Crescent Slash, Crescent Moon, Thunder Blade

UPDATE: Bought Thunder Blade skill for 6 AP on 4/15. 3 AP remain.

#86 Apr 14th, 2:57pm . Edited Apr 15th, 1:56pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

thank you Azu-kun, but I think you messed up on something...you should have a total of 9 AP unless you chose to spend some of it. And, seeing as you did not spend it on abilities, then you should still have it (unless you spent it on stats, in which I didn't check). Also, you need to have an updates section at the end so the other players know what changed between your last status update and now (eg. lvl + 2, stats + 2, gain exp, +6 AP, spent X AP on Y - that kind of thing.) This is so we'll have the stats for the next battle; so please look over your mistakes.

#87 Apr 14th, 9:30pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

Don't cover it Rikku, he didn't do a damn thing. He's been avoiding and when he does finally do something, it's basically nothing. If he doesn't care, then fuck it, I guess we're all done here.

#88 Apr 15th, 1:16pm
Midnight Cascade

Piau, shut up. Yes, I was being lazy, but the AP thing was just a memory lapse on my part. I was skipping around on what I was typing and had typed in Lv3, then went to AP and somehow ended up typing a 3 instead of a 9.

And, like I said above, a simple memory lapse with the 3 AP thing, sorry. I'll fix it, and include the update section. I'm probably about to go to the AP store to buy a spell.

#89 Apr 15th, 1:50pm . Edited Apr 15th, 1:57pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

That was a bit harsh Piau. People make mistakes, kay?

but it looks like we're all set to come up with new story ideas now to transition our characters from where they are now to the next fight. and let's at least try and get along, kay?

#90 Apr 15th, 7:10pm
Midnight Cascade

Sorry, that was my fault too. Getting angry over nothing.

Let's just continue the Flickr Forest RP, and see where that takes us.

#91 Apr 16th, 1:43pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

*grins* Hey, I aim for results, not empathy. *pat Azure* He's okay, he knows he's just easily...maneuvered...whatever the word I'm trying to think is...

#92 Apr 16th, 4:35pm
Rikku the bluefirevixon

manipulated? molded? like putty? made a bitch of someone?

#93 Apr 16th, 6:20pm
Piaugerieque Cattibreovocon

Yeah, the second and third one. *nods*

#94 Apr 16th, 6:56pm


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