Tolkien decided that ecoterrorism was the job of the ecosystem itself.

Yes, he had the Huorns for that.

Now, I've had Thranduil, who can be pretty scary under the right circumstances, dealing out some rough justice. but no blood was spilled.

I wasn't really expecting a reply. Upon a close reading, I found the thing that annoyed me the most -- her assertion that Elves do not rise above grief the way mortals do, and that they will simply die of it or sail. Oh come now! Are these the same beings who fought Morgoth for an Age and endured tortures in Angband? I think they're a little tougher than that.

Yes, I was irritated by that as well. I just think she has no idea about the history of Middle Earth other than for what fan websites spew out. It upset me the most that she wrote that there is no grief in the Blessed Lands. The whole history of the Noldor is marred by grief that started there!! The death of Miriel, the slaughtering of Finwë, the poisoning and felling of the trees, the oath of Fëanor, the doom of Mandos.

Just for fun, I decided to go through the LOTR fandom and see if some things often complained about on this site have any basis in reality.

A few sample statistics:

Total stories written in English: 40,028.

Of these, 10,575 are romances. Of these, 4,554 involve Legolas as a named character. 2,026 involved Aragorn. Note: 1,025 of these overlapped. I found this most peculiar.

Of the total stories written in English, 10,625 involve Legolas as a main named character. Total with Aragorn: 7,530. It should be noted that 3,619 of these overlapped.

Out of the total, the number involving Arwen was 1,744. Total with Eowyn: 1,634. Total overlap: 39.

You may draw your own conclusions.

Oh well, Legolas became popular after the movies and Orlando Bloom in a blond wig stole every teenager's breath away. I am pretty sure two thirds of those stories are based on the movies rather than in the books.

About Eowyn and Arwen, it may be that those stories are centered in Gondor, or it may be femmslash. Who knows?

About Eowyn and Arwen, it may be that those stories are centered in Gondor, or it may be femmslash. Who knows?

I mostly included the overlap there for completion purposes.

It was just a throw away comment.

Just thought some clarification might be in order for anyone else who reads it.

Sure...

???

I've come to realise more and more that there is no right or wrong in writing, only different ways which may work or not. But that might be a topic for another tread.

We have one, it's called "Rules? More like guidelines"

Over 4000 Legolas romances? My, the guy certainly gets around.

Of these, 10,575 are romances. Of these, 4,554 involve Legolas as a named character. 2,026 involved Aragorn. Note: 1,025 of these overlapped. I found this most peculiar.

*snicker*

Of course, the way the character list on FFN is set up, it could merely involve Aragorn giving romantic advice about Legolas's courting of an OFC. That must be it. )

Of the total stories written in English, 10,625 involve Legolas as a main named character. Total with Aragorn: 7,530. It should be noted that 3,619 of these overlapped.

Not surprising. Just out of curiosity, what are the statistics on Frodo?

Over 4000 Legolas romances? My, the guy certainly gets around.

That lembas has Viagra in it, don't you know? :P

And poor old Gimli never gets any! Maybe you ought to have a Gimli romance as a story-challenge?

Yes, the Dwarf gets nowt! Somehow, really short, hairy men fail to float the ladies' boats. Excellent idea for a challenge!

Yes, the Dwarf gets nowt! Somehow, really short, hairy men fail to float the ladies' boats. Excellent idea for a challenge!

LOL! Erm... actually... well... I am just saying... Latinos, Italians, Greeks and Turks are short and hairy. They have their own brand of appeal.

I am just saying... Latinos, Italians, Greeks and Turks are short and hairy. They have their own brand of appeal.

Yes, a robust libido. LOL Much to be said for that.

Speaking of which, I'm watching with some amusement the discussions about casting The Hobbit --Thranduil in particular. One actor is said to be 'too square-jawed'. We're talking a very good-looking man, not that stevedore type who got cast to play Gil-galad. Would someone tell me what it is with the women liking pouty-boys?

Speaking of which, I'm watching with some amusement the discussions about casting The Hobbit --Thranduil in particular. One actor is said to be 'too square-jawed'. We're talking a very good-looking man, not that stevedore type who got cast to play Gil-galad. Would someone tell me what it is with the women liking pouty-boys?

Pouty boys? My type of men are either huge Viking looking men that make me look like a little doll or the dark haired, pale skinned, willowy Slavs. Oh, and North African Black Men (if you see a trend of above average height, you are right. I don't think I've ever been interested in someone short).

Yes, a robust libido. LOL Much to be said for that.

I was going to say they are usually very passionate about things, I am not sure about the other...

Just out of curiosity, what are the statistics on Frodo?

Just give me a second...

For the sake of comparison, I added in Sam.

3,727 English-language stories involved Frodo. 2,115 involved Sam. 1,514 of these overlapped

683 stories were romances involving Frodo. 493 were romances involving Sam. Of these, 370 overlapped.

Rosie must be ticked.

683 stories were romances involving Frodo. 493 were romances involving Sam. Of these, 370 overlapped.

Rosie must be ticked.

That both characters are listed for the fic does not necessarily mean they are in a romantic relationship, just that they are the two main characters. My friend Linda Hoyland has a lot of fics labelled Aragorn & Faramir, because they're set in post-war Gondor and king and steward are dealing with various challenging situations.

Yes, but there *was* that thing about the closeness of Sam and Frodo, you know... ;P

I looked up Gimli and Galadriel under a Romance filter. I found about ten to twelve stories. I don't know, this *is* the one canonical hint at a (hetero) Gimli romance we have, even if it's just one-sided and platonic in the book, and nearly nobody seems to jump on it.

Yes, but there *was* that thing about the closeness of Sam and Frodo, you know... ;P

I'm not saying there wasn't, I'm just saying the filter doesn't distinguish between friendship and romance.

Virtuella has a good point. Even if the story is labeled romance, it is not necessarily the two characters listed that are the couple. There are also a lot of stories with original characters as the romantic interest, and they would not show up on the filter. I do not deny that there is a lot of slash out there, but a simple search would not give definitive numbers for which story is which.

Can I not make a joke once in a while?

Can I not make a joke once in a while?

I don't know. Can you not?

No. Never.

Come on, Mili. You should know that!

Thereby explaining soooo much about how this forum operates. (grins)

Are you grinning?

HOW DARE YOU

A thought. It has been suggested that possibly once in Mordor, Frodo and Sam made it to Mount Doom a little too easily. It only consisted of 3 chapters after all for such a momentous journey. So, if I was to suggest another adventure or incident to happen to them on the way to increase their dangers anyone have any ideas as to what this could be?

So, if I was to suggest another adventure or incident to happen to them on the way to increase their dangers anyone have any ideas as to what this could be?

Before Mordor it could be anything but once they're in Mordor it's all orcs, orcs, and more orcs.

Besides, they got lost, captured, almost discovered, almost eaten by a spider, captured again, tempted by the ring, almost discovered again, had to stumble up a mountain with a ring that weighed more than the two of them combined, had to fight Gollum again, got taken over by the ring, narrowly escaped dying in the ensuing cataclysm. You call that easy? lol

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