Zidane/Kuja's never done anything for me. Not that I have anything against slash; I just can't see it happening. Even with Garnet out of the picture, I doubt Kuja swings that way. Even though he's the girliest character in FF, I can't picture him as gay. As for Zidane, maybe for experimental purposes he'd try it...! Heh heh.

I imagine he could manipulate her by apealing to her competitive side. Or offering her the chance to realy test her skills. Of course youd have to find some reason for him to want to in the first place; I don't think he would ever admit to needing anyone elses help.

Perhaps it could start as a diversion, or him prooveing his own control over even the most strong of people and then inevitably it would tangle and backfire for him.

Hey, you could even do a love triangle by including Steiner. Just a personal opinion but I kind of see Beatrix as having two oposing drives. One caring and intencely duty bound, the other firey and so hungry for new horizons its acctualy kind of melancholy that the word isn't more exciteing.

Err I hope that makes sence. But anyway. One side leads to Stiener the other Kuja. What's a girl to do?

Oh dear, I just mused all that up on the spot, I think it shows.

And in the case of slash I find the idea of Kuja paired with a girl much more intreaguing, dunno why, perhaps because its less obvious. Your last comment about Zidane feels dead on though heh heh.

As for myself, kinda recently the idea of Mikoto/Kuja occured to me and I can't seem to get it to leave me alone.

Her final coments at the end of the game about how what he did was wrong but it broke a tough mold and gave them all hope in life.

It kind of strikes me that they are opposites. Kuja viciously clawing at life, and Mikoto highly resolved, and almost beconing death.

I imagine that they would begin disslikeing one another. Kuja would find Mikoto's lack of self assertion disgusting as it threatens his own philosophy and likewise/reverced for Mikoto. Though I imagine she would be more open minded all be it in a negative way.

But then, perhaps a plot could be fashioned to bring the two together and have them ballance each other out, bringing them back from their respective edges of insanity.

Plus I'm a real sucker for a love/hate relationship.

What do you think? I find this couple to be in definate absence from the fandom, even opinions are hard to come by.

As for your observations on Kuja/Beatrix, there's a lovely little ficlet out there that endeavours to explain why Beatrix was drawn to Kuja, and why inetivably she opts for the "safe" option of Steiner (Sadly, I can't remember the author for the life of me). "Rose Trellis" by fyre byrd is another good one. And (shameless plug) my fic has just ventured into Kujatrix territory, though I'm not sure about my Kuja characterisation... Sure, his public appearance seems simple enough, but he's so much more beneath the feathers and fancy speeches. It's hard to write a manipulative, ambitious, deep thinking madman. When this character also happens to be shamelessly gaudy on first glance, it's even harder to portray him accurately. .

Kuja/Mikoto? Sorry to say I can't see this one either. Post-game, Kuja would be depressed enough with his "I-nearly-killed-you-all" schpiel and Mikoto would lack the emotional capacity to deal with him. Mikoto wouldn't be able to empathise. I think it *may* possibly be okay if you had a third main character in there, someone to drag Kuja out of his self-pity or to teach Mikoto to laugh --

*clicks fingers* Ah, *that's* it! They both haven't learnt how to be happy. I see potential for the whole "finding out together" thing. But there still needs to be Zidane or someone in there to make sure the fic doesn't sink from over-angst.

But Aim, what you say about Kuja "visciously clawing at life" -- I have to agree wholeheartedly. I'd never considered that before, but now that you've pointed it out I can understand that Kuja would be able to draw out some sense of self in Mikoto, a lust for life etc.

Anyway, the most difficult would be portraying Kuja post-game. Like you said the guy is hard enough to portray as is. But seriously just how big was his revalation at the end? He realizes what it means to live. So how much does he change? How much does his personality change?

Personaly I hate reformed villains. It's like people asume once reformed they have to start from scratch, like little baybies, a process that for me personaly mutilates charicterization.

Why would an epiphany about the nature of living change a guy completely? Key word being completely.

We don't get to see much of Kuja at the end of the game but from what he does say it seems he is prepared to die, and feels he has no purpose in the light of his new found understanding. Not supprising seeing as his previous purpose was to destroy everything and everyone in the name of selfishness.

Still, you can't take the mad out of the madman. I don't think it's Kuja's nature to be depressed,or sulky. I think he would swing from one vendeta straight into another.

I like the idea of a post game Kuja, rushing about just as narcissistic and determined to proove his worth by exhibiting all his skills (often with lack of moral ground) like being a driving force behind creating and expanding a country for the mages and genomes. I can just immagine him getting all fiesty and political with the rest of Gaia, with whom the genomes and mages would have trouble blending.

Not out of Altruism of course, but returning to Kuja's drive to live and impact etc. I dunno,something like that.

And perhaps just to top things off, he could be planning to sacrifice his own life or something. (out of repressed guilt) But on the surrface as some kind of impressive specticle, or the iceing on the cake of his vendetta.

I've been musing on this a bit lately. And I'm afraid I'm gonna have to do a shameless plug too.

Cuz I designed a post game outfit for Kuja! It's on my new DeviantArt account. I made it reminicent of Zidane's but obviously more ostentatious. I kept the purple but made it more stormy and my favorite feature is a belt that has several straps hanging down that both acctentuate and camoflage his tail that he concieled before.

Gosh, that realy was shameless. Oh well, I guess you can tell I love drawing.

I really don't see the whole Kuja/Mikoto thing cause they're kinda SIBLINGS!! EEEEEEEEW!!!

What about the Kuja/Hilda pairings? They've got some following.

Me? I see Kuja as more of a lone wolf type, y'know? But I don't mind Kuja/fan-made character stories.

P.S.: I love drawing too! ^_^

Besides it is my personal opinion that they are not siblings at all. They all simply came from the same planet and have the same purpose. Kuja calls Zidane brother as a way of twisting the knife. And Zidane says Mikoto is kinda like his little sister out of a desire to show he cares and to get her to open up. To which Mikoto responds 'How silly!'

Myshu wrote a nice Zidane/Mikoto called Tree of Life: Epilogue. Basically, it's about post-game Zidane's recovery from horrific experiences in the Iifa Tree (check out the prequel for the details). It's fairly long, but well worth the read if you're interested. I'll warn you though: the pairing doesn't come until midway to late in the fic.

About post-game Kuja: the one thing I can't see him as is a whiny, "woe-is-me" brat. I can see him as very temperamental, flying from one cause to another as he tries to find his place in life. And of course, every time something doesn't turn out his facade just cracks and he either goes crazy or into utter meltdown mode.

(Side note: Aim, I wish I had your art skills! Not sure why, but your Dragon Roost Island has to be my favourite. I've never seen fanart for those two characters before, and the idea of a dance is so sweet. *sigh* I love the Windwaker world...)

Kuja/Hilda I can't see. I get the impression whilst holding her as a hostage he did nothing but talk AT her. They were on a totaly different wavelenghth, the only thing that realy connected them was manners. Hilda also says it was dull. Imagine what Kuja would think of that! He he I could see humor in any kind of romance fanfic about them working in a really wierd way. The idea of them dosn't interest me much though.

And I agree Kuja is most naturaly characterized as a lone wolf. Its just that that fact makes the idea of who with or how romance could work intreagueing.

As for Original Characters. What kind of characteristics would you think they should have to make a good or interesting match?

(Lastly, I'm chuffed to bits that You liked my art Aqua Pheonix! You seem like a savy kinda person so your good opinion is most flattering. Funnily your favorite is mine also! It just seemed to come together right when I did it. I was a bit upset with how it uploaded though.)

As for Original Characters, what kind of characteristics would you think they should have to make a good or interesting match?

Well...It all depends on what kinda story you want. Me? I like cute love stories, so I think a quiet, less confident, younger girl would be a CUTE match(I'm actually planning a story like this ^_^)

For humor, POSSIBLY (key word) a more outgoing girl with a short attention span. (This because Kuja has that thing about talking for long periods of time. I, personally, don't mind it however.)

There are many other options to....What kinda person do YOU see Kuja with?

BTW: The biggest problem I see with a lot of Kuja pairings is that Kuja doesn't really seem to fit well with any of the game characters. That's why original characters work better in my opinion, but I'm almost afraid that people would match him with a female Kuja-clone.

Heh, I'm hardly an accomplished artist but like most, I can appreciate a well-drawn picture. When I was younger I used to sketch, but I wasn't too good at it. As a result, my passions turned to writing. Nowadays if the mood takes me, I tend to scribble patterns or abstract things (because I'm hopeless with proportions!)

As for Original Characters. What kind of characteristics would you think they should have to make a good or interesting match?

I'm always a fan of the "opposites attract" theory, though you have to set some limits. I mean, I can't see Steiner getting it off with Vivi... (Urgh, that was a disturbing notion. Why can't my imagination be normal?)

In Kuja's case, it's extra hard because we've already established what a complex person he is. There's the superficial side of him -- I'm sure he'd enjoy a "dumb blonde" figure who'd hand on his every gesture/word. However, I also think he'd get bored with that relationship quickly. He seems to have little tolerance for stupid people, and the novelty would wear off within moments.

Post-game, I think he'd pair well with a character who's (personality-wise) a mix of Vivi (or maybe Freya) and Zidane. He needs someone who's been in his position and has overcome enormous obstacles in life, someone who's started over and is making something of themselves, even if it's not always easy. However, I think these wounds should be hidden under a facade of cheerfulness so the character can drag Kuja out of his depression and can teach him to enjoy life. We know Kuja *wants* to enjoy life -- he practically says so in the end -- but he needs a teacher.

In-game, I can see the quieter girl working. Being a good observer, someone who stays away from the crowd and familiarises herself with people's mannerisms etc., she'd be able to perceive Kuja's inner self. Maybe a chance encounter would see her bold enough to approach him or whatnot.

Also, on Terra, Zidane refers to his troubles as a "family matter."

Again, I thought this was just a Zidane quirk. What does Garland actually say? I can remember him referring to Zidane and Kuja as brothers, but I don't think he mentioned Mikoto at all.

The biggest problem I see with a lot of Kuja pairings is that Kuja doesn't really seem to fit well with any of the game characters.

Yeah, I think that sums up my feelings pretty well.

1. I love Kuja. But not with her.

2. Steiner took her at the end of the game

3. Can't see it. But I have to give a reason-or else it wouldn't be fair.

Kuja is a power hungry man, and beatrix is a powerful woman. The thing is-if they were to start a relationship-then it would always be neck to neck, fighting, arguing, breaking up. Therefore, it just wouldn't happen. And besides, with Steiner charming her this way and that, she bound to fall his way no matter what.

Just my opinion.

Kuja I think goes best with Mikoto or with made up characters at that.

I totaleh skimmed all of that. But I gathered some info...

Kuja and Beatrix... nope. Nope. Nope. Personally, I can't see it. Yes, they are similar in their struggle to be the best... But I think it is exactly that that would make them hate each other. I can't even see a love- hate relationship. I see a "don't talk to me" relationship. I don't think they speak to each other unless they have to. Then again Kuja is a big mouth. So he probably went on and on to beatrix while she rolled her eyes and prayed that he would go away. I also see Beatrix being attractive to physically tough guys... I do not know why. As for Kuja... I don't know who or what that crazy guy is attracted to. He is a puzzle to me.

I already voiced my opinion about Garnet/Kuja on the Gernat/Kuja topic.

Kuja/Mikoto... Well the brother and sister thing would annoy the hell out of me... But I just don't think Kuja would be interested in the exact thing he tried to escape from. It would bring up too much from his past. And she has nothing to redeem it. Shes so robotic. No personality. Nothing particularly stunning.

Kuja/ Zidane. I somehow like this pairing. But it would so not work. But it makes for a cute fic. And somehow its believable. I think Zidane has what it takes to woo Kuja... just that whole brother thing and destroying his girl friends hometown thing and the fact that he HAS a girlfriend and appears to be straight... Not happening. Tho Im sure Kuja is appealing. That guy could get any guy if he wanted.

Kuja/Hilda. I like that pairing... I dont think its entirely impossible. Atleast not for lust.

Kuja/Ruby. Lol. They both like drama...

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