Hello everyone! I am Silver Kitsune Lunara but everyone can call me Kitsu-chan. It's odd that this is the first Ultimo forum even though I found that the manga is pretty awesome.

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So here's the first topic.

My favorite character so far is Ultimo. He is such a cutie even though he does look a girl a little bit. So what it is your favorite character?

Hi! I'm Kiisu, and I'm obsessed with Karakuridouji Ultimo. xD (I'm a Takei fangirl...)

My favorite character is Ultimo... I just love everything about him, even the fact he kind of looks like a girl (after all, I love traps XD). He's an awesome character.

I love Yamato (he's too funny) and Lune, too... Specially Lune. I don't exactly know why, but I like him a lot.

Hello Kiisu! Nice to meet you. You're the first to come and drop a post so a gold star to you. I would give you an Ultimo plush but I can't push it through the screen. T-T

I really don't have a reason or a true reason to like my favorite characters but I love them a lot for some reason.

Like the others as well but ultimo stands above the list though. Vice is okay but there is something about him that sends a warnig message through my system. He is the ultimate evil so that explains most of it but even though if he wasn't he would still be some one to stay away from.

I can't wait for more chapters. I'm dying to know more about the world of Karakuridouji Ultimo.

Thnaks for popsting Kiisu. You made my day!

The pleasure is mine. ^^

And I agree with you... I really like Vice, his malice amuses me, but I'm waiting for him to do something else besides "being evil"... I mean... If he made some 'smart' comments from time to time, it would be nice.

Jealous is a really interesting character, too.

And yes, I'm going crazy while I wait for more chapters. XD

I'm sorry if my English is wrong, by the way. ^^U

Hi! I was actually kinda the one who suggested the "Ultimo" to be a category here, ^^ I LOVED "Shaman King" by Hiroyuki Takei, haha, so I'm really hoping this new manga (even if it's just his art style, but his art style is great, so yeah!) will be very good too! Well, I'm not really "obsessed" with it or anything like that since it only just started, XD; but I admit the story has me intrigued, and I requested the category thinking maybe there could be some good fanfics for it later anyway =D I can't wait for the next chapter anyway!

I found the first (second?...) chapter, Chapter 1, that was in last month's Shonen Jump to be very interesting! I really want to know more about Yamato, Lune (Rune?) and Sayama. And Ultimo & Vice too of course =) But I'm really interested in the "human" characters. I wonder if they were reborn/reincarnated somehow? Because they existed in the past and in the present of the story, from what it seemed anyway? ^^;

I also wonder if Yamato remembers Ultimo or not?

Well anyway... hi, I'm Hikari! I'm hoping this manga will be good, heh ^^ I'm glad it got a section here on FFN! I'm actually kind of surprised that it was added so quickly, I had only just requested it (and another section) yesterday. XD; I'm glad it was added though! It will be interesting to see fanfics for this series later if the story gets really good! =)

~Hikari ^^

...Wait, it already had a section here? Am I going crazy because I didn't see it here before, haha? XDD;;...

Oops! Well anyway, maybe I was wrong then haha. I could have sworn it wasn't there before though o_o;;; Oh well, just ignore that then heh! I'm still surprised it has a section now though so yeah XDD But yeah, I am pretty intrigued by Ultimo ^^ I do hope the story will get more interesting anyway! ~a very confused Hikari XD;;

Um, ok, I have to ask heh, did Ultimo have a section here before yesterday? (confused!) XDD; Well anyway... at least it has a section now, heh! =)

It's good to have you Hikari. Thank you for showing up.

To answer your question Hikari, no! I posted this forum on June 9th and Ultimo, fanfic section and forum section, has been up since sometime February, maybe even longer.

I had problems finding Ultimo as well so I can't truly blame you for your problems. One of the many reasons that I created this forum is because of that, in a sense, and that there wasn't really no forum for this section.

I found the first (second?...) chapter, Chapter 1, that was in last month's Shonen Jump to be very interesting! I really want to know more about Yamato, Lune (Rune?) and Sayama. And Ultimo & Vice too of course =) But I'm really interested in the "human" characters. I wonder if they were reborn/reincarnated somehow? Because they existed in the past and in the present of the story, from what it seemed anyway? ^^;

Good point! I, personly, think that they did get reincarnated because Yamato said Ultimo's name when he saw him in the glass case in the store. But then again there's the possiblity that he saw Ultimo fighting Vice in the city before the story went back in time or saw it some how on TV because someone might have video taped the whole battle. Either thing could have happened but Yamato does look alot like the one in the past and even has his name. Then again he could have the previous Yamato has an ancester and some some how got the same name as well. Lune and Sayama also had younger versions of themselves in the past as well but then again we just have to wait to see what it's all about don't we?

Kisu, your English is very good. I didn't notice that you are from another nationallity (Spelling) untill you said something about it. ^-^ You seem to be doing very well.

I have to agree with both of you about the things you brought up. Ultimo seems to be a hit or at least, is going to be. I so wish that the chapters would be posted more quickly because the whole thing has got my intrest and I can't wait for more.

Well, gotta go!

Kitsu-chan

To answer your question Hikari, no! I posted this forum on June 9th and Ultimo, fanfic section and forum section, has been up since sometime February, maybe even longer.

I had problems finding Ultimo as well so I can't truly blame you for your problems.

Oh, okay! Thanks for letting me know! I was just really surprised to see that a section was here already, haha ^_^ I searched for one before but didn't find any, so I submitted it as a new category to FFN... then I found the category here a day later but apparently it was ALREADY here before? I wonder how I didn't see it though, lol XD; Well, at least it has a section now! :) There aren't that many fics though yet... well it's understandable though XD; But, hopefully it will get more (better?) fanfics soon when there's more chapters! :)

Good point! I, personly, think that they did get reincarnated because Yamato said Ultimo's name when he saw him in the glass case in the store. But then again there's the possiblity that he saw Ultimo fighting Vice in the city before the story went back in time or saw it some how on TV because someone might have video taped the whole battle.

^That's what I had thought of too! That he might have seen it on TV or something, haha. But it seems that wasn't quite the actual reason why - lol...

Anyway, there was another new chapter with the Shonen Jump I just got this week! (I am a subscriber to it so I get the magazine about a week before it's in stores, since subscribers get it early) ^^ Have you all here read it yet? Or not yet? It did explain some things and there was a bit of cool action parts too :)

But what really intrigued me the most was Ultimo apparently knew Yamato well in the past lol. That was surprising to learn - but I guess it's because Ultimo could have decided to join forces with the "past selves" to stop Vice? Seems Yamato doesn't remember him though lol. Poor Ultimo ^^;; -is trying not to spoil it too much btw! There's more to it too- XD;

What also intrigued me was Yamato and Rune/Lune (still not sure about his name? lol) also apparently seem to know each other quite well, as they were both saying lol. Rune seemed very concerned about everything that was going on with Yamato and Ultimo all of a sudden too (well, I guess that's obvious why haha since they're friends, but yeah? I guess you'll see when you read it?) XD; Yamato also apparently has a crush on Sayama, lol (well that was obvious too kinda?) XDD;;

Well... I won't say any more for now haha, I hope you can read the new chapter soon! ^_^ Sigh... it's so long waiting a month in between chapters though! SJ only had one new chapter this month... XDD;; oh well?

~Hikari

Sorry for not replying in like ages. Life sucks! T-T

I have been re-reading Ultimo chapters on onemanga.com and found it so much fun to read.

So what are your recent thoughts on the new chapters. Is it me or does Ultimo turn a 180 in personality?

Hi there!

I don't really think he has changed... I always knew he would go yandere if someone messed with Yamato. XD

This doesn't mean I wasn't scared ast hell at him, though. It was so epic and creepy at the same time♥.

Anyway, there's a community at LJ where we share our opinions about Ultimo: http://community.livejournal.com/mech_boy_ultimo/

Join us! We need more active people and less lurkers. XD

Hello! ^-^

I don't really think he has changed... I always knew he would go yandere if someone messed with Yamato. XD

This doesn't mean I wasn't scared as hell at him, though. It was so epic and creepy at the same time♥.

Point, point! For some reason I thought he did, it must have how he reacted to Envy/Jealousy. It was plain scary. But it was cool though. I didn't figure he would go that far though because he was good and all but I should have figured that he would become protictive around Yamato because Yamato was in danger.

Note to self: Don't mess around with Yamato like Envy did, unless I want to have my butt handed to me by a sexy red headed Doji boy named Ultimo. Then again I might enjoy that because it WAS Ultimo. If it was one of the others, I wouldn't waste the time to get on their bad side.

Anyway, there's a community at LJ where we share our opinions about Ultimo: http://community.livejournal.com/mech_boy_ultimo/

Join us! We need more active people and less lurkers. XD

Hey! That sounds good. I would love to join and try to be an active member than being a lurker. No one like lurkers.

So what are your thoughts on the 100 machine war and the new Doji. I think Jealous was cool to an extent but I didn't like him all that much and then the tiny one was sooo CUTE! I don't know why but I do. Patience reminds me of Yu on D.Gray-Man for some reason.

Is it me or are the Doji introduced so far guys? I could have missed one of them being a girl Doji but they all seemed to be guys.

The 100 Machine War makes me think this manga is going to be very VERY long. xDD

Jealous is amazing. I like Regula and Pardone, too, but I especially adore Jealous.

Yes, all the karakuri douji so far are boys. I love traps XD, but it would be nice if there were some female robots, too. :B

Yeah, you're right! It's going to be long but the way the story is told, I wouldn't mind reading a long story. It rocks so it works. ^0^

I'm sure all the Doji are amazing but it's their individual treats that makes us pick our absolute favorite out of all of them. You love Jealous and I love Ultimo but it's good because they both are part of a very epic story.

I wonder how long it would take the animators in Japan to produce Ulitmo into an anime? It would be sweet. I wonder who would be the voice actors and so on.

The male Doji are down right sexy. I'm sure that the female Doji would be down right adorable. I wonder if the people behind Ultimo thought of female Doji or just thought, "Hey let's make them all guys!"

I don't know but I guess we have to wait and see.

Maybe I should do an Ultimo story with female Doji then again I have been thinking of doing a story about Ultimo somehow getting a baby doji girl that looks like him except with long hair in pig-tails. The concept in itself is cute because of that and the girl calling him papa and tagging along behind him. Then again seeing the picture of a foot tall chibi Utilmo-look-alike Doji tripping over her giant hands just makes me go 'Aww' because of the cuteness.

Yep, random weirdness.

Heya~ I'm Pachi!

Firstly, Rune is my favorite character from the series right now. As of the chapter 9 raws, that's part of it(but I won't post because of spoilers and such). I love most of the characters right now XD

Also, I would like to say I have a problem with rule number five posted above:

"5) Post your opinion. It should be loved by all poeple so make sure it's it polite."

I don't understand that rule at all. It's an opinion- not everyone is going to like it because it's gonna conflict with their opinions. I agree with wording posts politely, but I don't understand how people with different views are going to love everyone's opinions. I know I don't love everyone's opinions.

I hope Ultimo is long- I need SOMETHING to keep me occupied and Soul Eater isn't gonna last forever XD

PLUS I love the art. YAY PRETTIES! And If it ended without everyone having a color scheme... well I'd have to hurt someone! 8D

I think they're working on the anime now- I read on wiki(yeah not reliable but still) that Lee was working with Japanese producers on an anime. Which I find epic win. I want. And I want character songs.

The guys are purely androgynous(minus manlehish Vice) and I love them for it. Keeps you guessing XD Though it makes me sad when people mix up genders XD Chapter 0 kinda set it that they were guys(I think it would've been flat if they were female).

"Maybe I should do an Ultimo story with female Doji then again I have been thinking of doing a story about Ultimo somehow getting a baby doji girl that looks like him except with long hair in pig-tails. The concept in itself is cute because of that and the girl calling him papa and tagging along behind him. Then again seeing the picture of a foot tall chibi Utilmo-look-alike Doji tripping over her giant hands just makes me go 'Aww' because of the cuteness."

HM. WHO WOULD BE THE DADDY? Or mommy. Whatev.

I'd be worried if I were tripping over giant hands *looks down at own* *thinks about douji hands* I would probably stab myself in the gut if I fell...

I can't offer much input there XD I don't fic with OC's anymore. I made an Ultimo OC but s/he* is for nothing more than fanart and practice drawing kids XD.

*Didn't assign a gender.

Hello, Pachi! How's it going?

Sorry for the long wait for my posting! T-T

I don't understand that rule at all. It's an opinion- not everyone is going to like it because it's gonna conflict with their opinions. I agree with wording posts politely, but I don't understand how people with different views are going to love everyone's opinions. I know I don't love everyone's opinions.

I guess I should have word that differently. I mean that every one should act like an adult and respect every ones opinion and talk about it in a civil manner. I've seen to many forums that have everyone act like two year old throwing a tantrum because some one said something that they didn't like. I understand that people normaly don't like different opinions and such but that doesn't give them the right to act like immature dumb-nut. If every one acts like an adult when talking about their opinions then I treat them like an adult and I'll be cool with it. But when conflicting opinions cause an all out war then I have no choice but to kick them off. I hope you understand the direction I'm coming from Pachi.

I think they're working on the anime now- I read on wiki(yeah not reliable but still) that Lee was working with Japanese producers on an anime. Which I find epic win. I want. And I want character songs.

I totally agree with you there Pachi. I hope they do it soon and that Wiki is reliable this time.

HM. WHO WOULD BE THE DADDY? Or mommy. Whatev.

I've been working around with two ideas about that.

1) Valkeri (spelling) Doji were created by the spirit of the earth to counter, stop and destory the other Doji created by the Doc. Something about them having some form of power from the power of nature and somehow stopping some of the Doji and destorying some of the others. Some of them doing something that pleases the spirit and she gave them spirits and the choice to raise a 'spiecal' child.

or

2) Hoping to give the Doji spirits, good will and to stop fighting the Mother Spirit gave each and every Doji a orb that contained a baby Doji. The baby doji would have some way of changing their 'parents' in some way.

The ideas are still in the works so at the moment they seem a little out streached.

I'd be worried if I were tripping over giant hands *looks down at own* *thinks about douji hands* I would probably stab myself in the gut if I fell...

Yeah true but normal gauntlets (spelling) don't do that type of thing and the doji gauntlets are aren't noramlly dangerous on their own unless their owners mean to inflect arm. Just think of them like hands incased in hard gloves that would cause a bruise or something on those lines.

I can't offer much input there XD I don't fic with OC's anymore. I made an Ultimo OC but s/he* is for nothing more than fanart and practice drawing kids XD.

I would love to see some of your art work, Pachi.

Hello everyone. I am a fan of Ultimo and have been enjoying his adventures with Yamato. The chapters have been well adapted into english and the ideas that come from it are very interesting. (Remember to subscribe to Shonen Jump to get your mitts on the newest chapters in America that you don't have to look at with a screen.)

The conflict of good and evil is non existant to me though. Good and evil were opinions created by humans that mask the true battle of players: Balance and Chaos.

The Doji are actually symbols of balance and Chaos; if you let one side reign, then balance will be destroyed and chaos shall ruin the world; nay, the universe itself.

The conflict of good and evil is non existant to me though. Good and evil were opinions created by humans that mask the true battle of players: Balance and Chaos.

The Doji are actually symbols of balance and Chaos; if you let one side reign, then balance will be destroyed and chaos shall ruin the world; nay, the universe itself.

I always thought that the Doji are the symbols of good and evil in a human heart which explains why they did human teachers to teach the true meaning of evil and good. I aways though the reason why the Dr. created them was to see which symbol proved better over the other and how many people sided on good or evil. People are born with the default setting of gray and turns black or white depending on the choices that the person makes in life. I think the Doji are influncing the actions of said people.

Well, that's my thought anyway.

Your statement is like darkness and light. One can't live without the other. No matter how much good fights and wins evil is aways waiting in the shadows.

Is it me or is evil and good different than Chaos and Balance?

Good and evil are the darkness or light in a human's heart while Balance and Chaos relates to the forces of nature.

I think I'm going in around and around with this but I don't really see the ties between the two subjects.

The Doji are meant to be in a conflict for all eternity, however if they are not then Chaos reigns. If one side wins, then chaos reigns in one way or another. Their everlasting struggle represents balance and how wer humans must live with good and evil in order to keep that balance.

Sorry for sounding like a retard in my previous post. Thank you for being cool about it though and fully explaining it to me.

Yep, explains why some of them are looking for Dr. Denstin, then again they fully explained it as well. Either I skipped over that page while reading it on the computor or wasn't fully understanding or something. Oh well.

it's alright it happens to the best of us.

Thanks for being so understanding, WrathofBalance.

Is it me or is this the only forum for Ultimo?

I know that Ultimo hasn't got alot of attention so far but I figured there would be at least two to three forums for the manga but then again there may not be alot of topics for Ultimo forums. I wouldn't mind having more topics on the existing forum but that's up to the users on fanfiction though.

That was a random rant though so it's up to debate if it should be continued by another person.

I still haven't gotton over the fact that Rune/Lune was a girl in a past life even though I should have guessed something though. I kinda figured he had a past life like Yamato but being a girl was something I didn't put much thought into. I think it's the fact that I was used to him being a male when the story started then having that 'female in past life' fact slapped into my face. It was like 'What the heck?'.

Yes, another random rant from me. I am sorry for that.

The problem is that Ultimo is a once a month series unlike it's other jump comics, it's released on Shonen Jump Monthly and thus comes out a little slower. However given time, and Ultimo could be fairly popular as long as it stays in the magazine.

Point! Point! Why do I continue to have these brain farts that make me mess the obvious?! God! Must be annoying!

So what would you and the others like to see in a fanfiction? I started typing an Ultimo fanfic and would like some plot feedback so I wouldn't do something that's old and boring. Not that there's at least 20 different plots that have been reused over the course of a hundred years or more. *Rolls eyes* I just figure, "Why not do something that hasn't really been used all that much and why not ask?" So, what's on your mind?

If you want the fic to last then I would suggest using only the Douji we know are in existence. However if you want to get some people to enjoy it right now, then reveal some new Douji.

Try making a fic based around the Good Douji Club and the Bad one instead of just Yamato. Try to keep the characters shadowed in mystery though, that helps build up suspense and gives you time while the new chapters come out.

Good suggestion! I'll try my best on it.

I also suggest doing only two chapters a month, it gives you a good amount of time so you don't have to completely break the laws of the Mangaverse. However, in those two months, put your heart and soul into those chapters.

How about a chapter on each characters point of view that reaches up to the current chapters of the manga? You know, get into the minds of each character. I think people would like to know how each Doji thinks about their role and their relationships with their masters. And more so for the minor characters.

That's a great idea, I support it fully.

Great! ^-^ It would take some time for me to write it all out and get the mood right but your suggestions would help me out alot while doing so.

Does each chapter have to be in order with those in the manga or would I just start with a doji then its master than a minor character than back again? But doing so that matches the mood or concept from the manga charapters that I got the mood and idea from?

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