Norm the Genie
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Bookworm Gal

All right, this is probably going to be a rather odd post eventually, but I figured that it could be helpful for those who are trying to write about any genie in the "Fairly OddParent" universe. So, please bear with me as I try to explain.

Over a number of seasons and lots of episodes, we've learned plenty of information about fairies and their various quirks and rules. I'm not talking about just "Da Rules," but also things like the fagiggly gland and butterfly nets disrupting their magic and magical build-up making them turn into confetti. We've seen Fairy World numerous times, learned about the Fairy Council, and we know that the Big Wand powers all the smaller wands. Basically, we know plenty about fairies.

Over time, we've also picked up a few hints about anti-fairies, pixies, and other magical species. We may not know as much about them as we do fairies, but they've featured in enough episodes to learn a few details. But genies have only been shown in three episodes; all we know about genies is from Norm's episodes. We've only seen four genies: Norm, the genie from the "giant sandwich" video he was watching with the Mayor, and the two girl genies he spoke to in "Fairy Idol." Essentially, we only know the basics about them.

I figured that we can use this space to both compile the little information that we do know about genies in the "Fairy OddParents" and to propose logical details based on that information. We can also discuss other possible variables that may or may not be true and suggest explanations for certain questions. Examples of such questions could be like these:

Is there a "Genie World" similar to how there is a "Fairy World"?

Why is there such distaste for genies as an entire species?

While we know there are no "rules" for genies to follow (making their wish-granting abilities more versatile than fairies), does their magic have any type of limitations in power or strength or capability?

What determines the form of their specific lamp or bottle (why does the fifty-thousand year old genie live in a lava lamp, for example)?

Are genies capable of the whole "transform into a less noticable shape" that fairies always seem to do in order to remain undetected? I don't recall Norm ever doing anything similar to turning into a pink bunny or a green salt shaker, so is that just a fairy and anti-fairy trick or does he simply not care to try it?

Basically, this is a place to pool our knowledge and make suggestions concerning genies. Hopefully, we can devise some logical guidelines for the species.

12/18/2011 #1
unknown20troper
1. My fanon is that the Darkness destroyed Genie World. 2. Uh, it's just racism. And they're more vulnerable than the other species, since they are in lamps and they have to grant wishes. And hey, the fairies are racist in some way or another against just about every about other magical species, so I guess you can say that the fairies are "fairy supremeist" or something. 3. Well, I figure there are limitations in what they can do for /themselves/. 5. Well, Norm transformed into some blue ball thingy during Gimme the Wand, so yeah... he can do that.
12/18/2011 #2
Bookworm Gal

Okay, this is exactly what I meant. Sharing ideas and such. It could be very helpful for writing various stories. The different fanons don't have to agree, but they are useful in seeing all possible options.

My personal theory is that genies don't have a Genie World and never did. Unlike many magical species, I get the feeling that they aren't really a close-knit community. The whole "stuck in a lamp or bottle" thing isn't very helpful in having a real city with lots of homes, resturants, stores, and a television station like in Fairy World. The genies, I believe, would be more scattered and solitary in comparison. When they get the opportunity to socialize with each other, they have no problem with it. But their lifestyle of being stuck in the lamp would not be very useful for having a Genie World.

Yeah, fairies do seem to look down on other magical species. Actually, all magical species seem to look down on every other magical species to a certain extent. Sort of like humanity...

I wonder about, in comparison to Poof, how powerful a genie's magic would be considered. We know that baby fairies have an unbelievable amount of magic, so I just wonder how that genies compare to that.

And I couldn't remember whether or not he did the transforming thing. Thanks for reminding me.

12/18/2011 #3
Bookworm Gal

Well, I don't usually like double-posting, but I thought that it might be helpful to list some facts we do know about genies for certain to go with our theories.

1: Rubbing their lamp results in three rule-free wishes (but they can grant requests for more wishes... they've just been bluffing for ages).

2: Norm, at least, can't escape from magic lamps, the charms of Barbara Eden (the title character of "I Dream of Jeannie"), and Smoof stuff. I would guess that the first and third items are a constant for the entire genie population, but the Barbara Eden thing sounds more like a personal thing.

3: Granting a wish involves the genie snapping his fingers and a gong sound, rather than waving a wand and a poof like fairies use.

4: Judging by the admittedly-limited sampling of their population, genies tend to be larger than fairies (close to an adult in size instead of a ten year old), have a smoky tail-thing, and their outfits seem to be like something out of "1001 Arabian Nights."

5: Genies seem to have at least a basic awareness of the surroundings outside of their lamp, if they are paying attention (such as how Norm noticed when he ended up in Uncle Albert's padded room in Canada).

12/31/2011 #4
unknown20troper

2: The Barbara Eden thing is one of the reasons that I disagree with you about whether Norm dates/beds people that aren't more than, say, a hundred years old. 'Cause yeah... he really seems to be a playboy type (eg. Hawaii, the dinner Chester interrupted to give the geniuses hair, the getting-fangirled-by-the-two-genies-in-the-Grand-Canyon scene), and when it comes to Barbara Eden, a fanboy. XD :D (His fanboyness is really endearing. :D)

5: I've never really noticed that before.

12/31/2011 #5
Bookworm Gal

*shrugs* Yeah, he definitely has his playboy tendencies. I definitely agree with that statement. He'd probably flirt with any attractive female of a reasonable age. But I've also noticed that the only time we've seen one of his dates was the pair of genie girls. And considering his apparent (mutual) dislike of fairies and his dismissal of humans, I don't think that he'd do much more than exchange a few flirty comments with a female who wasn't a genie. But that's my opinion.

I like the idea of him being a fan of Barbara Eden. I've watched some of "I Dream of Jeannie" and it was an entertaining show. Some of the "problems" that the title character causes with her magic probably gives Norm fun ideas sometimes. I could imagine the guy watching reruns in his lamp when he's bored.

Or maybe Barbara Eden really is a genie in that universe. Stranger things have happened. The Sandman sells mattresses, after all. Who can say whether or not she's a genie with a day job. Hehehehe.

12/31/2011 #6
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