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Moongoose McQueenTopic: WWE or TNA alright i know this will garner at least a little spam and flame replys, so i'll ask you to back up what you've said with some responses that make sense and try your best not to flame(i know this to be a futile request but i thought i'd ask anyway)i'd say that im not a fan of either specific company, im a wrestling fan so i'll watch whoever i think is doing better, i wont needlessly bash either company, nor will i needlessly praise either for things that do not deserve praise. But right now as far as the actual wrestling goes i think TNA has WWE's number, reason being because WWE is restricting wrestlers movesets to better characters(John Cena,The Boogeyman) burrying guys who get over without any of the WWE's help(Shelton Benjamin,Matt Hardy,Brian Kendrick & Paul London) and pushing guys who have a few big moves and a ton of rest holds (Randy Orton, Batista) so i watch TNA where we have guys get over with pure ability(AJ Styles,Samoa Joe,Chris Daniels), Where guys who WWE or other companies never used are given oppurtunities(Ron Killings,Elix Skipper,Christian Cage), and where if someone's getting over without TNA meaning for it to happen(Lance Hoyt) they're pushed, and not burried. i dont know i probly make no sense and will get flamed by WWE fans for making this board but oh well | #1 Jan 05th 2006, 11:15pm | |
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BubblyShell22No, I"m not gonna flame you. You're entitled to your opinions. As for me, I watch WWE, but only because it's on at a reasonable hour. TNA just comes on too late at night, and I get tired by 10:00. However, I'm gonna try to stay up and watch it, but it's hard. It's even hard for me to stay up and watch WWE. I don't like either brand better than the other, but I feel that TNA could be a driving force if they'd just make a push. I'd love to see a war between WWE and TNA. That would be cool. |
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spincutEdge6272I actually prefer WWE. Despite their extreme ** and biased decisions, I still think they have a chance to recapture fans. TNA for me looks like a decent but not great attempt to combine WWE's storyline-driven style (NWA Championship Division) and ROH's "this is not WWE this is wrestling" style (X Division). I would've put TNA over WWE if it wasn't for Jeff Jarrett. If TNA promotes the X Division more than the main division, then yeah, TNA would pwn WWE. But unfortunately, they haven't done that, so WWE gets it just because they can still make legends out of their talented stars (Benoit, Angle, etc.), and can kill off guys with bad gimmicks (Boogeyman, Stryker, Spirit Squad, etc). So yeah, I'm for WWE in this one. On a side note, I want to include Lashley in the cut list, because he represents the "tough guy who powers through matches" Ultimate Warrior-esque style of wrestling, something I loathe. |
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Moongoose McQueenbut the X Division is the main division, the fans know it AJ Styles is a bigger star (to TNA fnas not casual ones) than Jeff Jarrett,Christian Cage, adn Rhino. the X Division is the focal point of TNA, and honestly the in ring work in TNA is usually alot better, we don't have guys like Mark Henry taking ppl out of action everytime he steps in the ring, or guys like Randy Orton who rely soley on Restholds to win,but to each his own i suppose |
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spincutEdge6272Mark Henry is indeed a flaw, and so is the bad writing and the bias of WWE's heads, but for some reason I still lean towards WWE. TNA's X-Division indeed pwns, but like I said, it's Jeff Jarrett who brings the whole brand down. For an owner, he is extremely biased and very Vince McMahon-like in the way that he gets what he wants and doesn't care about the fans. Expect Jarrett to win the NWA Championship a grand total of 17 times before retiring, just so he can claim to be better than Ric Flair. |
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BubblyShell22I hate Jeff Jarrett. I hope he loses the title to Christian Cage at the next PPV. That would be sweet.| #6 Feb 01st 2006, 11:23am | |
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Moongoose McQueenit's a common misconception that Jeff Jarrett is majority owner for TNA, Panda Energy owns 79% of TNA, leaving Jarrett with a mere 21%. while it's true he holds his own title a bit much, at least he can carry a match. The WWE has had 2 champions(Kurt Angle & Edge) who could have a good match, and Edge only had the belt for 3 weeks |
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spincutEdge6272I know that Panda Energy owns majority of TNA, but they don't have creative control over the storylines, don't they? That's why Jeff Jarrett holds the title so often, because of creative control over his matches. And as far as carrying a match goes, I will admit he once had my fan support, but his matches always end with some form of cheating. Add to the fact that he claims to be a great wrestler, and there goes my respect for Jeff Jarrett. |
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BubblyShell22Yeah, he's not being fair to other wrestlers who deserve the title. He sucks to that degree. |
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Moongoose McQueenwell yes Jarrett's title reigns are out out of hand, but you can't argue Triple H does the same thing, Triple H is doing the boss's daughter so he gets the title whenever he wants it. Jeff Jarrett has the final say on who wins a TNA match so he always holds the title. I do hope Cage wins the title, but knowing Jarrett he'll want a big feud with Sting so he'll keep the title til Lockdown when the stinger is schedualed to return| #10 Feb 06th 2006, 7:40am | |
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BubblyShell22I hope Sting kicks Jarrett's sorry butt. That would be cool, although I doubt it will happen the way Jarrett is. He's just being selfish. So is Triple H.| #11 Feb 07th 2006, 6:59am | |
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spincutEdge6272At least Trippy has wrestling skills. Sure, Jarrett can carry a match, but Triple H can carry AND put on a 5-star performance at the same time.| #12 Feb 08th 2006, 2:32am | |
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BubblyShell22That's true. Triple H can put on a performance. Jarrett's just an idiot. I hope he lose the title but I doubt it.| #13 Feb 08th 2006, 5:26am | |
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Moongoose McQueenwhen was the last tiem Trips had a good match?october at Taboo Tuesday against Ric FLair Jarrett's last match was a while back too, December against Rhino, but it's more recent than Trips and Jarrett puts on flat out better matches you know what i don't really have time to argue with a bunch of marks who can say the WWE is doing fine, i think im going to close this forum, exploiting the death of eddie guerrero should automaticly put WWE below any promotion in exsistance | #14 Feb 10th 2006, 8:00pm | |
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spincutEdge6272It's true Triple H hasn't been wrestling a lot, but I still believe he has more wrestling skills than Jeff Jarrett. And yes, I know that Triple H is slated to win the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania 22. I know that Randy Orton will take Rey Mysterio's title shot at No Way Out. And yes, I know that WWE is a disgrace because of the Eddie Guerrero exploitation. But I still believe in WWE because they still have enough talent to bring WWE back to stardom, yet the writers and Vince McMahon are too stupid to realize that. Oh, and by the way, I've outgrown the "Mark" status long ago. Go ahead and close the forum. I don't wanna argue with someone who's using Jericho's former alias anyway. | #15 Feb 10th 2006, 11:30pm | |
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Moongoose McQueenthe mark comment wasn't dierected to you in particular, hell if you know what mark means you can't be one, you'r opinions are different than mine, which makes the debate easier.i agree WWE does have talent to turn things around, but the problem is the guys who i could see turning it around are stuck on Heat velocity or still in OVW, by which i mean Brian Kendrick,Paul London, CM Punk, Chavo Guerrero and Paul Burchall, the only main stays that i can see helping the company turn around are Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Kurt Angle, rob van dam, and even Kane. in the mid card we've got Matt Hardy, and thats about it, guys like JBL,John Cena, Randy Orton and the like need to just leave, they do more harm than good to the WWE product | #16 Feb 11th 2006, 10:23pm . Edited Feb 12th 2006, 1:18pm | |
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spincutEdge6272Yeah, exactly. That's one of the many reasons I hate WWE. Recipe for TNA success: Christian Cage VS Sting for the NWA Heavyweight Championship at Lockdown, Major push in X-Division, X-Division Tag Team Titles, Put X-Division on top of NWA Heavyweight Division, Samoa Joe VS AJ Styles VS Fallen Angel in Ultimate X, Fire Sean Waltman, and no more WWE-style stupid segments such as the infamous "Sting Through The Years" segment, featuring Team Canada in badly-dressed Sting attires. Oh, and did I mention MORE X-DIVISION! Hell, they have a chance to top ROH if they push the X-Division. I just worry about their plans for travel, though. That'd be hell on the TNA superstars who aren't accustomed to constant travel. | #17 Feb 13th 2006, 1:37am | |
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Moongoose McQueeni think they're going to ease into touring, they have a show booked in Detroit sometime later this year, TNA will provide more than an alternative somewhere down the line.| #18 Feb 15th 2006, 3:52pm | |
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misstraciFor me, I choose TNA over the WWE.Simple reason is that I am a bigger fan of the X-Divison style of wrestling. I am a HUGE fan of the likes of Aries, Daniels, Styles and Williams. The matches themselves are far more interesting then what the WWE produces and they actually place value on the title. I know a lot of people have argued about Jarrett dominating the heavyweight championship, but since I'm not really a fan of the style of wreslting that is common in the devision, it doesn't bare a lot of weight on my decision. The only thing that lets TNA down in my opinion is the lack of a women's division. You have the talent of Traci Brooks (who is one hell of a wrestler in my opinion), Jackie Gayda and Gail Kim - and they are being wasted in valet/manager roles. I know that there is an issue with the amount of time allocated on the shows, but hopefully with the time slot move, there will be a chance to create the division. | #19 Feb 15th 2006, 11:10pm | |
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Moongoose McQueenwell i here that once they get a bigger timeslot, TNA will be attempting to start a women's division, it'd be good but i wouldn't advise it yet, with only an hour long show, it'd be cluttered to have 4 titles, the only angles that could get any attention are title angles, TNA should hold off until they have more time to display it.| #20 Feb 16th 2006, 4:25pm | |
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misstraciI agree that with only an hour long show four titles would be too cluttered. What I meant before was that once TNA gets a different time slot hopefully the show will get expanded into a two hour program like RAW and SMACKDOWN.Any suggestions on other woman you would like TNA to bring in to boost the division once it gets going? Personally I would love TNA to bring in other woman besides released WWE divas. Maybe the likes of Simply Luscious and April Hunter? | #21 Feb 16th 2006, 6:37pm | |
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