So, you stopped here, so what happened to all the other villages? What happened to kiba leering at hinata (that should have been taken care of)?.. What happened to sasuke and the uchiha KNOWING they are not as strong as even LEE?.. Let alone the others?.. She called an ARMY inside their gates! ROFL.. that's your pretty much boned... What happened to certain clan heads now that they KNEW they are going to be fighting a two-pronged fight that they CANNOT win? Erase themselves? Their clans?

Still seems kind of silly for a BANK to have power over shinobi, when ONE of them SOMEWHERE in the world could go in and LEVEL the entire place single-handed. Remember no computers or anything at this point, in the naru-verse, so cash has to be ON HAND at the buildings... ROFL, seems kinda insane that money would matter AT ALL, once you consider that.

the sasuke thing seems even dumber, he's a person that has more reason then almost anyone to want revenge on his clan, is spoiled for unknown reasons, is the MOST likely to turn traitor (his family has proved it) and is LIKED? I am not sure how that works, I'd think he'd have the tracking seal, the "kill switch" and everything attached to HIM! If not his entire family erased from his memory. Actually I never understood why he wasn't thrown into root.. I mean it makes sense, he doesn't NEED his emotions, he's one dimensional at best normally and his brother was in root, seems kinda easy to get him too. (plus if it got out *which it would, itachi knows after all* why the uchiha were terminated then he becomes a CLEAR threat). Seems to me he's the bigger PROBLEM to be put DOWN.

And yet, TALK A GOOD GAME, but no bite, ever thing you might want to interject a little of how B.A. you YAK?.. Danzo, regardless of how he acts DIES next time, no proof needed, no acting out, HIM OR THE VILLAGE DIES.. period, end of discussion. When people REALLY want you ENDED? They don't CARE about proof, they just want you dead, and you WILL BE DEAD.. simple as that.

Even in this, their mentality makes no sense, netither does yours really, when naruto showed up to just HURT negji, he tried to say "you think my cousin would allow this"?.. Like he thinks she'd ever HEAR about it, that if she was dead (as his plan) it would matter? That naruto plans to let him leave this room alive?...See he's not staying true to character.

Because in your very words, I see a person that wants to weaken the entire village, alienate their biggest gun, provide no hope to it's people (minato had a kid) and make a lot of enemies for the village, work with a traitor and give secrets away and endanger the entire village.. This does NOT sound like a patriot to me? Does it really to you, or are u just forgetting past transgressions to add more? This sounds like a CANCER! One which if the third had been competent in his job should have CUT OUT. It also sounds like your making too much out of him, danzo is SUPPOSED to move in the shadows, this is bringing the empire he wants to take control of down around his head! a LITTLE too much!

Your reasoning doesn't make sense, if there had been a decline of shinobi, then it's their influence, so how does that make it okay?.. It's very confusing. to even think that's okay, are you SURE you thought this through?

So if the ex-toad wasn't stupid in thinking that danzo disbanded root, then the third WAS stupid in thinking he had? That is more or less what that sentence says. Now lets take the "OC bank" out of this because they don't exist canon, and you see that the third really is PRETTY STUPID! So is danzo really, I mean he wants ALL the uchiha killed so there will be no "acts of revenge" BUT leaves the two SONS of the clan head alive?.. Whom have the MOST REASON for an "act of revenge"... He wants the jinchuriki in root, despite the fact that without emotion they will never access the beast's power, thus NEVER be an asset?.. Are you starting to see how the entire concept is flawed? He wants konoha to be the strongest by undermining it's strength and making it weaker? You can say it's because he'll EVENTUALLY make it better, but just like the third, "what if you don't live that long?"... LEADERS HAVE to put something in place in case they won't see the end they want, they gotta KNOW (not just think) they are a replaceable part. So if they want anything DONE they got to give blueprints to those that will come after them. Or at least ensure that the plans they start will END with them.

I do agree with sasuke being taken OUT of the equation, I even agree with the castrated part, I just don't know why your saving Itachi all the time in your stories, it's the same bloodline, he MIGHT be the "black sheep" of the family but it's STILL the same bloodline... He needs to be sterile too.. Who is to say a generation or two or three down the line ALL this doesn't happen again? Best to just get RID of it! After all there is a perfectly good orphanage in konoha that needs parents to adopt kids!

Another time line goof? How was obedito able to train up better then kakashi when kakashi was on missions? The both only have ONE EYE the SAME eye, so how is he ANY stronger then him? Obedito didn't HAVE THE TIME to do it.. Why hasn't the leaf used kakashi to get the one, two or three tails before now?.. AGAIN timeline and how they acted don't match! ALL their "bad behavior" needs to happen very recently and it all points back to one incompetent fool that couldn't keep a hold of his "buzzard squad". (this is PRECISELY why they weren't PICKED, because it was never supposed to COME to this, the second never saw hiruzen becoming this PATHETIC..and it isn't JUST age, danzo is AS old as him!).

If karin, garaa (especially) itachi and the others were all fighting then why didn't more TARGETS get killed? The elders, the civilian council, the hyuuga elders, the Uchiha, Negji, I mean he was IN THE ARENA... A little poison in his medication, or let ONE group into the med-bay and he's GONE...I mean it's THE PERFECT COVER! They die, and OH WELL, it was all orochimaru's fault! Yet, you say they WEREN'T helping the village? *rolls eyes* you apparently have a very scewed definition of "helping".

Apparently Jiryiya has never read "greek tragedy".. The more your FORCE a prophecy the way you want it? The more you INSURE it won't work out the way you want. The gods (and authors) have a very SICK sense of humor when it comes to that. (showing that they were always correct of course, after all, why tell you about it, if you didn't have a hand in MAKING it come to pass?) I think the majority of canon naruto's problems came from their were to many commanders and not enough warriors if you catch my meaning.. The third was COMPLETELY incompetent at his job, maybe because things were SO different between when he retired and when he took office again. He TRIED to run things the way they WERE not the way they ARE! And that policy just doesn't work. The canon naruto was NOT overcharged (he couldn't be logically, the hokage was supplying the money), he wasn't thrown out of businesses, he wasn't beaten, he was ignored. The clan HEADS had NO PROBLEM with him, BUT the clan heads are NOT the entire clan, so no friends. See? Everyone has an agenda, and NOBODY in the series is willing to PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN! That is why it is ragged on.

Another clashing point, if the perv took minato as an apprentice, then 1. he couldn't have had plans for kushina to be used as a weapon, whirlpool would have thrown down because of it (they haden't been destroyed yet, I know THIS because minato was still a child) 2. If all this was "the plan" then it failed UTTERLY when minato came into power, so the third was dispossessed. IF he had thought like this the ENTIRE time he wouldn't have given up his seat even back then. His RE-TAKING the hat, was unforeseen, and then what? He just starts up the plan again? Even after ANOTHER plan had been overlay and his plan thrown out the window? That's kinda stupid even by leaf's standards (that window of time had CLOSED). I DO get the drama, and the tension your trying to build, but the thing is there are too many moving pieces, the third did NOT have an unbroken chain of authority, And your making the toad seem like he's got multiple personality disorder! He can't seem to figure out WHAT he wants to do or who he wants to side with! Now with the toads gone, he can see that also NOT picking a side is whittling him down to the bone! (everything he was famous for is ALREADY GONE)

"orochimaru got careless in believing that woman was weak"? Why is SHE getting all the credit? She barely DID anything on the orochi fight. Put an immobility spell on them.. BIG deal, that's NOT impressive, that's something a HEDGE wizard (apprentice) can do. SHE did NOTHING except HELP konoha, (regardless of how you want to spin it) Sarutobi was dead anyway you slice it without a LOT of outside help. She just made it so the snake had to take his medicine, which I've seen done with: naruto, minato, kushina, karin, tayuya, jiriya, tsunade, toberina, garaa, ocs out the wazzu, summons. Lets face it orochi's "plan" was VERY, VERY fragile! You want to know who killed orochi? The third.. Who killed the third?... Orochi. Kabuto also said some other things that didn't make sense... 10 years ago the third's mind was sharp?.. Well no it wasn't.. Number 1 the crimes against naruto were more then a decade old, 2 he told everyone about the jinchuriki status regardless of the fact that it WOULD make them weaker eventually, 3. He let tsuande and jiryiya run from their problems.. 4. He took out that loan for a war that NEVER happened with kumo and he was also prepared to go to war then caved(showing his idiocy then too).. (this would ALSO be within that 10 year span). Something doesn't add up here.. Okay, the kyuubi attack happened when naruto was born, the kumo thing happened when hinata was 3, the kumo thing sparked the loan, and naruto and her are the same age, that means he was 3 as well, naruto is 13, that means the kumo incident happened ten years ago.. SO his mind couldn't have been sharp then because that would have been AT LEAST 2-3 years after the kyuubi before they let another village in their walls. So the civilians HAD NO POWER even when naruto was three.. So why in many other statements DO THEY? (authors have SUCH TROUBLE with timelines) I think it's because so many authors want to keep canon stuff but they want to explain HOW things GOT TO THIS, the problem is CANON timelines don't match either, the ORIGINAL AUTHOR can't make heads or tails out of it. The ONLY people that seem to THINK, behave and remember correctly in the series are the ones FAR away from the leaf. and even their memories DON'T match the leaf's people! Think about that whole "snow country" thing, if you think about it and examine how kakashi remembers it, it's NOT POSSIBLE, he was adult then, but Kyoki was a very small child, but she is an adult now, kakashi's only in his late twenties early thirties.. The two statements can't be true, simply because their TIMELINES clash.

Danzo might influence her so his advice is the only one heard?.. ROFL hold on, I have to stop laughing... okay better now, that MIGHT be true, but the third is the only person STUPID ENOUGH to listen to ANYTHING AT ALL that mummy says. He's burned too many bridges, NOBODY listens to him anymore, EVERYONE suspects him (except the third, who does suspect, but still values him for SOME UNKNOWN REASON). That's why danzo NEEDS to rely on root later, NOBODY ELSE is willing to put their neck in a noose for him! Even the FIRE DAIYMO says to tsunade "him or leaf, ONE will be dead", "pick",(which you never have her tell anyone, because more then likely it's AGAIN hyperbole) so yeah, AGAIN hiruzen shows HE'S STUCK IN THE PAST! (there is that dementia or alzhemier's disease again!). Ye' ol' royals back in the day that had these mental problems always tended to have fatal "accidents" very quickly when they began showing signs of them, it amazes me that in a village of trained "assassins" this never happened. I suppose SOME of ALL their behavior could be linked to shusi eye, I mean if the hokage made a decision, then made another that was COMPLETELY contradictory to the first one, he'd need a third decision to smooth over the disparaging of the first two. To avoid SHOWING he was either being controlled(unlikely he would think of this one) or losing his faculties.

Um the third's argument with the first, really makes no sense, "you betrayed konoha for.." blah blah blah.. Um before the first? There WAS NO konoha! It DIDN'T EXIST! You can't betray something that you are in the process of creating! It would be like arguing with the artist that they moved a cloud into the wrong space in the sky for a painting, BEFORE THE PAINTING WAS DONE! That argument sounds, well, nonsensical, psychotic and more then just a little childish. For an old man, that is "supposedly" the smartest on the planet, his arguments, his actions, they ALL seem rather disjointed, I think he's suffering from either dementia OR full-blow alezhemier's disease. The think with naruto, is he keeps thinking he's a boy (this is a BIG tell, of being stuck in the past) because even IF he was sealed(and they have no seals to work permanently on kyuubi simply because THERE ARE NONE) and mind-wiped, he's TOO OLD to begin training at the beginning to be of any use to them in beating enemies, it's just TOO LATE.. (or the kyuubi would just use the weakened vessel to either break free or TAKE CONTROL).. You make the people in the story not seem to realize, THERE IS A TIME "WINDOW" on everything in life, and once it's closed it will NEVER open again! Even "immortals" have to follow that rule, because the world MOVES ON. Even IF he mind-wiped him, the damage is DONE, What would he do with the other nobles? The daymos? The people OUTSIDE his influence? The people THEY in turn have told? How would the ex-sage teach naruto if he can't use the toads anymore?..There are TOO MANY moving parts! He's ALREADY become the thing he claims to hate the most, because he himself has made the village weaker then it ever has been. (weak ninja, no jinchuriki, no toads, lost the sage, an animosity building in EVERY ninja village, a reputation that's in the MUD, no trust, a face to the other villages that they are ALL psychotic, and a civil war brewing in the hyuuga and probably the uchiha, plus clan heads that KNOW the hokage isn't very good at this... ALL UNDER HIS WATCH!)