I don't usually post much in the way of replies especially as its been over a decade since I ended the writing of this fic but honestly I wanted to make sure that people understood exactly what I was doing and this below reply helps with that.

Review: First of all, I would like to say that I have no grudge against the author, but I completely despise the story the way it was portrayed. It's basically a Stargate-centered story where, no matter what, the Earthlings seem to always get stronger, never weaker. They seem to acquire more technology from the Asgard and other alien races, also stealing from the Tollans.

Answer: Humanity are growing slowly here, they are only upgrading their own technology in this case, they may look for Tollan tech but its not just the tech they usually find. Plus honestly why shouldn’t they look for salvage, it’s the same as any other way of gaining advanced tech which has been standard practice for militaries for millennia?

R: You know, I gave this story the benefit of the doubt. I thought, "Oh, this is going to be an interesting story where either side is going to kill the other, and it's going to be a back-and-forth type of situation where they'll be evenly matched." No, no, no. It was nothing like that at all. This is a one-sided battle where Earth has so much technology and so many resources that it can just destroy all the colonial ships, which is insane and makes no sense.

Answer: Ok did you actually read this story all the way through, the Colonials have taken several major body shots but two of them are not something that was expected and the Tau’ri won’t be able to do that kind of attack very often. If I wanted it completely one sided I’d have had the Earth vaporise their fleet with the outpost and then detonate their suns with Stargates, neither of which happened.

R: But I'll let that slide because I liked seeing the Battlestar Galactica version where they were trying to build their armaments with Ragnar Station and everything else they were building in order to fight Earth. But as each chapter goes on, it's becoming more and more clear that it's becoming more Stargate-focused and less about the other aspects of the story.

Answer: The biggest issue was the worldbuilding I had to do and I know Stargate more than Galactica, but at the same time there were major storylines on the Colonial side including Ragnar and the hidden monotheists. More would have come but I stopped writing.

R: Which I get it, this is the author's choice. He wanted the story to go this way. Stargate probably is his favorite show. That's the reason he's making them win. I get it. I don't like it at all, but I get it. It's just, what's the point of the story then? Earth can beat the colonials, we all know this. They don't have the technology to fight back. They'll probably lose a lot more lives fighting them than anything else.

Answer: Not my favourite show but the one I know best and has a lot of lore/story than the far shorter lived nBSG. What was shown was yes the Colonials will lose battles and will have to adapt, and they were doing so and would continue to improve to the point that short of a dedicated 304 attack, the colonies would have been able to take on attacks by the Tau’ri.

R: Who really won in this war? Not the colonials. They lost ships, technology, lives, and they gained nothing in return. Earth, on the other hand, might have lost a few people, one or two ships, but they stole Battlestars, stole the technology from the colonials, and now all the governments in the world are building more and more ships, taking more of those technologies that they have accumulated over time, including the Asgard and now eventually the Tollan technology as well.

Answer: Earth lost millions of people, at least one ship (of a very VERY small number) and salvaged technology and ships that honestly are less useful than you realise. Earth also needs resources which are difficult to get, it also takes time to reverse engineer technology especially when it’s a different resource type and the language needs translating. Stargate really did that a disservice as a whole, I wasn’t going to do that. Also the only ‘new’ technology used by this point was the upgraded railguns and a different ammo type, that’s hardly using everything they’ve discovered.

Believe me If I wanted to make this a total stomp, I could have done it within the boundaries of Stargate’s own lore and extrapolating from what we’ve seen in series.

R: It seems that no matter what happens, this is a one-sided battle that seems to be prolonged for no reason. The story is continuing, but there's nothing really happening. And this chapter just became the last chapter I read. I'm tired and bored of this story already. The author made a very interesting concept of what a battle with the Stargate franchise would be like, and it should have been, as I expected, a losing one.

But in my opinion, the colonials should have won. They had more resources, they had more ships, they had more lives to sacrifice in order to accomplish their goal. If you really think about it, there's no reason for the colonials to have fought the way they did. After the first few ships were destroyed, they should have known that their traditional ways of fighting were not going to be useful.

Answer: That is the thing, Colonial wars are not fought the same way, they would not have simply changed their traditional ways overnight, especially when they are already committed (at Earth) or only having fought one or two battles (back in the Cyrannus sector). It takes time to come up with new tactics and disseminate them, train crews in how to use them and practice them. As of when I stopped writing, only a few months had gone by in universe.

R: In my opinion, they should have used kamikaze attacks on all the ships that the Earthlings had at the very beginning. I would have opened up all of our nuclear arsenal and launched every last missile at the Earth. No matter how many they destroy, they can't get them all. And if you can cause enough damage and destroy enough of their manufacturing capabilities, Earth will never recover, not even with the Stargate.

Answer: They wanted to take Earth intact, most of them were going by the party line that Earth was being controlled and needed to be saved. Nuking it into oblivion was not something that made any sense to them, to the Colonials, their Earth-bound cousins were prisoners of their overlords and not allowed to worship the Lords of Kobol etc.

R: And if you can make their Earth into a nuclear apocalypse, then they cease to exist and they win. But no, they wanted to fight like they fought the Cylons, instead of fighting like real tacticians, finishing their enemy off immediately once they noticed that they have far superior technology. They're dumb, in my opinion.

Answer: As above, all of that takes time, time they didn’t have.

R: And if that didn't work, I would have sent hundreds of ships towards the sun and launched gravity bombs into it, which takes the artificial gravity technology they already have and infuses it with a nuclear bomb, which enhances it a thousand times more. You throw that to the sun, it won't destroy the sun because the sun is too powerful for it to be destroyed by such a small amount of explosion, but it can cause a corona flare to happen, sending masses of amounts of radiation towards the Earth, devastating their communication channels, causing widespread disasters to happen which will take them many years to recover from.

Answer: Ok- how? It’s not a technology they have in place, they couldn’t simply build that many then and there and if they did build them they had to get them from wherever it was they were built, haul them to the Sol System and then launch them. All without being seen or being intercepted, not something that easy with the limits of the FTL drives the Colonials have, all of this while rebuilding the fleet, repairing ships and expanding their defences. They aren’t Starfleet.

R: And it makes no sense, why use Vipers in the first place? I would have sent out Raptors with nukes attached to them and have them jump directly into the Earth's atmosphere and start launching nukes and missiles everywhere, causing as much devastation and chaos as possible. Their usage of Raptors, Vipers, and Battlestars was horrific for a civilization that is very militaristic. They don't actually think like one.

Answer: As above, why? They wanted Earth intact.

R: It's funny that they always lose because they have very hard-headed admirals who fight with old tactics but never with new ones. What's stupider is that if the colonials know that the Earthlings are going to attack them, why not use this to their advantage, draw them closer into Sylon territory, have them have another battlefield to go up against another enemy.

Answer: Yeah, you really didn’t read much of this as the Cylons do come up in the story and the reasons why that wouldn’t work.

R: Then, if you really wanted to, you can create a treaty between the Cylons and the colonials for a short time in order to get rid of the Earthlings, and then they can go back to how they normally do things, where they point guns at each other but don't shoot.

Answer: And the Cylons would do this why? It would be obvious the Colonials pulled a fast one and after finding out how badly the Colonial Fleet was slaughtered, the Cylons would go ‘hell no’.

R: The author had many chances to make the story more interesting, but he chose a very basic outline of the story where Earth wins, everyone else loses, blah blah blah. It's a very normal fanboy type of story, which is fine, he has that right, he is the author after all, and my opinions don't really matter in the end. But it was fun saying what I needed to say anyway. I think that's enough. I'll see you next time.

Answer: You may have seen a lot of fics like that, but this was the first of this kind of story to exist. I also started writing it back in 2006 when I was still finding my ‘voice’ when it came to writing and none of the series involved had ended yet. It may seem fanboyish to you but there was not a single plot device anywhere that did not have a reason, including the fact that the Colonials had found Goa’uld technology and that Earth was having problems with the Wraith again.

Remember that for all the damage they did, and it was sizable, the Colonials are probably the lowest on the list of problems the Earth has.

First of all, I would like to say that I have no grudge against the author, but I completely despise the story the way it was portrayed. It's basically a Stargate-centered story where, no matter what, the Earthlings seem to always get stronger, never weaker. They seem to acquire more technology from the Asgard and other alien races, also stealing from the Tollans.

You know, I gave this story the benefit of the doubt. I thought, "Oh, this is going to be an interesting story where either side is going to kill the other, and it's going to be a back-and-forth type of situation where they'll be evenly matched." No, no, no. It was nothing like that at all. This is a one-sided battle where Earth has so much technology and so many resources that it can just destroy all the colonial ships, which is insane and makes no sense.

But I'll let that slide because I liked seeing the Battlestar Galactica version where they were trying to build their armaments with Ragnar Station and everything else they were building in order to fight Earth. But as each chapter goes on, it's becoming more and more clear that it's becoming more Stargate-focused and less about the other aspects of the story.

Which I get it, this is the author's choice. He wanted the story to go this way. Stargate probably is his favorite show. That's the reason he's making them win. I get it. I don't like it at all, but I get it. It's just, what's the point of the story then? Earth can beat the colonials, we all know this. They don't have the technology to fight back. They'll probably lose a lot more lives fighting them than anything else.

Who really won in this war? Not the colonials. They lost ships, technology, lives, and they gained nothing in return. Earth, on the other hand, might have lost a few people, one or two ships, but they stole Battlestars, stole the technology from the colonials, and now all the governments in the world are building more and more ships, taking more of those technologies that they have accumulated over time, including the Asgard and now eventually the Tollan technology as well.

It seems that no matter what happens, this is a one-sided battle that seems to be prolonged for no reason. The story is continuing, but there's nothing really happening. And this chapter just became the last chapter I read. I'm tired and bored of this story already. The author made a very interesting concept of what a battle with the Stargate franchise would be like, and it should have been, as I expected, a losing one.

But in my opinion, the colonials should have won. They had more resources, they had more ships, they had more lives to sacrifice in order to accomplish their goal. If you really think about it, there's no reason for the colonials to have fought the way they did. After the first few ships were destroyed, they should have known that their traditional ways of fighting were not going to be useful.

In my opinion, they should have used kamikaze attacks on all the ships that the Earthlings had at the very beginning. I would have opened up all of our nuclear arsenal and launched every last missile at the Earth. No matter how many they destroy, they can't get them all. And if you can cause enough damage and destroy enough of their manufacturing capabilities, Earth will never recover, not even with the Stargate.

And if you can make their Earth into a nuclear apocalypse, then they cease to exist and they win. But no, they wanted to fight like they fought the Cylons, instead of fighting like real tacticians, finishing their enemy off immediately once they noticed that they have far superior technology. They're dumb, in my opinion.

And if that didn't work, I would have sent hundreds of ships towards the sun and launched gravity bombs into it, which takes the artificial gravity technology they already have and infuses it with a nuclear bomb, which enhances it a thousand times more. You throw that to the sun, it won't destroy the sun because the sun is too powerful for it to be destroyed by such a small amount of explosion, but it can cause a corona flare to happen, sending masses of amounts of radiation towards the Earth, devastating their communication channels, causing widespread disasters to happen which will take them many years to recover from.

And it makes no sense, why use Vipers in the first place? I would have sent out Raptors with nukes attached to them and have them jump directly into the Earth's atmosphere and start launching nukes and missiles everywhere, causing as much devastation and chaos as possible. Their usage of Raptors, Vipers, and Battlestars was horrific for a civilization that is very militaristic. They don't actually think like one.

It's funny that they always lose because they have very hard-headed admirals who fight with old tactics but never with new ones. What's stupider is that if the colonials know that the Earthlings are going to attack them, why not use this to their advantage, draw them closer into Sylon territory, have them have another battlefield to go up against another enemy.

Then, if you really wanted to, you can create a treaty between the Cylons and the colonials for a short time in order to get rid of the Earthlings, and then they can go back to how they normally do things, where they point guns at each other but don't shoot.

The author had many chances to make the story more interesting, but he chose a very basic outline of the story where Earth wins, everyone else loses, blah blah blah. It's a very normal fanboy type of story, which is fine, he has that right, he is the author after all, and my opinions don't really matter in the end. But it was fun saying what I needed to say anyway. I think that's enough. I'll see you next time.

Sincerely, TakingThrone769.

i understand, i wait in the future you can write more, good luck

Beautiful writing, looking forward to the continuation. Wishing you recovery and good health

The Earth is 71 percent water. If those four nukes dropped randomly on the planet, the odds heavily favor them hitting ocean. But none of them hit ocean. Much of the land area of the planet is undeveloped or lightly developed wilderness, roughly 50 percent. But none of the nukes landed out in the middle of nowhere. The odds of all four hitting major cities is, pardon the pun, astronomical. And yet, all four did.

Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action. And all four hit the largest population centers for hundreds of miles around. That’s almost certainly deliberate targeting - so who among the Colonials has an agenda that doesn’t include liberation or assimilation of Earth?

these mofos are finding movies like godzilla and independence day and thinking earth is one big land of australia where everything is trying to kill you

I absolutely loved this story. I love all of the plot points. Great job. I hope all is well with you too.

It would be lovely if this piece was finished, someday. Author, you should know that we are waiting to continue) Thank you for your work.

I am sorry, but I do not like this fic; making the colonies into religious nutjobs when there is very little evidence for that just puts me off

Still one of the best out there.

Thanks for the good story... would like to read more

Please update soon. Because your books are so good.

So far I'm enjoying this story, however, it bugs me that you are referring to Colonial FTL as a hyperdrive using hyperspace. Colonial FTL is a space-fold drive. There is no need for it to enter or exit hyperspace, because it folds the space between the origin and the destination, allowing the ship to instantaneously travel across that distance. It's faster than a hyperdrive in theory, due to being instantaneous. It's slower in execution, because the Colonials apparently know nothing about subspace and therefore don't have FTL sensors. They rely on DRADIS which can only gather outdated information at light speed across interstellar distances. If they had Ancient sensor tech and ZPMs, Space-fold drives would crap all over even the fastest hyperdrives. That includes both Ancients and Asgardian. The only thing as fast as a space-fold with long range sensor capability is the Ancient wormhole drive. In fact, if they used the Stargate network DRADIS they could replicate that speed across the Milky Way plus any nearby galaxy.

Well, this was certainly an enjoyable journey. I must say this is among my favourites on this site, its an interesting story but its also somewhat simple and well written. I do particularly enjoy thr fact that you don't seem to pull punchs when it comes to either politics or war and that was exactly what I wanted (I came here from the Worldwar crossover series thinking 'man what if earth had actually gotten Nuked, not at all realising that's what this fic was.)

I do not know how much you write any more but I'm glad for what we got of this so thank you. I doubt this'll continue but I'm definitely following.

Tah

He leído 5 veces esta historia y es una de mis favoritas de SG1/Galáctica 2003. Lo felicito por so habilidad para la escritura. Solo tengo una pregunta. ¿Algún día actualizará nuevamente? Espero que si. Con mis mejores deseos y saludos desde Morelos, México me despido de usted. Att. Israel Nava./I have read this story 5 times and it is one of my favorites from SG1 / Galactica 2003. I congratulate you on your writing skills. I just have one question. Will one day update again? Hope so. With my best wishes and greetings from Morelos, Mexico I say goodbye to you. Sincerely Israel Nava.