|Reviews for Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality|
| Pommyth chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Oh my god. I love your story...but really this chapter was really the most difficult one to understand.
| alichi chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Uh, the beginning of that discussion has to have been the most useless sequence in your whole story. Seriously, statistics and dark lords? If 99 percent of all airplanes crash one shouldn't simply fear and avoid flying, one should ask WHY and fix it.
Fearing something simply because of statistics has got to be THE most idiotic fear in the world.
the hat looks at statistics of property salvaged from castle fires and demands to be stored outside of the castle...)
And why does the Hat have bias against dark lords? Not to mention it thinks Gryffindor is 'the most prestigious House'. The Hat said it itself(?) that it's simply in the business of sorting kids into houses, not try to convince the kids that they are potential dark lords. For that mater, everyone with enough power are potential dark lords... just takes the right(wrong?) kinda tragedy/push and there you go, a new dark lord.
With this chapter you reduced a likable scientis/rationalist/well-educated Harry to a boy with serious fears of being a failure and big delusions of grandeur. You'd think the Harry from previous chapters would think himself out of those problems...
This went from a fic about a Harry with pure ambitions of sorting out the magic in the magical world and with a quirk of being overly pessimistic in situations to a story about a Harry with mental problems... I seriously hope you sort this out.
That little realization by Harry at the end atleast gives me hope that your Harry will have solved some of his mental problems by the next chapter. Thou why you would want to bring up unnecessary, unwanted and unexpected problems in the same chapter that you solve them is beyond me...
I sincerely hope you ignore the majority of what went on in this chapter in the rest of the story, you killed the scientis/rationalist/well-educated Harry and alot of the humor with the introduction of this delusions-of-grandeur Harry.
Not to mention that whole rant about dark lords, statistics and the rest by the Hat was just incredible stupid and out of place in my opinion.
| Reeder chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
The whole thing would be so much better if you applied these "methods of rationality" indiscriminately. Not only when it suits you.
You know, it saddens me how people promoting rationality and independent thought are every bit as liable to build their views on something from propaganda as anyone. For example:
"the historical lessons of how Lenin and Hitler actually turned out"
Come on, get the other side of the story before making up your mind! It's not like anti-Soviet propaganda is a reliable source of information about the Soviet Union.
Not that I harbor any hope that you actually will find and read some memoirs of people not opposed to SU or will talk to someone who lived there and wasn't a dissident...
| chesney chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
heh, you deserve to be shot for this, but i couldn't aim straight from laughter
| DaveInACave chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
"I think therefore I am" comes to mind.
I'm sad I didn't figure it out, but I'm pretty sure your the only author I've ever read who used an entire good sized chapter for the sorting discussion alone. Your reasoning is spot on, and I have to say I like your version of the Hat. After all it would be kinda cruel of the founders to make a fully sentient Hat for one hour's work a year and sitting on a shelf the entire rest of the year.
The other thing that occurs to me after your "mirror by which children Sort themselves." line is that technically speaking that COULD easily mean (depending on your interpretation) that Slytherin is not JUST the house of the sly and cunning. It would be the house of those who think they fit in Slytherin as well. I'm sure the hat actually has it's work cut out for it for the students who don't care/don't know but if every student who walks in thinking "I DEMAND to be in X" gets into X, then X is partly just the house of those that want to be there. IE. Crabbe and Goyle. Hardly sly and cunning. And you already showed that the children do indeed make the choice themselves with Hermione and Neville, even before Harry's bout of arguing with himself. I wonder if Harry's going to figure it out, and if he does, whether he'll use it. I mean Draco's "proud Slytherin" identity doesn't mean nearly as much if the only reason he IS a Slytherin is because he asked and not necessarily because he fit what he thinks is the noble criteria. And even less if the only reason that a bunch of other people AREN'T Slytherin is because they didn't want to be. An elite club isn't so elite when they'll take anyone who really wants in.
It all depends on how much of what the Hat does is ACTUAL sorting and how much is just the mirror. I mean we've hardly got a large enough sample size (Of those sorted by YOUR hat with knowledge of the factors) to work it out based on data so really as much as we (the readers) theorize it all boils down to what you say it is. :P
| Gertyfull Angel chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
ha ha ha ha, i really like this story it is probably the best hpff i have read in a long time. I can't wait till you update and really do hope it is soon. XD
| Akira Stridder chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
| Lthayer3 chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Whoo! Much better than last chapter.
And I certainly didn't expect that to be the follow-up. Not because I didn't think it was possible, but because I've grown accustomed to an intelligent, self-aware Sorting Hat from other fanfiction stories. Although I've never seen it portrayed in quite this manner.
| Ershistalos chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
that was a pretty spiffy chapter, I really really enjoyed the argument/discussion between the hat and Harry. AND this sets up many potential "harder" encounters that will arise due to Harry being better/smarter/etc than in canon. Can't wait for the next chapter
| AiSard chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
| Darak chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Just one part that disturbed me greatly, the hat persists and signs in stating that he doesn't have access to any memories of previous sortings, just general feelings yet it indicates it has a knowledge that occlumency exists, it has a knowledge of previous children passing by and chosing houses that would turn them dark ... how can this be if a) he wasn't self aware for any of these sortings and b) he has no access to memories just general feelings, how did he correlate those childs further actions from a moment where he just played his role of mirror to their psyche.
Somehow this all doesn't seem to work so I'll go with the second option : The hat is lying, has always been self aware and always held the memories of all children, he just decided to play a mind game with Harry to enhance his own sense that his self awareness being older than Harry's is more important. The strange thing is that Harry is letting himself be manipulated by forgetting to act as a scientist, it almost seems as if he's already so convinced of his own superiority that he can't think about his own actions and toughts as being wrong, in short the exact contrary of what a scientist should be.
| SilverLullabies93 chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Is the Sorting Hat even allowed to joke!
| Artemis XIII chapter 1 . 4/3/2010
Very good idea. I was so focused on Harry that I didn't realise it was about the Hat... magician's trick! next time you'll make appear a dove out of a hat and I still will think "this is so obvious and I didn't realise!" which is what every story should do.
But: the "personality" of the hat here is absolutely not canon: in tome 1, the Hat tries to put Harry in Slytherin, so we can safely suppose that it doesn't care about whether its students become or not Dark Lords. Self-awareness doesn't imply a moral conscience and the Hat's role as "Harry's conscience" is very surprising and, to my mind (but with a 39 fever I hope you will forgive my opposition) not at all logical.
Still, it is an excellent twist and perfect at this place of the story. Very much like the canon in this that it says what nedds to be said (Harry and the reader need to hear that the prank with Neville was not a good idea and that the end does not justify the means...) and give the opportunity to Harry to make a choice (and we all know what choice he will make before it is even offered, of course, because canon!Harry would never fit in Slytherin and your Harry would never fit in Hufflepuff). Interesting that your Harry makes the opposite choice to canon!Harry as he is frightened not to realise his potential while canon!Harry is frightened to go "on the way to greatness"...
"Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme": I wonder how your Harry will turn. He seems well on the way to becoming a Dark Lord but he is only eleven and, whatever the Hat says, he will have plenty of opportunities to choose another path or to go back. I expect the next chapter with much impatience since you have been fairly impredictable so far.
Hum. Hope you will forgive me this very long ramble in very bad English. Put this on my being French and with a flu.
So, bravo for your writing skills, your understanding of the Laws of Fanfictions which you masterfully demonstrate and your very special turn of mind. I hope that you already have read Schopenhauer's "The Art of always being right" because you most certainly sound like it sometimes. I like very much this story. Please do not take this as a flame!
| jamester56 chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
*whistles* Now THAT was a sorting! Though, I dislike the idea of Harry becoming a dark lord AGAIN... but overall, I don't mind the possibility, and can see the potential. On a happier note, I like the how-the-hat-works thing, and love that it pranked the school. That made me laugh. :D
| Dan chapter 10 . 4/3/2010
Well, he's certainly ambitious enough for Slytherin- Hufflepuff had me worried because the hat's reasoning simply wasn't sound enough. For all mish mash of trait present in Harry hardwork and loyalty, while present are eclipsed by the traits of the other houses. I thought this might turn into one of those fics where Harry goes to Hufflepuff as the author's idea of 'being different'.