Reviews for Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
Guest chapter 77 . 7/1/2022
That line about Mohandas Gandhi has to be the stupidest most uninformed statement ever made in the history of mankind. I am an Indian, and i know my history well. Let it be made very clear this day - the title of father of the nation which was conferred onto Gandhi was neither a title he earned nor deserved. Let it be well understood that India DID NOT gain freedom because Gandhi sacrificed his followers by asking them to turn the other cheek. India gained freedom purely because of Azad Hind Fauj, its leader Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, and because Indians all across the nation took to arms against the Crown, INCLUDING those Indians who were employed in the British army. The British left because they realised they could no longer rule over a nation which did not want to be ruled, with an army that had turned against them. And even as they left , they landed their final blow by partitioning the country, which again could not be stopped because Gandhi and his followers were TOO WEAK WILLED to do anything substantial about it. Do not, ever, credit the victory of the Indian independence movement to Mohandas Gandhi. His only significant contribution if at all was his oratory skills that brought the masses together to fight the Britishers. Beyond that, his contribution was slim to none. Remember that. Always.
Jean Paul chapter 77 . 5/31/2022
Osea ... que?
Red chapter 77 . 11/4/2021
Oh god. Hermione i love ur common sense .
Guest chapter 77 . 4/15/2021
The Unplanner chapter 77 . 1/11/2021
I was wondering when Evil Grim Reaper Santa Claus was going to show up again. That *is* Death after all, isn't it, or at least some fey-like force of nature with a similar sphere of influence? He appears as Death or one of the dead; he speaks no lies, but to take anything he says as true is to invite horrible doom on yourself and everyone else. (Thankfully, Hermione isn't dumb enough to do that.) And he thinks Albus Dumbledore is a fool and Harry Potter-Evans-Verres is terrifying, which are the only two things we know for sure about the thought processes of Dementors.
Guest chapter 77 . 10/22/2020
For a story all about what's Reasonable the frankly Ludicrous levels of bullying at Hogwarts in this story just don't fit. The teachers allowed that in battle school in ONE case inside the student's own peer group. Realistically any upperclassman in Hogwarts picking on little kids would be ostracized and assaulted by everyone around them.
Guest chapter 77 . 9/21/2020
It is vastly uncomfortable, knowing the soul which animates this Harry Potter, to read this chapter and recognize myself in him, as though I gazed upon a mirror which reflects not my face, but rather my spirit.
Guest chapter 77 . 5/17/2020
Majerus chapter 77 . 7/15/2019
Well shite. They are capable of keeping one illusion under another, and more importantly, someone who knows exactly what to say to get past her defences :/
AlenDarkStar chapter 77 . 11/12/2018
I like aftermaths, many perspectives is good.
dlr chapter 77 . 2/24/2018
Dumbledore's actions here are completely incomprehensible. There is no way that cracking down hard on ALL fighting, ALL bullying, by ALL the students would result in a political problem of some kind for Dumbledore. Harry's suggestion to Hermoine of what he thinks Dumbledore is going to do to crack down on bullying (setting a lot of wards to suppress offensive spells, using Veritaserum to determine if reports of bullying were true) would have been a rational and logical thing for Dumbledore to do, the minute he knew that bullying was a widespread problem in the school. What Dumbledore actually did- allowing the bullying to continue- was not in character, and, what's more, was stupid. It seems like it was forced on him as a plot device. But that plot device makes him, to me, so despicable and weak that I don't care if he is good or not. If he is that despicable and weak he is the same as evil, because he is in a position of authority, like a policeman, and he held his hand out of fear.

It was believable that Dumbledore was so weak politically that he couldn't shut down the Dementor prison, but it is beyond belief that he is so weak that he can't even stop bullying in Hogwarts. There were bully's from all or most of the the houses. It wasn't house against house, it was older kids hurting younger kids. There would have been no constituency for wanting that to continue. All of the parents would have been in favor of Dumbledore cracking down on bullying. 100% of them. The thing that would have undercut Dumbledore politically would to allow the bullying to continue.

And if I'm wrong, and there truly was some reason why
stopping the bullying would have resulted in a political problem, Dumbledore should have explained it to Harry, not taken him upstairs and showed him a bunch of relics of dead people who had died because of bad decisions Dumbledore had made in the past:

"Look at the terrible results of starting a war" is not an answer to "why aren't you going to crack down on bullying at Hogwarts".
Chucklebot3000 chapter 77 . 9/26/2017
You know, Harry's decision to loan Hermione the cloak was actually very perceptive. J.K. Rowling herself said that the Cloak's greatest power lay in it's ability to protect loved ones from harm. A power Dumbledore came to apperciate in his older years.
The One Who Reads Too Much chapter 77 . 8/4/2017
The truly funny part is how many times Discord had to try and mindwhammy Flutter-, I mean Voldemort had to try and convince Hermione.

And it probably wouldn't work even if he came to her as a future version of herself.
jcampbellohten chapter 77 . 7/27/2017
Yooooo, Snape is the mysterious shadow man? So much plotting!
ack1308 chapter 77 . 4/12/2017
Oh dear.

Hermione has been infected by Rationality ...
unicell organism chapter 77 . 3/25/2017

pikupstix chapter 77 . 2/11/2017
I'm not sure bullying has been very well applied here, as a plot device. We never see Harry or anyone else suffer in such a fashion, and so the concept never gains traction in our minds. The bullies always lose, no matter how far back in the story we go. Harry and Hermione both admit that they have not personally ever been bullied; Harry can only attempt to empathise from 'simulations'. Why should we, the audience, therefore, fear bullies such as these that take no form and leave no prints? Why should our heroes not conquer them effortlessly, when you have never done more than weakly imply there is threat otherwise? The first time it happened, with Neville and the pies, it was hidden by the wonder of the tricks of convoluted Time. Now, sixty chapters later, the implied conflict falls flat; the story arc that depends on this tension becomes that much harder to suspend disbelief of.

And speaking of... the whole Self Actualization arc was fairly unexpected. It was the first time I'd come out one of the story's multi-chapter series with a frown on my face, wondering at the legitimacy of what I'd just read. What in the world is this business with feminism and heroines and the Bully Hunters? Have I stepped into the Twilight Zone? Coming off the SPE arc, I was pumped for a follow-up on the tension between Harry and Professor Quirrell-but instead was treated to a vaguely parodic drama series wherein immature little girls seek glory by confronting various, unnamed, Slytherin bullies. And what does any of it come to? None of the little girls are featured in the aftermath chapter. It is Harry again that we see consequences for, who we see the red carpet of the plot unfurling at the foot of. Harry and Draco and Hermione, as it always has been. I don't see why you tread elsewhere, why you departed from the formula that had until now been working so well.

Permitting further criticism, I wonder why the arc was included at all. It seems like an arc destined to be scrapped upon an author's first revision of the story manuscript, because, while ultimately self-sufficient and sound, it detracts overall from the story at hand. There is simply no need for it. (Not within the core story; perhaps in an offshoot/excerpt series, regarding the adventures of the supporting characters, outside of the main plot line.)

That said, I've not yet read beyond the SA arc. Perhaps my criticisms will prove unfounded as I journey forth, and I will better understand the reasoning for the inclusion of the arc.

(And really, the whole arc was almost worth it anyway, just for that parting scene with Severus. Losing his first kiss at thirty-something, to a student he has no particular interest in and who won't even remember it come the next day... And all this after being called on his pathetic lack of courage in failing to properly pursue Lily. Not sure I've ever felt quite so bad for a fictional character before.)
LovestruckPrince chapter 77 . 1/26/2017
I feel like this story is just going downhill...
Jatok chapter 77 . 11/18/2016
Hah, nice. I feel like I should know who it is though. Oh well, I'll just hope he'll die in an explosion of gore.
JD73hsnHSBDF chapter 77 . 9/3/2016
Hmm ... I wonder what that is ...
I like how Hermione said that even though appearances can be misleading, they're often true.
The Anguished One chapter 77 . 8/24/2016
The scene with Albus and Harry was fantastic, but I wouldn't say either of them are wrong. I understand Harry's argument, but I'd say Albus does have a lot more experience on the matter than him.
Quirrell and Snape was just as interesting as Hermione's encounter with the strange spirit, but Draco's section is my favorite. The young heir to House Malfoy has come so far.
facebook7 chapter 77 . 3/3/2016
Just for the record, but as a child I counted and found it took just over 700 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. Other people I know who've done it have all come up with answers between 700 and 750.
Montara chapter 77 . 1/25/2016
I loved the confrontation between Harry and Dumbledore! Harry is right, he shouldn't be the Headmaster of the school!

Who's that woman at the end?! So curious!
OriksGaming chapter 77 . 12/31/2015
I feel like this is either all some huge plot concocted by Harry, with a lot of illusion like charms . . . . Or that's Helena Ravenclaw protecting some kind of 'Chamber of Ravenclaw.' Or I'm just going to have to wait for the story to progress before I figure out what it is.
WatchingTheWatchman chapter 77 . 12/9/2015
Okay, incredibly creepy transforming spirit again... I hope that gets explained at some point, because I have no plausible theories!

I love the character development for both Draco and Harry in this chapter, it's lovely. Dumbledore as well; his actions make a lot of sense, and he does have a better grasp of the bigger picture than Harry. But his willingness to tolerate cruelty is depressing. I don't know if Harry has the right idea, but his vision for a world is certainly a more pleasant place to live.
ShadowLDrago chapter 77 . 10/30/2015
Hm... Something strange is happening.
addicted2text chapter 77 . 10/13/2015
That Harry forgets who Dumbledore is or the times that man was made famous for before casually invoking Gandhi is a ridiculous faux pas of monumental proportions. Really? I mean **really**? You're going to have him lecture Dumbledore, a man old enough to have likely met Gandhi in person in one form or another on India and Gandhi's philosophies?

I like a lot about this story, the little herrings and hints here and there for points of departure are fun and inspirational but to have your author avatar lecture in this manner is tedious beyond all measure of arrogance. Dumbledore's twitching lips to the side, there is no point to that scene whatsoever in this context. It destroys the interaction to have this young inexperienced Harry Potter lecture in this manner and draws him out as childish not precocious.
Concolor44 chapter 77 . 6/18/2015
... and now I am TRULY worried for Hermione.

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We have seen Prof. Quirrell dueling a top Auror without breaking a sweat. He so little fears Snape that he didn't even bother to hold his wand. Yet I can't fathom his game with the Potions Master.
PA chapter 77 . 5/24/2015
... wth? lol
Rachel chapter 77 . 4/1/2015
Oh wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. It's all I can think of to say...
My Swagg Level Its over 9000 chapter 77 . 3/29/2015
I am just wondering if it is canon that wizards are really more durable?
David chapter 77 . 3/28/2015
Furthermore, the British /were/ ruthless in India. The image of British colonialism as well-dressed men drinking tea and sitting down on rattan to peacefully discuss the march of civilization is a false one. Historians debate whether the British massacred millions or merely hundreds of thousands of Indians in the wake of the Sepoy Mutiny in India less than a century before Gandhi's campaigns began, for instance (for a good chill, read wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun).

In summary: Gandhi may have been wrong about the ability of a sustained and disciplined satyagraha campaign to defeat a Japanese invasion, but he was not /obviously/ wrong and he was not naive or unthinking in his appraisal.
David chapter 77 . 3/27/2015
Your Gandhi/Churchill anecdote is too facile. I'd recommend reading e.g. "Eichmann in Jerusalem" and maybe some of Gene Sharp's work about how nonviolent resistance really did save (particularly Jewish) lives in some countries under Nazi occupation. Also, give a closer reading to what Gandhi had to say about using satyagraha against a Japanese invasion (it was that, and not a Nazi, invasion that was anticipated) of India. "It's a hard question and Gandhi refused to deal with it" doesn't correctly describe it at all. Gandhi recognized it was a hard question, and that a satyagraha defense would likely mean the sacrifice of many defenders to a ruthless enemy, but he considered that such a cost would not be greater than the cost of an armed, traditionally military defense (which also, of course, requires the willingness to sacrifice the lives of defenders), and that the gains would be surer, more durable, and more valuable.
GingerHannah chapter 77 . 2/26/2015
Loved the Draco and Gregory section of this chapter. I hope that Draco gies on to see him as an equal.
Riniko22 chapter 77 . 2/23/2015
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Kichigai17 chapter 77 . 1/22/2015
This story was interesting at first, especially all the bits with Snape but Harry has become so ungodly insufferable that I can't stand to read any more. I love dark super powerful Harry fics but he is so goddamn arrogant and annoying in this story without any of the cool parts about secretly studying dark magic and dumbledore being manipulative and whatnot. He's really unlike able, sorry. Your writing is fine but the plot and characterizations are just all over the place
AHA chapter 77 . 1/9/2015
Just a guess here but...

Gilderoy Lockhart!

- Favors Obliviate

- Holds respect for the importance of appearences

- Is, most likely, a cowardly manipulator

Eh? Eh?
gleamfang chapter 77 . 11/2/2014
Just one thing, what the fu... Did not see that end coming at all! I hope there's some explanation soon!

thepkrmgc chapter 77 . 8/3/2014
its good to see that hermione is genre savvy enough to not trust the evil spirit, i wonder who the ghost is?
DamionKenley117 chapter 77 . 7/29/2014
That exchange was not suspicious or scary or really creepy at all was it.
Anonymouse chapter 77 . 7/20/2014
I'm surprised the comments on this chapter haven't included any mention of those hoary old fanficcers, Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath...
sabby chapter 77 . 6/12/2014
Im just thrown off that this is still the first year. I just hope the story dosent end with first year.
Guest chapter 77 . 6/3/2014
"I recognize the name, Harry," said Dumbledore. The old wizard's lips twitched upward. "Although honesty compels me to say that dear Winston was never one for pangs of conscience, even after a dozen shots of Firewhiskey."

"The point is," Harry said, after a brief pause to remember exactly who he was talking to, and fight down the suddenly returning sense that he was an ignorant child gone insane with audacity who had no right to be in this room and no right to question Albus Dumbledore about anything, "

Firefly070995 chapter 77 . 3/2/2014
Okay, I am officially BAFFLED by this story. So many questions have been raised and yet it seems none have been answered! None! At all! I'm this close to pulling my hair out. I'm dying to know at least one answer and I'm really hoping something like that happens it the next 30 odd chapters I have left to read. This is unbelievably frustrating
That's not to say I don't like the story though. I do.
julian.sloman chapter 77 . 2/7/2014
Alright at this point there's too many foreshadowed "bleh" plots going on. We keep hearing things that Harry supposedly taught Draco at some point, but there's no meetings recently... and those were great fun! I feel like there are many old things that feel unresolved (like Hermoine finding out how her team mate had those amazing powers for facing the bullies... by the way that particular power being a D&D spell really bugged me for some reason).

I feel lately like everything I'm reading here is like reading about a story rather than reading the story itself, as it felt when on the prison arc. - For example *how* did Quirrel get them all naked and glued to the ceiling? He's pretty powerful, but half a houndred students? Area of effect spells? Potions? It's a bit like answering *magic*. In this case that's not an answer, because there's so many types of magic, etc.

Maybe I'm just starting to get worn out from sleeping too little while reading this, but I feel like chapters used to make more sense. Now all I see is hooks for new stuff, rather than resolutions. :-S anyways, back for more. or sleep? or more.
Alexja2013 chapter 77 . 2/2/2014
onlytoask chapter 77 . 12/8/2013
That's ... uh ... if I didn't have such confidence in you I'd be worried.
Incognegro74 chapter 77 . 10/2/2013
Its Sirius Black! The mysterious figure is Sirius Black!
addikhabbo chapter 77 . 8/28/2013
OMG! I love it!
Guest chapter 77 . 8/8/2013
Why, o why, must the "Science" used [and abused] in these fables be subtle and complex and abstruse, whereas the History is childish to the point of being a Fairy Tale. Is it because [so-called] Rationalists cannot use their reason except to explain why planets spin about the Sun? For any truly complex, non-"scientific" inquiry they resort to "common sense" and Ideology. The Lessons of History, apparently, are all so obvious you don't even need to to study History to actually learn them.

Three Points of Information about the "history" cited in this Chapter:

1) CLAIM: "we freed his country"
FACT: the British DID NOT "free" the people of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh.

2) CLAIM: "But the Nazis would've just shot everyone in sight."
FACT: - a) Didn't the British actually DO PRECISELY THAT? and
QUESTION - b) Why assume the Nazis couldn't have done a BETTER job as Imperial Masters than the British?

3) CLAIM: "Winston Churchill was the one who tried to convince the British government not to give Czechoslovakia to Hitler in exchange for a peace treaty, that they should fight right away -"
FACT: a) Churchill favored "appeasement" too because there was no other choice. b) "Czechoslovakia" was a figment, not a country; and c) Neither Britain nor France was in a position to do ANYTHING meaningful to "defend" Czechoslovakia. They didn't "defend" Poland either when they declared war in 1939.


Why, o why, must the "Science" used [and abused] in these fables be subtle and complex and abstruse, whereas the History is childish to the point of being a Fairy Tale. Is it because [so-called] Rationalists cannot use their reason except to explain why planets spin about the Sun? For any truly complex, non-"scientific" inquiry they resort to "common sense" and Ideology.

Case in point - the following self-righteous idiocy in the current chapter [77] - it's a long-winded chapter, so it's a long-winded quote ... Be patient:
"There was a Muggle once named Mohandas Gandhi," Harry said to the floor. "He thought the government of Muggle Britain shouldn't rule over his country. And he refused to fight. He convinced his whole country not to fight. Instead he told his people to walk up to the British soldiers and let themselves be struck down, without resisting, and when Britain couldn't stand doing that any more, we freed his country. I thought it was a very beautiful thing, when I read about it, I thought it was something higher than all the wars that anyone had ever fought with guns or swords. That they'd really done that, and that it had actually worked." Harry drew another breath. "Only then I found out that Gandhi told his people, during World War II, that if the Nazis invaded they should use nonviolent resistance against them, too. But the Nazis would've just shot everyone in sight. And maybe Winston Churchill always felt that there should've been a better way, some clever way to win without having to hurt anyone; but he never found it, and so he had to fight." Harry looked up at the Headmaster, who was staring at him. "Winston Churchill was the one who tried to convince the British government not to give Czechoslovakia to Hitler in exchange for a peace treaty, that they should fight right away -"

A few simple historical FACTS are needed here:

1) "we freed his country" claims the American Harry Potter in this chapter.

Really? So, according to this version of "History", the people of India did NOTHING to free themselves.
Britain was simply overcome by the moral power of Mr Gandhi? The historical lesson to be learned is that the Independence of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh [they were all part of "India" when the British ruled] is due to the "benevolence" of the British who suddenly saw the error of their Imperial ways? Is there ANYONE who is not a child, who believes this drivel?

2) "But the Nazis would've just shot everyone in sight." - Didn't the British actually DO PRECISELY THAT? Amritsar Massacre and all that? - Actually, the Nazis would not have "just shot everyone", and only a FOOL would believe such a claim. The self-serving lie that the Nazis were simply Dementors with snappy suits is dear to the American heart, because it is at the core of the ideological lie Americans like to tell about themselves about being "peaceful" and "freedom-loving" [whereas everyone else is just Irrational and/or Evil]. The notion that the Nazis would even have invaded India is so laughable it doesn't merit consideration. And, as for the notion that the Nazis could possibly have been worse for India than the British, you'd have to be heroically ignorant of the history of the British Empire to believe such nonsense.

3) "Winston Churchill was the one who tried to convince the British government not to give Czechoslovakia to Hitler in exchange for a peace treaty, that they should fight right away -"

IN PRIVATE, Churchill in fact agreed with Chamberlain: there was NO ALTERNATIVE to "appeasement", [Czechoslovakia was an invented country that didn't exist before 1919 and doesn't exist today].
IN PUBLIC, Churchill made political hay out of Chamberlain's foreign policy problems because that's what politicians DO. Churchill was NOT [as some childish folks fondly imagine] a lover of "democracy" who "gallantly" took on the nasty Nazis while the World cowered in fear. He was a dyed-in-the-wool, traditional, British jingoist who LOVED the Empire and to-hell with the "natives" [whether the Irish in Ireland or the Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis in "India"].

Actually, the view of History purveyed in this [and ALL "popular"] American fiction is so laughably ignorant that only the historically illiterate could possibly believe it.
But, that's the kind of "history" Americans are taught, and they uncritically eat it all up, no matter how absurdly fictional it clearly is.
Remember that hoary old lie about Columbus being the only one to believe that the Earth was NOT Flat in 1492? The one that also claims his sailors were afraid they'd fall off the face of the Earth? Turns out that's an American Lie told by an American [Washington Irving] to Americans. And they just lapped it up. Remember the Fairy Tale of George Washington and the Cherry Tree? The one in which li'l George allegedly "couldn't tell a lie"? Turns out that that story is in fact a … LIE.
It helps explain why people in this country think they are "rationalists" if the reject "religion" and support "science". IN all other areas of endeavor, the brain is incapable of rational analysis and clings childishly and desperately to Ideology. *sigh*

The constant American NEED to invoke the Nazis, and Churchill, and "appeasement" as an explanation for EVERYTHING ... that's just plain childish.
Guest chapter 77 . 7/27/2013
I cannot believe Harry did not tell Hermione about the lip-biting trick for recognizing Obliviation on oneself!
Inferno Vulpix chapter 77 . 7/10/2013
Hmm... this Mr. Hat and Cloak is perhaps the biggest obvious unexplained mystery to show up in the fic. He's (generic pronoun) only shown up twice so far in obvious fashions, and we have next to no information on him.

Except we did get a few tidbits of clues during the conversation with Hermione. First of all is that (and we know this from the encounter with Blaise) he likes to obliviate people to hide his trail. He also uses that technique to try conversations again, if they fail.

It seems obvious that the 'shining lady' form isn't his true form, and I think that his cloak form is a disguise as well, to further hide his trail.

He has intricate knowledge about Hogwarts and the plot, and talks about things that we hear about later on in the story (such as Snape being a Death Eater, it hasn't been revealed that he has a Dark Mark, right? And how Lucius seeks Hermione's blood, foretelling the troll incident).

There are two big clues I spotted, though. The first is that Hermione recognized Mr. Hat and Cloak once he dropped his disguise, so that limits the possibilities to people Hermione knows (which would include famous people she's read about as well as friends, acquaintances, and teachers.)

The other big clue is when Hermione asks how he knows all his secrets, Mr. Hat and Cloak responds first with the word 'Time'. This could mean any number of things, but I suspect it refers to him coming from the future to guide past events/maintain timestream. We know that the Time Turner can't go further back than 6 hours, but that seems to be an arbitrary rule that Harry might circumvent. That said, there's still a possibility that Draco figures it out, or one of them solves the puzzle and someone else goes back in time, but it still is a hint nonetheless.

Also... we hear him talk about Harry Potter, how he's scared of him (doesn't mean Mr. Hat and Cloak isn't him, as we saw from the 'Slytherin's Ghost' conversation), and how Harry will kill all in his way (indicated by prophesy?), and that will include Hermione if she gets in his way. He also mentions 'when the darkness takes him fully', which could've started at the time of Hermione's death.

If all of this is foreshadowing, and Mr. Hat and Cloak really is from the future, I'm kinda scared as to where this fic will end up...
Jillian A.K chapter 77 . 6/30/2013
"Just what do you think you know, and how do you think you know it, anyway?"

"Time -" The voice seemed to catch itself. "Time enough for that later

Was he originally going to say 'time travel' before catching himself?
iroshi chapter 77 . 6/30/2013
When a new chapter of a long story comes out, I always look at the chapter just before and if I don't remember what's going on, I go back to the beginning to re-read the whole thing. This happened when I started this chapter, so there I am re-acquainting myself with the deep thinking manic humor that characterizes Harry Potter-Evans-Verres, when a single sentence hits me and I suddenly realize exactly why I love this story so much! "And it was also clear that Potter was brilliant, and a whole lot more than just slightly mad, and playing a vast game that Potter himself mostly didn't understand, improvised at top speed with the subtlety of a rampaging nundu." You could replace the name 'Potter' with the name 'Naismith' or 'Vorkosigan' and it would fit right into one of McMaster-Bujold's works (replacing nundu with a suitable Barrayaran creature, of course!) Yep, I'm totally in love with brilliant manic guys with the weight of the world on their shoulders! Yay! ;). Okay, back to enjoying the manic saving of the world!
Oblique chapter 77 . 6/29/2013
The Self Actualization arc is where I ceased reading in my original go through of this story, some months ago. Back then, it seemed... well, it seemed jarringly slow and atonal, especially in comparison with The Stanford Prison Experiment arc directly before. That comparison innately feels unfair, simply because an eleven year old genius successfully busting into and out of a prison full of Death Itself alongside his evil mentor is hard to smoothly denoue down from.

The initial build up I would compare to the drudgery of very simplistic ingredient prep for a meal; it was the literary equivalent of chopping the vegetable medley piece by piece.

The ending of this arc is not the finished meal. It's the kettle of boiling water on the stove for Dish #2 beginning to shriek insistently at you, while YOU'VE only just managed to shove all those carrots and onions and what-have-you's into the saucepan. The strength in the Self Actualization arc isn't within itself, rather in how it's going to set up the delivery for what comes next. So I'm glad I've gotten through it, because I can already feel the steam coming off from the roiling water and I'm excited to see what you're going to use it for. A sense of foreboding tension will keep me as a work's devotee any day.
Guest chapter 77 . 4/12/2013
Woah, some serious time travel is going on in this fic. Did Harry figure out how to beat the 6 hour mark?
BlueWolf1923 chapter 77 . 2/5/2013
What just happened? Why is some ghost lady dressed like the Undertaker? Why do I think I recognize this character? And why doesn't Hermione?
YlvaThorgalsdottir chapter 77 . 2/4/2013
"Appearances are usually not deceptive" is such a stupid thing to say to someone who can glamour themselves.
Guest chapter 77 . 1/22/2013
The plot thickens...
WildCard-Yes Man chapter 77 . 1/2/2013
That... thing, reminds me of the scilence from Doctor Who...
Ao chapter 77 . 1/1/2013
I believe that the very end of this chapter is truly the only time I said "What?" aloud while reading this magnificent piece. Very good, Mr. Wrong.
esran chapter 77 . 12/21/2012
"The black cloak rotated slightly, back and forth, it didn't look like shoulders shrugging, but it conveyed a shrug. "That is the riddle, young Ravenclaw. Until you solve it, you may call me whatever you wish."
does anyone else think that this is voldemort, or tom riddle, because he says that is the riddle, or am i reading to deep into things?
i think this is where he plants the thoughts in hermoine, so that later hermoine thinks she attacked draco.
Guest chapter 77 . 11/30/2012
This is the best novel I have read in a significant period of time. I continually burst out laughing at the actions and thoughts of the characters, as if I had drunk Comed-Tea before starting each chapter.
Thank you, as the lessons of logic and reason being infinitely stronger and more useful than faith and emotion are precisely the lessons that seem to be in short supply.
5 1/2 stars (out of 5) would recommend and read again
Krow Blood chapter 77 . 11/17/2012
...a black cloak so wide and billowing that it was impossible to determine whether the figure beneath was male or female, and atop the cloak a broad-brimmed black hat; and a black mist seemed to gather beneath it and obscure the face of whoever or whatever might lie beneath..


You know, that is how I actually imagined the dementors the first time I read about them.
Wendell chapter 77 . 10/22/2012
My first idea was that Quirrell asked his question to make Snape and thus Dumbledore think that he is not allied with Voldemort, because otherwise he'd know very well who they try to trap (and should in fact know, if only because Harry told him). I wonder if that was it, or something more plot-moving.

Poor professor Snape, slowly realizing that he is, indeed, a pathetic creep, whatever other good qualities he might possess.
MondSemmel chapter 77 . 9/15/2012
A spectacular chapter of HPMoR. One of the best, I suppose. Both the scene between Dumbledore and Harry and the one with Hermione were great.
In particular, it was remarkable how easily Hermione could be overpowered by someone with the abilty to reset time (or something equivalent, like resetting her memories, or the whole encounter, or something). That was amazing, and thought-provoking. I suppose Harry could have beaten that ability somehow - because the author would want to show that Mister Incredibly Suspicious Person wasn't omnipotent. But I wonder how Harry could have done that. It certainly wouldn't have been easy.
And finally, having Hermione recognize that Mister at the end, of course, gives us tons of things to think about until that mystery is revealed...
hedelex chapter 77 . 8/27/2012
I have NO IDEA about who is that mysterious white lady... Can't stop reading D:
voodooqueen126 chapter 77 . 8/2/2012
I am glad someone else can see through Gandhi...
erinacea chapter 77 . 7/8/2012
Huh, wow. An extremely intriguing chapter.

Dumbledore's memorial rooms explains a lot of his behavior and recent choices. Great of Harry to stand up against him like that, though as usual I think Dumbledore's got a point or two.

I love Draco's development and am amazed at Greg's discovery (apparently he's smarter than everyone gives him credit for). Woot!

The ending... such a cliffhanger. Brilliant of course, of whoever is behind it, to use Hermione's prejudices to get her to trust them. Recognizing the person terrified her already, eh? That doesn't sound like someone she interacts with on a regular basis, such as Snape or Quirrell. One of the (other) Death Eaters?
Discordy chapter 77 . 6/25/2012
Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality/ Eliezer Yudkowsky

A Review by Eddie Smolyansky

AI researcher and decision theorist Eliezer Yudkowsky probably woke up one day and asked himself a single question: what would have happened in Harry Potter’s first year in Hogwarts, had he not been such an insufferable idiot?

You might not have considered him an idiot in the first place, but as the book progresses and the new Harry makes his way around Hogwarts, facing the same problems and situations, it becomes impossible to ignore the oh so logical and natural way he handles them this time. It really makes one wonder what was going through his head in the original version and feels like a direct critique of Rowling. It made me wonder how I managed to ever take the original seriously (might have something to do with me being 8 years old at the time).

In Eliezer’s version of the story, Harry is a child prodigy; Highly intelligent and educated well beyond his years in the sciences and the methods of rationality, he is well equipped to handle anything the magical world can throw at him and then some. But this Harry also has a dark side and we get to know him better as he struggles to find balance in himself.

The differences in this parallel universe don’t end with Harry, though. His adopting parents, Petunia and Prof. Michael Verres-Evans, are happily married and treat him as they would their own flesh and blood. Ron and Hermione remain mostly the same, although genius Harry obviously prefers to interact with the hard working book-worm and quickly decides that a boring, average ginger is simply not worth his precious time (speaking of time... no, I won’t ruin the surprise). A cunning and manipulative Draco Malfoy and a powerful yet cynical Prof. Quirrell take on larger roles, in quite unexpected ways. We also see much more of Dumbledore (who has actually read The Lord of the Rings, seeing as every muggle student ever to come to Hogwarts thought that gifting him a copy was an original idea).

It seems important to note that magic is also treated a little bit differently, especially by a scientific Harry, who sets out to test and understand it, thus restoring order to the seemingly shattered laws of physics. Naturally, things don’t go according to plan and at times he is forced to improvise.

The book started out pretty well, with some laugh out loud scenes as Harry finds out about magic for the first time (see quote below). As I read the first few chapters I kept waiting for the level to drop, for the premise to exhaust itself, for my enthusiasm to subside, but 300 pages in and hungrily reading on, It was clear that I’ve stumbled upon something great and that the story is safe in the deft hands of Eliezer Yudkowsky.

Quote -

“You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat! You violated Conservation of Energy! That's not just an arbitrary rule, it's implied by the form of the quantum Hamiltonian! Rejecting it destroys unitarity and then you get FTL signaling! And cats are COMPLICATED! A human mind can't just visualize a whole cat's anatomy and, and all the cat biochemistry, and what about the neurology? How can you go on thinking using a cat-sized brain?”


The book is funny, at times hilarious. The premise is well executed as Eliezer draws from his vast experience as a rationalist and lets us take a look at genius minds at work; we all know how hard that is to pull off. Methods of Rationality really hits its stride around chapter 5 and according to the author if you haven’t taken to it by chapter 10, then that’s a good time to call it quits (and rethink your interests).

From the get-go, different decisions create chains of cause and effect that send the book in pretty different directions (like Harry finding out almost immediately that he’s prophesied to battle against the dark lord). Other scenes repeat almost word for word, like the first potions lesson with Snape (only this time, Harry refuses to play the victim and stands up to him, in a rather spectacular fashion).

As the story progressed, I found myself engrossed in the plot, invested in the characters and generally unable to put the book down. It is not flawless and at times Eliezer’s inexperience as a novel writer shows, but overall this is as good as it gets. Come for the premise, stay for the story and along the way let the message of rationality rub off and enlighten you. I’ve rarely been as inspired to study, as in love with science or as driven to succeed as when I’ve read this book.
Lord Xaos chapter 77 . 5/23/2012
Hmm...I wonder if Mr. Darkness and Shadows/Mrs. Purity and Sunshine had anything to do with Hermione being false memory charmed over the Draco incident?

...Nah. That's can't possibly be-AAAHH! *is punched*

Harry: *breathing heavily through gritted teeth and seething frustration* "WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!"
Finariona chapter 77 . 4/21/2012
Hermione's encounter with Mr. Incredibly Suspicious : That's totally the spirit of Riddle floating freely while Quirell is a zombie in his private quarters. He briefly possesses Hermione to make her point her wand and produce the illusion she sees that shrouds the spirit; then since she keeps her wand trained on the individual (of her own will, due to reasonable suspicion), the appearance remains.



At this point I'm guessing that Quirrell/Riddle has some plot that involves keeping Harry close to him for a long while through either Harry's darkness, curiosity, mentorship or a perceived common purpose such as destroying Azkaban. His game is interesting because it is so much more refined than canon Voldie's guerilla. I suppose separating Harry from Hermione could benefit him. Will he succeed in wrenching Snape's fealty away from Dumbledore? Snape has come to some pretty interesting conclusions himself regarding the prophecy.

And if he realizes that his reasons for sticking with Dumbledore are because of a ''pathetic boyhood love'', he might throw the proverbial towal. I'd like to see that actually.

I wonder what Quirrell/Riddle really wants, at this point. Does he want the philosopher's stone? Likely. Would he use Bellatrix for a revival potion? He could. But is Harry still really his enemy? And does he want to conquer and rule the magical world like before, or are his final aims more subtle now?

He seemed to genuinely regret not being able to stay on at Hogwarts for another year, as was Harry's christmas wish. He cannot not because of the curse on the position, which he could lift, but because the life-energy of the original Mr. Quirrell's body will have been spent after a year and he will need to find a new host. Am I completely on the wrong track?
istari chapter 77 . 3/16/2012
Subtle clue to Hat and Cloak's identity:

"What's your name?"

"That is the riddle, young Ravenclaw. Until you solve it, you may call me whatever you wish."

riddle - Tom Riddle - Voldy - Quirrel
Muciope chapter 77 . 3/13/2012
And then hermione took out the letter Draco wrote... like a bouse.
adamjb chapter 77 . 3/12/2012
Glad that you switched 76 and 77. There is a missing word in one sentence of this chapter.

[quote]it was like the rage inside him had been hit **by** a hammerblow[/quote]

You are missing the "by". Also, my spellchecker doesn't like "hammerblow", and I think simply "hammer" might be clearer.

notalizard chapter 77 . 3/12/2012
That was a great story. I love the science and especially the reasoning references! Funny, gripping, constantly unpredictable, with a lot of interesting moral issues. I can't wait for more! Now I'm off to take a look at your website.
Captain Death chapter 77 . 3/12/2012
Welcome Back. and this time I am more careful about the submission return. You did a fine job to plot in the front the shotgun

"Oh, I am," Professor Quirrell said. "A Colloportus cannot be dispelled by Finite Incantatem; it requires an Alohomora of equal strength. Until then, a glove so Charmed will resist lesser material forces, deflect the Sleep Hex and the Stunning Hex. And as neither Mr. Potter nor Miss Granger can cast a counterspell powerful enough, that Charm is invincible upon this battlefield."

that Hermione was not up to casting alohomora, and then

"and the Sunshine General's own voice rose to a shriek audible across the whole battleground -


Time should have paused.

But it didn't.

Instead the padlocked glove on Draco's hand flashed briefly grey, and then the padlock clicked and fell off."

Malfoy blames himself for casting the spell poorly, but that is Malfoy's opinion. Perhaps she is better than he thought, or than Quirrell thought. Perhaps Qiirrell has plots on top of his plots.

No one in the audience seems to notice that Quirrel's assertion was incorrect. Perhaps they were annoyed or distracted.

On the other hand, I might have expected the Aurors to surround Hermione, and they instead seem to have Harry boxed in from all sides. Perhaps I am misreading.

Again, very well done, and welcome back.
RationalGirl chapter 77 . 3/11/2012
We hope your move goes well. It is always exciting and stressful moving to a new place so if the move and unpacking start to get to you, you can always escape to us, your HPMoR fandom.

The following is meant to be humorous.

2455997.95 Julian Date

and the Great Wait for 78

will not abate

We long to know our hero's Fate

This epic tale is truly great

Our rapaciousness is hard to sate

And because no one can estimate

When it will continue at this rate

Please forgive us for our Psychological State.
Pest Controll chapter 77 . 3/11/2012
I am glad to hear you have your bunny problem under control.
Virtue chapter 77 . 3/11/2012
"I offer you," Virtue holds his hands up as if persenting his offering on a silver plater, "Well deserved praise!"
A chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Dear Snape,

I feel For you,

I.S chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Beautiful description of an awkward kiss
Patience chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Good luck with the move. Looking forward to the next post!
Guest chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
I dont want to publish chapter 78 without finishing chapter 79 because 78 has a massive cliffhanger. Well I'v finished 79 but im not going to publish anything and i'm not going to give a coherent reason. Now im moving so I may not meet my previous artificial meaningless WTF deadline but i'm not going to publish before I move because... fuck you.

Meanwhile the chapter 76 cliffhanger has been hanging for 6 months. :
Anon chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Long Time Fan: He was going to post it last night but didn't want to screw with people taking the SAT, and he was busy today at 7 PST.
Long Time Fan chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Looks like someone should have read up on the planning fallacy. Zing! ;)
Simon Says chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Nice Fic!
Jason chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Keep up the good work!
Kofi chapter 77 . 3/10/2012
Dear Less,

Thank you Thank you Thank you. I can not tell you how much i have enjoyed reading your book (book in progress?) I just finished reading it for a second time. Each time I not only learned a lot, I learned a lot about my self. I was going through a really hard time and listening to Harry made me remember my grand childhood dreams. I am working hard towards those dreams now. I have also started using the methods of rationality more explicitly in my life (It is funny that I was not, because I am an engineer).

I know you are working really hard on these next chapters and I hope your muse (that trigger for the group of neurons that fire in just the way necessary for you achieve mental clarity and focus) stays with you. It is hard to write a book,especially if you are working another job at the same time. In the mean time I will be reading the book mentioned in HPMoR, so I can catch up with Harry.

I wish there was more I could do to help. Anyway, the best of luck to you.

A fan eagerly awaiting the next sequence.
him-mione chapter 77 . 3/8/2012
In accordance with Celeste's Principle, would you like a drink? A cookie? A handy-j? I make a mean hurricane, I've got chocolate chip cookies here already, and...well, you're kind of far away, so those are really your only choices.

A little excited that you're hoping to start posting roughly around the time of your Berkeley move (which is, I believe, Sunday. Bon Voyage, btw), because that means more HPMOR (sadly, I know I'll devour them quickly, and begin the next long waiting period, but c'est la vie).
NotThomasHughes chapter 77 . 3/8/2012
Readers of HPMOR, I have discovered a new fallacy in my thinking. It seems I've been trying to hurry the arrival of 78 by incessantly rereading chapter 77. This is not clever. I should indulge my secret crush on McGonagall, reread chapter 2 (guys, I thought I was a dog person, but once you see a woman actually turn into a cat, you start thinking allergies schmallergies, this needs further exploration), or chapter 5 even though it's about clothes shopping.

We all think our memories are more precise than they are. We underestimate the feeling of freshness that can come from rereading a random chapter, not to mention the smug satisfaction we get from actually knowing what's going on this time. You may encounter the Sorting Hat. You may hear the wail, "Tracey ate my soouuul!" I visit random chapters and they are wonderful. Do not make my mistake, pouring over chapter 77 eight or nine times, continually rereading Snape's lament, "to look back after only thirty-two years, and wonder when your life was ruined past all rescuing." Because after that chapter, it stops, no sequel yet, only the feeling of having lost something precious. I always feel so obliviated.

A couple of weeks ago, it was a strangely warm day in late February, I was driving to work, and I saw groundhog in the middle of the road, crushed to death on the double yellow line, and I thought "Hah! Couldn't predict traffic patterns either!" But predicting arrival times can be tricky. Not to worry. The quality of a springtime matters more than the timing. New chapters will come.

So, fellow HPMOR fans, find a temporary something to help bide the time. May I recommend a fine play by Samuel Beckett, whose dry absurdities are nicely enhanced by our wait for seventy-eight. Or you could reread "A Cask of Amontillado", and with Fortunato you could scream out "For the Love of God Montresor!" Or perhaps "The Raven," in honor of Ravenclaw. But whatever you do, DO NOT ASK YOURSELF , "Hmm, I wonder what the SECOND best Harry Potter Fan Fiction is like." That, too, is not clever. Have that thought even once, and it's St. Mungo's for you.

Actually, the second best HP fanfiction came out, aided by massive use of timeturners, back in 1857. Quidditch is cricket, Hogwarts

is Rugby, Malfoy is Flashman, Harry is Tom Brown, but Hermione, Cho, and Ginny are missing, because girls hadn't been invented yet.

It's a bit of stretch, but I own a copy, I've started it before, I'll try again. Wish me luck.


MillieBriggs chapter 77 . 3/7/2012
I've been meaning to review this as I read along, but I was so entranced by the story that I couldn't stop long enough. For several nights I've read way past my bedtime. It's a wonderful story, funny and intelligent. Somehow Harry has a lot more depth, and as some others have mentioned, Quirrell is a favorite.

Thank you for taking the time to write. Since I galloped through it the first time, I'm going to go back and reread it. Actually, I've started reading it out loud to my husband, just a chapter at a time.

Wonderful stuff, thanks!
witchealer chapter 77 . 3/7/2012
Sorry, I haven't read any yet, I just stumbled upon the story and have placed a story alert to get the rest of it. I'll get back to you when i've read it.
yyy chapter 77 . 3/7/2012
Wait just a minute. The update happened on 2/28 at the top of chapter 77, but didn't show up on hpmor dot com until 3/7. Please do updates in one canonical place.

... and also, that means that the "will try to update before 3/11 but no promises" means something different. If that had been written 3/7, with only 8,200 words of aftermath done (when the average aftermath chapter is 12-14k words), it would mean "I'll consider posting 78 before 83 is done". But written on 2/28, it more likely means "I'll try to write a bit faster and finish 83 by 3/11". Since the latter is more subject to planning fallacy, the fact that the update happened a week ago is bad news for us as readers, even though it does mean that probably today there are more than 8200 words of 83.

So see how a stale update is not the pure good news that a fresh update would have been?

...Wow, I guess I'm unhealthily obsessed. I will not check hpmor or ff again untill I get my ff update notice, or May, whichever is first. If you're like me, consider making the same resolution.
xx chapter 77 . 3/7/2012
Yay, new author's note update! We love you!
Agent KC chapter 77 . 3/6/2012
I just wanted to let you know that I discovered this three days ago and have not escaped reading it for that time period. I even stayed up hours past my bed time until I read your note at the top of the chapter...

Anyway, I love your story and I think it's very well written. I normally don't bother with fan fiction because 90% of it is crap, but this is amazing. I like your story better than the original. You do a great job of taking everything to its logical conclusion and really flesh out some of the implications in the original canon.

Also, is Quirrell evil? Is he not evil? I can't tell and I don't want him to turn out to be obnoxious and die in an obnoxiously cliche evil death sort of way, because he is now officially the most awesome character ever written. Anyone who glues bullies to the ceiling is just Too Awesome to die that way.

Someday I will re-read all the chapters and leave better reviews on each chapter. But for now, thanks again for writing such an awesome story.
destynova3 chapter 77 . 3/6/2012
So. I just wanted to tell you that I love you and I hate you.

I love you because this story is one of the best things I've ever read. I didn't care about Harry Potter at all until I read that this fanfic was great (on Hacker News) so I just watched the first three movies to get a feeling of the background and characters, and now I don't care to see the rest or read the books because I know I'd like your version more.

And I hate you (just kidding) because you have infected my mind with antideathism memes and now I despair at the lack of a cryonics organization in my country; and even if there were one I'll never get my remaining family, which is all I have in the world, to sign up. So catholicism and general insanity is going to take them, and I'am powerless. Before I accepted death as everyone else, now I see that as stupid and insane and a waste like rejecting blood transfusions or MRIs or antibiotics.

Nonetheless and obviously I dont't blame you for my mental weakness and the general stupidity of the world, and I eagerly look forward to rest of the story while (slowly) munching on the Sequences.
Bobby Minter chapter 77 . 3/5/2012
I had a dream last night that you posted a new author's note, saying chapters would be uploaded starting tomorrow. I woke up more excited than I have in months... then I realized it was all a dream. As Rush put it,

"The sleep is still in my eyes, the dream still in my head.

I heave a sigh and sadly smile, and lie a while in bed.

I wish that it might come to pass, not fade like all my dreams

Just think of what my life might be in a world like I have seen!

I don't think I can carry on! Carry on this cold and empty life... oh no!"

In all seriousness though, I have the same attitude towards new chapters of this story as I do towards Valve games. If it takes you forever to release them, it's because they will be worth the wait.

Also, last year my best birthday present was a new chapter of this story (the Stanford Prison Experiment arc's ending, actually, which made it even sweeter). That was April 6. Just sayin', I know you can top it this year.
RexNihil chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
It seems to me, lately, that all the best stories remain unfinished. I would really love to see more of this story. I find myself thinking of the possibilities when I can not read this story, such as when I am at work.

For the sake of curiosity and a desire to see how the story plays out, please continue writing.
horntail07 chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
Wonderful story! You are an absolute genius :).
angelrock444 chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
Bg gchg
Neville Schlongbottom chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
I've been following this fan fiction since you published chapter 8 and I finally have decided to write a review. As a science and math student in college who loves the Harry Potter series, this fan fiction has provided me with much entertainment for the last couple of years. I've gotten several of my friends into it and I just wanted to thank you for writing an amazing story. Although I am certainly waiting for the next chapters to be released, I understand that you need time to back-edit the chapters that you've been working on for the last 6 months. I'd rather wait for a complete story arc that you are satisfied with, than have the story before it is complete.
excelsia chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
okkkay. that was an amazing story, and i started it few days back, but i hope you keep writing it regularly... seems like you have an amazing fan following as well :)
Kelly chapter 77 . 3/4/2012
Hope the move is going great! Can't wait for an update, luckily I wasn't waiting with bated breath. But it's a testament to how amazing you are that I still check for updates every freakin' day! Hope you still get joy out of writing this for us lowly peons...

Transreal Clouden chapter 77 . 3/2/2012
Excellent Story
4th in-laws chapter 77 . 3/2/2012
I for one would rather wait 6 months with progress reports every 10-14 days, than a month and a half with no updates. So from that perspective, guilt-tripping the author is actually starting to look like a rational strategy.
Olaf Roysson chapter 77 . 3/1/2012
It's a good thing the JKR wrote the original, otherwise I wouldn't have had the opportunity to read this piece of pure awesomness. I only wish I'd gotten to it later, because now I have to deal with the agony of waiting for updates.
Reviewer chapter 77 . 2/28/2012
Well, I recently reread this. This fic is now officially two years old today! Hoping that you'll post something in honor of the anniversary later tonight.

I look forward to this fic's next arc, and hope that you will, once finished with this fic, ultimately go on to write other creative works - fanfiction or not.

Thanks for all the free entertainment,

An Anonymous Reviewer
OneTwoThreeFive chapter 77 . 2/28/2012
I have read the whole 77 chaps 2 times plus some individual chapters a few times more.

I really enjoyed almost every part of this magnificent work.

Some minor things:

- Most of the involved children don't really feel like children to me. I can absolutely see this for Harry (well, it's the premise that he is incredibly smart and rational), Hermione (another child-prodigy, well ok), Draco (he's had extra training all life, etc.) and for some individual minor characters. But it feels like ALL of the children at Hogwarts (except some Griffindors) are in some way non-childlike (too smart and/or always plotting).

- I didn't like the whole Heroine-Arc particularly. It's not that it was bad or so, it just felt a little bit distracting and a little artificial.

I really hope the new chapters come out soon, can't wait to go on reading (especially since you state they will "get back into the main course of action")
Dan7315 chapter 77 . 2/27/2012
So, um, it's been half a year since the last update...
Atticus Craft chapter 77 . 2/26/2012
As I've said before, fantastic story, read it many times. I would just like to take a moment to say the authors notes updates keep the anxiety at bay. An authors note update, while never as good as a story update, is usually met with a healthy serving of joy nonetheless.

I would just like to request an update every 2 weeks, if it's plausible. I don't even care if they say "Progress is the same as last updates, been busy with stuff, hope to have it done soon". That's infinitely better than crickets. The crickets are what drive me insane. It's the not knowing that's the killer.

I will happily wait another few months for more story updates in order for you to get it written write, but please just give us a few more author notes updates (they make the wait bearable!)

Great writing, love all that you do. Big believer in spreading rationality.
Pinxit-SlyClaw chapter 77 . 2/26/2012
I have tried to refrain

Oh so much

But you have pushed my hand


with care, a 16 year old
x chapter 77 . 2/24/2012
Hoping for an author's note update - or perhaps even new chapters - this weekend.

I've given up hoping that the author will post 78 when it's authentically done, not when the whole sequence is done; even though to do so would make perfect sense, since at one chapter per three days this sequence could still probably come out on schedule. (And that's without planning fallacy, just based on length of previous "aftermath" chapters and demonstrated speed of writing, with a reasonable margin for error).
anon chapter 77 . 2/24/2012
DLP Warrior: Ah, the trolls are back. :)
stalked chapter 77 . 2/24/2012
I love your writing so very much, to the point where any criticism I gave you would be detrimental.

Please update soon.
Shubhs chapter 77 . 2/24/2012
Brilliant work.

I find Harry and Hermione fascinating. Some aspects remain unfathomable to me, but I blame that on my own immaturity, rather than your writing.

Have you considered the fact that Harry's premise for 'justice' is flawed a bit? He thinks he truly has the concept of justice all figured out but has he ever considered the continuous cycles today's world is subject to? Three hundred years ago, it would have been considered justice for a woman to be beaten by her husband for slight infractions. Now, it won't be. At least not as much as it was.

Has he considered the fact that if he really does want to reform the whole world, then he has to revolutionise his thinking a lot more to prevent himself from backsliding into the conventional moulds that Dumbledore and Voldemort fill? He'll have to be classes apart and break the ceiling and go sailing into outer space, literally.

Anyway, it's interesting watching you develop your story from the philosophical point of view.

I love that edge Quirrel's character is giving to the story. One of my favourite moments was when he said that he could afford to help the little girl if he wanted to, unlike the so-called moralistic, Light individuals.
DLP Warrior chapter 77 . 2/23/2012
You're going to regret telling Yudkowsky to take as long as he likes with his updates. Remember that this is the guy who took five years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to write a self help book and never finished. You'll probably never hear from him again. Or maybe he'll use the chapters to wring a few more donations out of you. There's no depth he can't sink to when he's "saving the world", right?
Kayla Childs chapter 77 . 2/23/2012
I have loved reading everything so far, thank you so much for all the time you've put into this entertaining (and educational!) work! I have never enjoyed fanfiction this much before. Well, maybe Brad Neely's Wizard People :). Anyway, I am excited for the next portion! Also, you inspired me to read through some of Less Wrong. I am (slowly) making my way through Bayesian Theory. It's good mental stimulation while I wait for more HPMOR!


The Real Chys Lattes chapter 77 . 2/22/2012
love this
rndmprsnlily chapter 77 . 2/21/2012
it's been a long time and the story is still on chap 77; any word on the next update? i really like this story
old-crow chapter 77 . 2/20/2012

I enjoy your idea of presenting your story in sequence arcs. It is an effective way of segmenting yur story. Of note in the lasr few chapters, I enjoyed Harry and Dumbledore's conversation regarding the price of the phoenix and the complexity of your Quirell character. I also like the writing style that you're using having a good portion of the scenes not be from Harry's POV, such as the poisoning of Riddle's parent's bones.

I wish you continued success in your writing and hope that the words come easily to you.

ehsanul chapter 77 . 2/19/2012
This is the second time I've read through HPMoR, and I just wanted to express my appreciation of the wonderful writing. Eagerly awaiting new chapters, but take your time Eliezer!
Ayrin chapter 77 . 2/15/2012
An amazing read. Thank you very much, looking forward to the rest of the story :).
Fortunata chapter 77 . 2/15/2012
I have read this story several times already, but this is my first review. I probably should have reviewed before now, but I was probably just too distracted by the awesomeness that is Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality ('Must read next chapter! Must read next chapter!'). Oh well.

This story is my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE fanfic of all time. Sometimes, the way some passages are written is a bit confusing, but that's okay - a little confusion is fine, especially when you're not supposed to know exactly what's going on. It also makes me laugh my head off fairly regularly, and that's always a good thing. I can't wait for the next chapter!
SomeGuy chapter 77 . 2/13/2012
The author of this fanfic is Eliezer Yudkowsky. The stuff he "borrowed" from lesswrong is simply stuff he wrote under a different username on a different site.
xxxxxxx chapter 77 . 2/11/2012
Thanks for the latest update. So... it sounds as if chapter 78 is really done, with little need for retroactive edits at this point? That's great news, I can hardly think what would be better.

David DeLaney chapter 77 . 2/11/2012
Apologies if this is a second 77 review for me, it's been months, I've lost count.

While reading the HP&tMoR thread over at Lesss Wrong, it occurs to me: Strong magic can only be passed from a living mind to another. It is strongly implied that Voldemort killed Salazar's basilisk because of this. But we know of at least one other long-lived magic-using mind perfectly capable of teaching spells to others: Nicholas Flamel... It may be that only because he HAS the Philosopher's Stone has he managed to circumvent and survive repeated knoweledge-extraction attempts by various would-be Dark Lords. Dumbledore's almost certainly learned stuff from him. And ... what might he be able to teach Harry?

(Posting the complete Author's Notes, with annotations from later on if you want, on , now that you have it available, would in fact be AWESOME.)

Kayleigh-DT chapter 77 . 2/11/2012
Awesome story!

If there are no new chapters this weekend, you will be forcibly glued to a time turner which in turn (ha ha) will be attached to a hamster wheel, and then that hamster will be fed until there are new chapters!
Anonymous reviewer chapter 77 . 2/10/2012
Well, this story is progressing nicely. The next few arcs ought to be rather entertaining.

I hope that a final or near-final arc has Harry doing the basic multiplication and size-estimation and realizing how small* and meaningless the Wizarding population is compared to Muggles, and trying to decide how to shatter the statute of secrecy to best start providing Muggles with the benefits of magic (e.g. long life) while using the resources of the muggle world to delve into magic (e.g. a larger, more educated populace with some elements already accustomed to science). Indeed, his mucking around on his own trying to do it all himself is ultimately going to result in people dying for no reason because the benefits of magic will take longer to reach them, when they could be investigated far more quickly and thoroughly if he dedicated a couple months to figuring out a way to shatter the Masquerade.

*According to best estimates of fans, the size of Wizarding Britain is about 15,000 people at most. That means there are literally more people with a surname "Potter" (the 222nd most common surname, at ~24,000 people with the surname) in the UK than there are actual wizarding folks in the Potter universe. Can you imagine if a book had speeches where people were concerned about the "fate of people in the UK with the last name of Potter"? Yet the fate of Wizarding Britain is presented as so wholly vital. Another fun statistic: Tiny, unimportant, and largely unknown conflicts like the Football War had probably ten or twenty times the total casualties as the First and Second Wizarding War combined.
eastern rosebud chapter 77 . 2/9/2012
Thanks for the status update! I'll be checking for the next arc, but please don't hurry - take your time and post it when you feel it's ready. We readers will wait patiently :)
Michael chapter 77 . 2/8/2012
Long time reader, first time reviewer. I love HPMoR, and am a MoR evangelist.

That being said, in the interest of your lovingly patient audience, might I suggest that once you're satisfied with the chapters, releasing them once a month until they're done, rather than in a week-long glut? That'll give you time to relax for a few months, even up to half a year, before you start getting bugged again )
xxxxxx chapter 77 . 2/8/2012
Now that you've moved off (nice, their occasionally-loud ads were annoying) you should really link to the (great) hamlet fanfic at makefoil dot com. Not affiliated with me in any way. I was assuming that the only reason you hadn't already was that ff's rules prevented you from linking to something paid.

Everyone else who's waiting for an update, get and read the hamlet fanfic.

I'm just waiting for the rational-rosencrantz-and-guildenstern-are-dead fanfic - a rational!fanfic of (an existentialist!fanfic of a tragic!classic and (a rational!fanfic of (a classic and (a rational!fanfic of a juvenile!bestseller)))).
Channitut chapter 77 . 2/7/2012
This is awesome. Everything is complicated and exciting. This story makes me think. Sometimes it's very funny. Thanks for writing it.
Bloomy chapter 77 . 2/7/2012
I was going to review your story mainly to point out that your links have vanished (I wanted to link the pdf version to a friend of mine). But then I saw that somebody else did that already.

I like your fanfiction, I think it's the best fanfiction I've read so far (I haven't read that many though but there's the next part) and I like it more than the original Harry Potter story (now that says a lot). And it's definitely in the top 5 storys I've read so far.

Thanks for writing this story.
jakkdl chapter 77 . 2/6/2012
Loving it, record so far was staying up 7 hours since bedtime only to read this. Way better than original Harry Potter. Eagerly waiting for the next chapter(s).

Have any clue how long this will be? Will it ever finish? Keep in mind that it's good to finish it before you die, or get some new job or something that makes you unable to keep writing.
Anon chapter 77 . 2/6/2012
Does it really even matter? At all?
TheOddOne chapter 77 . 2/6/2012
You should rename this fic to 'Harry Potter and the Methods of Delaying Updates'.
anon chapter 77 . 2/6/2012
Just so you know, according to J. K. Rowling, Quirrell was a Ravenclaw. Ouch.
Crazed Uncle chapter 77 . 2/6/2012
You know, no matter how many times I reread this, it just keeps getting better.
orbit chapter 77 . 2/5/2012
Thank you for putting up regular status updates-it's very nice to know where you are in the process of writing, and I check regularly. I'm very eager to see what comes next, and look forward to 7:00 PST every day.
ClaverkIII chapter 77 . 2/5/2012
This is getting rather preposterous. It has been almost exactly five months since the last chapter posting, and rationality is beginning to slip out of my life. I thought the previous hiatus was of far too great a length of time, and so I read the entirety of the work again. However, I cannot bring myself to try to read the length of the story every time there is a break in the publishing action. The status updates, which I'm sure are meant to be hopeful reminders that there has not been total abandonment, are instead rather frustrating. The knowledge that there lie a further three completed chapters and a fourth nearly completed is painful.

This story has changed my life, and I will admit that it has made me impatient for yet more growth. It is one of the only things that I constantly look forward to, and I have begun to lapse into indifference. The only thing continuing to connect me to this story-the plot of which I have nearly forgotten in the last five months-is seeing it in my bookmarks every day and hoping that there may be a new glimmer of rationality in my life. I am getting ready to simply abandon this work if it does not update soon. I can't keep holding on to something that doesn't seem to be holding back.
Daniel H chapter 77 . 2/4/2012
I love this story so far, and I like the Less Wrong website, which I only found because of this story. I hope that Harry gets around to teaching Hermione how to cast a Patronus Charm soon, as well as whoever else he trusts with the ability to cast the True Patronus (not Quirrel, I hope; he may do something like spread the secret ensuring that few people if anybody can cast regular patroni), and that they actually go about making Azkaban a prison instead of a Hell. I really see absolutely no reason for them to delay in this.

Maybe this is the series of chapters you're currently working on, though I find myself doubting it. I will trust you that the next chapter's series should be kept together, and I would hate if you had released the chapters slowly, only to regularly end on the kind of cliffhanger seen in TSPE chapters. However, could you please post another status update? You said on Jan 19 that you wanted to finish Chapter 81 before posting, and you said on Jan 20 that you had a complete draft of Chapter 81. I don't know if fanfiction counts as "formal" writing as far as your writing speed is concerned, but I would have expected that by now you would have had a chance to review chapter 81 or to start writing chapter 82. Thus, I'd appreciate knowing whether you were planning on waiting for more chapters, or if you are reviewing the current chapters to make them better, and if the former, how many more chapters you expect will be needed.

Thank you very much for writing and keeping this story updated so far, and for providing the status updates you have; most authors just post the chapters when they're done or on a regular schedule, and don't explain anything when they're late or when they've abandoned a story. One author in particular wrote that eight more chapters should be coming, and then appears to have abandoned the story without bothering to say "Oops, actually not. Bye." This was years ago, so it can't just be a slow update. Again, I strongly appreciate your actually giving updates.

-Daniel H
randomgenius chapter 77 . 2/4/2012
Santa Claus is Nicholas Flamel, yes? It makes sense, what with the whole 'Saint Nick' thing, and him being a mysterious old wizard...

In other news, I think this story changed my life. Good job.


ceaser chapter 77 . 2/4/2012
This may be my favourite of all the fiction ive read so far.
wobster109 chapter 77 . 2/3/2012
Please keep writing, Mr. Eliezer!
Anon chapter 77 . 2/3/2012
Having completed my second complete re-read of the series during the long, lonely hours without any updates, I just wanted to congratulate you on crafting some of the most delightful reading that I have ever come across.
anon chapter 77 . 2/3/2012
How's chapter 81 coming along? Any progress since last update?
RedundantRedundancy chapter 77 . 2/2/2012
I've really enjoyed reading up to this point, and I'm interested to see where this will go! Keep up the hard work, and take your time with the next chapters, no rush!
NewFanFictionFan chapter 77 . 2/2/2012
Wow! Very good writing. Good plot and characterization. Very funny, I haven't laughed so much in years. When you publish your own novel, I will definitely be there on the first day it hits the store.

Thank you for your hard work in putting this together. Please keep going, I'm waiting eagerly for the next chapter.

Sage chapter 77 . 2/1/2012
Hallo Author Lord! I'm feeling a bit ill, nothing on my bookshelf looks interesting, so I'm re-reading some chapters to cheer myself up. Thought I'd drop a review to remind you that you're awesome. :) [Seriously, take as much time as you need writing. Once this fic finishes, I'll have to addict myself to some other series.]
An Unknown Number chapter 77 . 1/30/2012
Wow. I'd just like to say thank you very much for writing this. It's amazing and I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it so far. I'm also kind of blaming you (but in a good way!) for the fact that I've got absolutely no work done since I discovered this fic. I had to keep reading and I'll definitely be recommending it to friends. So yeah, thank you. I hope you're having as much fun writing it as we are reading it.
skeptical scientist chapter 77 . 1/29/2012
I'm really excited for the next section. I've just been rereading HPMOR for the third time (!), and when I got to the end of what's currently been written, I checked the author notes in case there was any hint of when you might give us an update. I'm glad that this project hasn't been forgotten, and that you're still posting regular updates on your progress, at least, if not the story. Thank you very much for that—it's good to be kept in the loop—and thank you for writing this.
Tacitus The Younger chapter 77 . 1/29/2012
Very nice. I devoured your story in the past week, since David Brin posted a link to it on his blog. I hardly dared hope that someone might write a fan-fic that is at least as good as the original! Normally someone who can write this well should be working on their own novel - but then, I'm presuming, of course. No doubt you are in fact doing exactly that, and I'm only glad you have found the time for this little labor of love. _

In any event, I very much look forward to the next chapters.

Just one more thing, and I'll assume the nature of my namesake: When I go to your profile page, there are a bunch of things that that seem like they ought to be links, e.g. to get the PDF, or see the fan art, but none of them are links. I am at a loss. Am I doing something wrong?
Lilybet chapter 77 . 1/29/2012
Complex, maddening, confusing, insightful, explanative, (feeling very glad I took psych & phil at uni), worrying. This fic is well writen with excellent characterisation and nary a flaw in the grammar. An utterly unique idea. I question its attitude towards death - since without death there can be no change and without change there can be no life. My favourite scene remains the beginning between Harry & Draco, I thought that was beautiful and well-imagined. LB
Chloe chapter 77 . 1/29/2012
You've changed haven't u? I don't remember a lot of thos stuff happening before... anyways, words cannot descine how thrilled i am that u r continuing this awesomesauce story and have not abandoned it. Thank you thank you and thank you
Anon chapter 77 . 1/28/2012
I would hate to see the quality drop because your rushing.

When the chapters are ready (And only then.) post them.

Two saying come to mind:

Haste makes waste, and patience is a virtue.
Kelsey chapter 77 . 1/28/2012
Just wanted to let you know how much I really, really enjoy this story. This is noteworthy, given that I don't like Harry Potter and I live in fear of fanfiction. I do, however, love science, and after finishing all the (current) chapters myself I've been reading this to my little sister. It gives me a chance to explain a little physics and a little philosophy, and it has sparked many fruitful discussions about human psychology. I'm writing my thesis right now, and this provides a welcome break. I also got a big kick out of Harry's explanation of the great mystery of DNA, since my thesis concerns my work in a genetics lab (heterozygosity/fitness correlation stuff, mostly). I've started using the paper analogy on the exceptionally confused Freshmen. Anyway, my sincere thanks. You've pulled off that rare combination of humor and intelligence that is distressingly deficient in most fiction. Job well done.
Hmmmm chapter 77 . 1/28/2012
Is it the case for anyone else that the links on the author's page aren't working?
morcheller chapter 77 . 1/27/2012
With regards to this comment in your author's notes: "Next update at 7PM Pacific Time of whatever day." Kindly take two giant steps to the west and commence holding your breath!
optimaltable chapter 77 . 1/27/2012
I have decided that upon reading your story for the third time I should feel ashamed for not leaving a review sooner.

First of all, I loved the HP series but, having myself been raised on a healthy diet of science fiction from H.G. Wells all the way to John Scalzi, I couldn't help but balk at Harry's lack of true ambition and curiosity. HP:MOR is the series I have wanted since page 15 of The Philosopher's Stone. Thank you!

Your story brings to mind the great sci-fi of the seventies - books where intelligent characters confronted with wholly new technologies really explore the outer limits of the new possible.

Take your time, know that I appreciate what you are doing, and may you not die before death is dead.
adkjfkldjf chapter 77 . 1/27/2012
I love your story so much. I've been reading it for a very long time, and I absolutely love it. I reread it often when I'm in a poor mood. I can't wait for the next update; I check twice a week for it. I do want a good update though, so I am okay with waiting for the arc to be finished.


Anyway, your story is really incredible. I wanted my name on this review to be something witty and impressive that also conveyed my affection for this story, but then I couldn't think of anything.

So you'll just have to imagine that I was witty and impressive.
Obscurica chapter 77 . 1/27/2012
Am I loving this fic? Yes, I think I rather do. There is, however, one noteworthy issue regarding the latter parts of its text: namely its descent into drama at cost of the surrealist levity found at the beginning of the series.

This may not necessarily be a bad thing, but as far as the reading is concerned, it seems clear that while your ambitions are towards a gripping drama, your actual strengths are in the dry humor of the earlier dozen chapters. Rather than insist that you return the series to the days of lighthearted pranks, however, I merely caution that the weaker facets of your literary style are somewhat exposed - and that just as a hero's peril increase with his or her strength, so too does that of his allies, in whatever form their own personal strengths might take.

And it has been quite a very long while since we've seen Harry's first two friends, yes? I very much doubt the Weasley twins will take too kindly to having their own capabilities simply ignored amid the growing drama. There is, after all, value in laughing in the face of fears...
pika318 chapter 77 . 1/26/2012
It took me many days, but I finally finished all the current chapters.

I really appreciate you writing this, because I have never read such an intellectual fic before, and that there are no silly things that turned me off from the original series to begin with, like fights between close friends simply because of romance and jealousy.

Looking forward to the next chapter!
iamthexenophile chapter 77 . 1/26/2012
just a line to say thank you for the updates in between posts! it's really reassuring to know that we're not forgotten! i hope you're having fun writing
JelloRaptor chapter 77 . 1/26/2012
Hey Elizer, i just wanted to thank you for writing this wonderful fic, and while you didn't introduce me to rationality, you introduced me to less wrong, and that has been an immense influence in my life. On that note, i wanted to ask you to consider a slightly different release policy. Now that you have a backlog, instead of releasing them in a burst, could you please release them once a month or so? It'd give you a bunch of leeway, give you a nice fuzzy deadline to push you forward and give us (the reader) a steady update cycle.


Kitsune Akero chapter 77 . 1/25/2012
I just read all chapters in a day XD

I must say I'm loving it, and that I really like the personalities you constructed for Harry and all that awesome scientific methodology included, as someone who studies engeneering and has seen or is starting to see what this Harry knows was a really pleasant surprise X3 I even remembered some clases while reading...kinda, where the things applied to what I have studied.

I'll look forward to keep reading and will wait for the next but awesome update.
Anonymous Coward chapter 77 . 1/25/2012

I just read your last two bio-updates and wanted to add my voice to those who appreciate the status updates and that you're finishing the complete arc before posting any chapters.

Thank you a thousand times for the story, you have a knack for writing stories with believable characters, excellent plot and my kind of humor. If only there were more people of your caliber around, the world would truly be a better place.
AWL chapter 77 . 1/25/2012
I've had the dubious pleasure of talking/arguing with some very religious people recently. I felt Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres next to me every time I tried to point out the logical inconsistencies in the arguments I was hearing. ("What do you mean, there's better evidence that the Torah was handed down from G-d than that other holy books were? What do you mean, "evidence?" The fact that the book itself says that it is true does not constitute evidence!")

I'm also training to teach high school science, and reading this fic is a wonderful reminder of the beauty of scientific thinking. I can't imagine I'll be assigning this to my students, at least in its entirety, but I look forward to recommending it, and to using it as inspiration for my own lessons.

Thanks so much for this gift.

Leah chapter 77 . 1/24/2012
Since you say you read all your reviews, I do apologize if my previous reviews gave you a bad feeling. I truly meant to express only my enthusiasm for your story and how happy I will be when I get to read more of it. Any frustration in tone came from checking obsessively for updates (not being a member) and one's impatience can get out of hand. I'm sure I speak for others as well. Of course the story is entirely your own and you can update it when you please. It is a truth universally acknowledged that back-edits are important.

Your story is wonderful. I don't know how you do it. I often have trouble in conversations about anything intellectual without constantly referring to things I have learned from reading your story. And I've nearly finished reading Influence and I also got Predictable Irrationality which reminds me of HPMOR. New understanding of why Harry worries about pressure of internal consistency when Ravenclaws vote on him taking a penalty (not realizing that the date had been set up in advance).

On theories: I saw another reviewer saying that Snape is the one talking to Hermione as Mr. Incredibly Suspicious. Intrigued about his motives in all this. He is def. not Santa Claus, he didn't give Harry the Cloak that's for sure.

I saw a lot of comments online taking for granted that quirrelvoldie which seems strange bc quirrel is rational in ways that LV wasn't. no "I notice that I am confused."

Also, I want to know what Trelawney saw at the end of 63.

In short, keep up the good work! Whenever you feel like doing so!
Anonymous chapter 77 . 1/24/2012
Wow, I read through this once when you were only done 20 chapters or so and recently started encountering some logic/morals topics and it reminded me strongly of your story. Coming back and reading through it all again was very satisfying and then to find an additional 50 some chapters even more so. The believability and obvious thought that's gone into creating the logic and scenarios you put forth are very impressive. I actually find myself testing my own beliefs against most of the moral arguments you make throughout the fanfiction and finding my own morals lacking in some regards :P Can't wait for the next update!

Hope to be seeing more soon,

-A Huge Fan
Greg chapter 77 . 1/24/2012
nice fic
jschmoe chapter 77 . 1/23/2012
Status updates make me incredibly happy! Thank you! One of my biggest fears is that this whole project is suddenly going to disappear one day, and hearing you say that it's still at the front of your mind is really comforting.
Random Fan chapter 77 . 1/23/2012
I'm sure you know this already, but those of us who aren't being selfishly irrational and/or paranoid really appreciate all the work you put into HPMoR. I mean really! You even came up with a solution for those of us who would have long died of starvation from hitting the reward ... err ... I mean refresh button continually (only update 7pm PST). Along that line of thought, if you think it may be months between updates perhaps saying you will update only on Sun. 7pm would work too and give an indication of how close you are to an update?
Meadow7 chapter 77 . 1/23/2012
the most

AMAZING story ever

thank you
tuulahti chapter 77 . 1/23/2012
This story has made me laugh until I thought I'd pass out and cry not out of sadness, but out of beauty.

I'd obviously like to read more soon :)

Honkasaloz chapter 77 . 1/22/2012
Hey just finished reading the entire 77 chapters. love love love love the work you've done, and i've become such a HUGE HUGE fan.

I'm from finland, so even up here in the cold there are people who really apprecate your story :D.

And as someone who thinks of themself as fairly rational and educated, i am really pleased.

Keep up the great work. Dunno if you read many of these comments but i would like to know how long this story is going to be when you finish? i mean harry is in his first year, and he can't possibly beat voldemort before he grows up a bit no matter how smart he is, because i assume voldemort (if he comes back) will be an overpowered beast.

Well here's to hoping i live long enough to see the end of HPMoR.

Keep up the good work buddy.
KJ chapter 77 . 1/22/2012
Thanks for all the status updates!

I have been rereading some chapters/arcs in anticipation of the next chapters, and I must say that it gets even better with a second read. I particularly enjoy chapters about Snape, I hope you continue incorporating him more and more into the main plot.
Thanks for the read chapter 77 . 1/22/2012
Not sure if this will ever update again, but just want to let you know that I'm seriously considering a Master's in statistics after reading your story. I read this back in July and have been keeping an eye on the site now and then to see if more chapters come down the chute, so this wasn't an epiphany or anything. I've basically been told to go get my degree and assumed I'd get an MBA since I work full-time... but maybe it's worth knuckling down and undertaking a more scientific discipline. Bayesians unite!
A Hungry Dragon chapter 77 . 1/22/2012
This fanfiction is the best I've encountered so far in all of cyberspace. It almost seems unfair that J.K Rowling earned millions while "Less Wrong" is quite clearly the better author. Any chance we can get an original work some day ? In any case, as an engineer myself, I appreciate the importance given to scientific thinking in this story. Keep up the great work.
Eli Courtwright chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
Glad to hear that new chapters are coming along nicely. Don't listen to the detractors - hatters are gonna hate. Just remember that delays are temporary, while mediocrity is forever, and MoR is never mediocre!
Shebali chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
Look alive!
DonLyn chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
I just started to read the last chapter again, since I wanted a refresher on where the story stands before the announced flurry of updates hits. I wanted nothing but a rough overview, but once again I was hooked within a single paragaph and found it unthinkable to stop reading prematurely. Sometimes I almost think this fic should be abandoned, simply because it seems to possess such an unholy power over my soul.

Then I remember that I'm an atheist and everything is all right :P

I'm looking forward to the release of the updates, be it tomorrow or next year. I have faith that they will be more than worth the wait.

Though if they don't come soon I may just have to read the previous 77 chapters again to tide me over.

Ah, the sacrifices we make...
Sincerely chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
Thank you for the status update.
lowasser chapter 77 . 1/21/2012

I trust your judgement on your writing and posting schedule. Do what you have to do. I'll be waiting to read it.
Lucius Malfoy chapter 77 . 1/21/2012

I am pregnant

With your mindchild

I will not abort

Thank you
zilius chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
Hi! I've only recently been introduced to your writings, been through HPMoR and Haruhi fanfic so far, but your writing is really brilliant! I find your take on Harry Potter more entertaining and satisfying compared to the original, though credits to Rowling for creating such a beautiful, detailed and fascinating world. My favorite part would definitely be the war games, it's definitely much more exciting than Quidditch. It's great the way you explored some of the other minor characters as well, and Quirrell as a dark mentor was certainly an unexpected but brilliant move.

It's also great to see updates, knowing that this fanfic is still going on. Make sure you write the best that you can, because writing a story is not about how fast you write, but how great your story will be; so make it a masterpiece alright?

And of course, thanks for writing.


Gary chapter 77 . 1/21/2012
I've been reading this for ages, and just wanted to take a moment to say that it is not only a story I've really enjoyed reading, but that I'm glad that it also directed me to the sequences on Less Wrong, which I also enjoyed hugely, and have made a small, but noticeable, difference to how I think, for the better (I think).

Also, ignore anyone demanding updates, I just want more of the story, when it comes is immaterial so long as it is finished. Because I really want to know how this all goes.
SurahAhriman chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Seeing the latest update, I must admit that I was getting rather antsy after the previous one. But just that little note about backwards edits dispelled it. I'd have been thrilled with a completed chapter, even the worst cliffhanger ever. But if it can't truly be considered "completed", that's a whole different story. Keep up the amazing work, at whatever pace suits you best.
MarkusQ chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Just another heartfelt thanks and strong endorsement of the "post when you feel it's ready" point of view. I'll admit, I check back every day to see if there's anything new up, but I am persistent precisely because of the quality of your work. I trust your judgement and am willing to wait on your decision without feeling the need to jostle your elbow. I've literally waited decades for some authors, and have been grateful when they shared the fruits of their long labors.

I intend to accord you the same respect.
Final-Fan chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Did you really mean to write "SPELLETS"? It seems to me that I recall (perhaps in error) that it used to be "SETS", and if you decided to change it to "SPELLSETS" I can easily believe you could forget to add the second S.
Aldous Horcruxley chapter 77 . 1/20/2012

After having read HPatMoR three times straight from "every inch" to "precious to her," the least I can do is leave a comment expressing my heartfelt thanks for all the care, passion, and unbridled rationality that you have painstakingly and sweatily infused into this work. I have been fortunate enough to have friends who were as amenable as I to MoR, and thanks to you we have spent many amusing hours of conversation speculating upon topics ranging from the true endgame of Mr. Voldinus Quirrelmort, to the optimal combat strategy to be adopted by two witches or wizards, armed with time-turners (hypothetically set to increments ranging from 1 second to 1 hour), engaged in a duel to the death, when they may or may not be aware of the number of turns left on the opponent's time-turner.

Also, as a direct result of MoR, I have also been working through your main sequences as well as browsing assorted other articles posted at LessWrong, Overcoming Bias and elsewhere. No doubt this was all a part of your intricate master plot.


A Fan

P.S. Feel free to take as much time as you need to make your story arcs as coherent and well-reasoned as possible. Judging from the material so far, whatever you feel fit to post will be worth the wait. In any case, I am patient; I estimate that I have around 60 years left on this earth (perhaps more, if cryonics has anything to say about it) and so long as I get to read the completed HPatMoR before my entire lifespan is up, that will suffice.
fazinmos chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
I read your most recent update - the one about people posting angry reviews asking for the next chapters- and I thought- 'have they read this story, or merely touched it with their eyes?'

I am also waiting for the new chapters, perhaps almost as fervently as these other people are. Daily I check whether the new work is visible, and usually I reread a chapter or two to assuage the disappointment. I can't wait to find out the other ends of so many plot threads that you have written. But I do know that sometimes there are too many and not all can be wrapped up... so if you leave one or several out, in the end I will just make up endings in my mind and it will be all right.

Several of my friends have read this work- mostly beginning it casually and then reading it (the first 77ish chapters) over the course of one or two fevered days- a private mental orgy that consumed them like alchemical fire. The story was introduced by me to my mother of all people- if she reads fanfiction generally I certainly don't know about it-

In fact, I unexpectedly found out that my boyfriend had read it, back when there were only 40 or so chapters- a fact that makes me think rather more highly of him, frankly. I have met excellent people on OKC thanks to [HPMOR]... so in short, thank you. And I am sorry about the trolls.

About this chapter specifically... I do enjoy it. I don't think I play at a level which can usefully critique it, frankly. My untrained rationality sees nothing that it interprets as a mistake.
NotImplementedExcepton chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Thanks for the update! I'm eagerly awaiting further posts, but I understand the need to work through the storyline before posting. Incidentally I'd like to note how much I've learned (or been motivated to find out) by this fic. Since starting it I've made a new effort to think about how I think. Even though I'm frequently irrational, I often catch myself doing it.

I also recently hooked a new fan on your awesome story!
cls81690 chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Please post, dearheart. I know it's a struggle to balance writing with the rest of the world, but carry on. You've got a good thing going here.
Person chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
I agree 100% with everything that "xxxxx" said.
Reader chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Sorry for being obnoxious. I was this guy:

"Everybody wants you to just update! I think everybody would prefer you to just release them as they're done, even if they do end on a cliff-hanger. I get really happy when I see an update, but I don't get two times as happy when I see you've uploaded two chapters. However, I am two times as happy when I see an update on 2 separate days. Anyway, if chapter C is going to come out on a given date, then I would prefer chapter A and B to come out as soon as possible once finished. I think that's the case for many of your readers."

I don't think I was one of the worst offenders, but I can see how a comment like mine could build with the others to for a very angry seeming consensus. Sorry about that, really. I love this fanfiction so much. I've read it a bunch of times. It's honestly a significant part of my life.

Anyway, I wanted to publicly (though Anonymously) revise what I said earlier in response to the new information.

A) Since you are doing backwards edits to make the arc more cohesive, it makes sense to write until you don't think you'll do any more of that. Foreshadowing is awesome.

B) I totally wasn't thinking about "tension" before, but your mention of its relation to humor made me notice another reason that what you're doing is (maybe) prudent. Tension fades when you don't post a chapter for a while. People have said this a few times in reviews: that they can't remember what's happening, that the story's momentum was suffering from the lack of updates. I don't have this problem, but if the drama/tension or whatever is going to have to fall, it makes sense for it to happen after a chapter like 77 rather than during an arc in which you are trying to build tension (I'm very excited that there will be tension. Tension sounds exciting).

Anyway, thanks for this great story. I would like to state my preference for the release of chapters as clumps rather than in a drawn out sequence (when all of the chapters are ready and you are ready to release them). I'm not sure if this is a common preference, as I can imagine others liking to see more updates over a drawn out period rather than a bunch of chapters all at once. Also, in the absence of new chapters, I very much like updates. I suspect this is near universal. Anyway, I thought it would be helpful for your model of your audience to see that I, as a part of your audience, have that preference. Alas, your update pace is up to you, and my last attempt to state logically why I wanted you to update was rather flummoxed by the information I was missing.

P.S. It's a bit crazy to me that someone still took an accusatory tone and insulted you about not posting the new chapters EVEN AFTER YOUR MOST RECENT UPDATE. To me it seemed a great statement of why you weren't posting (I do wish you made the backwards-editing thing clear earlier, but it was my bad for not thinking of that possibility). On top of that, it explicitly stated that those types of reviews were detrimental to your writing experience, which is, of course, detrimental to us all. It seems rude and irrational (instrumentally) to insult someone after they tell you that such an insult is 1) something that darkens their day and 2) something that could make updates come more slowly, especially when writing to someone to whom you are (presumably) very grateful.

This story has changed my life. Thank you.

A kid on the internet.
JPut chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Thanks for the update and thanks for continuing. Don't listen to the haters, if you want to wait until you finish the entire story before posting anything go for it, all I really request is updates occasionally just to know that it's still in progress.
mako bates chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
I like reading blocks of chapters all in a couple days. Thanks for your work, and I apologize if my peers are under-appreciative.
LippyJ chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Having seen your most recent update, I resurrected a very old account just to write this review.

This is a fantastic work, and updating with part of an arc would make the wait for the rest of aforementioned arc excruciating. You are completely justified in holding back the whole arc, and those taking the "delay" as an affront clearly lack the cerebral capacity to fully appreciated the situation.
anon chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Letting me know the reason for the delay makes it a lot more tolerable. Thank you.
Kelly chapter 77 . 1/20/2012
Reread this last chapter, because one, it is probably one of my favorites, and two, I'm waiting for more. Now I can't say I'm not complaining, because I am... But in a nice way. I realize that it must take quite an awful amount of effort to write the way you do, and I'd much rather wait four month(!) for your insanly awesome writing, then be given anything of lesser value just so you wouldn't have whiners... But, I want more. So yes I'm complaining... You should take as a compliment you dragon-y hoarder of awesomness!

Thank you for continuing to write despite your life, and those horrid people... But really. Take it as a compliment that they can get so angry over this, and hopefully you will continue to associate positivity with HPMOR!

Everlasting rationality!

Reader chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
Everybody wants you to just update! I think everybody would prefer you to just release them as they're done, even if they do end on a cliff-hanger. I get really happy when I see an update, but I don't get two times as happy when I see you've uploaded two chapters. However, I am two times as happy when I see an update on 2 separate days. Anyway, if chapter C is going to come out on a given date, then I would prefer chapter A and B to come out as soon as possible once finished. I think that's the case for many of your readers.
Grek chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
Calling it now: When Severus says "THOSE TWO DIFFERENT SPELLETS", it isn't a weird way of pronouncing "two different spirits", but actually means what it says; two different spellets- two different parts of a spell. Specifically, the horcrux spell.

The Voldemort that founded the Death Eaters and attacked Harry as a baby is a horcrux of Quirrell that got a body for itself and went nuts with it. Now that Harry is a horcrux due to Voldemort's actions, he is Voldemort's co-horcrux and equal. Either can destroy all but a remnant of the other by being activated in the event of Quirrell's death.

Meanwhile, Mr. Hat&Cloak is none other than Lockhart, a wizard in canon known to be good at three things; household charms, glamour spells and memory charms. He's simply realized how dead useful that combination is, despite canon!Lockhart's utter failure to use his talents productively.
westmin chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
I am sure that chapter 78 will be great as what you have written so far is simply amazing. I have really enjoyed this fanfic and can see O. influence, i hope you will update soon.
Wrathkal chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
Utterly gripping... amazing number of reviews too.
yamiyug3 chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
This chapter tore at my heart and made me slightly sad for Severus and Rianne. Severus for not having had those experiences in his life that make it worth living, and Rianne for having some of them taken from her after somewhat lackluster culmination of a dream come true. I truly hope that you will continue to create wonderful chapters for years to come. I look forward to reading your works again soon.

P.S. Can we also have Harry getting back to more science research on Magic? I love all his experiments!
Amy chapter 77 . 1/19/2012
I love this story so much, its a shame you havnt updated for a while but im looking forward to when you do!
jschmoe chapter 77 . 1/18/2012
Eliezer, the way you are choosing to release updates is not working. Honestly, the growing gaps are causing this story to lose its charm - I have lost all sense of what is happening in the story, and I don't know if I want to read 448,000 words again to bring me up to speed.

But more importantly, when you say things like "I have a chapter done and if I don't finish the next one soon I'll release it before too long" and don't do anything for three weeks, you alienate your readers and cause them to lose trust in you. I speak for myself, but glancing at the other reviews I am hardly alone in this. It's not even the length of time that's the problem, it's the inconsistency. If you released chapters every month on the month, I would have no problem. But as it is, checking for updates has become a chore that has less and less frequent positive reinforcement, and I fear that you are losing your audience.
Sunny chapter 77 . 1/18/2012
Your awesome!
Guest chapter 77 . 1/18/2012
For petes sake. Update! We want the cliffhanger!
Rosline chapter 77 . 1/18/2012
anon chapter 77 . 1/18/2012
I'd like to echo the previous two reviewers.

Just post the damn chapters already!
another concerned reader chapter 77 . 1/17/2012
I agree completely. Please release tge two finished chapters.
Bored chapter 77 . 1/17/2012
I remember when I first started this fic, and I absolutely LOVED it. Every minute I would spent reading it and rereading it, it was really the best fanfic I've ever read. But after a few months waiting on the same chapter, I have begun to lose alot of interest in it. I have had to resort to reading other fics that are not nearly as enjoyable, but atleast they're updated frequently. As a reader and from looking at other comments from other readers, I can say almost for sure that WE DONT CARE about the cliffhangers NEARLY as much as we would like frequent updates. Please, on behalf of the readers, post every chapter singularily as soon as you get done with it. It helps for us not to lose interest and remember all the past details in the story. Please. I beg you.


A concerned reader.
7thtreasure chapter 77 . 1/17/2012
OMG.I wish I could have started reading this when it had just begun so I could have reviewed each chapter but now that I've just started, I couldn't stop myself from blazing through the chapters and for the first time completing 24 hours straight of not sleeping. Took me a few more hours to get to this last chapter...

and I have to say, Daaaaaaayum. I have completely been blown away by the genius of this work. I giggled, then laughed, then chortled, then choked on mostly spit and coffee, then sobbed, then laughed again, then had my heart strings tugged in such a way that made it hard to choose whether to smile or cry.

You made me empathize with your characters, understand their flaws and love them for it anyway. I loved that you created and wrote something so great it was able to provoke people into thought and not just about the plot but what it means to live, to think, to be human and such.

I honestly admit, I never thought to find something so intricate and so lovingly written but hey, 15K reviews is good sign, right? I expected the plot to go in some directions when I thought I finally had a grasp of at least a tiny part of what you were telling but then it would go in wholly different unexpected directions, throwing me off into the bliss of unexpected turns of events.

I love this fic. Every word of it. I respect J.K. Rowling and I had enjoyed HP and appreciate it having been written but for now, this will be my canon. I have fallen in love with your characters, your writing style, and the way you weave everything together into something awesome.
Nikola Dachev chapter 77 . 1/17/2012
Dear Mr. Yudkowsky,

first I'm writing to again say thank you for your impressive work so far on this fiction. Your work has lead me to many questions, and some answers to them and I love that!

Second I'm writing to show you my support and wish you to have what it takes to complete your work at your disposal! I wish you good health, happy relations and productive environment! I also wish you high efficiency! After all the work done to move from state A to state B is always constant regardless of the power spent!

Cheers to you and all readers!
Nick chapter 77 . 1/16/2012
Please update!
Livefox96 chapter 77 . 1/15/2012
Dibs on a PPC for this It's a good Fan Fiction and all but to cap off the crowning moment of awesome I think it needs some Protectors of the Plot Continuum busting in and charging Harry James Evan-Verres Potter with breaking continuum ALOT
Dan7315 chapter 77 . 1/14/2012
"Update 12/28: Ch. 79 done at 6,700 words. I think I'll see if I can get this entire arc done before I start posting it"

You might want to take your own advice...

"Muggle researchers have found that people are always very optimistic, like they say something will take two days and it takes ten, or they say it'll take two months and it takes over thirty-five years. Like, they asked students for times by which they were 50% sure, 75% sure, and 99% sure they'd complete their homework, and only 13%, 19%, and 45% of the students finished by those times. And they found that the reason was that when they asked people for their best-case estimates if everything went as well as possible, and their average-case estimates if everything went as normal, they got back answers that were statistically indistinguishable."
pinkumbrellicorn chapter 77 . 1/14/2012
It's been more than four months. :( Please, please, please upload the new chapter. I'm getting tired of visiting this story every odd day to check, and I might just stop if there isn't anything to check. I don't think the readers care if the arc's done, I think they just want another fracking addition to the story!
Auffasser chapter 77 . 1/13/2012
I just caught up with the fic after reading for several days in a row. From reading, I am inspired to pursue a broader understanding of science and scientific method (rather than relating everything to biology). I love the litanies of Gendel and Tarski.

I think rationalist fiction is my new favorite genre

Thanks for your very entertaining, sometimes sobering, writing. I look forward to the next chapter.

P.S. There was one point I found odd; I find the idea of ending death rather implausible. Maintaining any living thing indefinitely would be difficult (unless the second law of thermodynamics is a non-issue), ending all causes of death ("accidents" involving pointy objects, for example) would be [nigh] impossible. Reproduction would also have to nearly stop (for the sake of maintaining a stable population). I suppose it would all be part and parcel with optimizing the world, though.
Defected to others chapter 77 . 1/13/2012
Alright. I finished up to this point, and I love your story, even though I feel like your characters go over my head a lot, it's been good for me to really think about things like this. Now, that said, there's just one thing that's been really bothering me. The incantation to wake someone up is not 'innervate' but 'rennervate.' It used to be 'ennervate' and then it was renamed. I get that's it's probably far too late to go back and fix it now, but can you fix it in the future? It's my one pet peeve in the story. I love everything else, even if I don't get it, and I think you're absolutely brilliant to come up with everything that you do.
Forever waiting chapter 77 . 1/13/2012
So you say that you want to complete chapter 79 before you put up 78 simply because 78 ends on a cliffhanger. We have waited for an absurd amount of time already with almost zero contact from you, the author. Without a doubt you must be losing readers at this point and will lose more if you do not soon update. It's a fantastic story but forcing us to wait this long and then saying the next chapter wont be published until you've written another chapter more than that is simply insulting.
Ugh chapter 77 . 1/12/2012
You're kidding.
NewChapter chapter 77 . 1/12/2012

Fenrir, yeah, I think those are pretty reasonable.
we are chapter 77 . 1/12/2012
arithine chapter 77 . 1/12/2012
I finished what you have lomg ago but just now decided to review I've been meaning to a long time, I was just waiting for a new chapie to go up but now I got tired of waiting so here we go...

Amazing, simply amazing. This was the first fanfiction I ever read and it had(has) me hooked. I love the way all of the charcters are done, throwing out th almost two dimensional chars of the origional and mak
him-mione chapter 77 . 1/12/2012
stop with the tantra and post the next chapter already. Just go for the release!
lowelj chapter 77 . 1/12/2012
Im bored of checking every single day...
Sexy General Patton chapter 77 . 1/11/2012
N.B. If you're waiting for an update, don't bother begging the author for release. His kink is orgasm denial. His kryptonite, on the other hand, is slashfic. You know what to do, men.
A non-moose chapter 77 . 1/11/2012
Eliezer. Buddy. Friend.

Post the bloody chapters.

I can understand the idea that you want to wait until you get the arc done, but it's been four months. That's a bit on the longish side of things. Don't get me wrong, I think you're an excellent author and essayist, and usually your judgement is spot on, but my god, man.
TheallknowingandUnseen chapter 77 . 1/11/2012
What I don't understand is why you put so much effort into a fanfiction. This story is great. Please update soon! :)
aiden chapter 77 . 1/11/2012
Come on, stop sitting on chapters!
Ian Maxwell chapter 77 . 1/10/2012
While things peaked somewhere in the middle, they're still excellent at this point. Unlike with most stories, I can honestly say I have no idea what will happen next, and that's exciting! I'm really looking forward to the continuation of the story, as I have been for the past... er... four months and six days.
Leah chapter 77 . 1/9/2012
okay i got Thinking Physics and Influence in the mail a few days ago, started reading them a bit. Does that make you happy? I still think you are wrong about a lot of things. But I have definitely learned a lot from reading this fic anyway. And probably will continue to learn even more, as I read these books and as you write more story.

and you still havent posted a new chapter? Please. Come on. Just one.
InPain chapter 77 . 1/9/2012
Gahhhhhhh! Release the chapters!
John A chapter 77 . 1/8/2012
I have read the entire fic at least four times. (Each time there has been more chapters to re-read, so I'm not sure what that translates to adjusted for inflation, or would it be deflation?)

Very entertaining, and a very quick/compelling read considering the length. I've read published works that dragged on much longer. Also, I have at least a dozen unread SF books, including some from series I have partially read, that have sat idle in my nightstand drawer since I saw Mr. Brin's recommendation because I keep coming back to this. (In all honesty, being able to easily read it on my phone during idle moments has been a factor, but only for the last several months. Another factor is, of course, the anticipation of possibly having a new chapter to read at the end.)

The only thing that distracts me when reading it is the lack of semicolons where they would clearly be applicable. But, having only recently learned how to use them properly myself (thanks Oatmeal!), I can't really blame you for that.

I just read your author's note of 12/25 re recursion. It puts me in mind of James Burke's Connections programs, and it occurs to me that it would be fun to read a script/essay along those lines from a time after Harry et al have successfully united magic and science/technology. I'm no writer, and wouldn't have the time to tackle it myself if I were, but if you like the idea I think it would make a great mini-project after this fic is complete. (I do hope for Harry's sake it won't have to be omake.)

Becon chapter 77 . 1/8/2012
I find it more difficult to wait for an update knowing you have many thousands of words that you could publish any moment on a whim.

One more thing. I started reading Game of Thrones last week to fill the vacuum. I finished the first book and gave up on the series. HPMOR is far superior. I was morally repulsed by the author's romance with nobility and feudalism. Some characters had cunning, but everyone was obsessed with their own families and titles. None of the characters seemed truly clever or wise like Harry or Professor Quirrell. Nobody thought to change the rules of the game.
Liam2203 chapter 77 . 1/7/2012
“There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong.”

Quirrell is no teacher...
anon chapter 77 . 1/7/2012
Vggggg is definitely a troll. Not even the most retarded people read 400K words of something boring that they hated (it takes several days to read and do you really choose the most boring way to spend your day when you get up in the morning?).
Vggggg chapter 77 . 1/7/2012
Boring I hated it
Vggggg chapter 77 . 1/7/2012
Dan7315 chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
As another reviewer pointed out, 9/6/11 was a quarter of a year ago.
AngryMob chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
We need updates! How long is too long? It's been 9 days since you've had two chapters done. That's about as much time as you said it would take you to write 78 lol. Anyway, please! It hurts to know they could be up any day now only to find again and again that no updates have been made.
L. Casablanca chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
Oh, god, I think my heart just broke from the last chapter. I know I was complaining about Snape in a review before, but this was so sad! Sooooo sad! That he never kissed anyone before? (*goes to feel sad a while before coming back and keep writing*). Anyway. To say I like this story is an understatement. Some parts are incredibly good. The Azkaban arc, for example, was adictive. The tension was VERY well created, established and solved. Your interpretation of Bellatrix (a character that I don't usually like) was surprisingly moving. And Quirrellmort passing out on Harry like that was soo mean of you! It's been a while since I was this upset for a character, and it's lucky classes don't start for another week because I just couldn't find peace until I finished this.

Also I particularly enjoy your characterization (sans Hermione, I just can't empathize with her), specially of Quirrellmort. His "It is a very strange thing" speech was... I can't even begin to describe the level of cute/weird/moving/creepy-ness that it evoked in me. This sort of moraly ambiguous characters I like a lot. His zombie-mode, his odd moods, his twisted sense of humor... all great. The same with Harry. At first I was worried that, because he was obviously so clever, he would turn out to solve everything by himself and, well, turn a typical super!Harry. But Harry's flawed temper and struggles not to be evil, ah, and how to forget his 'loss' of Quirrellmort after Azkaban, make him so incredibly appealing to me. I've really become fond of your characters.

Ok, so all in all, and since this is fanfiction, I reaaally want to thank you for writing it and really really REALLY hope you get to finish it. The truth is that I'm struggling to find my own reasons to write and trying to figure out what kind of things I like and what not, and had been a little discouraged lately. Your fic really inspired me. Encouraged me rather. So yeah, thanks! And keep the good work, I guess. XD
Daisy chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
Would like to see more Draco Harry interaction and am waiting for update.
Dear Less Wrong chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
I love this story. Keep writing, I know you can do it and I'm sure whatever you come up with will be amazing.
anon chapter 77 . 1/6/2012
Stop sitting on chapters goddamnit! :(
Helena chapter 77 . 1/5/2012
"It is an odd thing," Snape said, his voice still softer, "to look back after only thirty-two years, and wonder when your life was ruined past all rescuing". That really stuck in my head from when I read this chapter... Poor old Snape.

Thanks for getting me thinking about self actualisation and for the total awesomeness that is SPHEW!
Linda chapter 77 . 1/5/2012
Please, give us something... It's been way too long.
Miss Down chapter 77 . 1/4/2012
Thank you so much for a fantastic read. Not only was it entertaining it was also highly educational. I wanted to write a review after the very first chapter, but alas, I am an impatient and impulsive being so I simply read the next chapter, and then the next, and so on. (This is a huge compliment! I couldn't stop reading!) Now at the end of chapter 78 (or rather the interlude before it) I must say: THANK YOU! This have been one of the very best fanfictions I have ever read!
Guest chapter 77 . 1/4/2012
Fantastic fic! I first stumbled across this in its infancy, before Ch 10 was up. I remember wishing there was more at the time. Then I lost track of it for years. Imagine my delight when I followed a rec link to find there were now 77 chapters! *fan-gasm* Of course, like any fanfic follower, I am never satisfied with stopping, even after 68 chapters new to me. Hope you will post Ch 78 soon. BTW the fic rec was in a thread of "Things I have read that have changed my life". It wasn't my post, obviously, but any praise I can give will be faint compared to that.
AyameHikaru chapter 77 . 1/4/2012
Figured I might as well review at the end instead of every chapter. :P Dear author, I stand and applaud. Well, actually, I sit and chuckle, but it's much the same. This is the best fanfiction I have EVER read. I love love love all the references, especially since I recognize pretty much all of them. (Even Mornelithe Falconsbane!) I am thoroughly looking forward to any updates you do, but I will not pressure for FASTER MORE FASTER like a lot of reviewers. First, because real life is always more important than fanfiction. Second, because if I did say that and you did rush, it wouldn't be as high quality a chapter as the rest of the series. I'd prefer you to take your time and make them awesome, rather than mediocre updates every day. Third... Well, two reasons is enough, right?

Sincerely, a literal-minded fan. :)
Lendary chapter 77 . 1/4/2012
This is by far the best Fanfiction story I have ever red. I liked the original books too, but this is better by a long shot. you are a better writer then most professionals.
all forms of fluff chapter 77 . 1/3/2012
You pen name dose not suite you Less Wrong, as this story could not be more right. Yeah I am sure you have heard that before and if not then...I pitty the readers you gather. I have never laughed so hard at a work of fiction so hard, no thats a lie there is this one Naruto fanfiction where an entier training ground blows up but thats not important. The humor is astounding the logic, deep I gues as I wouldn't know, and the drama left me wipeing my eyes or clenching my fist. Hell I even enjoyed the fan art you have posted to you homepage. The only thing that I cant seem to figure out is, well how many years of Hogworts are you going to have? I can see loads of humor and Lock heart, and maybe Harry discovering the memory charm, or the Pixies. But truely if you advance past this fist year I can not forsee it being as well worked out. I do have some questions. I guess I should give them in no paticluar order as this story has consumed several days of my life.

1)How is Draco advancing in his studies with Harry, you havn't had them do an acutal test other then the ground breaking work on the muggleborn and fadding magic issue? Will there be a lab coat sesion where they grow cristles, possiable to be transfigured into other things?

2)In the Azkaban arc, was it truely Harry's "dark side" he mentaly hugged and reasured or The Invisiably Cloak?

3)Will You be transfiguring any more muggle artafacts into the Potter verse? Modle air plaines with levatating charms? Asprin from sugar cubes? How about a hover board/broom? He Would likely freak them out if he construced a hangglider from the nano tubes.

4)Hermione. At first I was ready to write her off for the majorty of the story she was kinda, well TOO Good? Did you change her character under duress or was she a intended development?

5)I can't belive I am going to complain about this but,what with how long this story already is, are Vincient and Georgy going to learn the patronim charms? And why is Harry so reluctant to use his? I know his is differently formed but is the kid experamenting with the thing? It camunacated with Harry of its own will during the jail break, has that little tidbit faild to proccess in his mind during his intro spective period after the night of the phionex

I guess that will be it, I ain't really expicting a reply from this, as most authors don't, but you should know that this is an astounding story. The depth of the emotions boggle my mind sometimes, and your intuinitive leaps are like dancing across stalagmites points and not falling some times but this is truly one of the best stories on this site. Feel proud and keep up the good work, but remember to have fun. Because if your not having fun... the whats the point of all this?
Millie chapter 77 . 1/3/2012
I was just wondering if someone could explain to me chapters 51-62 and what Harry does with his time turner. I know theres a graph on LessWrong's bio by GeeJo but that just made me more confused. Thanks! I love the story though, its amazing!
Rico Suave chapter 77 . 1/2/2012
Multiple female reviewers have asked you to post what you've written. DO IT FOR THE LADIES.
Leah chapter 77 . 1/2/2012
please post the new chapter! knowing that it is finished and i can't read it is really, really annoying. (although better than thinking that you still havent written it. I guess.)

I haven't reviewed before, because I have too much to say. I have now read this story way too many times. (an unfortunate % of those being right before project deadlines) and this story has affected me way too much. I quote it all the time, and use the psychological studies to understand things that happen, and I am going out of my way to read books about statistics and physics and Influence and its all your fault. I hope you're happy. :-) I have more I could write but I will content myself with saying, please post it!
Thank You chapter 77 . 1/2/2012
I have read this twice now, and plan to read it many more times. It's a masterpiece and has changed my life completely. It's made me realise a lot of things, but most of all the potential of teeneagers. So many of us are wasting our lives on things that don't really matter. I've recommended this to all my friends, and as a fourteen year old I just want to say, I hope that this story helps change how some teenagers behave. The characters are so well developed and deep, but I'm really confused about Quirrell. Does he have Voldemort on the back of his head? If he does he's hiding it extremely well. Please update soon, it feels like forever since you posted Chapter 77. Thankyou!
Emily chapter 77 . 1/1/2012
[response to Author's Note]

Wow, you like torturing us, don't you? I'm imagining the announcement on your blog in a couple decades...

FAI is completed. Decided not to release it until I've finished version 2.0, though. You can check back here for updates daily - I won't release until 7pm of whatever day, so you don't have to check more than once every 24 hours.

Also? Love the story. You've changed my life. Seriously. I've already donated what I could to your charity, and I'll donate more when I get a job.
Amy Quinn chapter 77 . 1/1/2012
Reviews make you happy, so thanks for this wonderful story. I'm anxiously waiting for the next chapter and I hope you never stop writing fiction. You're an excellent writer.
Alexi Karas chapter 77 . 12/29/2011
At near on 4 months, I think many of us would be glad to be given a fresh cliffhanger to wait at. Thoroughly looking forward to the next update Eliezer. :)
MMMMMMMA chapter 77 . 12/29/2011
Dammit you're a tease. :) Looking forward to you releasing the chapters instead of just mentioning that they're done.
Sam chapter 77 . 12/29/2011
Firstly, wow. You've created an amazing story, and it is it's own story rather than just an adaptation or re-imagining of canon. I've read the whole thing insanely quickly, in about 2 days, much like I would read a new Harry Potter book when it came out, and how I read A Song of Ice and Fire, and I similarly can't wait to read the next instalment. Thank you for that.

There are a few points I want to make about the story, they aren't really well thought through or structured and there's probably a high chance you'll dismiss them immediately or recognising them as such. Anyway, here hoes.

Harry has been created an almost perfect character, in terms of how he reacts, how he thinks and what he says at any given point (with exceptions). He is pretty much the character my mind is trying to turn the protagonist into whenever I'm reading a story, when my mind will be silently screaming at a character to stop being stupid, and coming up with alternative things to say or do which would get his point across or further his objectives.

But I think reading this has made me realise why authors don't create characters like that, because I find it quite difficult to actually like Harry, I root for him, I want him to succeed but I can't really like him properly, not the way I like Rowling's Harry.

This probably isn't helped by the fact that the things Harry knows, the things he says and his general concerns are so unlike that of an eleven year old (even an extraordinary eleven year old) that it nags extremely hard at my suspension of disbelief wherever I realise that this is actually an eleven year old I'm reading about. This is what makes the character and makes the story so I'm not criticising it, obviously everything in the magic world is impossible, but this is a level of implausibility that I can't ever shake. In general I think most of the child characters you have written have a work ethic and demeanour I have never seen in an 11 or 12 year old.

From this my favourite character is Hermione, perhaps as she is essentially unchanged from Rowling's version, and I can believe in her and I empathise with her a lot more than I do with Harry.

On the other hand, Draco is my other favourite character, because you have changed him and given him much more depth than in Rowling. He is so much more than just a bad guy, and you've done amazing things with his relationship with his father and to the wider wizarding world.

I think the relationship between houses and personalities is too strong. I find it ridiculous that seemingly every act of a character can be put down to them belonging to a certain house or else it is from a side of their personality that is attributable to another house. Why does every conceivable personality trait have to be a specialism of a house? I'm not sure how much moulding of personality a house is or should be capable. I don't think children would fit into 4 boxes neatly enough have such drastic differences between houses. (as an aside, if it did, then sorting based on personality would be an awful way to run Hogwarts, a random or at least semi-random sorting would produce more rounded and agreeable wizards at the end of it). This is in part a leftover from Rowling's world, but I think you have made it much more explicit.

In some ways you explored that theme in good ways, having the houses mixed within armies for example, and showing that people's house allegiances/traits don't turn out to be as clear cut as the declaration from a sorting hat would have you believe. In other ways you entrenched them, for example to have a goal to change Slytherin I think you made them more of an evil caricature than they are in Rowling. Also I find Harry's 4-way internal monologue quite annoying for this, I think you would expect Harry to be the one character who had a more nuanced view of personality, especially his own. I suppose a 4-way conversation is a step up from the standard angel/devil on the shoulder though.

Finally, reading as a Brit, it was obvious to me reading this that the author was American, long before I checked. I wouldn't point it out except that in some places you have obviously made an effort to make a British reference (e.g. political parties), but in some places the phrasing of what people say and references they make are not things a British person would say, and are obviously American. This isn't something I'd expect any non-Brits to notice so it's not an issue. If/when I reread chapters I'll point out any of these I find in case you want to be as authentic as possible.

Thank you again for writing this, I have really enjoyed reading it and will hopefully continue to do so.
snuffb0x chapter 77 . 12/29/2011

I'd assume that the difference between Snape and McGonagle's versions of the prophecy are that Snape was hearing it through a door in the Three Broomsticks and it was understandably muffled, whereas McGonagle was sitting across the table from Trelawney when it happened.

As for the story itself, I'm pretty hooked and very interested to see where it's going - as I have absolutely no clue what everything's building up to.

It's an interesting and well executed concept and I greatly appreciate the high standards of grammar and spelling that are so often lacking in fanfic.

Update soon please :puppydogeyes:
Tree chapter 77 . 12/28/2011

(Snape in chapter 77 to Rianne)



(from McGonagall's thoughts in chapter 28)

I take it this is significant and I can't figure out what it means.
jc chapter 77 . 12/28/2011
Personally, I would rather get chapter 78 now, regardless of the cliffhanger, rather than wait until chapter 79 is finished. But, of course, I'm not your only reader and this is unlikely to change your release plan.
Ella Not Lotte chapter 77 . 12/28/2011
I miss this story, and I was so happy to see that you have another chapter ready to go.

I cannot begin to describe how amazing this story is. You've totally reinvented the Harry Potter world, and it's in a good way. There's a sort of clarity about your style that fits so well with the personality of Harry and the message you're sending with this story. It's not just fanfiction anymore, it's a true work of art.

My father, who is a mathematician and a total nerd (a trait which I have fortunately inherited) was reluctant to begin reading this story because I'd hyped it up so much. Eventually he started reading it, and he absolutely loves it. Considering that, in his eyes, I managed to over-hype literary works like the Great Gatsby, this is quite the accomplishment. It probably doesn't matter much to you, as it's just one of over fifteen thousand reviews you've received, and you'll probably never read it, but that is the ultimate mark of approval from him.

This story has changed the way that I look at the world. I love rational!Harry, and I really really hope to see more of this soon.

Now I should probably start re-reading the story so that I'm ready when you update.

Cheers, and much admiration,

LW chapter 77 . 12/28/2011
I suspect that you're losing momentum, and people are checking less frequently. I'm not convinced that waiting until you finish Ch. 79 is the best plan.

That is all.
flyboy321 chapter 77 . 12/28/2011
just read your last authors update, in which you say in 78 you had to arrange W before X before Y. i think someone is forgetting an earlier chapter in which Lucius informs Draco that you shoud never rely on more than two things to happen to make a plan work ;-)
dendodge chapter 77 . 12/28/2011
I just finished reading this story (so far, anyway). It has practically taken over the last week of my life.

It's a good concept, executed well, and there is very little negative critique I can give, apart from minor things like English characters using American words or spellings.

I am eagerly awaiting the next update!
lola chapter 77 . 12/26/2011

I wanted to say that your story is the most surreal piece of literature I have read so far. It got me interested in all those biases and "methods of rationality", so I have started to read your LessWrong webpage.

All in all, great fanfic! I especially enjoyed the first half, where Harry was always in his scientific mode.

Good luck!
anon chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
Thanks for the status update!
Reasonable Mike chapter 77 . 12/27/2011
Having read through all 77 chapters in 3 days, after seeing Filktertom on LJ recommend this (so there's another celebrity endorsement for you), I greatly enjoyed this.

I have one minor quibble; as Harry is British, where's the Dr. Who references? I have some British friends who were born around the same time as Harry, and Doctor should definitely be something he's familiar with. After all, the Death Eaters do have a certain commonality with the Daleks.
clouds711 chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
Awesome! Please Please Please update soon!
xallanthia chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
Referencing your own author's note recently: "you can have X happen so that Y can happen, but never have W happen so that X can happen so that Y can happen. Anything worth setting up can be set up in one step"; this very much reminds me of Lucius's advice to Draco about the sort of planning one can expect to pull off-no plan that requires more than 3 things to happen, and since no one would ever attempt to do something as complicated as possible, the real limit is 2. It is amusing to me that we sometimes forget our own lessons :) Thanks again for this fic and I'm looking forward to more!
M chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
A great story, and well written too. I have recommended it to several people, and I can't wait to see more.
I read this at work chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
Been loving this story! Can't wait for more! I've especially liked your take on the dementers and the afterlife. But I'm still not sure I buy that Harry's argument for a single allele controlling magic was complete. Metamorphmagi have a hereditary ability that is in addition to and (presumably) dependent on the presence of magical ability, so it seems at least conceivable that there could be other inheritable characteristics modifying magical abilities that are passed around among inbreeding Noble Houses.
Tchalvak chapter 77 . 12/26/2011
Excellent. What harry potter could have been if JK Rowling had given a damn. Only hiccup occurs in the middle chapters where harry completely fails to follow any of his own principles of rationality with respect to quirrell.
Jon chapter 77 . 12/25/2011
A status update for christmas?
erm chapter 77 . 12/25/2011
i really love this story, and it's killing me to just stop here. i'm actually feeling kind of wounded, you know? but can i say? well, ok, harry has his mysterious dark side and he's a child prodigy and brilliant, so i can kinda understand how he has all these dark, mysterious, convoluted thoughts. but hermione? i mean, she's a brilliant genius too, but, but, but she's twelve...

loved the lack of noticeable grammar/punctuation mistakes and stuff. it's taken a kind of angsty turn, hasn't it? eh. angst is cool. so when you're done, i really hope you don't get sick of us ffners, cuz you should definitely keep going. maybe some drabbles or something. thanks so much!:)
Anonymous chapter 77 . 12/25/2011
Best written fanfiction that I know of. And all characters in this story are simply amazing.
AnaRola chapter 77 . 12/24/2011
I've reread this chapter several times, and a couple things are bugging me. Not the kiss - that's creepy, but makes perfect sense for both characters, and I appreciate that you don't try to downplay the creepiness like a lot of fanfic authors who do student-teacher setups without even attempting a treatment of that power dynamic. I think what's bothering me is the differences between the way the prophecy happened in this world and canon. I've long since abandoned the hope this would be a single-point-of-departure story, but all of the differences from canon are starting to be mind-boggling.

Which isn't a criticism. Keep leaving subtle hints, and even we average-IQ readers will figure things out eventually.

By the way, tomorrow is Christmas. New chapter? Please?

Shagbart Eliezer is using HPMoR to justify his dictatorial ambitions to take over the world? Seriously? Have you even read the writings about CEV that you reference? CEV is a vague sketch of the goal, not a formal system, but the one thing it is overwhelmingly explicit about is that no one person gets to decide anything about the future, and no one ends up "taking over the world". Harry is not Eliezer. Really. That's overwhelmingly obvious once you read any of Eliezer's more personal works. He makes some mistakes the younger Eliezer made, some mistakes that Eliezer has seen other smart people make, and some mistakes that move the plot along.

I think it's unfortunate that so many people seem determined to read suspicious motives into the most inspirational moments of MoR. If this story is slowed down even a few days because Eliezer is rewriting scenes to ensure that no one can claim "This is all part of his plot to justify taking over the world",a lot of readers will be very disappointed. Take a deep breath, and if you have a coherent criticism of CEV write it up - God knows we need more of them - but not here.
phaedrus chapter 77 . 12/24/2011
Triumphant at multiple levels, from concept to character development to perfectly crafted vignettes. But it seems the time we wait from chapter to chapter is growing by at least n-squared in the number of open threads. Please update - we'll take chapters out of order, chapters to be revised later, even an update on when the next update will be. It's hard to wait - this part of your fan base is starting to grow irrational again. Por favor.
Virginia chapter 77 . 12/24/2011
Dear Santa and his cybernetic AI,

(What else could compute the needs of half a billion children and optimize the delivery of their presents over the course of one night? And constrain it additionally so every child will be asleep when he arrives.)

All I want for Christmas is a new chapter of MOR.
Patrick the observer chapter 77 . 12/24/2011
wow, this whole story is just amazing. with the plot twists you have devised, the changes that have been wrought in characters you have even made the whole wizerding world that didn't agree with harry seem 3d. ive already read the series ( witch makes all the foreshadowing all the more fun) and i still have a hard time not thinking that at the very worst prof. Q is a more gray character. i cant really find words to describe the sheer awesomeness i have just read reading this whole story so far. you have grabbed me hook line and sinker in this story, i have been anxious and angered i have both face palmed at their moments of foolishness and rooted for their brilliance, and i have both been outraged ant moment and at others holding my sides while i almost double over in laughter. there are very very few stories that have done all this to me, and i can only call them masterpieces. and although i cant wait to see how this story ends i still can tell that there is still much more to be told. and i wouldn't have it any other way.
Silver Miko-Youkai chapter 77 . 12/22/2011
Hmm.. well.

I loved the beginning of the fic. I thought it was an incredible novel idea to try to explain magic with science, because I was skeptical.

On the other hand-I feel like the fic has moved past this initial premise and has gone off onto something else entirely. So it seems like two very separate fics.

I've also always thought that having war-games in Defense class would be awesome, so I'm overjoyed that you have it included.

I don't really like Hermione...and, somehow, I like her even less in this fic. Furthermore, the most recent arc seems very Hermione-centric :(

And with the ways things are going, I really hope this doesn't become a HarryxHermione ship...Or anyone else, for that matter. Because this Harry especially doesn't seem like the type to need anyone else.

As a whole, I really like this fic, so I hope you update soon
Junky chapter 77 . 12/21/2011
Are you alive?
Casey Spade chapter 77 . 12/20/2011
I love this story so much that I'd rather not have you turn this into an Ender's Game fanfic.
WhizkidHV chapter 77 . 12/18/2011
Gotta say, this is an insanely awesome story. Not only is it chock-filled with lots of lessons, ideologies, principals, etc. but you manage to do it all while making the story absolutely hilarious and engaging. Kudos, kudos and kudos abound for this story sir. I can only hope to aspire to be as good a writer as you are some day. Also, can't wait for the next chapter.
Melodien chapter 77 . 12/18/2011
thanks for sharing
Chloe chapter 77 . 12/17/2011
lunar2eternal chapter 77 . 12/14/2011
well, i recently finished the story so far. just a few criticisms and notes, most of which you've likely already heard. all of these are from the point of view of the original story, which i know is very different from your viewpoint.

1. I don't think there is such a thing as the "interdict of merlin". septumsempra was supposed to be very advanced, but harry learned it from a book. the same goes for the rituals that created the Horcruxes, and the one that revived voldemort. they were learned from books while he was in his sixth year.

2. while it is a fact that most wizards are a little weak in the logic department (which is why snape's contribution to the defense of the sorcerer's stone was a logic puzzle), many of the teachers of hogwarts seemed much better at this, specifically Mcgonagall, dumbledore, and of course snape. I don't think it's fair to portray all the adults in the story as borderline idiots, simply because harry is supposed to be a genius.

3. when writing dialogue, it's important to remember that the characters are british. it can be jarring to read american slang in a story set in the U.K.

4. Ghosts, portraits, and items are just as sentient as their living counterparts. They do continue to interact normally with the living, and they act just like everyone else. in fact, in the companion book to the series, fantastic beasts and where to find them, it relates the origin of the classifications of beasts, beings, and spirits, in which the spirits complained about being called beings, when they were clearly "has beens". also, ravenclaw's daughter and the bloody baron showed clear development after death, as did nearly headless nick.
y3ypnaTop chapter 77 . 12/13/2011

Read through all available chapters much faster than did with original books.

Incredible piece of fiction considering it's publishing model.
JPut chapter 77 . 12/13/2011
I've probably read the whole thing 3 or 4 times, and now come back and read a few chapters here and there at random whenever I have free time. This story is always entertaining, and never fails to put me in a better mood.

I don't usually review things like this, but I figured since I've gained so much joy from reading your work I would give this unsolicited gift of a review for newtonmas. (Hint Hint)

Awesome work so far. Hope you find the time to finish it out.

Merry Newtonmas!
kaoslord1982 chapter 77 . 12/13/2011
You hardly need me to tell you how good this story is, but I'll do it anyway.

It is truly awesome.

There have been moments, Harry's speech to the Chaos Legion on the eve of thier first battle for example, that have left me laughing so hard I was crying. I'm not a very demonstrative person so that is more impressive than it might sound.

It is intelligent, suspensful, philosophical, and hysterically funny. It approaches the ideal far more closely than I ever expected. The only possible critisism I could make is that the title and summery are a touch underwelming compared to the pure awesomeness that is this story.

To say I am looking forward to your next update is a massive understatement.
darnod chapter 77 . 12/12/2011
Awesome story. Just found it and read through all 77 chapters in a few days. Can't wait to see what you do with it. Hope RL straightens out and you can continue this. I definitely want to see this reach a conclusion. Never seen someone put this many words into a single year, it feels like so much has happened it should be 4th year. Love to see more.
Nick chapter 77 . 12/12/2011
Please post another chapter!
Blazen chapter 77 . 12/11/2011
I have finally read this chapter, and it's great! You have some very interesting insight in Snape's world. And it is embarrassing if your first kiss is with your student, and she figures it out right after.

And your take on the Prophecy is also curious.
Jai Rose chapter 77 . 12/10/2011
BRILLIANT! :D I did in fact stay up till about four reading this- So. EPIC!
Lyncz chapter 77 . 12/10/2011
All I want for Newtonmas is another chapter of Methods of Rationality.
Dvelj chapter 77 . 12/7/2011
The PDF book link seems to be down. Paging Auror Butnaru!

On another note, I sort of wanted Hermione to ask the Quirrell-mist for some of those answers...I want to know how he had intended to answer her. But I do understand why she behaved as she did.

Lord Voldemort is having a bit too much fun at Hogwarts.
Mr. Mr. MR. MISTer chapter 77 . 12/7/2011
I've checked for an update every day for three months! It's totally cool if your done, we got a great and free story, but please let us know!
Jan chapter 77 . 12/7/2011
I'm starting to be afraid that we've had the last chapter... That would be too bad. I was kind of hoping for some closure :)

But just so you know: I've enjoyed the whole saga so far a lot. Some chapters may have been better than others, and I was beginning to wonder where the last few chapters were heading... but that is why I'd like to know, instead of checking back here every week or so and finding nothing :)

So: thanks for the work so far.
Curly chapter 77 . 12/7/2011
Killing myself now. Wish I could have read another chapter. Hurry up! You're depriving the world of positive observer-moments! Oh, and good luck with your math problem.
fin42 chapter 77 . 12/4/2011

To add to the chorus:

Methods of Rationality has lead me to discover/explore so many things - Less Wrong, Bayes, cognitive bias, AI research - and I feel obligated to say thank you. I can't imagine the number of people you're impacting, directly or indirectly, through this fic. (Though its current impact on me is that I'm not writing college essays like I should be.) Anyway, thanks again.

Me chapter 77 . 12/3/2011
Another great chapter. I can't wait to see the next update.
Guest chapter 77 . 12/2/2011
Just finished what's probably my tenth reread. I really, really, REALLY enjoyed the Self-Actualization arc. Thanks for writing!
RigorTortoise chapter 77 . 12/2/2011
Mr. Yudkowsky,

This comic literally changed my way of life. This comic and the associated blog LW have changed how I process the world. I no longer believe in the Lord of my fathers. I drove 4 hours just to meet you in NY. Your prose is entertaining and enlightening. For this fic I have given my thought process; it is only fair that you at least update the thing. Seriously.
Fnord chapter 77 . 12/1/2011
It's been about three months. Are you done writing yet?
Uryuu-Nipaa chapter 77 . 12/1/2011
This story is incredibly awesome! I especially liked the part with Harry's patronus. And I really really REALLY hope you''l update again soon. I enjoyed this in a way I didn't even enjoy the original series.
Misanthrope chapter 77 . 11/30/2011

I'm threatening you: with each fifteen days that go without Chapter 78 being posted(starting today), I'll donate more to causes that will increase existential risk(anti-Global warming, anti-science) as well as to extremist Conservative/Christian groups that oppose AI & Singularity research.

Just kidding I won't do that-I'm not that stupid. But please do update..
Jeska Grace chapter 77 . 11/30/2011
This isn't a review as such, more a desperate plea that you don't give up. Please, please, post more of this story. In my opinion, it far surpasses the original, although it might not reach quite the same market.

I was watching the HP movies again today, and I will be frank, you have completely ruined them for me. I keep seeing glaring flaws in rationality, and imagining how infinitely more awesome it would be with rational Harry, and competent Quirrel (who I strongly suspect to be Voldemort, with Quirrel himself as just a vague flicker left. But you have to keep writing, so I can find out...)

I love the armies, and their songs and warcries, and General Potter's brilliance. Malfoy is far more entertaining and believable than the brat he is in the movies, and I quite like how you've made Neville become brave. He was, after all, the other potential for the prophecy. And poor, poor, Bellatrix. That section made me so sad. It also made me roll my eyes in disgust when, at the end of The Chamber of Secrets, Hagrid waltzes in after his stay at Azkaban, cheery as ever.

And I want to know who the strange, mystereous person who obliviated Hermione is. Please, please, please, please, write more!

Deadzepplin chapter 77 . 11/30/2011
Damn this has been an entertaining story so thank you for writing it but you do you realize the magnitude of what you are undertaking? you have breached 400,000 words and you have not yet finished the fist book, you have not started the destruction and restruction of government, the Harry becomeing the metaphorical Merlin to the whole system, the fights and the factions, the whole thing has barely started and It will take an extraordinarily long time and considering everything I know I don't think you will ever finish please don't ask me why
The lost Weasley twin chapter 77 . 11/29/2011
So I have recently discovered HPatMoR, and just caught up with the in-progress storyline, so i guess it is time for my review.

(WARNING: Some spoilers)

At first, I was floored. The idea was very original, the story was amazing, and it kept me hooked. I knew, after reading the introduction, that there would be other alterations to the story besides Harry's background, but I assumed it would stick to at least the basic premise of the original tale. Which it does, for the first 30 chapters or so. But it soon becomes a wholly different story. Armies? Breaking Bellatrix Black out of prison? Heroines fighting bullies in the hallways? Mysterious misty apparitions furthering the plot?

I remember when MR Harry used to use science to explore magic, don't you? Remember partial transfiguration, and killing dementors? Now he's spreading chaos, or whatever, through his armies and SPHEW. I don't think he's mentioned science in 30 chapters. I like many of the new plots: Draco redeeming Slytheryn, trying to end bullying, etc. But devoting 10 chapters to a story arc which does little, if any, to further the plot is a bit tedious.

In the first 25 chapters, what happens? Harry discovers magic, meets Draco and Hermione, explains science to them, defeats Snape, dispels millennia of ignorance of magical blood, decides to overthrow the government of magical Britain and realizes how, etc.

In the last 25 chapters, what has happened? Harry breaks into Azkaban and defeats bullies. Sure the stories are interesting, but they have contributed little to the overall plot. The prison break has taken up 17% of the story so far, and has not noticeably left Harry any closer to his goals.

The original books had an overall story arc, and each book would have 3 or 4 minor arcs to keep our interest. This story seems to have a dozen or more minor arcs in Harry's first year. It's overwhelming and draining to my interest, and from reviews I have read, others' interest as well.

The story is well-written, and has a great catch. Harry disassembling of magic using science is brilliant and interesting. His idea to "optimize" magical Britain is interesting, as well as all means he has proposed to do so: manipulating currency, manipulating power brokers, redeeming Slytheryn, etc. These made this fanfiction popular and great, and will continue to do so. But long unproductive story arcs as we have seen lately drain all interest from the reader, and will leave this as yet another fan fiction which "could have been better".
Guest chapter 77 . 11/28/2011
Update please!
karamandu chapter 77 . 11/28/2011
ARRRRRRRRGH that was amazing.

Your writing is amazing. It's a continual explosion in my brain. It makes me stay up until dawn even when I shouldn't, and it informs my thoughts, and it teaches me things.

And I always had a weakness for Snape.
ladyowl chapter 77 . 11/27/2011

First - amazing story. Thank you. I've been checking the update date more-or-less every day, to see whether anything's been posted. I hope you're alright.

About this chapter - The first time I read this, I felt bad both for Snape and for Rianne. Snape's first kiss - as an empty favor. And, for Rianne, because I know that sometimes emotions can be illogical and inappropriate.

But, now it just seems creepy. Because, Snape is still - despite the fact that he didn't ask for the kiss or encourage it - taking advantage of someone he's supposed to take care of. He is a teacher. And even if (questionable) it doesn't hurt Rianne because she can't remember it; Snape can remember it, and can remember making a decision to be in an inappropriate situation with a student. And, this seems to be a bad precedent for a teacher who already emotionally abuses his students.


Best, and I'm crossing my fingers for the next chapter. Winter holiday gift, please?

Bonnie chapter 77 . 11/27/2011
Wow... I just finished reading all 77 chapters over the past few days (I've been busy or would have been faster) and decided to save my review till the end.

I originally kept reading this fanfic because it was a wonderful parody which answered any of the questions any sensible, straight-forward thinking person would ask about Harry Potter, (why on earth would kids stop learning maths at the age of 11? Surely a nuclear bomb is even more powerful than voldemort? Why would any school decide to put all the children that showed any hint of evil in a dungeon together where they're free to plot? etc, etc... (Actually that last one holds particular resonance with the final film in which McGonagall sends all the slytherins to the dungeon after Pansy Parkinson speaks up - it actually kind of outraged me that they were all punished for what Pansy said, simply because they were sorted in to the same house as her, by a school that had decided that an entire QUARTER of it's students were hopelessly bad. If it had been someone in any of the other houses that would never have happened...)) but now I keep reading because it's evolved in to a wonderfully complex story in its own right.

I feel it's definitely changed too much from the original material now to be simply "how the story would be different if Harry thought like a scientist" but that doesn't matter, and as much as I'd have loved to keep reading a story that had kept to that original premise, I feel as though I'm enjoying this one equally as much as, if not more than, that concept. In a perfect world I'd get both, in a not quite perfect world I get this :)
MarkerIV chapter 77 . 11/26/2011
A fascinating mind trip. Cannot wait till you update.
Kage chapter 77 . 11/25/2011
For the record, I am going back and adding a review after I read all 77 chapters. This fic has stuck with me. When I first started it, I thought 'cute, awesome'. As I read on, I thought 'nice, good language, I wish the books had been more like this in retrospect'. What gets me are not the lessons in rationality, ironically, though that's why I started to read the fic, nor even having a truly rational hero, but the emotion. The genuine emotion between Harry and his parents, Harry and Hermione, Harry and Draco, Harry and Quirrel.

It is very important that I have more of this fic and I wish this review were eloquent enough to express how awesome this story really is.
Angelo Pampalone chapter 77 . 11/25/2011
Great story so far!

It is so good that I read it all in 5 days!

And now I'm eager to read more.

The Leaky Pen chapter 77 . 11/24/2011
I didn't review the previous chapters because I was unable to stop pressing the next button every time I reached the bottom of each chapter. This story is brilliant in every way, and I cannot wait for future chapters.

(also heartbreaking. it's been a while since a fanfic made me cry.)
Unformal Sorrelle chapter 77 . 11/23/2011
Yesterday I found this story while poking around on tv tropes at about 10:30 at night. Ive finally gotten through it and im now wishing there was more. I love this story. I like rational!Harry and his love of books and his conflicting personalities because, not only does it sound like me, but its awesome. Your version of Hermione is so true to the book but different in good ways. Every time Draco gets a part I have to smile because you truely do write enjoyable characters.

I can't wait for the next chapter, thanks for writing this!
Atoile chapter 77 . 11/23/2011
Fantastic story! I love the fact that Harry is a *rational* hero in this. I also love Draco's interest in Science.
scarlettmeadows chapter 77 . 11/22/2011
Please please don't succumb to the curse of the 77th chapter (take a look at 'the marriage stone'; it's still pending). I am absolutely desperate to read the rest of this story- it's incredible!
not quite hopefully yours chapter 77 . 11/22/2011
I'd like to assume you realize this, given your grasp of statistics, but for some of us (certainly 10,000 total, wouldn't you say?), the best moment of our day is just before we click reload, in tarnished hope that that 'next' button will appear. It may not be 'IRL' to you, but for some of us the shitty circumstances have been mounting, and a little more HPMOR would be like a patronus 2.0 in our lives. At the end of a particularly bad day, I felt compelled to mention it.
OakenheaD chapter 77 . 11/22/2011
This so sets the standard for AWESOMENESS!
DagonSt chapter 77 . 11/21/2011
This (in general, not the particular chapter) made me laugh out loud repeatedly, and I am very interested in what comes next. Brilliant reinvention!
David DeLaney chapter 77 . 11/21/2011
Not actually a review, though as always this fic is awesome almost beyond words. But - for the last week or so, the number of reviews has been stuck at 15,118, yet new reviews are appearing at the usual rate, 2-10 per day. Are old ones falling off the back end? Does someone need to alert that we may have broken their review-holding database?

Toreo chapter 77 . 11/20/2011
As a uni-student in her first year for a Bsc. in astrophysics, you are my absolute hero; Everything about Harry Potter combined with the scientific method in a believable(rational!) way, and good lord do I wish there were more like this out there.

I'm also left wondering if you will change the nature/path(perhaps this is the wrong term for it...) of certain characters because they are ah, "seeing the light"/"snapping out of it"/"realized how stupid they were" and thus really turning towards voldemort. Snape loved Lily in the books, and that was the deciding factor for which side he was on (according to Dumbledore) but he was always still a cruel man. So the question you present us with is, without his love for Lily would Snape still do the right thing...

Ah that was me rambling, sorry.

Thank you so much!
SurahAhriman chapter 77 . 11/20/2011
Thank you for the update. I appreciate an occasional acknowledgement, even if it's just that there's nothing to report yet. I am perfectly willing to wait for your usual quality, on your own schedule. MoR is worth the wait (it's easily in my top-5 favorite pieces of fiction). I would suggest/request a weeklyish post of a sentence or two, even if it's just "Nothing new yet" or "edited a few paragraphs" or "Good work, needs a lot more", but I don't know how many other readers would find that irritating/insulting. You know how the internet can be. But having a sense of how far along we are might ease that part of my mind that inevitably checks the first time I get to a computer after 10PM EST.
Separ chapter 77 . 11/19/2011
Great story, can't wait to see what happens next
Mymalkshakes chapter 77 . 11/19/2011
Just finished your story now, its possibly the best I have ever read. I normally review every chapter but I was too encaptured to stop reading. Excited for the next update :)

wow chapter 77 . 11/17/2011
The interest and awe I hold for this story goes beyond my words. When I first started reading this story, I thought it was cute, full of vibrant clichés and ironic J.K. Rowling reflections. How foolish of me. From the start your ability to narrate humor without neglecting each character's growth and personal, intense emotions while teaching deep life lessons not about the answers, but about how to ask questions short circuits my brain. I just wanted you to know that this story has given me something, and that you have my thanks, for all it's worth.
wobster109 chapter 77 . 11/16/2011
More please! Such a gorgeous chapter 3
Adrian Nightshade chapter 77 . 11/16/2011
Wow. Just... Wow. This story takes everything that I think I know, twists it into something else, shatters it at least a dozen times, puts it back together incorrectly, and then twists it again. I salute you. Well done.

(On a side note, Snape, having his fist kiss with a student at LEAST 20-odd years younger than him? That's just kinda sad, really.)

modestlobster chapter 77 . 11/15/2011
Hooray, I am all caught up (for the moment, anyway); perhaps at the expense of some other tasks I could have been doing, and yet... and yet, something in me feels all the better for it. Which drives me crazy.

Snape really has the best role and story in the original book, and here, too... this chapter was fun. I liked it. Can't wait to see what comes next.
Malix2 chapter 77 . 11/14/2011
I do believe this is one of the best harry potter fics I've yet to read. It does drag on quite a bit though. I mean 77 chapters and we're not even through the first year. I'm not sure /when/ in the first year right now, but I know we're still in the first year, and yet it seems like you've added elements from the later movies as well, as least in passing. We'll see how things go. I did notice it's been over a month since it was last updated, which I'm guessing you've been busy, at least I hope that's the reason. And once again many parts of this story had me laughing my butt off. You've done an excellent job, and I will be looking forward to more, and hoping that it'll come soon.
pulsifer chapter 77 . 11/14/2011
I love this story. I hope your next chapter is coming along well. I assure you you're doing good for the world. I try to introduce my friends to this every time Harry Potter comes up in conversation.
Anisky chapter 77 . 11/14/2011
You're pretty much my hero.

My friends and I have taken turns reading this entire thing out loud to each other (er, you know, each of us reads a few chapters then we switch off, not that each of us read the whole thing through out loud). We have such a great time and laugh like crazy. It's one of the main things we reference with our inside jokes, along with My Little Pony and Rocky Horror Picture Show (odd combination, I know).

So anyway, all of us love this story so much and have found it to bring that much more cheer into our lives. :-D
xan avalon chapter 77 . 11/11/2011
I knew there was something about this chapter that was nagging me with puzzlement... "I was not loyal to the one person I called friend." ? Who could this possibly be? Nowhere in canon do I recall the slightest hint of anyone Snape would have considered a friend. Lily, while object of obsession, and indeed someone to whom he was not loyal when it mattered most, does not seem to qualify for the position.

then there's the matter of the Two Mentors...

more open threads this time than usual. And that's saying a lot for this piece. :)
CosPalp chapter 77 . 11/11/2011
This story is great!
mesilliac chapter 77 . 11/9/2011
I just want to say thanks for your story. I have enjoyed it very much.

I intend to give a proper critique at some point - there were some things that i particularly liked, and a few inconsistencies i noticed - but i would have to reread the entire work to do so. Perhaps some day i shall.

For now, as you have requested one review per chapter:

I particularly liked the portrayal of Snape in this chapter. I felt it was true to the original character, but also that you added something personal of yours to him. Well done.
LionRawrr chapter 77 . 11/7/2011
Fantastic fantastic fantastic

Keep writing! :)
Squirrelloid chapter 77 . 11/7/2011
Ok, i left out a bit because its irrelevant. If the middle bottle is wine ( order is possible), drink the one right of middle. But the differences betwee ... an ordering don't actually make figuring out the position of the F bottle harder.
Squirrelloid chapter 77 . 11/7/2011

So, we have bottles A, B, C, D, E, F, G. We know the following:

(1) There are 3 Poison, 2 Wine, 1 Back, 1 Forward

(2) Wherever there is Wine, there is Poison to the Left of it. (if Wine, there exists Poison left of Wine).

(3) A / G

(4) A,G elements of [Poison,Back,Wine]

(5) All different sizes, Largest and Smallest / Poison. HOWEVER, can't tell what size bottles are based on appearance. (Question - can other senses determine which is larger or smaller? Ie, is this purely a visual phenomenon? Could you touch them to get an idea of their dimensions? Or tap them and listen for resonance? Or pour the contents into another container, fill the bottle, then pour it into a marked beaker and measure the volume of the bottles?)

(6) B,F are the same (BF)

(7) The contents of a bottle can only be identified by triggering their effects.


(1) G / Poison (Since A,G aren't the same and neither is forward, if A Back, B F Poison because B / Wine, and thus G / Poison because then there couldn't be Poison left of both wines. If A Wine, Poison can't be left of it, so A / Wine. If A Poison, G / Poison). G element of Wine or Back.

(2) B,F are not both of the giant and dwarf cups. The clue was intended to give information that made the riddle soluble, and thus redundant information is highly unlikely. At best one of them is either the giant or the dwarf.

(3) Similarly, G is neither the giant nor the dwarf (already capable of concluding its harmless).

(4) Thus it is clear that either one of the giant or the dwarf is the Forward potion, and the other of the two is either a W or B that does not occur in the G position. This gives exactly enough information to solve the puzzle. (I can put more constraints on it than that, in particular there's one arrangement of bottles where i can conclude the other of dwarf or giant must be a wine, but it depends on what the original position of the bottles is.)

(5) Speaking of position: Possible Arrangement - Cas - Cas - Case 3


It is unclear to me if Hermione's survival is required to complete the puzzle.

Assuming we have access to all Harry's toys (being Harry and all), we are in possession of a time turner.

Phase 1: Hermione drinks the middle bottle. If it's poison, Harry goes back in time and kicks it over. If it's Forward, Harry goes back in time and kicks over all the other bottles instead. If its backward, Harry merely drinks the one to its right (which must be forward).

Phase 2: If only one potion is standing, Harry drinks it. If the middle potion is kicked down, Hermione drinks the last one (she hasn't actually drank one yet, because the time turner was involved). If the right-most is Wine, Harry drinks the one right of middle. If its Back, Harry drinks the one left of middle.
XL78 chapter 77 . 11/6/2011
Want...more...I need my fix. Keep up the good work. And of course don't rush if it means lowering the quality.
cat chapter 77 . 11/5/2011

This fanfic is great but you kinda fail as a planner - you should've made the story shorter and already be finished with it if you were planning on writing a real book. But i worship you and will do so even if you won't ever update again.


It is important to stop quirrel, so they will risk their lives. I'm not saying who should take the risk, but at least one person must go forth. I assume that if one is send to the beginning of the corridor he/she can again come to the bottles. If it cannot be done by one person then slight modifications must be made

i think the prossedure wil be:

- one person drinks 7th bottle

- if he/she disapperas(goes back) then second drinks third bottle, when the first comes back to the bottles he either sees a dead body and drinks fourth bottle(goes forth) or simply drinks third(goes forth). (third and forth order can be changed but should be agreed on beforehand)

- if 7th was wine then one person drinks fifth bottle

- if he/she go back then the second person is informed(they can use patronuses or the map to know that)

- if if was wine then they both drink third and go forth

- if it was poison then second person drinks fourth and goes forth

is it ok?
Fringe Dweller chapter 77 . 11/5/2011
I had dropped this story around chapter 64 since I had lost interest, but after coming back I think that it's gotten better since then.

Keep writing! :)
Ellef Jones chapter 77 . 11/4/2011
I think the premise of the story is brilliant, and the conservation of energy when McGonagall turned into a cat was hilarious. So naturally I went and recommended this to every Harry Potter fan I know as a soon as I finished reading it.

EVERYTHING related to the armies was awesome, especially with the traitors. Chaos is fun. (Chaos chaos, not the Chaos army, although they're fun too.) And all the tactics were brilliant, although I doubt all of them would work realistically. (If realistically there was magic.)

As for the magic genes being simpler than eye colour genes, that was a bit... strange. It just played out too easily, and they found an answer at once, not even questioning the limited amount of subjects. Nor did they look for other hypothesises, like there being different types of magical genes, or other genes that influence the power or form of magic.

Though for all I know you've thought of this, and you're just trying to make Harry seem more like the 11 year old he is. (Which I hope you did with the death thing, because the whole Dementor thing made me feel like it was factual rather than an opinion, and only because I wouldn't like a universe, even a fictional one, where death is anything but part of life.)

And then I'm reminded of the chapter about positive bias, which I knew about, though I didn't know about the test, and I'm quite certain I would've fallen for it, though there's no way to test it anymore. (At least not that particular test.)

Anyway, I found the whole chapter extremely enjoyable and it made me more conscious of the subject. Since before I only learned about it without thinking it over much.

Then back to waiting for the next chapter.
Dvellec chapter 77 . 11/4/2011

I've come to the following possible arrangements of bottles. Unless I've embarrassingly screwed up, these all follow the constraints and are the only arrangements that follow the constraints.

So I'm kind of stuck. I don't see any clue that would allow us to discern which may have been the "giant" and the "dwarf".

Only bottle 7 is guaranteed to be safe, and Hermione could sample that and that would let Harry either throw out two possibilities or the other five possibilities. But after that I don't see what can be done without a risk of sampling poison.

It's clear that the Forward potion is constrained to bottles 3 4 and 5 (it cannot be 2 and 6 since those must be identical and there is only one F, and the clues say explicitly that 1 and 7 are not F).

So am I on a potentially good track, just missing the solution, or have I misunderstood the problem? (Or is there an error in the problem).


On another subject, I want to be part of a possible minority of fans in saying "take your time writing the next chapter" to EY. Of course I want to read a new chapter soon, but it's more important to me that the quality never drops for rushing. I don't think EY needs to hear this, I think he is aware of his working pace, but at the same time it might be good to hear that some readers appreciate that, since it's the impatient who will post reviews saying "it's been a while since the last update", while most of those who are content to wait won't say anything. I donated a small amount to the SI during the drive, it was the least I could do to thank you for this incredible work. You have got me interested in their work and I have put it on on the list of organisations I would consider being a more serious contributor for when I am no longer a student and have more predictable income (hopefully!)
NotImplementedExcepton chapter 77 . 11/3/2011
I'm on my third read of this fic, and the only thing I'd like to criticize is the update schedule. You seem to have fallen victim to the palling fallacy ;)

If I may make a suggestion: pick a pace. You don't need to release chapter updates all the time. Once/month or once/two months is a reasonable pace. We all know you're busy and have other obligations, but It would really help to have a regular (no matter how infrequent) update schedule, rather than a ton of chapters all at once, then a several month break.
Guest chapter 77 . 11/3/2011

Those objections are worthless.

The point of the puzzle isn't to prove why it's a dumb situation. It's a /hypothetical/ situation, and the point is to try to figure out the correct choice. If all logic problems were required to have a completely, 1
DeevGrape chapter 77 . 11/3/2011
Hi Eliezer, you mentioned you read all reviews, so here goes:

This story definitely changed my life.

Obviously it's funny and engaging and I spent three days in a row reading all the chapters I could when I first found it, but by introducing me to rationality, and from there the lesswrong blog and all the incredible ideas and information on there, you've really made me a stronger person. For one specific improvement: I'm signed up for cryonics :)

Anyway, can't wait to find out what happened to Hermione, who Hat&Cloak is, Draco becoming a rationalist, etc. Keep up the good work, and know that you're changing the world.
nitpicker chapter 77 . 11/2/2011
aphyer: the problem makes no sense.

1. Hermione certainly won't just "do what Harry says" because she trusts him; she'll work the problem out for herself.

2. There is no stated barrier in front of them, so the obvious "solution" is to just proceed forward and ignore the bottles.

2a. There is clearly no insurmountable barrier behind them, so if someone gets sent back, they can just return.

3. Professor Quirrel could easily out-duel either or even both of them, so the even-more-obvious "solution" is just to go tell Dumbledore.

4. You haven't said how many turns are left on the time turner.

5. You haven't said whether "bad things" are worse than an x% chance of death for Harry. (I assume that for any %, Hermione dying is worse than Harry dying.)

And all of that is without even starting on the problem itself.
anon chapter 77 . 11/2/2011
aphyer: I can see two possible setups that would be solveable with bottle sizes visible. Neither gives Hermione certainty of safety if they can't see bottle sizes.
Mikko Rauhala Lovegood chapter 77 . 11/2/2011
Listen well and mark my words, for I have received the truth of Harry Potter in dream worthy of a Quibbler article series. The truth that explains all about how a little boy supposedly managed to reflect the dreaded Killing Curse.

For the truth is that the Boy Who Lived did indeed die that day.

The Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres of today is in actuality an advanced muggle artifact of steel and circuitry, surrounded by a layer of flesh and blood of none other than the Dark Lord himself. No doubt this shell insulates the fragile muggle technology from the effects of magic, and the powerful blood coursing through his veins grants him - nay, it - its magical abilities.

How this abomination came to be, who can say, for it was not revealed by the prophecy. Perchance it was the Dark Lord himself, creating this golem of his own being for his nefarious purposes. But mayhaps, just mayhaps, it might have been a powerful opponent, say, old headmaster Dumbledore, that in desperation turned to some Dark Ritual to seek to recreate the Dark Lord's nemesis from a drop of his own blood drewn in battle.

Regardless, I call upon the government of Magical Britain to seize the contraption at once to study its function and purpose. Only then may the truth of the matter be fully known.
aphyer chapter 77 . 11/1/2011
Love the story so far. I'd like to give a logic puzzle in the HPMOR-verse (for dedicated people):

The evil Professor Quirrell has gone to seize the Philosopher's Stone! If he can get there, very bad things will happen! Oh no! Harry Potter and Hermione Granger (who, though Harry would rather not admit it, he really thinks should stay behind out of danger) are pursuing him down Dumbledore's third-floor corridor. Using simple spells they conveniently happened to be taught in first-year Charms, they have bypassed most of the wards between them and the Philosopher's Stone. Now, they come to the Riddle Game, which contains seven bottles. Three are filled with poison, two with harmless nettle wine, one with a potion to transport you backwards, and one with a potion to transport you forwards. A riddle tells you which is which:

"First, however slyly the poison tries to hide, you will always find some on nettle wine's left side. Second, different are those that stand at either end, but if you would move onwards neither is your friend. Third, as you see clearly, all are different size. Neither dwarf nor giant holds death in their insides. Fourth, the second from the left and second from the right are twins once you taste them, though different at first sight."

Harry and Hermione laugh at the stupidity of setting a riddle trap for them - and then they realize something. The evil Professor Quirrell has been through here already, and has bewitched the bottles so that they all appear the same size. (No, he hasn't done anything else. Don't ask me why, I don't know.) However, he has left a note for Harry:

"Mr. Potter,

Miss Granger is only going to drink one bottle. I wonder how much you're willing to risk to stop me?"

Harry, consciously or unconsciously, makes the following assumptions:

- If the bottles were still different sizes, the riddle would be solvable. You would be able to work out the contents of every bottle without having to drink anything.

- Hermione trusts Harry enough to drink whatever he tells her to.

- It's not possible to smell, sip, or otherwise identify a potion without triggering its effects.

What will Harry's strategy be? What is going to happen?

(Note: this may seem impossible. Unless I've embarrassingly screwed up, however, it isn't.)
Mystamir chapter 77 . 10/31/2011
I just read this while story again and it was even better this time around. I cannot wait to see in the coming chapters how the intrigue unfolds!
Dan chapter 77 . 10/30/2011
Please update soon!
LauralHill chapter 77 . 10/30/2011
Ahaha Snape is even more awesome than I suspected. Poor guy. Rowling really did a number on him in the books. Even in fanfiction where he's evil, he's at least more interesting than she wrote him.

Can't wait for the ides of May.
Kiara chapter 77 . 10/29/2011
Loved your story, definitely worth the 14k reviews. Some parts were complicated and confusing at times, but I learned allot (ofvrandom facts :P) 0_o
scarlettmeadows chapter 77 . 10/29/2011
First off, you're incredible and an inspiration. This was my first ever fanfiction read and you've made me an addict. However, I have been waiting nearly 2 months for an I hope everything's alright, just wanted to let you know that you still have an avid and waiting fanbase. Yours, scarlettmeadows.
Jimmy chapter 77 . 10/28/2011
I'm hoping that you haven't abandoned this fanfiction.
SweetGold chapter 77 . 10/28/2011
To begin with I was wondering whether it was really Snape or not, but by the end of the chapter I'm quite convinced that it was infact Snape and not Quirelle in diguise.
Brian chapter 77 . 10/27/2011
Have you noticed that you have nearly a thousand pages of reviews? Have you noticed how many of the more recent ones are begging you to keep writing? I'm a big fan of the Harry Potter universe. These days, most people I know have read the novels. The ones who haven't are trying to be all anti-establishment. I've given up trying to get them to read the novels. But every day, I suggest that they read this story. It is epic, and when each chapter is published, I consume it, and wait anxiously for the next. In a world without reason, this story gives me hope.
Sash'Rahaal chapter 77 . 10/27/2011
This is one of those stories that I find to be much better than the source material. I'd go into more detail, but I just read all 77 chapters so far in the space of two days and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY BRAIN IS MELTING.

So I'm going to go NOT READ ANYTHING for awhile, and when the next chapter of this wonderful story comes out I am going to read the shit out of it. Thank you very much,
habermoose chapter 77 . 10/27/2011
Hey, I just burned through this book in about 4 days. Loving it. Stop screwing around and write. Post, Damn You, Post!
Victoria chapter 77 . 10/26/2011
Hallo. Actually my english is not so good to read your story in original so I'm reading czech translate which already has only 40 chapters translated. I just wanted to give you feedback that I love your story and same about lot of people of many different nationalities. I think that your story is much better deviced than JKR's. Everything makes sense, everything is planned from begining.

So I hope that you'll finish this master piece )

Sorry for my bad english, I'm not good in it
BadgerofRavenclaw chapter 77 . 10/26/2011
This is brilliant. I honestly can't say I disliked anything about it. Wow. Just wow. I love the characters, I love the plot, I love that Harry is actually sensible and I love Hermione and Quirrell (just in general).
starduske chapter 77 . 10/25/2011
Last night I dreamt that you released chapter 78.
yendenikhil1 chapter 77 . 10/25/2011
Simply awesome... I would like to know what happens as plot thickens... very nice story where HP is not super powerful is still he is !


phil chapter 77 . 10/25/2011
Just chiming in to say that I check this website for updates daily.

If the reason for the lack of updates is that life got busy, well, okay. Same for if it isn't any fun anymore. Just post that you got burned out writing HPMoR, and need a few months break. But if you aren't writing because you don't think you are any good, shut up, stop reading this review, and go write something. Seriously. If it isn't any good, you can always delete it later.

Also, remember, you said that you disliked writers who didn't finish what they started.

As a note of encouragement, I've found Quirrel's advice on being able to lose invaluable in life. Now, whenever I get into a difficult situtation, I ask myself "Would it be to my advantage to lose?" The answer is "yes" suprisingly often.
DrgnDrake chapter 77 . 10/24/2011
I am, quite often, utterly amazed by this story. I look forward to seeing more of it.
jdboss1 chapter 77 . 10/24/2011
less wrong i just found this in

The Reluctant Lord by SmallBurnyThing Ch10

if you go back to how wands work this might help m

"What if spells are just vocally triggered rune groups and wands are little more than complex, vocally programmable, foci."

"An Arithmancy equivalent for computers." Hannah answered quickly, sketching down theories and jotting out notes before the moment of inspiration left. "The non-magical wand. We design spells, right here, right now." She got out. "Runes are simple, their geometry and alignment have inherent magical properties, like circuits, they are our assembly, the most basic level of code, but we don't use that in spellcrafting." Underlining one of her more obscure theories she stared straight into her professors eyes. "Tell me, Professor, just what does Latin have to do with magic?"

Professor Annalise Vector, Master Spellcrafter, twelfth generation pureblood looked at her group of treasured apprentices with something akin to amazement. "Well, the Romans invented wands..." But that wasn't a particularly good reason. Sounds didn't have arithmantic representations. They had runes tuned to pitch and tone.
Punisher8824 chapter 77 . 10/24/2011
When will the next chapter be coming out? It has been over a month!
Dance Elle Dance chapter 77 . 10/23/2011
I really like this fic! I think you're doing an excellent job at writing this and I can't wait to read more! Awesome work!
Guest chapter 77 . 10/23/2011
I read this story and was thoroughly engrossed by it.

It's honestly the mona lisa of fanfiction. That said it isn't perfect and neither is life. I do like your characters especially quirrell but at points I think to myself: why is harry right so much more of the time than everyone else. He's a good character and I like him but sometimes I think wow dumbledore is you know supposed to be a genius who defeated his dark lord so why can't for once he just

be right instead of harry consistently being right when however smart he is he's still got way less experience

than dumbledore. I did find hermione to be a solid character albeit her desire to be a hero just to not be overshadowed by harry rather annoying because some

people just have something you don't and perhaps can't have. Heroism isn't a thing I think can be taught really. I don't think a true hero is one who wanted to be one for glory or whatever reason. But whatever you've done a sterling job and I commend you for it.
merl7 chapter 77 . 10/23/2011
I hope you update soon, I'm really enjoying this story and have reread it a couple of times now and it is just as captivating. I love your version of the Malfoys. I can't make my mind up if I love Draco or Lucius more...
Lofted Silence chapter 77 . 10/22/2011
This isn't a review for this paritcular chapter but for the whole story. I must say that I've never enjoyed a story on fanfiction as much as I've enjoyed yours. It really keeps your attention and I love your take on the characters and the changes you give them. Most stories that I read contain Mary Sues and horribly cliche storylines, but this surpasses them all. I disagree on many of your themes and thoughts but the story is simply to good to pass up.

I especially want to congradulate you on the reference to Ender's Game in one of the chapters (don't remember which, it's been too long), it's nice to see someone who appreciates it as well. :)

Guest chapter 77 . 10/22/2011
Thank you so much for this fic - it is incredibly awesome! It is always a treat to (re)read, and I now have difficulty separating the characters as presented in the actual canon from this. Bravo!
Too lazy to sign in chapter 77 . 10/21/2011
I belong in the tiny minority of HP fans who loathed Snape, even when Deathly Hallows gave us the backstory and the movie did a surprisingly good job of the flashback, I generally disliked Snape because like Harry, I couldn't understand why such a teacher could ever be allowed to teach in a school.

Your Snape is admittedly more tolerable, you didnt simply romantize him like so many writers but gave us a nasty confrontion before the two begin to treat each other 'respectfully'. So when we finally get to this chapter, I was more inclined to feel some sympathy for Snape instead of "here's another author trying to make Snape a romantic tragic unrecognized yadda yadda yadda hero".

Like all your previous chapters, this blew me away. Rianne is a seventh year so I'm not as creeped out as I probably should be, rather I focused more on the outside opinion she gives and the discussions she brought up. The Sorting Hat, judging someone so young for the rest of the person's life, really does strike a chord here. As does the memory charms, the ramifications of having such a charm at one's disposal does seem like too much power for someone, and for the victim...well, I don't need to explain it to you of all people since you are the one teaching me :P

I do have some difficulty understanding what Snape is talking about with his mentors. Voldemort said nothing but the Dumbledore is suspicious in staying silent? Staying silent about what?

Hope you continue writing!
Eli chapter 77 . 10/21/2011
I really like this story. (I'm intending this as a review of the Story So Far, not the chapter.) Not everything in it, but overall it's been a real pleasure. The characters and interesting takes on or modifications of Rowling's characters. The plot events are all engaging (again, even those due to Rowling are modified, commented upon, etc.; and in a good way).

I am not convinced by the ideology of rationalism as the whole truth of how to live-not that rationalism is bad or unimportant, just that it _is_ an ideology, presented here as if it covered everything in life. I disagree, and I am not going to go to the effort to compose a detailed rebuttal, though perhaps I should say something rather than nothing. One example is that Harry agrees to keep secrets without considering that that might have an emotional cost. On these and other occasions it is as if he is not only trying to be rational now, but taking for granted that his future self will be a rational being; of course he is aware of many possible departures from rationality, even in himself, but I think he is missing some. That said, rationalism has much to recommend it, and presenting it in fictional form could easily have been a disaster, but in fact it has been both a successful exposition and a good story.
ThwartAbyss54 chapter 77 . 10/20/2011
This is the closest anyone has gotten to the World I had imagined. I await your update with fluttering heart.
csmann92 chapter 77 . 10/20/2011
This is probably one of my all-time favorite fanfictions. I love the central idea of the fanfiction that Harry is rational. Far too often do characters in both regular fiction and fanfiction make illogical decisions. I found this story to be quite refreshing and enjoyable. I hope you update soon :)
reesessweetie chapter 77 . 10/19/2011
i just finished all of this in two days, and i really love it!

what i truly can't get over though is the way harry helped quirrel rescue bellatrix from azkaban...harry is a boy who thinks about every single possibility and rationalizes everything but i can't see why he would do that... after i saw how easily he was manipulated by quirrel, it reminds me that harry is only 11 years old and thus, at times, he doesn't make very sound decisions. and quirrel has prove himself to have a dark side yet why does harry still look up to him? harry doesn't want to be dark but he has shown some dark qualities, i think. namely, his attraction to the dark... i honestly don't know how things will go in here. i can't uderstand anybody's motives and a lot of times, i have no idea what's going on
templar627 chapter 77 . 10/19/2011
Great story so far, can't wait for the next update.
sauerhaft chapter 77 . 10/18/2011
this fic revived something in me that I had when I was younger. Thanks.
six chapter 77 . 10/18/2011
Tis sad that writing always takes longer than reading. This chapter was also sad and sadly not incredibly funny, but it is the in-progress mark so I feel justified in reviewing. Pretty please let another Chaos Legion-Dragon Army-Sunshine Regiment battle happen in one of the near chapters. One last point/question,I am confused as to what exactly Malfoy lied about to Goyle? and possibly his father? His plan of 'preparing for the Second War' seems perfectly logical and adequate to explain his nice-ness away.
Jake chapter 77 . 10/17/2011
I just am reviewing to apologize because I yelled at you as you were leaving the David Brin event this afternoon asking when the next chapter would be up. Take your time and enjoy writing. I will be here waiting when you get it done!
Nyxelestia chapter 77 . 10/17/2011
I haven't reviewed a story on this website in almost two years, but this story is absolutely brilliant. As a bit of a world cynic myself, I find your characterizations, particularly of Harry, Snape, and Quirrel, refreshing, and your social, political, and scientific commentaries, your own opinion or otherwise, are well crafted and executed even better. I am sorry to have reached the end already, and I look forward to so much more.
Velorien chapter 77 . 10/17/2011
Brilliant work. When I first found this story, I expected it to be a showcasing of the power of rationality. I assumed that it would utilise and subvert Rowling's world to humorous and instructional effect, teaching the reader the fundamentals of rational thinking while playing on the innumerable gaping holes in the logic of the Harry Potter setting.

I got all of that.

What I did not expect was a well-written story in its own right. I did not expect deep, multifaceted characters or a well-paced and gripping storyline. I did not expect laugh-out-loud humour, valuable insight into human nature or - to my utter shock - genuine inspiration that would carry over into my everyday life.

"Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" has single-handedly erased my previously very strong anti-fanfic bias, and delivered more lasting value than the majority of original fiction I've read in my life. Thank you, Eliezer, and I look forward to following your work (fictional and otherwise) for a long time to come.

(I also apologise for not being able to think of any tips for improvement, and for putting an entire sentence in parentheses)
JWWells chapter 77 . 10/16/2011
I have finally caught up to the in-progress mark. Although this story is full of puzzles, I find myself with only one really big question.

How DID McGonagall turn into a cat?
Everettspartisan chapter 77 . 10/14/2011
Just reached the end - wish I could read it again fresh. Excellent story (and the recommended reading seems to have a lot going for it as well). I'm greatly looking forward to the next chapter (personally I've enjoyed all of them so far - and am curious to see where your going next).

Also, for the record, I thought the fic is better than many published works I've read in the last few years. Certainly one of the better pieces of comedy I've read in a very long time.

Thanks for the free book :)
Ashtaria chapter 77 . 10/14/2011
an annoyed reader, let me deconstruct your argument piece by piece

First, define clichéd. Because I can’t see anything clichéd about the fan fiction, the only one who seems to perceive anything as clichéd is you, which ohmygod we all give a shit about your opinion.

Second, a Mary-Sue is an idealized, perfect person. I really don’t see how the professor is a Mary-Sue, because usually the Mary-Sue is one of the main protagonists. It’s clear that the professor is a side-character, but seeing as he doesn’t have superawesomemagical powers, it’s also being clear that you are a nit-picker whose brain is half the size of a retard with a half-inch penis. Except that you don’t have a penis.

Third, you just don’t have any basic knowledge of sociology, don’t you? I could talk about how the West is obsessed with youth, and how mass media is promoting a certain body type blah blah blah… but the truth is, men usually don’t like women that are fat and have faces with genital warts, which Pertunia is intelligent enough to grasp, unlike you who is still living is self-denial. Wait, maybe it’s true you don’t have a penis; it’s probably because your vagina is humungous. I get it.

Fourth, you have no concept of humor, don’t you? Maybe you have frontal lobe damage, or an almost non-existent cerebral cortex, but let me point out to you that it was a joke, you idiot. And I don’t see how you could be ranting on women being stupid when idon’tknow, Hermione Granger is on the show? Seeing as you had the linguistic ability to read up to the epic count of chapter two, its kinda obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about.

I could like, spend all day insulting your gender, sexuality, and amazing increment of 65, but because I subscribe to the theory of intellectual osmotic relations, I fear I can feel the intelligence drained out of me. So go home and die a virgin.
Ashtaria chapter 77 . 10/14/2011
an annoyed reader, you're an idiot. You must be so intellectual and proud to be ranting about a fanfiction, when in reality he has a far more successful fiction than you will probably ever be able to create.

The internet does not care about your retarded bitching.
chaSing b0b chapter 77 . 10/12/2011
Hey :) Great chapter as usual, but reading this has made me quite curious about one aspect of the novels - does an accent impede the ability to cast certain spells? In the first book Professor Flitwick remarked upon how important pronunciation was, but to someone with an accent getting the right pronunciation might be difficult or impossible for them thus warping the spell.

Have you any theories to explain this, or do you know of anyone who has?

And keep updating :):)
Lexter chapter 77 . 10/12/2011
Truly amazing work (so far). Harry not always seems (to me) as 10-year-old, but as a whole - it's a really great work. A pity that only 77 parts for now, will wait for more.

PS. I'm sorry for possible errors, English not my main language.)
Rubberduck697 chapter 77 . 10/11/2011
Surely you must be joking Mr. Less Wrong. Can't believe somebody can be this good at writing a story, exploring characters, plots, ideas, a genius... that is what impressed me the most from the beginning, that you can write about a genius in a genius way. I've attempted so many times to just write short stories about a fictional genius, and they never work out and I believe it's because I am not a genius and therefore cannot relate. So that's what made me a fan from the beginning, recognizing a far, far superior intellect the way I imagine the Royal Society of London once recognized Isaac Newton... I suppose I don't really know you so I can't truly say whether you are a genius or not (and I would be hardly qualified to make such an assertion anyway) but to me your writing just sings genius, and maybe you call it sanity or rationality, but whatever it is you possess I can't help but feel a little grateful you decided to share it with the fanfiction world (and I say a little instead of a lot because I wonder what you would be doing with your time if you weren't writing fanfiction... no offense, I wonder about this all the time for myself and I'm not a writer by any means and I'm not all that bright it turns out... but out of curiosity, have you considered taking over the world?) ;)
Sciura chapter 77 . 10/11/2011
Thank you very much for that Authors Note telling me to finally go to sleep *sheepish grin*

These notes are probably unorganized because of said lack of sleep.

I am mildly annoyed that nobody told me about this story before now (Im not in HP fandom, but still.) Its great! It made me laugh out loud, later wince and almost recoil from the screen, and more than once it made me think.

77 chapters and the first year isnt over yet! I wonder how long this will be when its finished?

I love your Hermione, and her friends, too, and McGonagall. I even like Draco.

Not completely sure about your Harry yet, but your First Law gives me hope :)

I love what you did with the magic, like the laws of Transfiguration etc., and Im very much looking forward to Harry researching Potions, if he ever gets interested in it.

Harry insists that his adoptive parents are his real parents, yay! Do they already know that Dumbledore thinks Harry should stay in Hogwarts? I hope we get to see more of them.

Yay Tonks!

Harry and Draco in chapter five made me laugh out loud more than once, wonderful scene.

I really liked that last chapter.

What is actually going on is pretty confusing atm for me, and while Im almost sure thats deliberate, Im not sure how fast itll get better. Oh well, its still entertaining.

Will definitely read the Sequences (when I get around to it...) and rec this story.
FoxyBlues chapter 77 . 10/11/2011
once again, brilliant story. it's hilarious and gripping, and i love the ender's game references.

keep writing!
Kelly chapter 77 . 10/11/2011

Now I'm an avid reader of yours, I've recommended this fic to god knows how many people (people are now starting to avoid me, I'm assuming it is because of this...). And I'm really looking forward to the next chapter, I'm sure we'll all love it no matter what you think.

I love your crafty blend of humour and rationality, that isn't afraid of touching on those dark issues (secrret darkened anyone?). I frequently have to avoid people/beverages when reading this.

On a side note, it's my birthday on the 14th, AEST, and it would be ridiculous if you updated before then,

My otherwise undying (until I die of course) devotion,

Bob Mint chapter 77 . 10/9/2011
I just wanted to let you know that I check this literally every day in anticipation of the next one. Not that I want to rush you in any way; it's better to wait for good things than to force them out, especially in writing. Still, though, every single day. And when I see an update... it feels like Christmas.

(btw, you posted an update to this story on my birthday... it was the best present I got, since I think it was the one after the last real cliffhanger in the Azkaban arc. I was really wondering how Harry was gonna get out of that one...)
EvanWA chapter 77 . 10/9/2011
This is the first review i have left for this entire series, and I am not sure why I waited so long. I love reading this story, and often get others to read it- both because the story is fantastic, and to introduce them to the Less-Wrong literature. Keep up the good work!
bonkie chapter 77 . 10/8/2011
ive finished reading what you have written so far a few days ago. Did a few all nighters to finish it (not the best idea in hindsight:)) i found i can use these methods in my every day life and Im happy about it. Thank you. I was wondering if there was a way to use the bible in HP. I would like to see someones outtake on it, may turn out to be pretty cool. if their is already one oh well just me not looking i guess. Anyways thanks for all the chapters i think you beat J.K. Rowling's longest book. Yay! Your awesome because you write to write not for money.
Anony chapter 77 . 10/8/2011
Suggestion: If you haven't already, read Writing for Story by Pulitzer prize winner, Jon Franklin. Non-fiction short stories still use techniques extremely similar or identical to fiction. His experience and advice can even help you get over your writing anxiety.
Tifereth-Wolfe chapter 77 . 10/7/2011

Excellent, mate. Just ...excellent. Outstanding, if anything else. I finished reading all of it in two nights. I just couldn't stop.

Well then, constructive criticism, if you'll allow me. Please note that I will not apply this from a writer to another, but from a reader to a writer. Meaning, no technicalities-just perceptions. And they're all expressed with the utmost respect-or, at least, I'll try for it to remain that way.

Truth to be told, Author, is that I, not being famliar (and thus learning some things) with some of the more specifically scientific contents of this piece, am missing some things, and I do believe you go out of your way to make the details more elaborate than they ought to be-specially in the mile-long-examples.

It can come across as annoying or intentiolally pretentious for us who have no scientific (and no interest in having, either) knowledge. I know you try to write Harry in an expositionary role to make him explain things in the plainest and simplest way possible-but sometimes, just sometimes, it just isn't enough.

Then again, my first language is Spanish. I am doing my best to understand some concepts, but I may fail. I am, after all, admittedly, not particularly fond of science. Maths, Physics, Chemistry... not my cup of tea, at all. They were my most dreaded subjects at school, and they remain to be so, even now that I'm well past High School.

I may or may not be biased.

Summing that up in a way that is simpler and more to the point: you sometimes explain things in ways so complicated for us the common folk that the story is hard to follow, despite the gripping narrative and the -amazing- storyline.

That's pretty much all I have to critizice. I adore your story, however, and I do wish you would update soon, and I do hope that you haven't feel insulted by anything that I've expressed, or how I've expressed it. I'm attempting to put to use the very best of my vocabulary for you... I'm doing my best.

Now onto the rest...

Holy schnitz, Snape just kissed a student.

Love from Argentina,

Tifereth, (AKA Florencia)
Jason chapter 77 . 10/7/2011
The prior probability that I would have read a 77-chapter Harry Potter fanfic was close to zero, but evidently I failed to condition on good writing.

Pop culture references mostly grate, though. (I'll make an exception for Dumbledore and Potter discussing Tolkien, which seems plausible for some reason.)
Argency chapter 77 . 10/7/2011
Following on from my earlier, review/blackmail - I've now referenced this fic in at least one assignment for every course I'm enrolled in. It's like MoR is the degree I wanted to sign up for but couldn't, so I just had to brickolage myself a second-best option. I had a half-hour discussion with a doctor of Epistemology and Metaphysics yesterday about Bayesian Probability and may now have an honors project lined up as a result. Please, Professor Yudkowsky, I've done all my homework and all the recommended reading - can we have the next lecture soon?
Master Simoes chapter 77 . 10/7/2011
Ok, let's go with this. I usually don't write reviews - to be most honest, I don't usually read fanfic, and, when I do, my review process is more on the lines of trashing the ideas I find the more distasteful or moronic to the people around me instead of trying to come up with a true criticism. The reason why is clear: people do not want to hear the truth, people want to hear people agreeing with them. However, I read some of your thoughts on your blog and I have come to the conclusion that maybe I should try and review.

First off, I have enjoyed your fiction hugely, more than I have enjoyed anything in a long time. Not only in a sense that I could get inside the plot, but also that I could finally see some characters reacting with theirs brains, as is rare.

On the other hand, I would like to offer some ideas to refine your fanfic. 1) I liked when you used pop-culture references, but I feel that only the bcharacters/b should make them, not the universe, specially when it is something easy to catch (the name "mr. Beater" for the occlumens instructor is the example that most easily comes to my mind). When a character uses a knowledge like this, it makes us feel like he lives in a greater universe, but when the universe 'quotes', it brings to fore its artificial nature. 2) The long explanations of theory were handled in two different ways during the fic. Between two characters, in conversations, like Quirrel and Potter and Malfoy and Potter, and in long infodumps. I feel I am not talking only for myself when I say the former is way, way better than the latter.

Anyway, I would like to conclude saying I can't hardly wait for the next chapter(s?), and by explaining my overly formal tone by saying that, well, English is not my first language, and that I kinda actually talk like this. p

Keep up the good work and good bye.

Guest chapter 77 . 10/7/2011
A great story so far. I am looking forward to the next book. I like the mixture of science and magic. Michael
GBTtown chapter 77 . 10/7/2011
I read from 72 forward and it was just... confusing. So much angst is not good for the digestion. I am not speaking of the angst of love as written by too many authors around HP. The anxiety of good and bad in these chapters is, to say the least, confusing. I guess it may be a character fault of my own. It either is or isn't.
chickandegg chapter 77 . 10/5/2011
This story is, without exaggeration, one of the most mind-blowing stories I have ever experienced (and I've seen both Evangelion AND Revolutionary Girl Utena). I am absolutely fascinated by Harry's character and outlook on life and have started browsing the articles on LessWrong wiki. This could be life-changing for me. Thank you very much :) (Isn't it interesting how fictional stories can be used to teach truth?)
Maggie-baka chapter 77 . 10/5/2011
I like this story a lot. However, a few things caught my attention:

I expected this story to only have one separation point from canon, Petunia's choice of husband. I see now that wasn't the case. Not that that's bad.

You seem to have completely reworked how magic works. For example: a Squib is the nonmagical child of magical parents. Not something magically distinct from wizards/witches and muggles.

Are these things on purpose?
TJeanetteT chapter 77 . 10/5/2011
Loved! Super wonderful seeing this story progress and it's characters mature. :)
Elf Knight chapter 77 . 10/5/2011
While I am not particularly fond of Dark!Harry stories and ones with Good!Slytherin, you have really done a fabulous job of this. You don't turn Ron into a Draco Malfoy (when he's a prat) and all your characters are really fleshed out which is amazing. Aside from a few character-bashing scenes, I have not found a single cliche and this story is mind-blowing.

The science is awesome (even though I don't understand a lot of it, I'm ashamed to say) and your version of Harry is one of the best I have ever seen. The only thing is that I am not too keen on his Dark Side and you still have to remember that he is still an eleven-year-old boy and prone to some eleven-year-old things.

Nonetheless, you have done a superb job of his character and - being a fan of Harmony (HarryXHermione, H/Hr, etc) myself - I absolutely loved Harry and Hermione's relationship. It's not sappy, mushy, and cliche nor does it take it to the other extreme. There are some Love/Hate stories out there where Harry's a prat and Hermione's a total Mary Sue which really ticks me off.

You didn't do that, however, and I thank you for it. Moreover, your version of Dumledore is very good to. For while he is a manipulative old bastard, he is a 'good' manipulative old bastard or as good as it gets in your world (no offence as that is meant to be a good thing, sorta). He's not trying to ellimnate the Potter family and steal their fortune, etc.

All of which is really, really stupid in my opinion. I thought he was a slight control freak but really only wanted to bring down Voldermort for the good of the people. So I guess you could say I'm half a fan of Dumledore. I'm just sick and tired of people making him evil as all the cliches have been used to the death and it's really, really annoying to read the same thing in so many Harmony (and other/no pairing) fanfics.

You, however, have not done that to a great extent. It pops up every now and then but is more or less pretty well done. It is all very justified and I love the whole Lord of the Rings analogy that shows up once in a while. The only problem is that you sometimes take out the magic of Hogwarts and that irks me a bit.

That's one issue I have with Powerful/Muggle!Harry stories as they totally rip away the magic and mystery of the Wizarding World which is one of its only appealling aspects, and primarily why I read Harry Potter fanfiction - for Harmony as well of course. Moving on, I thought it was genius of you to have that battle. Though while slightly disturbing, it really matures the characters and, I think, will prepare them for the Second Wizarding War.

Perhaps Professor Quirrell is a double agent (congrats on your stunning version of him by the way), and is working to bring about Voldermort as a servent but not with him in his head. That would be way too obvious but you never know. He was kind of creepy in Azkaban and that whole episode did kind of disturb me. Harry's patronus was the BEST I have ever seen and I was awed by it.

The ape/man/thing was freaking awesome and I would love to see it in action. While playing a Harry Potter video game the other day, I recalled that there was only one wizard (I forget his name) in the history of the world who could cast his patronus as big as a giant. Imagine if Harry, in all his smart awesomeness, could do that. I think it would shred up the Dementors in no time!

Anyhow, I better wrap this up before I bore you to tears. Just know that I am now a huge fan of this (creepy/dark parts aside) and think that nearly everything about it is bloody brilliant of you. I am actually running out of adjectives to compliment you on your stunning job, as stupid as that sounds.

Needless to say, will most certainly keep an eye on this nugget of gold for future updates. So I must bid you a sad fairwell, sad that there's no more brilliance to read but hopeful and happy that I finally finished this - for your chapters are an excellent length, and really, really good stuff.

Keep up the fantastical work! :)
Mope chapter 77 . 10/4/2011
I am sad that the story hasn't been updated yet, so I am listening to the Feynman Series to Keep me company, update soon please.
anon chapter 77 . 10/4/2011
loonyphoenix: So despite the very unreliable detectors you can still tell with 100% certainty which box contains the diamond? :p
Sau chapter 77 . 10/4/2011
Oh no... Is this going to be another extremely long wait for the next chapter?

Okay but still. I LOVE HPMOR!
AlbinoButterfly chapter 77 . 10/4/2011
Yup. Ate those words with ketchup a while back.
Shi chapter 77 . 10/3/2011
This is screamingly brilliant. Better than the books, I think. Fascinating and hilarious and twisty and I can't even TELL who's actually evil. And the re-Sorts make much more sense. And all the warnings in transfiguration are logic, and the magical twins thing is fascinating, and I WANT TO MARRY THIS FIC. I don't even LIKE fanfiction normally, the characters-not-being-right, thing gets me, which is fairly conveniently sidestepped by them being intentionally different and also me not caring about HP canon anymore. (...and me not remembering the books so well anymore, probably.)

I am very irritated that I have now run out of story and am going to have to wait and forget plot details and argh I have this problem with webcomics I end up with no idea what's going on. There's only so often it's feasible to reread 70 chapters.
xXThunderflameXx chapter 77 . 10/2/2011
Well, Less Wrong, congradulations! This fanfic of yours has entered the realm of my dreams.
greenmanza chapter 77 . 10/2/2011
I'm wondering what the Wizarding world's approach to menstruation is. Would they be more barbaric than Muggles or less, or some combination? As a woman, I'm hoping for some wish fulfillment here, J.K. Rowling tended to sprinkle that sort of thing in here and there (like the Time Turners). It really sucks the way Muggles treat the topic of menstruation culturally, medically, and technologically, although we've made great improvements over the last several decades.

Also, if you wanted to make another Invisibility Cloak, and you needed thestral blood, what if you didn't have to injure the thestral to get it? What if you could...just wait until it menstruates and collect the blood or negotiate for it?

I imagine that Harry, as an 11-year-old boy, would not come up with this on his own without some sort of prompting to think on the subject of menstruation. Even grown men who have more life experience around menstruating women tend not to think about the topic much, and often have a blind spot around it.

When I was a kid, I read lists of how to get common stains out of laundry, and I was puzzled as to why blood was on the list. Yes, people cut themselves, or scrape their knee, but do they really do it so much as for it to be a common stain? Then, after I started menstruating I realized that there is a lot of blood around once a month, and that it is rather common to end up getting it on something.

Muggle teenage boys may not realize this, but at a certain point muggle teenage girls become a lot less squeamish than them about blood, due to familiarity.

I also wonder if it would give female Dark Wizards an edge. After all, they would have a ready supply of blood for blood rituals. Unless menstrual blood didn't work for those for some reason, which would be sad. Female stuff gets denied or dismissed often enough that it would be disappointing to add this to the pattern.

I wonder what Hermione would think of the Wizarding approach to menstruation and what experiments she would do.
TLCFTW chapter 77 . 10/2/2011
I think this story will stay with me for a long time. Thank you very much for your impeccable wit and hard work.
M chapter 77 . 10/1/2011

Hope you update soon!
Anon chapter 77 . 10/1/2011
I've thoroughly enjoyed this fic; the plot is intricate and well-worked, the characters complex and realistically portrayed (I especially love that Harry and Hermione are complex and intelligent but still obviously eleven and twelve year olds), and it is overall an excellent work of fiction. More than that, though, it has helped me crystallize some ideas about rationalism, and inspired me to begin more thoroughly examining my own habits of thought. The Sequences have been helpful in this regard.

Thank you.
greenmanza chapter 77 . 9/30/2011
Hahahaha. The part about how Snape kissed was great.
Notatranshumanistbutstillafan chapter 77 . 9/29/2011

I know that you are busy currently with the Singularity Festival, LW stuff and whatnot. I'm just writing to say that a new chapter would be very welcome, even if you have only written one. I'm saying this lately you seem to post only after writing a few.

Reader-anonymous-writer chapter 77 . 9/29/2011
~ Helga Hufflepuff's Chamber of Hard Work and Practice.

It is too hackneyed when all of them are called chambers. Let them be: Armoury of Defense, Loyal Garden (reap what you have sown), Library of Knowledge (long lost and not yet known), Chamber of Secrets (better left to most unknown).

~ all this is starting to spin out of control

It has gotten out of control long ago.

~ They weren't scientists, the bullies of Hogwarts. But even they, Draco knew, were going to want to test it.

Does anybody know how Harry teaches curious Draco to see truth, even when it contradicts beliefs? I think this 'friendship' of Harry and Draco is the reason Harry said "I am sure that Draco Malfoy isn't behind it.", and Harry thinks nobody knows of it. Though I would not be surprised if some of the Professors do know.

~ I no longer find your concerns so entertaining

Professor Quirrell is too cold, he is interested in entertainment more than in helping others. At the same time, he is tired, and it becomes boring, when one miracle or another saves heroines from bullies, and still the bullies don't retreat, but continue to look for a way to crash them.

~ REALLY IMPORTANT everyone has to be there - Millicent

Previous notes to Daphne were unsigned, always, weren't they? Hermione is right to be suspicious.

~ Professor Snape? He's the one who's been interfering?

I think that Professor Snape tried to figure out who is behind the bullies, but instead has fallen into the trap here (he was stunned by the many curses of white-robed bullies). But the bullies pretend to think he is on their side ("He heard us passing the word and came along to make sure nobody screwed it up again.").

~ "You who know the gate, who are the gate, the key and guardian of the gate:

~ I bid you open the way for him, and manifest his power before me!"

I would make a wild and banal guess:

He/It is the Grim Reaper, the Death.

~ Verres


~ Professor Quirrell was under one of those face-concealing white robes... Because Professor Quirrell doesn't like school bullies and I asked very politely

I was under impression people in white robes were bullies. Direct quote: "white-robed bullies" So him being under one of those white robes means he is a bully, which would be inexplicable. Why would he do it? Was he then infiltrating the bullies by wearing white robes?

Dumbledore should have said:

World isn't exactly black-and-white,

There is no clearly seen dividing line,

Between bullies, so-called evil side,

And protectors, so-called light side.

Every person has his own dark side,

No person should be too powerful.

Every person has his own light side,

No person should be considered evil.

Right now caught bullies might think:

Harry Potter is not any better than us,

He is stronger and has better reputation,

We join him, as strongest one, in a blink,

Under pretense of protecting can harrass

Others freely, to bring to victims 'salvation',

Leading the world to a violent war's brink,

Letting our reputation as the heroes amass,

Freely using against others our 'intimidation',

And calling any competing gangs bullies...

Violence isn't the only proper response,

You should understand why others attack,

Should know motives before next move,

Violence alone will not change their mind,

Will not let them understand why it's not right

For stronger side to harrass the weaker one.

~ And if, come that day, you still think that evil must never pass unchallenged -

The 'evil' people should be not restrained but led to understanding of their mistakes, of incorrectness of their 'evil' actions.

~ Not fighting, but winning.

It was not bloodshed. But still, it was not fair.

~ hadn't owled them all hand grenades over the course of five minutes.

They believe in law, in second chance, in just punishment, in open trial...

~ Do you know, there are those who have tried to soften my darker moods, and those who have indeed participated in brightening my day, but you are the first person ever to succeed in doing it deliberately?

Thank you for the compliment.

~ I suppose Dr. Seuss also has a natural talent for Dark rituals, because the part about shuffle, duffle, muzzle, muff came from a children's book called Bartholomew and the Oobleck -

Amusing. But the parts about the darkness, and the gate, were truly frightening.

~ The most dread chant I have encountered does not sound even a hundredth as fearsome as the chant you composed... If there existed a true ritual that impressive, it would melt the Earth.

But then, scientists created the nuclear bombs. So, the ritual did work somehow, Harry's presence was manifested, through eyes. The question is: what was sacrificed?

~ A very strange thing... There was a time when I would have sacrificed a finger from my wand hand, to work upon the bullies of Hogwarts as we have worked upon them this day. To make them fear me as they now fear you, to have the deference of all the students and the adoration of many. You have everything now what I wanted then. All that I know of human nature says that I should hate you. And yet I do not. It is a very strange thing... Harry felt as though he were a little fish, and vast white shark had just looked him over and decided after a visible hesitation not to eat him.

I have expected the coldness. And considering that Voldemort was a half-blood in Slytherin, I wouldn't be surprised if Tom, Quirrell and Severus were in similar position: outcasts, looking to rise above others.

Tracey, tragical comedian. No soul was sacrificed. Why does Pansy imply Harry is the next Dark Lord?

~ Tracey ate my soul!

Not. Something has changed, but it's not as bad as Dementor's kiss, her soul wasn't eaten.

~ I don't even know a name for this kind of fallacious reasoning

With all the confusion, truth shall be lost amidst rumours.

~ If that was the price of being a hero, she wasn't sure she wanted to pay it.

I wouldn't want to pay it. Nobody should bear such burden. Instead of one hero, there should be collective effort of people helping each other.

~ They'd made a difference...

Congratulations. She was warned that SPEW is going to be disbanded - I hope only her belief in authority shattered, not something else. Ah, Professor Snape's mask is too good. He is the one who was giving Hermione times and places to meet the bullies, and despite the way he attacked her in public, he actually expedited the success.

~ I would not have done that even to him -

Why are Dementors in British jail? Because Britain is behind times? Because they don't know what to do with Dementors?

It's still intriguing. What is Professor Snape doing? And what about Professor Quirrell? Neither of them is going to blindly obey Dumbledore; and they might be on Voldemort's side only if Quirrell and Voldemort are one and the same, otherwise there are too many sides to choose: Dumbledore, Voldemort, Quirrell, Harry and Draco and Hermione... It's likely there will be some alliances formed, instead of complete devotion of bonded.

~ you don't know half of what you pretend to know

The speaker sows distrust and confusion, probably for his own ends, even if a riddle sometimes gives truth, it still with confusion torments.

~ appearances can be misleading

Yes, but I have yet to see this stranger helping anybody. Though pain in his voice would make me pause and reconsider, too - at least, the person doesn't intend this to be a joke or a humiliation, but genuinely tries to help somebody, even if not Hermone. If I remember correctly, he influenced Zabini to make the draw and wanted to get Dumbledore and Quirrell arguing?

~ I've been sent to help you, so please don't be afraid. I am your servant in all things; for you, my Lady, are the bearer of a most marvelous destiny -

I will not believe this. It sounds too good to be true.

~ it was strange, because the smile wasn't sardonic, or angry, or cold.

Does Professor Snape, for some strange reason, allow himself to be without mask here?

~ Power he knows not... it must be more than some unknown spell.

Imaginative rationality? He has created a ritual and destroyed a Dementor without trying to.

I still cannot grasp all intrigues here; too much secrets are revealed which aren't answers to previous questions, and still some questions are left answered. I have read the whole prophecy before so the bits mentioned here don't confuse me.


I cannot understand how he managed to create this strange line.

And either must die at the hand of the other,

For neither can live while the other survives.

Logical problem: Harry was living happily a year while Voldemort survived. Later, their enmity might prevent them from living their lives fully until the conflict is resolved. Even then, 'death' doesn't have to be understood literally and permanently; it could also be rebirth, or change of perception of the world - which would allow for their reconciliation, and resolution of the conflict.

I wish Harry understands somewhen that Professor Snape is much better person than his masks imply.

He has to act, intentions and abilities of people around him unknown, round the clock, day and night.

He protects Death Eaters and their children, favors the House of Slytherin, all the day as Albus's spy.

He trusts not one person, has not a living friend, lives others to defend, on none he can depend...

Rumour mill inside Hogwarts, Professor Snape doesn't relax his mask. Professor Quirrell and his ability to gather information, Professor Snape is so weary. There are too many plots at work, in their mist machinations of Voldemort and his supporters may hide, hardly anybody knows Quirrell's or Voldemort's intentions.

I'm confused, but relieved by revealed information - glad to see positive side of Professor Snape. I'm interested in Professor Quirrell and sense of doom Harry seemed to experience around him. Good
L3nZ3r0 chapter 77 . 9/28/2011
This story is incredible, you have amazing talent. The way you portray the characters is incredibly realistic, the characters that are cannon are cannon in a way that even though they are making different decisions and growing as people it is not unbelievable or hard to believe that "yes, that could have happened in the original". Which is an incredibly difficult thing to find in regards to most fanfiction stories. The way you write them, where they are so incredibly human, and life like, it's difficult to dislike any of your characters. Like Snape for instance, reading the latest chapter has given me the most profound sense of, grief, almost. My guts feel as though they are being crushed, and I would happily rip them out if it meant that the Snape would be happy. It takes incredible talent to make readers feel that level of empathy for a fictional character, so bravo! You are one of my all time favorite writers!
Guest chapter 77 . 9/27/2011
There is IW Iw IM Im

A wizard is either



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A muggle is



Im Im


A Squib is


Iw Im

A Muggleborn is

Iw Iw
Kittah-Khan chapter 77 . 9/27/2011
"That wasn't -" she said in a wondering voice, looking up at him. "That wasn't - was it - your first -"

Welp, talk about saddening.
Gin chapter 77 . 9/26/2011
MSC chapter 77 . 9/26/2011
I just wanted to express my appreciation for the work you put into this book. I stayed up all night to finish it, and I enjoyed it almost as much as I liked the canon. You have definitely gained a fan today.
Periperi chapter 77 . 9/26/2011
Whoa, I've spent since yeterday after-noon reading this story and I have to say I absolutely adore this story and all the art drawn for it. I'm so tempted, I'm going too, to go back and read certain chapters all over again just because they were that entertaining to read. Thank you so much for writting this story it is so different from the many stories I have read of Harry Potter Fan-Fiction. I look forward to your next update!
Wandering the Arid Sea chapter 77 . 9/26/2011
truly epic.

cant help but wonder who is Santa Claus and what has happened to Bella. Cards to be played later, but seemingly both possible escape routes.

I think that Quirell is the figure in black.

Hermione is being manipulated. Betrayal later on ?

Draco and Lucius makes me think of Hamlet, in that the son must kill the father.

the final quirell battle between the three generals should be epic. not sure if I missed it, but is Neville of Chaos still part of the Chaos Legion ?

10 to 120th power / 5

pure win.
KuziNitch chapter 77 . 9/25/2011
Cool story bro. I've read it over several times, and there's plenty of little bits I enjoyed like the scene with Lucius at the platform and later Harry telling Draco about it, the casting of his Patronus - version 2 - all the good stuff.

The more recent chapters feel a tad more expositiony than usual but that's probably just me; while I love long stories, things have to keep happening or my non-native command of English gets me bogged down trying to decipher the philosophical stuff.

Keep it up!
youxcan'txstop chapter 77 . 9/24/2011
ahh well I like all of your readers will be waiting faithfully until this is continued :)
Ryan Wise chapter 77 . 9/24/2011
First of all, thank you for yet another excellent chapter. The dialog and exposition were written with your usual delightful style. Please feel free to take that compliment as the worst of narcissists might, as high praise. You have provided me hours of stimulating entertainment, and I am grateful.

There is just one small gnat in this beautiful soup of a chapter, one small over-ripe metaphor in an otherwise bountiful literary harvest. And for that I'd like to share a little exercise I picked up in college which was intended to make our writing styles fresher and less cliche.

We would all sit in a circle and read, each in turn, pieces that we'd written. And if anyone happened to describe the effect of any insult, intrigue or turn of fate as "cutting like a knife" we would all pull out actual knives and stab the transgressor until they had forsworn the cliche forever. The aggregate freshness of our writing was thus vastly improved.

You have used this very metaphor twice in the past several chapters, and the effect on your beautiful prose was as a man who had taken a sledge hammer to a portion of beautiful stained glass. Just a portion, mind, an inconspicuous corner. But those small jags and splinters capture the eye.

Could I get you to swear upon George Orwell's essay "Politics and the English Language," Strunk and White's "Elements of Style" or any other text sacred to those who write

with care and deliberation to abandon this particular metaphor? If so my appreciation would be overwhelming. And thanks again for the great chapter.
StrangePointOfView chapter 77 . 9/24/2011
I love this story. I wish I could find the words to tell you how much I love this story.

First off, there's the way you rationalize the wizarding world's many secrets, especially the Dementors and the Comed-tea. You make this less of a fantasy, and more of a science fiction, and in an unusual twist it works.

You also add a lot of character to your characters. I especially like the few times where the kids who aren't geniuses talk. Your innocent wit is refreshing and comical.

I can't thank you enough for writing this. It has been truly inspirational, both in the way I think and in the way I write. I'm currently writing a Harry Potter fanfiction, and it draws some inspiration from your story. I've also posted a modified version of your 'Philosophy of Fanfiction' on my profile page.

You are a masterful writer, and I hope anything I write turns out to be as good as this. Keep up the extraordinary work.
AR chapter 77 . 9/23/2011
I wonder how many labels we hear everyday that mark us for the rest of our lives. How carelessly people attribute to us what THEY believe we are and how foolishly we never think to ourselves "what if I wasn't? What if I could?"

The story of the eagle that thought it was a chicken..
Kevin Barry chapter 77 . 9/23/2011
This work is one of the most remarkable I have ever read.

The author has demonstrated complete and utter understanding of the characters in the Harry Potter series. He has brought these characters to new and interesting situations, and created responses that mesh with my idea of the characters. At times I forget that this is not a part of an official HP book, or JK's notes.

He has made some characters completely new, and has made me to care for them. He has created an interesting, original, plot with these characters that has completely hooked me.

He has done all of the above while maintaining perfect internal consistency with the feeling and technical details of the Harry Potter universe and his own growing story.

Bravo! Thank you! Please don't die before finishing this story!
bramble chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
Oh god, Snape. Rianne. My heart is breaking here.
Julian Delphiki chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
The prophesy in this world has a clearly exploitable loophole that Harry will laugh at if he hears the whole thing. Instead of neither living while the other survives, they just aren't supposed to be on the same world at the same time. Not a difficult thing considering Harry's end goal is immortality for humanity and to spread across the universe.
Ink Flute chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
Well, I guess now that I'm up to the most recent chapter, I darned well ought to leave a review. This story has made me laugh, shiver, and think, and I've enjoyed it (even the headaches). Perhaps especially the headaches. I'm looking forward to more, and I intend to at least glance over the supplementary material.
lol chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
No! No! No! No! Fanfiction writer, sir, madam, what have you done? Not only is this Fanfiction far from finished, it is also far superior to any other one i have ever read! How could you do this to innocent old me? Do you really, ACTUALLY, expect me to bother reading the rest of the dribble on this site? REALLY? You've now made it impossible for me to bother even trying to read another fanfiction without thinking terrible thoughts such as, 'Less Wrong would never have made a simple grammatical error such as that' or, 'What a stupid plot point, - they weren't present in Rationality, *sigh*'. I mean was it really that horribly necessary for you to write this Fanfiction? Thousands of potential fics, cast out the window! And the blame falls entirely upon your shoulders! Why, OH WHY? Why is it so good? So excellent? It just doesn't make any sense! I can't comprehend it's awesome-ness.


Professor Quirrell... Professor... Quirrell... Ahhh, i feel the tears pooling behind my eyes at that excellent direction i just... i don't even ... Words can't express how awesome Quirrell is, it's just like so abnormally good.

And i love it how they're all like, Mr. Potter and Ms. Granger to each other, so good!

Even though, and i admit this with some reluctance, i am too stupid, dimwitted, dull, slow, tired, mentally deficient, ADHD-ridden, mad, and among other things, blonde to understand the majority of things that Harry thinks/talks about (and much too lazy to google what he is talking about) It doesn't matter! Because i can kind of PRETEND i know the significance of whatever he's blabbing on about within the overall scheme of the plot, and i can just say 'yeah i think i get that' and 'i'm pretty sure i see what that means' and at the worst of times, the earliest and latest hours, 'fuck it ill just read it and even if i don't understand i'll see what it means later' yeah. cool. but seriously, Mr. Goyle and Mr. Crabbe are so good. Dumbledore's kinda cool too, and i like the whole burning that chicken thing y'know?

And i will die if you don't finish this story but then i will hunt you down in the afterlife (even though there isn't one) because you will have died (because that's the only logical reason and only excuse i will allow you for not having finished this masterpiece)


This fics pre' cool, i guess. Just guessing here, though.

Turtle Kid the Woolgatherer chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
When Rianne said that part about the marriage contract I laughed out loud. And, while it's sad that that was Snape's first kiss in this fic, I can see it actually being that way in canon as well as this fic. Which is . . . very, very sad.
Anonymous chapter 77 . 9/22/2011
Brilliant idea to promote rationality by using Harry Potter as a vehicle.

Interesting read, I laughed a lot and enjoyed it very much. Look forward to new chapters!
Oo chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
Just read your authors note. Don't burn your self out! You don't owe use anything. If you need a break take one. It's better then this turning into work where your only reward is some praise. How long can that last before you just don't want to do it anymore?
SmallCircleApproximation chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
I've read all 77 existing chapters more than once and thought I should leave a review to say how much I've enjoyed HPMOR and how much I look forward to future chapters.

The pace [not the publishing pace, but the pace of the story] seemed to slow down a bit during part of this Self Actualization arc, but I'm happy to note that it seems to be picking back up again.

My favorite part of the series is the scientific investigations of the nature of magic, which fill a big hole for me in the original series. I hope you write some more on this; it's been a while.
showstopper573 chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
viva la review semi revolution!
totalreadr at yahoo chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
I've noticed that while Harry/the narrator calls Minerva "McGonagall" until Harry gets to know her, and Binns "Binns," and Dumbledore "Dumbledore," and Quirrell "Quirrell"...

Harry/narrator calls Lucius Malfoy "Lucius," and (especially) Snape "Severus." The latter even before Harry has ever met him.



Ch. 27 doesn't defeat my suspension of disbelief, because Snape doesn't give Harry the full story. How the boy wasn't just wooing, but was a best friend from before puberty; how the girl therefore could not have been just beautiful, but rather had to have had best-friend-before-puberty-worthy qualities. (Note BTW that it's quite possible to love a best friend for their many good qualities despite any shallowness that may also be present.)

But ch. 77...does defeat my suspension of disbelief.

Because Snape and Lily *were* best friends before puberty.

So I just can't see Snape equating himself to some random boy who not only isn't a girl's friend, but doesn't even speak to her and just watches her from afar.

I don't know about you, but I see a huge difference there:

The difference between "creepy" and "not surprising"; the difference between "pathetic" and...well, again, "not surprising."

Eliezer, I know you've lost a sibling. I have as well. I'm not trying to disrespect your genuine loss when I say...

It seems to me that when you're best friends, you may love each other as much as siblings do. Not in the same way, since friendship can sometimes lead to romance (and sometimes not). But as much as.

So imagine siblings. Imagine a civil war. Imagine they had a falling-out around the age of 16 over sides in this war (as Sirius and Regulus did). Imagine one of them joined up, perhaps to show his big brother he too could be heroic (as interview canon says Snape joined to impress Lily). Imagine his actions led indirectly to his sibling's death. (I am suddenly flashing on the American Revolution version of the song "The Ballad of Donald Monroe." Hey, that was originally a civil war too.)

Might he switch to his dead sibling's side, in the sibling's honor, and/or to avenge the sibling's death?

Would he still love his dead sibling decades later?

I don't see how this changes if you make them best friends instead.

Not even if, upon hitting puberty years after they'd become best friends, one of them developed a sexual attraction *too*.

I just think you're drastically oversimplifying the Snape/Lily backstory here. In a way that makes Snape's behavior defeat my suspension of disbelief. I can see Snape leaving out the info, "I acted like a future DE, making my best friend think less of me. Oh and THEN called her a Mudblood." I can't see him painting himself as pining from afar when actually he's talking about his *best friend*.

(Two nitpicky additional points: (1) interview canon says Lily could have loved Snape romantically if it weren't for his obsession with the Dark Arts; this implies her real problem wasn't shallowness but rather confusing "likes Dark Arts" with "thinks I'm inferior for being Muggleborn"; (2) canon James *isn't* handsome, he's skinny and speccy with an unremarkable face. Unlike Sirius, who *is* described as handsome. I always found it amusing that both James and Snape were skinny and dark-haired! Methinks we know Lily's type. Anyway, James *was* rich - and also charismatic, good at sports, and consequently popular - so you could still argue Lily was shallow...but not on the grounds of James' "good looks." But I don't think Lily was shallow, see point 1.)

Nice parody of Mary Sue names though.

Oh and what outlawpoet said.


I like ch. 6's point about some gifted children's lack of trustworthy authorities and consequent isolation. I think (or maybe just hope) your vignette communicates the issue with an emotional clarity that Hollingworth's description in /Children Above 180 IQ/ lacks. She just told it; you show it. I hope you read Hollingworth at a young age and learned that you weren't the only one to have felt that way.
Mr Stereo1 chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
For the record I'd like to place the non-secured wagers that Amelia Bones burned Narcissa alive in revenge for the deaths of one or more of her friends of family, possibly in an attempt to kill Lucius, possibly not, based on her focus on vengeance throughout her appearance in the Azkaban section, and the line 'Someone would burn for this' (paraphrasing from memory, I'm afraid.)

In addition, I think that Dumbledore's story-based worldview craziness is something he developed to provide alternate explanations for actions which would otherwise give hints of his intentions to his enemies, like keeping Snape as a Professor, for example. Instead of a hint that Snape's a double-agent, or at least a triple-agent, it could instead be spun as Dumbledore wanting an evil potions professor for his school. It would be high maintenance, but if he knows enough and he still feels he could trust his allies, it's a possibility... the most plausible-sounding one that's occurred to me, at least.
Ryn chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
(not to state the obvious or anything but) Thank you so much!

As I'm sure you know - it would be hard not to given that it's partly the point of your fic - you have a fantastic plot! It's intricate without being ridiculous, or resorting to 'ah yes but I happen to know that you are secretly an expert on poisons brewed from this one specific flower that only blooms in the heart of South Africa for one week, a week that you so happen to not have an alibi for' esque scenarios that always leave the reader feeling cheated out of any chance at solving the mystery. Plus, leaving aside saying all the things that we've been tearing our hair out over every time we pick up a harry potter book, you tackle some serious issues and manage to make me genuinely laugh and a lot harder than I have at any book or fiction in a long time, even when I'm alone and there's no one who could possibly hear me, well, leaving out secret agent spy gear etc - I'm not deluded enough to believe I'm that interesting.

In short THANK YOU!

and (because, let's face it, it wouldn't be a real review without it) please update soon.
MizukiYumeko chapter 77 . 9/21/2011
Is it sad that I stayed up till 5 in the morning to read this? Oh well... Keep writing! It's amazing so far, even through the not-so-fun parts where people get in trouble. And it makes me laugh. Laughing is good.

..I have to get up in about 45 minutes to get ready for school... Kind of makes me wonder if I should sleep at all..
chaosglory626 chapter 77 . 9/20/2011
I cried a little. It had absolutely nothing to do with Snape, I was just weeping at the fact that I had caught up. Now I have to wait for more of this amazing story.

I have found that I really like fics that take the main character and turn them into a mad scientist. Much hilarity and awesomeness ensues.

Keep up the good work. This is probably one of the best fics on this site.
Mike chapter 77 . 9/20/2011
Anxiously waiting for the next chapter...its been two weeks! Im going into Rationality Withdrawal...
Doctorpat chapter 77 . 9/18/2011
His first...? Oh I get it now. It took 3 readings to work it out.

Which is why I've read the ENTIRE thing 3 times so far.

And will probably read it again.
anon chapter 77 . 9/18/2011
I just spent fifteen hours reading this.

I think it was the most worthwhile fifteen hours I've ever spent. Thanks for changing the world; I fully expected you to be ruling it.
Kutta chapter 77 . 9/18/2011
Great chapter
Wpwzers chapter 77 . 9/16/2011
Absolutely amazing. Ive been unable to tear myself away from this story for the week that it took me to read it! Your writing style and grammar is excellent, and the content is engaging and enthralling. Great story, well written. Congrats!

Ps...cannot wait until it's finished!
Mrfuji3 chapter 77 . 9/15/2011
Awesome, new chapters! Great work, I really like Harry's and Dumbledore's interactions. Dumbledore has no hope of ever understanding Harry. Ooh and Snape's whole sideplot/breaking away from Dumbledore:great. He needs to be honest with Quirrel so they can join forces (and by that I mean he becomes Quirrel's minion.) Also you just kind of left us hanging with Hermione, didn't you?

Post new chapters soon!
violasong chapter 77 . 9/15/2011
This story makes me incredibly happy. As an aspiring rationalist, this is a fantastically entertaining introduction to the concepts. As a hopeless romantic I find the story emotionally satisfying and I wish I could live in its imaginary world.
Knocks chapter 77 . 9/15/2011
I can see why you've got about 14k reviews. I'm simply in awe of this AU and to realize it's just the first year...

Chris Robins chapter 77 . 9/15/2011
Wonderful story, truly a one of a kind. I think it's also one of the few stories that manages to portray Snape in such a realistic fashion. He may be an incredibly large git, but he is still human.

Well done!
Rand chapter 77 . 9/15/2011
Excellent as always.
HPMORfan9000 chapter 77 . 9/14/2011
I have faith in you. You can do it! And 85% of it will be awesomesauce!
Delta chapter 77 . 9/14/2011
Bloody hell.

It took me a while to get what Snape was getting at with his "it would explain the word 'must'". If those two ingredients must not exist in the same cauldron, they burn the cauldron when they mix. If those two CANNOT . . .

. . . it means that by the time they start mixing, there's no cauldron left.

That sent shivers down my spine when I got it.
Aquillo chapter 77 . 9/14/2011
Wow. And I really mean that: wow.

The idea of inserting reason and science into Harry Potter is actually quite obvious, and it is in no way this story's best selling point: inserting it in whilst being able to make me laugh out loud and make every philosophical point seem entirely natural, and yet still making it into an original story with a plot that works is quite simply remarkable.

You have quite the gift.
orpeles chapter 77 . 9/14/2011
You are a genius. I think I've read the whole story about 5 times already, and I keep wishing I could read it for the first time again.

Toda Raba.

Sealort chapter 77 . 9/13/2011
I never cease to be amazed by MoR. Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Other chapter 77 . 9/13/2011
Looks like someone fell prey to the Planning Fallacy.

Don't worry. I like all the bits you have written; so, you can honestly say to yourself that SOMEONE likes the "other bits" while not deluding yourself.
newotplol chapter 77 . 9/13/2011
I feel so naughty for reading this, but WOW, Snape, that's just pathetic.
Jess chapter 77 . 9/13/2011
This fic is completely addictive. Now that I've read through all the story so far, perhaps my boyfriend will see a bit more of me at last!

Thanks so much for writing it, and please don't stop.
Guest chapter 77 . 9/12/2011
This whole thing gets more and more convoluted! I can't wait to see how everything turns out or where this all goes. Through out reading I've had some laugh-out-loud moments... Well, a lot of laugh-out-loud moments. Especially the part with Dumbledore setting fire to a chicken. I can't wait to see who the person in the cloak and top hat who can also be a pretty silvber lady is and I really can't wait to see what's going on with Professor Snape... though I love the fact that you keep pointing out how pathetic he really is throughout the books. And... yeah... Not a fanfic fan... but couldn't stop reading this one. Keep up the good story!
Kelly chapter 77 . 9/12/2011
That was so amazingly moving... Although I've always had a soft spot for Snape. Thank you for your continuing rationality!

scorpioneldar chapter 77 . 9/11/2011
odd but interesting
madbrad chapter 77 . 9/11/2011
An interesting little expose of Snape, surprisingly touching. Even given the harsh condemnation of Rowling's foundation for the entire series (or Snape's part in it) - 'totally pathetic'. Yes, I found the whole "he did it all for the 20-year crush he had on the girl who not only spurned him but married his worst enemy and bore him a child even when tortured by the dark lord for more than 15 years without falter" quite contrived too. But that's Rowling for you, simplistic artificial plotting.

A surprising and quite poignant neat little twist there at the end, though.

I have absolutely no idea why Snape was feeding the intelligence to Hermione, but it was a good chapter nonetheless, thanks. :-)
Jack Sprat chapter 77 . 9/11/2011
An enjoyable chapter. I await the end of the interlude, even if the interlude advances the plot and makes interesting half reveals.
CrazyLemon chapter 77 . 9/11/2011
You keep surprising me all the time!

The last time i felt a story was so well written was when i was reading harry potter for the first time. The reactions and thoughts of the characters are really well thought out and realistic. Keep up the awesomeness!
Graham Percival chapter 77 . 9/10/2011
The memory charm seems incredibly powerful and game-inbalancing. Notwithstanding the whole groundhog day attack (which is awesome), it seems to mean that relatively powerful wizards can do almost anything they want with no repercussions. I mean, what if Snape /had/ decided to start an underground dungeon sex club for girls? As long as he oblivated them afterwards, "no harm, no foul", right? That seems to be the overall "culture" of wizards, at least... :(

I'm really hoping that Harry noticing something weird with Hermione, comes to suspect a memory charm, and then invents some charm to detect and reverse such charms (possibly with her help). Just imagine all the chaos that would happen if they cast a "mass memory-charm-removal" at dinner one day!

As far as the writing goes: good job laying out some of the moral issues with memory charms and the "death of thoughts" aspect. My disapproval of memory charms has no bearing on your skills as a writer!
ladyastralis chapter 77 . 9/10/2011
I think I love your version of Snape. More please.
anon chapter 77 . 9/10/2011
seirios aster: Actually homeschooling has a large number of advantages. Things like (a potentially massive) increased learning rate and being able to maintain a high level of interest in subjects.

And if a child has great difficulty interacting positively with other children (like I did* and like this Harry does) it might be the better option.

* I still have no clue how I would interact with children while being one myself, but thankfully that's a completely useless skill to learn and I picked up all the important social lessons later on in life when everyone around you isn't a sociopath (yay for children).
Rly chapter 77 . 9/10/2011
Fascinating characterization. Rarely is Snape done well, with that balance between ruthless and careless and human inside.
Tall Tails - Feline Jaye chapter 77 . 9/10/2011
Hm, that was more sparse than usual. It was good, though.
Loonynamelass chapter 77 . 9/9/2011
Awww, Snape is so sweet...
wisecurledqueen chapter 77 . 9/9/2011
So awesome. Sad but funny, this unknown character with an outside view was fantastic. Thank you so much!

boredwriter272 chapter 77 . 9/9/2011
I cried. Snape wishing he'd never been in Slytherin. I love this fic, but this is the first time it's been this emotionally powerful.
eastern rosebud chapter 77 . 9/9/2011
I felt really sorry for Snape at the end of this chapter... really. It's a well written pece, and it seems the plot is again moving forward as we learnt about Snape's investigations into prophecy. Will have to check if you have posted the next chapter at 13th :p
Afina Kedavra chapter 77 . 9/9/2011

made me think that Snape needs his happy ending, too.

Pretty Please Mr Less Wrong? :)
Twigon chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
I cannot praise this enough. Thank you for sharing your brilliance with the us lesser beings.
Mentathiel chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
Once again, a marvellous chapter. My enjoyment of this fic only increases with time. I particularly enjoyed the exploration of Snape's character. Keep up the good work!
Guest chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
I never before replied to someone directly, but I feel compelled to write in response to slice2. You are not just wrong, you are dangerously wrong, because the fallacy is common enough others may fall for it. Of course I only say that because I thought like that once.

This may come as a big surprise, but there are people who value things in life higher than having a partner (or a "girl"), and that is not unreasonable. Something about people attributing too much weight to something they don't have, I assume?

A screwed up, inward personality doesn't need sex. They need people they can connect to. Those things are not the same. Sex positivism may be nice, but a psychotherapic solution it isn't.

Friends, conspirators, ideals, admirers, it doesn't matter. This Snape feels real because that is exactly what he goes after - just ignore that the relationship is abusive and flawed. But people are not equal; I think people have rights over their own minds (and bodies, and lives). So it is even ethically sound.
Hedi Dracona chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
Hmmm, I'm not sure if that kiss was creepy or just really sad. Leaning towards creepy.

This is a sad chapter.
NougatEvolution chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
I love the choice of the ruby-same color as the remembrall when someone's forgotten something big.

I was wondering about the remnant of the other thing, too. Quick, Snape, come join the fans and we'll help you with your riddle... and/or conclude that Hermione's the reincarnation of Ivan Vorpatril or something. :P

Marking as his equal could be what Quirrell's doing *now* with Harry. Or whenever he got past his childhood home security the first time and Obliviated Harry afterward.

Also, new mystery! Why is it "obvious" why Snape's first mentor (presumably the Dark Lord) didn't point out the folly of his love for Lily?
Itachi's apprentice chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
Great work. And the ending with Snape was touching.
Arkh Cthuul chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
A sad and magnificent chapter.
kirkr0se chapter 77 . 9/8/2011

~Mademise Morte
sliced2 chapter 77 . 9/8/2011
Snape needs to get a life.

He's got a perfectly willing girl before him and he chooses not only to use her as his therapist, he lets her go with just a crappy kiss.

He's never kissed or had sex before and he chooses to talk to the girl instead of have sex? He's clearly stressed and the sex would relieve his tension.

What's more, no consequences! He was going to mind-wipe the kid and she was going to enjoy it even under that assumption. It was her fantasy to have sex with him. Plus it's likely she was on birth control pills or knew a spell to prevent conception. Seriously he should have just...

I'll stop here because I'm coming off as a jerk. The point is he had a big opportunity and he totally blew it off.

However I guess since he values his love for Lily so much, it makes sense that he wouldn't settle for anyone else. That's an elimination from the gene pool for being close-minded about love.
More Right chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
What an incredibly poignant chapter...

I wonder if it's entirely too sacrilegious of me to admit that I honestly prefer this over the original series...?
GuesssWho chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Cameron chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Great chapter - only just discovered the fic, and the sequences, and are finding both highly enjoyable.

God it's been a busy year. Still only about three months before the end of year 1 - if your planning to end the fic there not sure how your going to get everything straightened out.

Thanks for it
Beazore chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Great chapter, even if it's somewhat sick I very much want her to remember :(
Almaseti chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Dang. I mean, just... that was one of the most well-put-together chapters so far. Very subtle, very simple, but also really powerful. A really great illustration of why Snape was always such a tragic character. He seems sort of self-hating, and I can sort of see why he'd say yes to her, when she wouldn't remember but it was something that's usually considered so important. Kind of emotionally self-destructive, which does fit Snape well. He hasn't changed much in this AU from the books.

I sort of wish he could let her remember, even if that probably is a terrible idea all around.
Nakedkali chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Call me slow. I didn't get the point of ch76 even though I didn't read it before you had edited it. However, now that I have read ch77 I was now able to piece together what you meant by Groundhog Day in the A/N for ch 76.

Since in this particular chapter Renaia Felthorne doesn't experience the same kind of reality jerk that Hermione does, it isn't immediately apparent to me and if the A/N wasn't there and I was reading the story from scratch I wouldn't get it still. I would have to first infer that perhaps Hermione is more sensitive to this kinda thing or that Snape is a better Ovliviator than whoever is getting Hermione.

We have seen (or think we have) some Oblifiation with Zabini, but it was a while ago. If you used the same words for Zabini's as we have seen for Hermione this is now lost on the reader.

I suggest, adding another obliviation (if this is what is happening, and not some sorta involuntary time turning) of Hermione to Chapter 77, or taking one of the already written ones over to chapter 77 to show that this was an ongoing thing.
yorkshire chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Best chapter yet! That was marvelously told - compelling from beginning to end.
Ham Nox chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
"If the two ingredients mix, they'll catch fire and burn the cauldron?"

That sentence seems much more sinister upon the second read-through than it did on the first. *shudder*

Look how chaotic the world has gotten already...
Rob W chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I'm getting a sense I'm missing a few things here due to a lack of references - I never found the time for the original Harry Potter books - but I recognize the prophesy... I've always assumed that "mark" meant the slightly archaic sense of "observe or recognize", as in "mark my words" vs. putting a physical sign onto something. No? I've no idea how this is handled in the end, in the Lady Rowling version; it does seem silly that it could refer to the scar.

Thanks for this, anyway! I'm eagerly awaiting the next update.
Daniel chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
So, that was never Snape, it was Voldemort, but a the same time, who was the girl he stared at? McGonagal? But that was never even mentioned... And it fits so well into Snape, but dos he thinks he prophecy applies to him? Wll I'm very confused now...
outlawpoet chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Eesh. Pushing the 'Snape is pathetic' button a little hard, are we? Not to argue with the author, but maybe, just maybe, his motivations in canon also have a little to do with guilt over enabling the murder of a childhood friend and crush, and not just an endless loser infatuation?

Unless of course, you're trying to power through his 'hidden motives' as fast as possible to reuse him as a plausibly mysterious hidden factor, in which case, your haste is showing, but I like the direction.

Your pace is kind of falling into the Exploitation Now! trap, with more and more describing less and less. This isn't a problem for plot, but it can be for character development. You don't want a 24-style single day where a person switches sides six times and has two life-changing revelations. Being a crackfic, I can ignore much, but Harry being 11 for all this is starting to strain credulity a little. One hopes you'll make it out of the first year someday.

Draco, Daphne, a Luna headline.
Niqi chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Oh my god. Awkward, terrible-kisser, three-dimensional, real Snape. What are you DOING to us, Eliezer? I'm gonna faint over here.
ForeverMrs.Padfoot chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I think this actually the first chapter I'm reviewing which is quite stupid of me..but well I just really liked this non Harry and Co related chapter :D
L.A.H.H chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Excellent chapter. Thanks for updating x
Darth Parallax chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
This Dumbledore, I just realized, is a highly innaccurate portrayal, I believe mistakenly inspired by Dumbledore's attitude to the Slytherins in Harry's year in the books.

But remember Tom Riddle? I got the inkling from 'Half-Blood Prince' that Voldemort's gang was simply much, much cleverer than Malfoy's, and that the only reason none of them were expelled was because Voldemort was able to frame Hagrid for the opening of the Chamber of Secrets, and if he could do THAT, PLAUSIBLY (Hagrid loved monsters even though Riddle was one of the most Slytheriny students in history) enough to sway a majority of the school governors so that Dumbledore's SUSPICIONS were not enough PROOF, then he could really get away with anything and Dumbledore would be powerless to stop him. Not even the headmaster yet after all.

But Tom really was dangerous, the Basilisk KILLED Myrtle, and I'm sure other students got particularly nasty harm enacted on them, perhaps more pet-torturing like from the orphan house. But Dumbledore would have done all he could against Tom.


Cut forward 50 years. Malfoy is a punk. An annoying one, but not particularly dangerous. Sum of Malfoy's sins in first three years:

1) Traditional school Quidditch Team rivalries were the worst. Dumbledore had no problems with Harry casting a Patronus at Malfoy in Third Year, even though wands probably aren't allowed on the Quidditch pitch except for the ref. (Hooch)

2) In the hallways, incidents between students were partially common because it was the younger students that were more likely to, AND the younger students that really couldn't do much to hurt each other. Like what Ron said about 'the Midnight Duel' in Book 1.

3) Malfoy probably should have got a detention for calling Hermione 'mudblood' second year, that was a pretty high infraction of decency, but that's rather a lot less damage than what Voldemort or even the Marauders got up to at school.

4) Malfoy was Dark, no question, but more of a nuisance than a social justice problem. The students were capable of dealing with things on their own, needed to learn that skill anyway, and it wasn't til the return of Voldemort that anything really awful happened to non-Harry students on account of Slytherins.


cut back 30-ish years

And now we get to the only part where Dumbledore in the books is possibly almost similar to this fic-

The Marauders. Oh dear the Marauders. I rank them as far less dangerous than Voldemort, but...probably a good bit worse than Malfoy, at least when it came to Slytherins. I hope they didn't hurt the Puffs too much, and Ravenclaws and Gryffindors probably just saw them as a Challenging Hazard of the school, like the staircases and Peeves. Annoying, maybe even bad, but not something to call in the Headmaster over.

The problem is they were too funny for their own good. James and Sirius taught Fred and George everything they knew, just by the greeting on the Marauder's Map, and it's undoubted influence in Fred and George's extra daringness. Did they ever try to talk to Mssrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs? ala not-quite-a-painting, not-Riddle's-Diary...but it was a thing with a magical brain! so...yeah.

Anyway, James and Sirius were, I think, just barely restrained enough against non-Slytherins to keep from being chucked out, because their special attention to Slytherins made them more popular than they should have been even to people they'd gotten before. Also, that was a time when everyone in Hogwarts was either a junior Death Eater, a junior Order Member, a junior Ministry Official, or a junior "Aberforth's staying OUT of this one!"

Did they go too far with Snape...umm, yeah. Was Snape not helping his own case, every step of the way? umm, yeah.

Were the Gryffindors and Slytherins of those years possibly the worst infractors ever under the school's roof, because of the Voldemort War reaching the kids? Probably. Were James and Sirius the best at it, and because they were on the 'good' side, they got too much carte blanche? Well, Snape shows Harry whole drawers filled with the detentions the Marauders had gotten...

So what does all this mean about Dumbledore's REAL, canon-stance on bullying?

Rule #1: Voldemort really sucks. God I hate Voldemort. He makes everything more difficult and the world a worse place than it should be. He was uncatchable at school, and responsible, if not directly for Marauder-Era bullying and counter-bullying, then at least almost certainly he was responsible for the escalation. The Bullying Arms Race. Marauder Era Hogwarts alums were all choosing sides and getting ready to join their respective armies, and the hallways reflected that, and there wasn't a whole heck of a lot Dumbledore could really do because the problem was honestly bigger than just James v. Snape over Lily Evans. That just happened to be the part that was most important for Harry to see and understand, so it's what we saw in the books. But it's far from the last word on the subject.

I feel really strongly that Dumbledore would have done everything he could have, but that what he could just wasn't much, because Voldemort KNEW Dumbledore's rules, and was good at manipulating things so that Dumbledore never had a good choice- he made it a game of Lesser four or five or six different Really Bad Things that could happen.

I hold out the hope that if it hadn't been for the Voldemort War on the outside, James, Sirius, Lupin, and Peter would have been in generally less trouble, only perhaps a little bit more brilliant versions of Fred and George.
Raver Styx chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I think nobody mentioned Warahammer Chaos gods in CH 74





Is this the missing reference?
AngelForm chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Swurt chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I'm glad you've started writing again.

The story's pace is starting to slow a bit less than I desire. The self actualization arc was literally 11 chapters long (probably 10 or even 20k words) and might not even be done? I mean, it was good. And too slow is better than too fast.

I'm simply afraid the story is going to drag into asymptotic oblivion; IE: not much happens - nothing happens - you get bored - story never gets finished.

Don't be afraid to move your chess pieces you've set out for yourself, bro. Eternally building up is the land of the soap opera, and I'd like for shit to go down now you've done a lot of building up.

I look forward to your next chapters,

LoliPear the WaltzQueen chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Well, this is an interesting side quest
Dinner chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Awesome chapter, i love riddles!

Im kind of grossed out by Snape..

I will eagerly await the next chapter
uo-chou chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
No wonder Snape is such a greasy ass, he's not getting anything. Keep up the good work!
lichens chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I can relate with Rianne so much, I love the sidestory of a student crushing on a teacher, especially with someone like Snape. I'm betting tons of hogwarts students had some sort of fantasy involving Snape...or even Remus. Sooooo how many times has Snape kissed Rianne?
arkleseizure chapter 77 . 9/7/2011

On the other hand, I vastly appreciate the insight into Snape's mind. It gives me much more information to work with.

Two chapters ago, I made the effort to actually apply Bayes' Theorem to what evidence I considered available, to my best estimated confidence in various facts. It paid off, and I got several things right.

I appreciate the data.
AiSard chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
so saaaad. and awesome to read~ that said loved how Snape tries to work out the prophecy with the girl. I've seen people do Dumbles wracking his mind for the answer before but none done as well as here and with Snape of all people p
AlpineBob chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
The interesting thing is that after reading this chapter I am just as in the dark as I was before, regarding the identity of the Hermione's mysterious not-stranger. Although, given the obfuscation of Snape's motives here, and the revelation of his involvement in the process of both bully procurement & SPHEW baiting, it seems more likely now that he might still be stirring the pot, as it were. So the balance of my suspicion has shifted slightly towards him from Quirrell.

I await the next chapter with great interest, as I am _greatly_ curious as to how, or if, Hermione describes the encounter to Harry.
Coby chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Nawh, that was quite sad. I'm hoping that, since she won't remember, she will still strive for a kiss... And that's so typically Snape.
loonyphoenix chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Wow. This is really, really cool and explains a lot of things. This fic is so great; I keep expecting it to get worse, or otherwise become disappointing in one way or another, as so many good stories turn out to be eventually for some odd reason. But not this one; it just keeps getting better and better. Maybe because you're doing it for fun only? Probably the desire to earn money from art such as writing interesting, thoughtful, insightful stories corrupts in time more often than not? I don't know. But I pray that this story stays on the path of becoming one of the greatest stories ever told.

That was a stream of consciousness on my part; sorry if it was a little disjointed and rambling :)
badkidoh chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Well this was good & different.
KatheeHDS chapter 77 . 9/7/2011

(Just had to leave some senseless review)

I'll read all the story again bofore the next chapter, to have it all fresh once again in my mind...

I hope there won't be any delays in your posting, and, if they are, they won't be by some unexpected and unwanted situation!

Thank you for this story, I love stories that make me think, and yours usually implies spending time googleing some concepts .

Thank you for giving us the chance to learn new things!
PersianPianist chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
it just occurred to me...

Harry aspires to leave earth one day and live somewhere else, possibly another galaxy. Quirremort has the same dream.

Harry has a choice according to Snape.

And according to the prophecy...Harry and Voldy in the same cauldron equals cauldron exploding.

so maybe, one of them is simply going to leave earth...

Is that possible?
sappy3 chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Good chapter. Nice to see Snape again. The reflections about the Obliviation spell are very true. I always considered Hermione's use of it on her parents truly despicable, much worse than say, rape.

About the whole Mysterious Black Hat controversy I wanted to add that (I'm not sure what this logical fallacy is called) I doubt the Mysterious Black Hat that talks with Zabini is the same person as the Mysterious Black Hat Hermione meets.

Just because they're similar doesn't mean they're the same person. Snape is most likely the person Zabini meets while the person Hermione meets is Quirrel. His behavior and knowledge and insinuations fits him to a Tee. Remembering that he just observed Snape hiding behind Obliviations and saw how influential Hermione is on Harry its not hard to figure out that he decided to use the same methods to gauge and maybe influence Hermione in a similar way.
Lord of Murder chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Wow I feel really sad for her now. That was pretty damn moving.
Fenrir666 chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Poor Severus...
Pathatlon chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
This was reaaaaally... odd... But I kinda liked it!1
Gnasher chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
This kinda creeped me out. But hey, Snape is a pretty creepy guy so it's not that different . . . . . um . . . yeah.
shhIwasn'there chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Rianne Felthorne seems to be the only person in this entire story that I can identify with.

wow a chapter with no Harry in it. that was a much awaited break, no rationality here. just human confusion.

I was reading William James' 'The Will to Believe' last night, and every other paragraph I kept wondering what would your Harry think about it all. He has sorta become my role model. it just makes me feel pathetic that he is just 11 and knows so much more than me. I really hope there are no children like that around in the real world.
Simplex chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Looking forward to the next chapter, hopefully a week from now with any luck.

Mikko - Pleasant coincidence, i recently finished reading a pile of Egan books, at the (somewhat indirect) recommendation of Yudkowsky. ( - The author is mentioned somewhere in there, and i really do recommend his books for everyone who doesn't mind a bit of good sci-fi).

It was rather touching to see Snape not having to worry about his image, and being more 'himself', however much of a meaning that concept would have to an accomplished legilimens.

I was also rather disturbed when i realised what was happening to poor Hermione (the sense of fatigue in her fingers was what gave it away for me), one can only hope she's observant enough to notice the disparity between her memories and her aching muscles.
dayum chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
that was some poignant sh*t

loved that scene
Mikko Rauhala chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
Okay, so I couldn't help but be disappointed in the shortness. That was, until I read it. At which point, well. Awwwww. Snape with the shields down. Wonderful.

Also, nice to touch upon Obliviation's nature as a local death (for the benefit of other readers, term from Greg Egan for losing a part of your continuity, generally mitigated by having a backup).

To continue on Chapter 76, uhh. Yeah, I did see the Groundhog attack for what it was, and figured that we're not seeing all the rounds, but. I'm not sure if you added the stuff about Hermie being assaulted at least for hours after I read it first time to clarify it, or if I merely missed it altogether the first time I read it (classifying the rather strong hints as mood-creating aura effects of Mr. Hat and then forgetting about them). But yeah, the extent just makes the already rather creepy attack that much creepier.

Mr. Hat being Quirrel would be the obvious choice, so I doubt it's that simple. He doesn't seem to be quite so cunning either. Still possible, though.

I've earlier speculated about Quirrel actually being a personality amalgam of Quirrel and Voldemort, merged on a deeper level than in canon. I'll elaborate: Mr. Hat is pure Voldemort (Hermie would probably recognize him from having seen pictures), roaming separated from Quirrel. The process by which they merged leaves Quirrel a bit ... drooly when there's only him around (possibly as side effect also at other times to conserve strength).

And to retouch on my pet redemption theory, Voldie by himself isn't redeemable, but the Quirrelmort amalgam is. Just add more binding.

'course, I've been rather wrong before, and this is somewhat spesific as speculation goes, so I'm not overly confident on this. (I _feel_ confident about it, but much of that is recognizable as pro-redemption bias, so, meh.)
ByLanternLight chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
I think I might cry a bit, now.

Poor Snape, trying in his own way to be a hero and save Slytherin from itself.
J chapter 77 . 9/7/2011
"But why is Hermione not in this chapter?"

Building suspense!
Math and Chaos chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Okay. That resolved part of the bullies plot I'd been guessing at for a while.

But why is Hermione not in this chapter?

I'm worried about her, dammit. I think I understand the ellipses now, and am consequently really disturbed.

Ah well. Next week, hopefully.
bakapervert chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Thanks for the update.
Mavarax chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
So Harry, Draco, Dumbles, SQuirrel, Snape, M.I.S.P and possibly Hermione are all plotting. Hogwarts is going to blow up in a few weeks now I think.
KickAir 8P chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Retcon, obliviation, whatever-you-call-it - it's a particularly nasty form of death.

Is Snape's enunciation of the prophecy supposed to sound German? If so, that'd be a clue . . .
VFR6 chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Hmm, I know I'm not the only one who notice this Fridge Logic, but Snape is still a virgin? Lol!
timunderwood9 chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I really need to read things more closely. Or more specifically I need to notice when I'm confused and pause to figure it out. On the other hand generally in fiction my attitude is sort of like, I'll figure it out eventually and I'm not reading for the puzzle, but the jokes, or fluff or whatever.

On the other hand after I was told there was a puzzle there to be solved, it was both obvious and fun. Obliviation.

Seriously though I feel a need at some point soon to reread through the whole Self Actualization sequence, and try to carefully think about the ideas embedded here. Its fun if nothing else as a trigger for my own thinking, for example trying to get what it is like to be Dumbledore in the previous chapter.
saintjimmy84 chapter 77 . 9/6/2011

I wanted to thank you for writing this story. It bounces back and forth between extremes - sometimes hilarious and other times heartbreaking, sometimes suspenseful and other times serene. Sometimes it weighs heavy on the mind for days afterwards (like, for example, the discussion of the lonely hero in the last few chapters) and other times it's a brilliant way to sit down and escape from the vexing troubles of the day. No matter what extreme it's at, though, it's a joy to read in the way that all the best stories are.

One thing you do that I haven't seen in any (and this is not exaggeration in the slightest) other FanFiction since I started browsing in 2002 is you present an honest, true clash of ideals.

Every other fanfic I've read, even the best, has either had a sort of muted, cookie cutter approach to their ideological clashes or has avoided them altogether. Many fall into the straw man fallacy, building up the ideals of one character by turning their opponents into crude caricatures of what they should be. Some elaborate brilliantly on one central theme but without any sort of disagreement or conflict between the characters.

You've taken several characters in this story (Malfoy, Harry, Dumbledore and Quirrel, to name just a few) and woven real, honest thought into the words that compose them. Their ideals are real and human and persuasive and deeply felt, and I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with them, alternately cheering them on in their moments of glory and cursing them when they're being petty. It's almost like interacting with a real human being (and in a sense it is real, since it's just the readers interacting with you, the author.) You paint them with both virtues and flaws, and with enough grace that oftentimes it's difficult to tell the two apart and the reader is forced to choose for themselves who is right instead of being spoon-fed the author's philosophy.

I don't mean to gush too much - I'm walking a fine line here between an honest review and simple, empty flattery. I'm not sure if you've written fiction before but it seems to me that you have a wealth of experience under your belt when it comes to speaking truths, and that's perhaps the mark of the best fiction-that the author spins an imaginary world to share their truths, and the truths shared lend the imaginary world substance and weight until the readers have trouble splitting the author's world and their own apart. I know that I carry a bit of your characters with me when I leave the computer. Thanks for the good read.

Other chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Awww poor woobie.
Remoara chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
"she didn't know why looking at the ruby made her feel so sad, like she'd forgotten something, something that had been precious to her"

That bit is actually really interesting, when you think about it meta-contextually.

The story we WANT to tell ourselves, as humans, is that if we could be magically made to forget something important to us, there'd be at least SOME sort of tiny, equally magic sense of loss left behind.

That's why the original author (whatever her name was - no I'm kidding! :P) wrote the rules of magic like that.

That's why Eliezer kept them that way, AND why in the context of HPMOR the Atlanteans originally DESIGNED magic that way.

And it's just interesting that yes, we'd prefer to feel a little pain of loss of something precious than TRULY lose it completely.

...Which, in abstract form, is the same reason Snape let Lily mess him up so much!

Eliezer, did you think this ALL out beforehand?
braindoll chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Great chapter. Poor title. Rianne's sunk costs? Nothing much, except for timidity. So you seem to be suggesting that if Snape were smarter, he'd simply become an entirely different person with totally different goals. That's really not anything like not folding a hand of poker when you should, in my book. Sunk costs can be such a powerful factor in human behavior, and make good drama. For instance, if Obama is a tragic figure, then to me this is his tragic flaw. (He showed in the campaign that he's capable of audacity, creativity, and insight, but now it seems he just will not re-evaluate whether his bipartisan methods are the best.) So despite an excellent chapter, I still feel a little let down by your using up this rich chapter theme without exploring it more satisfyingly.
Rob the Cauliflowerian chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
In which Severus Snape takes surprising strides towards becoming the third acting character in this novel.


Draco Malfoy continues taking baby steps towards the same goal, albeit in Harry-Potter-predefined ways.

Hermione Granger has several interesting things happen to her, while remaining firmly ensconced in NPC green.

Albus Dumbledore remains in stasis pending the shocking revelation that he is, in fact, the Grand Wizard Friedrich Neitzsche.
lordnott chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Just to let you know, the ending made me want to vomit. Good story though, I'm so happy to be moving on from Self Actualization, it's just been droning on and on.
Work Designer chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
This was touching. Real 3 dimensional people. Nothing more to add.
luosha chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
blah blah blah - WHOA SNAPE - hell yeah :)
PrincessVamp chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Oh. Whoa. Odd.
109 chapter 77 . 9/6/2011

Squeeeeeeeee! 3 3 3
Fresh C chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Ah well... I read chapter 76 and I still don't think I would have realized what was happening if not for having read the reviews. But I'm always that way when someone writes/says something clever, I either get it right away, or I tend to go with surface impressions. (I'm sure the whole process is officially defined by some logical fallacy or another). In any case, I recognize what you were trying to do, and I'm sure some people got a kick out of it when they realized it. It wouldn't be clever if everyone got it all the time. (but it sucks to be on the "slower end" of things).

As far as this chapter goes. I really enjoyed the mood you set here. I felt bad for Rianne and worse for Snape. Because he's basically realized that his whole life has been one pitiful existence which he can think of no way to remedy.


I don't know if I'm reading into this incorrectly (Yet again) but it seems as if you dropped a big bomb on us in this chapter. It looks as if you're stating that the prophecy didn't actually concern Voldemort and instead concerns Snape. And I think there's some good reasoning for believing that as well, since you stated earlier (I think) that a prophecy has special meaning to the person who hears it, as it is born into the world with the intent of leading that person to cause great events as a result of hearing it.

However, even if that statement is fact, it doesn't necessarily mean that Snape is one of the poeple being mentioned by the prophecy. Because even if he's not the Dark Lord in question, he IS the person who set the events in motion by telling Voldemort that the prophecy existed at all. So indirectly he IS the reason that prophecy was/will be fulfilled.

But whether Snape is right in believe that the prophecy is about him or not, the fact of the matter remains that he does think it's about himself. It should be very interesting to see how he behaves, given his new perspective on life.

If Snape is the one the prophecy is refering to, I wonder if you can make him seem even almost as badass as Quirell is now. (Though you don't have to be terribly badass to take on an 11-17 year old child...)
Guest chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I don't understand the hate that this arc has been getting. I thought Hermione's maturation into someone who doesn't necessarily follow the rules was well-written and quite intriguing. The best part, though, was this final chapter with Snape. Touching, delicate, sad. Great writing.
what are you even saying chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I find it amusing that with all of the interesting points of this chapter, the thing I'm stuck on is my disgust that someone (aside from perhaps Dumbledore) finds Snape genuinely appealing. I guess they wouldn't call them blind spots if you could find your way around them easily. Then again, I'm not sure I want to try. I'm comfortable in my hatred of that particular fictional character.

Still, a good chapter that provides important insight into a character roughly half of your readers would want killed painfully, with the other half are evenly divided between wanting him paired with Harry and with Hermione, respectively. Gross.
William H. Stoddard chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
To my personal sensibilities, Chapter 77 is a first-rate one, the best you've written in some time. The previous chapters have had a number of dramatic surprises, and several laugh-out-louds, and even moving short passages; but this entire chapter is moving. The "unreliable narrator" treatment of Rianne is extremely well handled, and her series of emotional reactions makes sense throughout. And it's interesting to see Severus coming back to seek a second opinion on what Harry told him about his relationship with Lily, many chapters back. This whole chapter gives us more insight into Severus, and in contrast to a lot of your characters, this Severus really seems very close to the original, and sheds light on him directly.

I'm not sure about the title of the chapter, though, unless it's meant ironically: It seems to me that Severus is precisely NOT able to treat his past experiences as sunk costs. He's still focused on his wretched adolescence, on his hopeless love for Lily, on his guilt over giving her away, and on his complex feelings about Harry, to the point that he's never really developed into a human being, as that kiss makes all too evident. This Severus seems like someone whose death in a later episode might come as a welcome release.
annon chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Oh this is good, I mean I know its alternate universe, but it captures Cannon Snape's character quite well. With the Minor exception that Cannon Snape is actually good at Riddles! In Philosophers stone, while all the other teachers are doing complex magic, etc to protect the stone, Snape's challenge is a Riddle! because he says, and I'm paraphrasing "Most wizards are idiots, and know nothing of logic"
teapotsaucer chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Oh Severus Snape - a miserable, damned creature as you are... and those dark hidden depths to his dark complex exterior are sooooo attractive to any girl with a heart for romance. So flawed, so lovely in all his imperfection. I'd jump him, if he wouldn't kill me. Love the kiss.
derp chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Didn't expect you to actually do it :o
Rosa Mundi chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I love this. Beyond that, nothing to say.
Selina Novella chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Awww... Sev, you continue to confound and draw us in. Gotta love Rianne saying so plainly that being in love with a girl from 30 years ago is pathetic. Totally pathetic in fact. Poor Sev, you're so emo. lol
MrRobertsIII chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
a bit creepy but fun to read! Hopefully Snape will get a clue.
FanBoySalami chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Your story keeps surprising me: this chapter lets me clearly see my darkest secrets, weaknesses and hopes like a "lumos" cast at night in a treasure vault. Thank you!

I make excuses why I don't want what I want, because I am afraid: I tell myself I am not successful enough yet, don't need the distractions, and want to be a better person, when in reality I choose to be pathetic. In short, I could easily become Snape, and I am grateful for your story.

No complaints about the writing, plot, etc. either.
Crzyncl chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Snape, even if it was just your attempt at being nice, that still counts as pedophilia.
Rhydian chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Frankly, I'm happy to see that arc over. HPMOR used to be wickedly funny and smart, and that arc was just overwrought and over-thought. And the arc didn't even move the story forward to any interesting degree; your version on Angst-y!Hermoine was more painful than canon's Angst-y!Harry. The Angst-y!Snape in this chapter is shorter, better and vastly more interesting than the entirety of that last arc, and it actually ties into the larger plot.

I hope that events pick up again and that the writing becomes easier because we've been stuck in neutral for a while now. For me, the train started going off the tracks about the time we lost touch with JKR's world.

Despite the negativity, I do hope you continue and, please, bring the fun and cleverness back.
Querrynithen chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Poor Snapeypoo! (this is totally a well rounded critique...)
josh148513 chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Gilliweed chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I really like your story, and you're obviously a very smart person and it shows in your writing, which is also an enjoyable treat as extras go. But, we're already closing in on the HALF A MILLION WORDS mark... and we can't even glance at a hint of the end of the FIRST year! In the words of Microsoft's publicists for the Windows Phone 7 campaign... Really? I mean, seriously, is this an effort at attempting the longest fanfiction story ever? Extrapolation of the story length so far would indicate that we're looking at over 4.2 million words total for the seven years, and that's only assuming you manage to limit year one to "just" 700 thousand words or thereabouts.

Please don't get me wrong, I will read EVERY SINGLE ONE of however many words you manage to end up gifting us with, my respect for the time you've already invested in this just for our enjoyment would allow nothing less, but... at the same time, if it's not too style crippling for you in the end, would you think it possible to maybe move the story timeframe just a tiny bit faster?

Finally, I'd like to end this with a sincere THANK YOU SO MUCH, for your gift of words to us all so far as well as your dedication to the provision of our collective entertainment. It has been tremendously enjoyable to date, and I have no doubt that it will continue to be so for quite some more time yet :)
w chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Nice that Snape is getting real about Dumbledore. Nice part also about considering what Oblivation means; I'd think you get a bit more into it (why different from falling asleep/dying etc.). And I do hope you'll redeem Snape better than the canon, which should not be difficult given how JKR botched him.
Eli Courtwright chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
This is a fascinating view of Snape. Chapter 27 has Harry calling Lily shallow, perhaps causing Snape to see her in that light, possibly for the first time. And now he hears his lifelong love for Lily called out as being creepy, which he might even come to feel is true. But he doesn't just decide to sabotage Dumbledore or anything so drastic (at least not yet), it's currently just making him reflective. Which is fascinating.

Great chapter, as always. I look forward to seeing what comes next, and what comes of Snape's self-reflection.
EeriexVerra chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
It's pretty cool to finally start getting to the bottom of all these mysteries! And it was awfully nice of Severus to give Rianne the kiss she had hoped for, even if she did forget about it a moment later. Awesome!
Peregrinate chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Aww. Life is tragic, isn't it?
anon chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Sad and yet it made me smile. :)
deitarionSSokolow chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
The conversation on the true meaning of the prophecy is so beautifully long-overdue and reminds me that, for a story like this, any kind of vanquishing of Quirrelmort would be a disappointment, so one must look to subvert the meaning of another word in the prophecy... like having the power to do so, but not using it.

It finally clicks. I now await Quirrelmort's development as a character just as much as Harry's and Draco's and Snape begins to truly gain my interest.

For Harry, I've been awaiting and loving new developments since the veiled meaning of Harry's Patronus compounded what was already being said about his character and view on things but, on some level, I think I've been hoping for something like this to happen to Quirrelmort, since, even with Harry and Draco being fascinating, Harry feels like he's on a completely different level as a character... a level which Quirrelmort has been foreshadowed to be on since the protections on his Horcruxes were hinted at and space showed that his thoughts weren't as small and blind as canon Voldemort's.
JoshuaZ chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Oh wow. Just wow.

So Snape really was struck by Harry's observation and does seem to be acting for himself now and no one else. But what he intends to accomplish is absolutely unclear.

And the possibility that Voldemort and Harry being in the same world will result in its destruction is really disturbing.

We already have reason to think that this fic may end badly. The primary point of departure was how Lilly treated Petunia. But according to Petunia, one of the reasons Lilly didn't want to give Petunia the potion was that a centaur told her something bad might happen. Later we find out from Hermione that some people say that centaurs are afraid of Harry. In canon the centaurs are some of the most trustworthy of prophets.

This seems to all point towards the centaurs being worried that Harry v. Voldemort could destroy the world. This is bad.

On the edge of my seat waiting for the next update.
Non-Existent ONion chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
That girl is kinda creepy.
Count Napula chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
That was beautiful.
matt chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I just have to say, those last few paragraphs were beautifully done.
randomsample chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
It would be terrifying to suddenly and knowingly loose memories like that.
DarkRavie chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Another very good chapter. I look forward to reading what happens next in your fic.
Euphemism chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Huh. I'd thought that Snape's intentions were to help Hermione, but I still don't see why he threatened her, assigned detentions, and took off points... Unless he's Xanatos enough to know that Harry would be able to reverse all that and did it mostly to shield Hermione from the fallout. That's possible too, I guess.

And assuming the change to 76 is in the last scene (I do recall interpreting it as Hermione turns around and sees a second figure - the lady), my reaction is the same.


Wanderer Chronicles chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
Damn. Just... damn.

Keep it up, the last couple of chapters have been popping.
MariusDarkwolf chapter 77 . 9/6/2011
I have to say this is a first. You've actually made me pity a Snape that is nearly canon in attitude