|Reviews for A New Frontier|
| Guest chapter 3 . 5/26
Surely the SGC would have shared some of their own technology (i.e. Asgard hyperdrives) to further improve on Starfleet's designs (not to mention that naquadah and trinium probably make for at least as strong, if not stronger, construction materials).
| Guest chapter 6 . 5/9
Actually, while I agree SG1 tech (Asgard, Goa'uld, other) is likely nerfed, frankly so is Trek technology.
Federation sciences are engineered around extreme levels of subspace and multiphase technologies. Stargate technology... is not. Most of Stargate technology is high-energy plasma, disintegration, or atomic forces. Or 'real-world' physics.
So, we're dealing with two radically different technologies.
In Trek, it's about the exotic effects on what does damage. The subspace tearing that bypass real physics to take out real materials. It's why they have subspace effects in their shields, and NIF (subspace re-enforcement) to their hulls, and subspace (nadion) in their weapons, or in the klingons/romulans, a different method of subspace in their plasma/disruptor weapons. It's all about the exotic effect.
Stargate is all about the brute force. They have an insane amount of kick to their weapons, but it's still real world physics.
So you in effect have brute force vs exotic effects.
The SG1 universe isn't aware of subspace in how Trek uses it, so by science, a lot of their weapons should literally bypass the shielding. The trek shields are geared toward deflection, and the literal kenetic bleed through would shake the ships and likely knock them off course from the sheer power of the weapons, but still not pierce the shields.
Example: Species 8472. 9 ships joined their power to destroy (ala death star) a planet.
1 of these ships fired a beam at Voyager, a small scout class ship, and its shields deflected the energy without dropping or damage to the ship. Granted, it blew it off course, and dropped the shield power, but it still withstood that level of power.
And the Soverign is a multiple above the Voyager in terms of power and defenses.
So in comparison, it's not unrealistic to assume the Soverign class can withstand 10 times the damage the Voyager could. The fact that equals the power to destroy a planet that the Soverign could withstand at least a single hit from, should put them into a class that would fairly nicely match an Asgard battleship.
I think the SG1 vessels have greater shield RESISTANCE power vs real world physics. Raw damage.
I think the Trek vessels have greater shield DEFLECTION power vs real world physics. Raw damage.
The Asgard however are insanely smart, and likely already know -of- subspace even if they are not familar with the methods of how Federation science uses it. So after a few interactions on how they use the weapons and shields, they'll likely go 'ahh, how interesting' then adapt their own weapons and shields for these properties if they find it gives them a boost, and at the very least make their defenses adapt to them so they're no longer vulnerable.
Likewise, Trek will see all the high energy/kenetic weapons and adapt accordingly. Like their metaphasic shields that allowed them unlimited time in a star's corona? Yea, that'd work great against the majority of SG1 weapons which are high-energy/plasma based.
Both universes have amazing sciences and both of them can learn a lot from each other. Nerfing aside, they should be relatively equal in power (Asgard vs Federation). Some better, some worse.
If the Feds had access to transwarp and/or slipstream, even their drive speeds would be somewhat comparable, though Asgard would still win. Their hyperdrive is just insanely fast.
Weapons and shields I think the Fed win. More adaptive, able to change frequencies and energy profiles to adapt through weapons and armor materials for maximum damage.
Transporters are more or less the same. Bonuses to either depending on the needs.
Building materials are about the same, just totally different sciences behind it.
Overall sciences are comparable. Both can replicate something from nothing. Both have advanced understanding of nanotech. Both have advanced understanding of temporal and dimensional sciences.
The Asgard likely can gain from the Feds on their genetic sciences and likely help find a cure to their cloning issues. The Feds can gain some understanding on hyperspace physics. The Asgard can learn more on subspace technology, which may even allow them to keep shields up while in hyperspace, and the Feds can learn more on zero point energy as reactors from the Asgard, while they learn ways to weaponize it from the Federation.
Amazing potential of cross-learning here. Nerf or no nerf, both sides have no room to point and make fun of the other. Far too much knowledge to be shared.
| Guest chapter 6 . 8/14/2014
can u please update its a good story
| sudoapt chapter 1 . 8/3/2014
It's a noble effort writing a crossover while trying to bridge two different universes with fundamentally different technologies, but you have massively nerfed stargate tech in this story...
A standard gou'ald ha'tak vessel is an even match for the enterprise in terms of technology (shields and weapons). It would take a thousand Enterprise-E ships over a year of constant bombardment against a single O'neill asgaard ship to even scratch its shields (at full strength, O'neill ship is unscaleable compared against star trek ships, for all we know it could take 100,000 ships to even scratch the o'neill ship). Those enterprises will run out of dilithium within weeks of constant fire on a ship like that.
I know this story hasn't been updated in awhile, but I post this for those like-minded people who have yet to read this story to give them an idea that comparing star trek technology to stargate tech is like trying to compare a Federation attack fighter to a Elite Borg Cube...(David vs Goliath) as an example. Stargate tech absolutely stomps star trek in everyway except for FTL tech (which is considered antiquated and outdated by stargate universe standard) and even that won't surpass the speed of SG Destiny's FTL or the auror class ancient ship powered by a zpm traversing between pegasus galaxy and milky way galaxy using FTL alone. Destiny is millions of years old and has traveled past 10,000 galaxies and further on FTL! I hate it when they nerf stargate tech like this...its like pittying Mr Satan against Broly (dragonball z).
| Brian1972 chapter 4 . 8/1/2014
Warp 9 is more like 834 times lightspeed (at leas acording to the canon Warpscala), otherwise they would need ages upon ages to travel any distance. And the Defiant Class has not only advantages. Esspecially it can't go past Warp 9 without difficulties and it can't sustain higher Warpspeeds for as long time periods as other Federation vesels (problems with the power grid). And acording to how Warp technologie functions the ship mass is irrelevant for the acceleration since the configuration of the Warp-blase is the real important thing.
Many people who watched DS9 tend to paint the Defaint Class as vastly superior. That ignores that in the same series and in first contact other Federation vesels show that they are on par if not superior to it. Being small has advantages for the Defiant but also drawbacks (as much as it uses less power it also will generate less power).
Well apart from that a nice and funny x-over.
| Cygnus80 chapter 6 . 5/23/2014
Fantastic story so far I hope to see more in the future
| Nightlance44 chapter 6 . 3/27/2014
that was great. I like what you did with the training simulator. Make it so that the Asgard ask for the enterprise's tech, in jack O'neil's presence. oh and that they stay in the stargate world
| highlander348 chapter 6 . 3/3/2014
Is this story dead?
| Guest chapter 6 . 1/9/2014
Please finish! What was the amazing thing Data and Geordi were building? How do they get back?
| Acrylate chapter 6 . 11/5/2013
Love your story. Love that Luc Picard willing to disobey Prime Directive for greater good. Cannot wait to see the next chapter. Thank you
| ithros falasson chapter 6 . 10/1/2013
Love it, really hope for more to come. Please continue it. Will the sgc's new defiant class dhips be warp or hyperspace?
| Guest chapter 6 . 8/13/2013
are you ever going to finish this
| Guest chapter 6 . 8/3/2013
well when are you upgrading this story then?
| Amonits chapter 2 . 7/24/2013
Well I doubt that the Enterprise would be able to study and decifer the Stargate, not even the Tollans were able to do something like that, only the Nox and Asgard know how the stargate works :P
| DMacX chapter 2 . 6/14/2013
You have *massively* crippled stargate tech.