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otherrealmwriter

I figured I would make a topic where we suggest things FFN would be better with

What about a new guy than the fanatic level. Some of us have been here for years.

6/30/2012 #1
Zokolov

I thought that, too. Not that being on this site longer makes us any more special, but two years isn't exactly a long time. Now what else...

A way to search stories by review count. Doesn't mean we'd get higher quality fics, of course, but still.

Filters for content.

Also, possibly a thumbs up/thumbs down feature or a rating system or something similar? This would probably be abused, though.

Allow us to put hyperlinks to other websites than FFN, Fictionpress or YouTube... and preferably allow us to add links to our stories without having to put spaces.

Allow us to add pictures apart from the cover, maybe? Well, okay, this would be a technical nightmare and would be even more easily abused, so a definite no-no on that. We'd just get shock images and stuff.

And lastly, while this isn't possible yet, an automatic filter that refuses to publish horrible fanfics. I guess even something like that could be implemented, though... it's not just science fiction.

6/30/2012 #2
The Sleeping Tide

a thumbs up/thumbs down feature would be abused. People would be negging fics left and right just because it contains a pairing they don't like or it has an OC or any number or reasons

FF.net owners prob won't allow hyperlinks because it draws attention away from their site and many would use it as an excuse to spam

A return of NC-17. It would be a simple as using a warning and an e-signiture like AFF does

As much as adding pics could be a good idea far too many people would use it as an excuse to post porn and inappropriate pics

Would love to see a better filter

6/30/2012 #3
KageNoNeko

I think a thumbs up/down button on reviews would be good, but still I think there is too many people around here who would abuse the crap out of it.

Maybe they should give authors the chance to rate signed reviews as being good or bad. Maybe we will get quality reviews outside.

A filter that would remove fanfics that said "I'm bad at summaries" from the list. Hmmm...a filter could make the crap easier to avoid.

6/30/2012 #4
s class wizard

1. A troll fic genre.

2. An OC option for every fandom so that I won't have to encounter shitty CanonxOC fics.

3. A rating system for fics and reviews.

4. Being able to remove signed reviews.

5. The MA rating back onto FF.Net. They should be accessed to only those with an account and each user has to put his/her birthdate in order to be the proper age to see 18 plus material like they do on dA.

6. The ability to use icons and have signatures like dA. It can help express yourself.

7. jo bel and her racist family get their fuckin' asses banned permanently. Same goes to the hacker posing as jo bel.

8. Allow MST/Commentaries on here. They aren't necessarily bullying contrary to popular belief.

6/30/2012 #5
otherrealmwriter

4. Being able to remove signed reviews.

Or at least hide the comments.

I would honestly want to see the admin crack down on real person fics and trolls rather than MA fics. To keep those all you have to do is make them accessable to those with an account and set their birthdate in their so 18 and above are the only ones reading them.

6/30/2012 #6
XxxCathylovexxX

I pretty much want all the same as Suzy. Also, what I want is something like a slash petition filter. I mean, I'm not trying to be homophobic here or anything but there is more slash on here than het. It's almost impossible to find a good het fic when I want to read one. And yeah, I think you should be able to remove signed reviews. That should be your right as the owner of the story.

6/30/2012 #7
KageNoNeko

I would honestly want to see the admin crack down on real person fics and trolls rather than MA fics. To keep those all you have to do is make them accessable to those with an account and set their birthdate in their so 18 and above are the only ones reading them.

This is what I what I would agree with. Some of the people who write real person fics are really idiotic.

6/30/2012 #8
2People

I think a security question to log into an account would be a good idea. I mean i know we have to enter a password to get into out accounts but people's accounts are getting hacked into and i think it would be a good idea to have security questions like "first pets name" and "mothers maden name" and stuff.

6/30/2012 #9
The Sleeping Tide

A troll fic genre.

Really do not need this. Far to many would abuse it to put up fics that break the rules and put up offensive fics

4. Being able to remove signed reviews.

Would be nice but people who leave signed reviews will throw a fit on how unfair it is to have their reviews removed even if they are offensive or abusive

Allow MST/Commentaries on here

Hell no. MST are often offensive and down right abusive and you are pretty much ripping off some one else's fic and nit picking it apart for your own amusement. Many writers hate MSTs and for a good reason. It would open the door to far too much abuse

I would honestly want to see the admin crack down on real person fics and trolls rather than MA fics. To keep those all you have to do is make them accessible to those with an account and set their birthdate in their so 18 and above are the only ones reading

I agree with this. I want to see them crack down on troll fics and real life person fics and leave the MA fics alone. Oh god forbid a kid see sex on a fanfic site. The horror. The owners of the site need to pull the stick out of the collective rear ends and allow MA fics. Its a simple as doing what AFF does. AFF covered their buts legally using the warning and e-signature so they can't be sued and the like, no reason FF.net can't do the same

6/30/2012 #10
Zokolov

I'm a bit on the fence about deleting signed reviews. It would allow us to get rid of spam, at least, and some obvious flames, but it's also annoying that the more immature authors here would delete every review that's even slightly negative. Like, you offer some gentle concrit or kindly tell that reading the fic was impossible due to the horrible grammar, and poof, review deleted.

I hate MST-fics. Sporking bad fanfics on some other place or doing dramatic readings (or Topless Robot's commentaries) are mostly funny, if a bit overdone, but posting a fic that's basically someone else's stuff with some asinine commentary is just stupid. I have way more respect for those who at least try to make their own stuff rather than just reposting someone else's stuff and going all, hey, let's laugh at this.

And the admins have cracked down on real person fics quite a lot.

Overall, the site's just fine. Sure, it could use improvement, but what doesn't? And besides, it's been doing just fine and has gradually improved throughout the years.

7/1/2012 . Edited 7/1/2012 #11
KageNoNeko

And the admins have cracked down on real person fics quite a lot.

Oh, just do a search using One Direction and you will find a ton. Also someone told me that Misc. Plays/Musicals was hard to navigate because it was full of band fics on the first page.

7/1/2012 #12
Zokolov

Yes, One Direction is the one I was trying to tell about. Of course there's a ton, because people writing about them fail to realize that it's not allowed and they can't be stopped pre-emptively, sadly. But I've also a reported a load of them and am happy to say that most of the ones I reported were deleted. Whenever I say that real person fics are against the rules, the response (if there is one) is invariably "well, everyone else are doing it".

No worries, though, it's the same thing as when people were writing about Jonas Brothers or whoever a few years ago and that died down pretty quickly. Sadly, people still write about The Beatles, far too often about the band having sex with each other.

7/1/2012 . Edited 7/1/2012 #13
XxxCathylovexxX

There's something else I would like to see. A fanon/canon option for certain fandoms. I mean, sometimes I want to read canon and I have to navigate through all the fanon.

7/1/2012 #14
s class wizard

Agreed!

I really don't get why many consider MST/commnetary fics as "cyberbullying" though, especially when the orignal fic was racist and homophobic*cough*jO bekke at HUgwRts*cough*.

7/1/2012 #15
XxxCathylovexxX

I guess that, to be fair, FF had to ban it ALL, rather than those who only want to MST offensive/insulting fics. If it's a badfic, it can be considered cyber-bullying.

7/1/2012 #16
The Sleeping Tide

MSTs are considered and rightfully so cyber-bullying and plagiarism. There are plenty of off site places they can be posted to but any one who does post them has o right to whine when they get called a plagiarist.

7/2/2012 #17
Abramus5250

1. Maybe a kind of filter that goes by average chapter length? I don't like finding a 100,000 word story that has 1 zillion chapters because the writer can't make them mesh well enough together or something.

2. I agree with all of the above on MA stuff: get a filter where only those 18 and older can view it and only if they have an account. It's the same for all other similar sites, so why not this one?

3. Make sub-genres for different items: put het in a het category and slash in a different one. I don't want to sound homophobic, but I get kinda tired of trying to find a good story that doesn't involve two dudes going at it, especially when I try to find a story that centers around one main character and has no pairing. Maybe they should offer the option of NONE for a second character.

4. Something similar to a mandatory writing rubric, so people don't write crap and cry when it gets bad reviews.

7/10/2012 #18
The Sleeping Tide

2. I agree with all of the above on MA stuff: get a filter where only those 18 and older can view it and only if they have an account. It's the same for all other similar sites, so why not this one?

Because Ff.net doenst want to be bothered with effort of putting a filter in for NC-17 fics because they are lazy or they don't want to deal with the scores of people whining about NC-17 even though its clearly marked

4. Something similar to a mandatory writing rubric, so people don't write crap and cry when it gets bad reviews.

Won't stop people from writing crap then crying when it gets bad reviews. Most people who write bad crap believe their bad writing should only get good reviews and never bad ones and blame every one but themselves for the bad writing

3. Make sub-genres for different items:

Won't happen for the same reason why we won't get NC-17 filters. People will whine about there being yaoi and whine even more and demand it be taken down because its offensive

7/11/2012 #19
Abramus5250

Okay, what about a way to track the times people looked at a story to see when an author should publish a chapter? You know, instead of waking up early to get the most views, maybe they can wake up later if a vast majority of their readers do the same. Besides, people in other countries can wait for the chapters like I would.

7/11/2012 #20
XxxCathylovexxX

Yeah, that's a good idea as well!

7/20/2012 #22
XxxCathylovexxX

You should also be able to hide reviews if we can't remove them completely. I'd also like an option where you can hide stories instead of removing them completely, and an option where only those with the link can read the story.

7/20/2012 #24
Ebony Maria Brown

I do not know if anyone has suggest this, but what if this site had a ranking system much like YouTube?

7/20/2012 #25
AnarchyWriter
Ebbs has a point, Also, I fee they should allow Scrptfics and MSTs.
7/20/2012 #26
XxxCathylovexxX
Yeah, Ebbs has a great point. I would love a ranking system. I'd also like a thumbs up/like system for reviews/comments (mostly for concritters) so that people can decide whether or not the said review was fair or if people agree with it. Scriptfics I would like to see on the site. Mostly for the sake of parodies and that stuff. As for MSTs, I'm kinda on the fence...
7/20/2012 #27
Ebony Maria Brown

I too agree with Scriptfics. MST - which I assume are commentaries - are plagerism, therefore should not be allowed. They also involve cyberbullying. Scriptfics might lead to bad writing, which is why they ban them. When I was me mentioning a ranking system, I meant the stories themselves. I doubt a ranking system would work for reviews. A ranking system would allow for people to censor less well written fanfics and only be able to read the good stuff.

7/20/2012 #28
XxxCathylovexxX

Ebbs, MSTing isn't exactly plagiarism, but if the said fic is offensive (Like jO bekke at Hugwrts) then I say it's fine to MST it. However, if it's just a badfic, then it might be cyber-bullying. That's what I meant about being on the fence about such stuff.

7/20/2012 #29
Zokolov

I wouldn't allow scriptfics, although of course it won't stop others from making them, even if it is forbidden. It's just sort of a lazy way to do it. And there are other places to put those. And I agree that MST's fall into the plagiarism/cyberbullying line, regardless of who it's done to. I mean, reposting someone else's stuff with some pointless commentary added? Why don't people rather take the time to write their own stuff?

Now parodies of someone's fics I might accept, though I still think it's just better to come up with your own stuff. It's easy to mock others, not so easy to try and do things yourself

7/21/2012 #30
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