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demolition18

I have written 3 entries for Demolition Man. No one else has written any. I have some links here.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2352494/1/

Many of us these days write fan fiction as a hobby. I have an account on www.fanfiction.net. I have 3 entries. We could fill in what happens before the beginning of the movie or something for example is what's going in on the Wasteland with Edgar Friendly, Alfredo Garica in the Wasteland along with the surviving cryocon henchmen while John Spartan with Lenina Huxley pursue Simon Phoenix (like when Simon Phoenix kills Zachary Lamb in what was cut out).

I had the idea that there's Denis Leary's character battles Jesse Ventura's character. Kind of like Denis Leary vs. Jesse "The Body" Ventura.

You fans could write in fan things like when Lenina Huxley and John Spartan go after Simon Phoenix and his gang at the Cocteau Center on what happens with the police and the scraps and when John Spartan is fighting Simon Phoenix for the last time at the cryo-prison.

Also ideas for when Simon Phoenix thaws out 6 thugs and recruits someone who could be a scrap. That idea of some of us fans is that Simon Phoenix had a mysterious offspring from raping a woman and he joined with him and 6 cryocons released from the cryo-prison and more of Edgar Friendly and the armed scraps battling the 6 cryocons (one of them is played by former pro wrestler Jesse Ventura).

I even had the idea on the history of John Spartan and Simon Phoenix (like Simon Phoenix and his criminal gang that are friends of his who get frozen with him were in league with a criminal mastermind who ends up killed by John Spartan).

Also the united criminals have rivals that are united. The villain's rivals are the Italian Mafia aligned with African gangsters in organzied crime and the tongs. The yakuza is sided with Simon Phoenix as one of the six cryocons was a yakuza assassin who than became the new boss after the boss was murdered by his rivals.

Another idea that I put in was that 6 cops sided with John Spartan going after Simon Phoenix and his friends with their employer were corrupted by the Mafia and they were killed by those on Simon Phoenix's side (all 6 of those cops). These are 6 cops in John Spartan's unit and one of them is a sgt. with him. This could lead up to Simon Phoenix being the new mastermind of a criminal empire. Those thugs of this criminal warlord are in league with some of those who get frozen. They couldn't been members of a gang of one of those thawed out in the end.

You fans could write in more ideas for the fan dom. There's a thing called fan canon. This is called fanon. I think that many of my ideas should be canonized like Denis Leary vs. Jesse "The Body" Ventura when Sylvester Stallone with Sandra Bullock pursue Wesley Snipes on the road and than Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes fight each other on the road and this is what happens to the big gun carried by Jesse Ventura's character.

Legacy of San Angeles is based on my novel idea while 2 other entries are ideas for a second and third film as of what they are based on.

Also those characters I created were Wayne Henderson, Freddy, Buster, Bella and Otto. Maybe after that Taco Bell visit when John Spartan defeated Simon Phoenix's offspring he recruited some former hardened residents of the sewers Wayne Henderson, Buster, Freddy and Marco Karachi a pirate captain. Just like shown in the movie Simon Phoenix's goons going after Lenina Huxley and John Spartan try to kill them with their hands rather than their guns. That other one throwing Cocteau's dead body in the fire takes a gun from that one killed by Lenina Huxley. The allies of both the hero and villain fight each other.

This would explain Simon Phoenix having under his control gang leaders and other kinds of criminals that might as well be individual criminals who end up dead or in the cryo-prison while gang members are killed that have the leaders under Simon Phoenix's control if you look him up on the villains wiki. Also there's one resident of underground recruited with 6 cryo-cons by Simon Phoenix.

Jesse Ventura's character to those on the way to the cryo-prison could hack up or tear out hearts of those without guns while the others are to be shot down by the 2 other henchmen as one regained conscious. Maybe Jesse Ventura's character would've stepped on the 2 men who tried to subdue him while he hacks up scraps not armed and shoots Chief George Earle, Dana Crystal Harris-Burke (a character I created), Derek Hammer (another cop I created) and Lenina Huxley while Edgar Friendly and his armed followers with Alfredo Garcia would've been shot and killed. This would be if Simon Phoenix impaled John Spartan to death before he froze the cryo-prison and other scraps with guns or flares before John Spartan with Lenina Huxley start going after accomplices to Simon Phoenix still free (and start going after even the criminal played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura) were protecting other cops from Simon Phoenix's new criminal gang.

There are rules against fan fiction on wikis. As from reading the novelization Simon Phoenix was said to be involved in prostitution as he had a murderous pimp under his control while he was also a hired gun so he's in league and joining forces with another criminal mastermind in the task to whack out organized crime rivals to him. There are cryo-cons that were under Simon Phoenix's control before being there that he released and a couple of others were part of the criminal gang to that criminal mastermind who hired Simon Phoenix. This would fit in Simon Phoenix releasing 6 cryo-cons to start a new criminal gang as they were friends with him or criminals under his control in the 20th century.

There are rules against real life actors used in the entries. I wouldn't included Arnold Schwarzenegger in politics but can't happen. Arnold Schwarzenegger in real life was governor of California from 2003 to 2010. Maybe he got elected in 1998 in the movie and became president of the United States in 2005 and retired the White House in 2013. None of that is included because of rules against real people that are celebrities. It won't happen in real life to have Arnold Schwarzenegger for president as they didn't bother to change anything and he went back into films.

Here are the fan fiction links like what you fans could write.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2352494/1/Legacy- of-San-Angeles

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5218042/1/Demolition-Man-2-New-Criminal-Wars

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5218030/1/Demolition-Man-3-The-Next-Demolition-Man

3/1/2008 . Edited 3/7 #1
demolition18

Here is below a time line for writing Demolition Man fan fiction. John Spartan going after Simon Phoenix Timeline

Circa 1994: John Spartan starts going after Simon Phoenix.

20th April 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of grand theft.

12th June 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of tax evasion.

28th July 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of jury rigging.

25th August 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of assault and battery.

18th October 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of murder one.

30th November 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of murder one.

25th December 1995: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of robbery.

4th January 1996: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of r***.

12th April 1996: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of grand theft.

2nd May 1996: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of manslaughter.

3rd May 1996: A warrant is issued for the arrest of Simon Phoenix on charges of Manslaughter.

Circa 1996: A bus containing thirty passengers is hi-jacked. Sgt John Spartan of the Los Angeles Police department captures fugitive Simon Phoenix. Unfortunately during the arrest the building Phoenix's gang were "hold up in" was destroyed. A later investigation revealed that this building also contained the hi-jacked bus passengers.

I am updating this thread. There are 2 other Demolition Man entries by 2 different girls. Someone else also wrote a crossover with the Pretender. Maybe any of you fans could write Lenina Huxley back stories. Those are like ideas for short stories. They can't be published into a novel due to the copyright law and we don't have written consent from Warner Brothers to even profit on the Demolition Man entries.

They leave unresolve the fates of 2 other cryocons including the one played by Jesse Ventura unresolved. It is clearly assumed that they went off to the cryo-prison and were blown up in the end. I have a chapter below on my entry of my idea on thier fate. Many of us assumed that all those cryocons that the villain had released are dead by the end. We could clearly assume that 2 of the 6 cryocons were killed in the Wasteland battle. We see one of them knocked out unconscious near the end but re could regain conscious and be shot and killed by Benjammin Bratt's character. I had the idea that Jack Black's character kills one guy with the dagger in his throat while Denis Leary's character shoots and kills another thug and it's the one played by Jesse Ventura at the cryo-prison secret passage when John Spartan kills Simon Phoenix. I also had the idea that the other one who threw the dead dictator's body in the fire and the one played by Jesse Ventura were in the lower levels of the cryo-prison and were blown up in the end as Sylvetser Stallone's character exited the cryo-prison after killing Wesley Snipes's character. We do see Sandra Bullock's character shoot and kill one of the henchmen near the end of the movie. Usually cut out scenes don't count.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2352494/12/Legacy_of_San_Angeles

The villains of the Demolition Man sequel are kind of like the Sherlock Holmes villain in the 2009 movie Lord Blackwood. Also there should be credited scraps that kill credited cryo-cons. It's those 4 with Denis Leary's character and Benjamin Bratt's character kill most of the cryo-cons already released by Wesley Snipes's character. It's 2 scraps shoot one cryo-con while they don't shoot Jesse Ventura's character. Jack Black's character kills a henchman in a blade fight. When Sylvester Stallone's character kills Wesley Snipe's character Benjamin Bratt's character kills the thug knocked out by Sandra Bullock's character as he got conscious again while the other one who threw Nigel Hawthorne's character's body in the fire is killed by that scrap who's African American in most of Denis Leary's scenes while Denis Leary's character kills that thug played by Jesse Ventura that kill Nigel Hawthorne's character. Usually cut out scenes don't count so when the hero kills the villain the allies of the hero kill the villain's henchmen. We see Sandra Bullock's character kill one of the men already released by that nasty villain. There is a scene cut out of Demolition Man when Sylvester Stallone fights Jesse "The Body" Ventura. We don't know how he defeats him. They were fighting each other assuming in the cryo-prison lobby before the final Stallone vs. Snipes battle.

1/3/2009 . Edited 3/7 #2
Galactatech

here's a question, why has no one bothered to make a Demolition Man RP?

1/16/2011 . Edited 1/16/2011 #3
demolition18

I have did some changes on casting thoughts as all this is left as fan fiction.

Demolition Man 2

The Good Guys

Sylvester Stallone (reprising his role from the film) as John Spartan

Sandra Bullock (reprising her role from the first film) as Lenina Huxley-Spartan

Troy Evans (reprising his role from the first film) as Deputy Police Chief James McMillan/Tough Cop

A small time actor as Alfredo Garcia as he has a minor role in the sequel otherwise Benjammin Bratt could have a cameo

Julia Stiles (Bourne films) as Holly Hammer [friend of John Spartan's granddaughters and daughter of the deputy police chief]

Anne Hathaway (The Princess Diaries Films, Get Smart Film) as Dana Andrews [John Spartan's granddaughter]

Christina Ricci (Bless the Child) as Kelly Andrews [John Spartan's grand daughter]

Not sure on who as John Spartan's daughter.

Bruce Willis (Die Hard Films) as Derek Hammer [the chief of police and Holly Hammer's father]

Stone Cold Steve Austin (WWE) as former Wasteland Scrap Ryan [a scrap introduced in the Demolition Man side stories and written out of movie]

Don "The Dragon" Wilson (martial arts actor who played a gang leader in Batman Forever and he's a real life kickboxer) as former Wasteland Scrap Jason [a scrap introduced in the Demolition Man side stories and written out of movie]

Not sure on who to play Joey or Melissa Spartan the children of John Spartan with Lenina Huxley-Spartan.

Lance Henriksen (Hard Target, Super Mario Brothers) as James Huxley [the mayor of San Angeles and Lenina Huxley-Spartan's father]

Paul Reubens (played Pee-Wee Herman) as Jack Hensen [the deputy mayor of San Angeles]

Honor Blackman (Played P*** Galore in Goldfinger) or Ursula Andress (played Honey Rider in Dr. No) older Dana Crystal Harris-Burke

Not sure on who to play Annette Huxley the mother of Lenina Huxley-Spartan.

Bad Guys on Simon Phoenix's Side Terrence Howard (Iron Man, Fighting) as Mac/Simon Phoenix Jr. [offspring of Simon Phoenix who was a scrap traitor]

Kim Coates (Innocent Blood) as Wayne Henderson [Smuggling boss in league with Simon Phoenix's mysterious offspring]

Not sure on who as Marco Karachi the pirate captain.

Allison Mack (played Chloe Sullivan on TV's Smallville) as Bella [the female goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Dennis Rodman (NBA super star who starred with Jean-Claude Van Damme in Double Team) as Buster [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Booker T. (TNA, WWE) as Freddy [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Adam Copeland (Edge in the WWE) as Otto [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Sherlock Holmes villain Lord Henry Blackwood Type Villains Rivals to Simon Phoenix Jr's crime syndicate

Robert Carlyle (The World is Not Enough, Eragon) as Orlando Keller [California administrator and occult leader]

Jennifer Lions (Devil's Prey, Transylmania) as Sabrina Miller [evil high priestess]

The Undertaker (WWE) as Holy Thug Barney

Kane (WWE) as Holy Thug Ian

Taylor Swift (singer known for the song Love Story) as Holy Thug Kira

Britney Spears (pop star) as Holy Thug Lena

Justin Timberlake (N'Sync) as Holy Thug Jake

JC Chavez (N'Sync) as Holy Thug Philippe

Lance Bass (N'Sync) as Holy Thug Lance

Chris Kirkpatrick (N'Sync) Holy Thug Buzz

Joey Fatone (N'Sync) Holy Thug Albert

Joe Manganiello (Spider-Man movie) as Holy Thug Mic [Sabrina Miller's top lieutenant and biker gang leader]

Justin Neill (he played an unaccredited role in the first Spider-Man film) as Holy Thug Bone [Sabrina Miller's top lieutenant]

Chris Ackerman (played the Hand Ninja Tattoo in the Elektra Movie) as Holy Thug Rob [Sabrina Miller's top lieutenant]

Stunt performers as the holy thugs.

Demolition Man 3: The Next Demolition Man

Unknown who could become famous and into action movies as Joey Spartan the son of John Spartan and Lenina Huxley-Spartan.

Jason Statham (The Expendables, Celluar, The Transporter films) as Howard Taylor and Baxter Kilgore [Howard Taylor is the main villain of this sequel and Baxter Kilgore is the criminal mastermind from the 20th century]

John Cena (WWE superstar who played in the Marine and 12 Rounds) as Timothy Bottoms [Atlantic County cop who partners with Joey Spartan]

Unknown actress who could become famous as Lana Page [love interest to Joey Spartan and news person]

Dolph Lundgren (The Expendables, Rocky 4, Masters of the Universe movie released in 1987) as Ariel Berry head of the Atlantic County police

Kim Coates (Innocent Blood) as Wayne Henderson [Smuggling boss in league with Simon Phoenix's mysterious offspring]

Not sure on who as Marco Karachi the pirate captain.

Allison Mack (played Chloe Sullivan on TV's Smallville) as Bella [the female goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Dennis Rodman (NBA super star who starred with Jean-Claude Van Damme in Double Team) as Buster [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Booker T. (TNA, WWE) as Freddy [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Adam Copeland (Edge in the WWE) as Otto [a goon to Simon Phoenix Jr.]

Laura Vandervoort (TV's Smallville) as a younger Dana Crystal Harris.

Not sure but maybe the same person as Joey Spartan to play a younger John Spartan.

Not sure on who to play a younger Captain Healy.

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Maybe if there were Demolition Man prequels or sequels with those mobsters or that villain from the back stories cloned I have thoughts of who should play them. I have casting thoughts below.

Michael Ironside (1990 Total Recall, Top Gun) as Henry Yates [John Spartan's army commander and criminal mastermind who hired Simon Phoenix to whack out the Italian Mafia godfather of Los Angeles]

Daniel Bernheart (The Matrix films, played Siro on the Mortal Kombat television series) as Jack Jones [a second in command of Henry Yates's criminal empire]

Chazz Palmintery (Analyze This, The Usual Suspects) as Dominic Palmentarri [LA god father rivals to Simon Phoenix's criminal empire]

Dennis Farina (Midnight Run, Out of Sight) as Sonny Lindi (Italian mob godfather murdered by Simon Phoenix before and his criminal empire were in league with Henry Yates]

Vince Cuyratola (played Johnny Sack on the Sopranos) as Anthony Marconi and Sonny Marconi [Italian father and son running the Mafia]

Ray Abruzzo (TV's The Sopranos) as Frankie and Frankie Jr. [father and son in the Italian Mafia and under boss]

David Proval (TV's The Sopranos) as Teddy [Italian mobster in New York City before John Spartan was born and under boss]

Robert Funaro (TV's The Sopranos) as Charlie [Italian mobster before John Spartan was born]

Joseph R. Gannascoli (TV's the Sopranos) as Louie [Italian Mafia under boss]

Steve Van Zandt (TV's the Sopranos) as Mario [Italian Mafia under boss]

James Gandolfini (played Tony Soprano on TV's The Sopranos) as Vinnie Cirica [mob captain to Dominic Palmentarri]

Vincent Pastore (TV's the Sopranos) as Robert Pastore [mob captain to Dominic Palmentarri]

Laurence Fishburne (Death Wish 2, Hoodlum) as Luther Rockwell [African mob boss]

Jet Li (Cradle 2 The Grave, The Expendables, Lethal Weapon 4) as Lee Chang [head of the Tongs]

Tony Sirico (played Pauly on TV's The Sopranos) as Raymond Edward Sorvino [mob enforcer who became a lieutenant in the Palmentarri crime family]

Paul Ben-Victor (Daredevil, True Romance) as Danny Martinetti [lieutenant in the Palmentarri crime family and boss of contract killers]

Michael Imperolli (TV's The Sopranos) as Jason Valentine [lieutenant in the Palmanterri crime family]

Dan Grimaldi (TV's The Sopranos) as Tony Guido [lieutenant in the Palmanterri crime family]

William Forsythe (The Devil's Rejects, Out For Justice, The Rock) as Captain Charlie Rogers [captain of the LA PD before Steve Healy]

Sheri Moon Zombie (wife of Rob Zombie who played Baby Firefly in House of 1,000 Corpses and The Devil's Rejects) as Eliza Petty [evil Satanic high priestess]

Woody Harleson (White Men Can't Jump, Money Train) as Ranger Captain Halstrum [a Texas Ranger who goes after Simon Phoenix in the 12 state manhunt]

Sean Bean (Goldeneye, Patriot Games) as Detective Nick Kimble [friend of John Spartan's from Internal Affairs]

Clearence Gilyard Jr. (played Ranger James Trivette on TV's Walker Texas Ranger) as Detective Moore [friend of John Spartan's from Internal Affairs]

Liam Neeson (The A-Team Movie, The Dead Pool, Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace] as Detective Jackson [friend of John Spartan's from Internal Affairs]

Erika Christensen (Swim Fan, Traffic) as Lisa Earle [daughter of Chief George Earle who joined the SA PD and transferred to NY PD]

Scott Speedman (Dark Blue) as Matt Higgins [animal rights activist murdered by Simon Phoenix]

Tom Sizemore (Heat, Passenger 57) as Boris Knox [criminal mastermind in New York City]

Vinnie Jones (X-Men: The Last Stand, The Condemned) as Blake Nixon [Gang Leader in New York City in league with Boris Knox]

Kelly Kelly (WWE Diva) as gang leader Christina Slade

Michael Rooker (The Replacement Killers, The 6th Day) as Chris Dillon [veteran officer assigned to John Spartan on his rookie days]

Rocco Sisto (Innocent Blood, TV's The Sopranos) as Luciano Almeio [Mafia boss 10 years after the movie taking place coming into the free San Angeles]

This is as those characters don't appear in my sequels but who I thought of on those roles I had in mind.

10/9/2014 . Edited 5/4 #4
demolition18

Both Baxter Kilgore and Henry Yates have been cloned in between Special Legacy and Lisa Earle. Gus Hawkins was very much a fascist. This was for eternal prohibition.

10/20/2014 #5
demolition18

There are allot of entries on the movie Titanic on the fan fiction site. I am thinking Demolition man wasn't as big as Titanic. Titanic is one of my favorite movies along with Demolition Man. I saw most Arnold Schwarzenegger films and the Arnold Schwarzenegger films I did entries on are The Running Man (also Jesse The Body Ventura in that as I wrote one sequel) and Kindergarten Cop (2 sequels).

Also those characters I created were Wayne Henderson, Freddy, Buster, Bella and Otto. Maybe after that Taco Bell visit when John Spartan defeated Simon Phoenix's offspring he recruited some former hardened residents of the sewers Wayne Henderson, Buster, Freddy and Marco Karachi a pirate captain. Just like shown in the movie Simon Phoenix's goons going after Lenina Huxley and John Spartan try to kill them with their hands rather than their guns. That other one throwing Cocteau's dead body in the fire takes a gun from that one killed by Lenina Huxley. The allies of both the hero and villain fight each other. This would explain Simon Phoenix having under his control gang leaders and other kinds of criminals that might as well be individual criminals who end up dead or in the cryo-prison while gang members are killed that have the leaders under Simon Phoenix's control. Also there's one resident of underground recruited with 6 cryo-cons by Simon Phoenix. Jesse Ventura's character to those on the way to the cryo-prison could hack up or tear out hearts of those without guns while the others are to be shot down by the 2 other henchmen as one regained conscious. Maybe Jesse Ventura's character would've stepped on the 2 men who tried to subdue him while he hacks up scraps not armed and shoots Chief George Earle, Dana Crystal Harris-Burke (a character I created), Derek Hammer (another cop I created) and Lenina Huxley while Edgar Friendly and his armed followers with Alfredo Garcia would've been shot and killed.

This would be if Simon Phoenix impaled John Spartan to death before he froze the cryo-prison and other scraps with guns or flares before John Spartan with Lenina Huxley start going after accomplices to Simon Phoenix still free (and start going after even the criminal played by Jesse The Body Ventura) were protecting other cops from Simon Phoenix's new criminal gang. There are rules against fan fiction on wikis. As from reading the novelization Simon Phoenix was said to be involved in prostitution as he had a murderous pimp under his control while he was also a hired gun so he's in league and joining forces with another criminal mastermind in the task to whack out organized crime rivals to him. There are cryo-cons that were under Simon Phoenix's control before being there that he released and a couple of others were part of the criminal gang to that criminal mastermind who hired Simon Phoenix. This would fit in Simon Phoenix releasing 6 cryo-cons to start a new criminal gang as they were friends with him or criminals under his control in the 20th century. There are rules against real life actors used in the entries. I wouldn't included Arnold Schwarzenegger in politics but can't happen. Arnold Schwarzenegger in real life was governor of California from 2003 to 2010. Maybe he got elected in 1998 in the movie and became president of the United States in 2005 and retired the White House in 2013. None of that is included because of rules against real people that are celebrities. It won't happen in real life to have Arnold Schwarzenegger for president as they didn't bother to change anything and he went back into films. Another thing in to retcon is that Simon Phoenix had the leader of the bloods under his control. That leader of the Bloods is put in the cryo-prison that a woman cop who paired up with John Spartan also kills members of the Juggalos and the rest resign in redemption. Also she was fighting a Hispanic street gang back in Y2K. There could be more to write.

There's after Edgar Friendly is sworn in as the mayor that woman cop who paired up with John Spartan against the criminal alliance lead by Henry Yates and Simon Phoenix joining forces tells him about putting the 1996 leader of the Bloods in the cryo-prison. Also when Joey Spartan is born that woman cop tells Lenina Huxley and John Spartan of a Hispanic street gang in Y2K and that she killed the leader of Maras as the surviving members also had redemption. I researched gangs of LA to be more realistic in the fan fiction. Like father like son making first arrests as rookie cops are on the Russian Mafia. There was a rival criminal alliance to Simon Phoenix lead by an Italian gangster and is most La Cosa Nostra. You fans could write more stories. In the remake saga that president elect wanting to rule the world with those San Angeles like laws is murdered by Howard Taylor a New Jersey criminal. Some hardened resident of the sewers came from Atlantic City, New Jersey to San Angeles California. Also in this fan fiction entry based on my ideas for a novel related to the movie the armed scraps with Edgar Friendly help John Spartan blow up the cryo-prison just as Chief Earle didn't realize that the cryo-prison was blown up but thinks that just a part of the building was blown up by John Spartan on his way of the cryo-prison. It's in a big building. It's Jesse "The Body"; Ventura we know who played Adam the cryo-con who did the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Mayor/Gov Raymond Cocteau. There are lots of street gangs in LA. That person running for president won the election and this idea for a story is in 2044 near the end of that year. You fans in the years could write stories with John Spartan and he's telling about other battles in the 1990's from the 2030's and 2040's in between some of my chapters like Baxter Kilgore is brought back to life by Dr. Cobbs who somehow escaped from prison if he was arrested and also managed to get the DNA of Baxter Kilgore with the help of Simon Phoenix's offspring and those other 3 who survived Simon Phoenix's 21st century gang. Baxter Kilgore clones terrorist mastermind Chris Banning with gang leader Sean "Loco" Sanchez.

Even gang leaders in league with Henry Yates back in 1988 as these guys are cloned with their gangs. This is like an idea on a story taking place in 2046. In the remake Dr. Cobbs could escape from prison and take years to put back in but here in the Sylvester Stallone movie continuity he doesn't both to clone any of Simon Phoenix's gang from the 1990's or 2032 or Simon Phoenix himself as the clone Baxter Kilgore is in league with Mac also known as Simon Phoenix Jr. John Spartan with his allies eliminate this clone criminal empire before criminals take over the world. John Spartan kills the clone Baxter Kilgore. This would be the start of clone thugs. John Spartan has an investigation on the cloning of old criminals when Gus Hawkins is running for president of the United States after that. Gus Hawkins of California congress who plots to outlaw unhealthy things outlawed by Dr. Raymond Cocteau as elected president of the United States plotting a moral America when becomes president of the United States in 2044 towards the end of that year. There's a terrorist organization first that is plotting to rule the world and kill the president elect and the vice president elect with the current president. John Spartan arrests this terrorist mastermind who was plotting to kill the president of then and the dictator elected president that's fascist. The terrorist mastermind from Northern California is Ronny Blade. He's the one who cloned criminals from the pre San Angeles as he's the big boss of bosses and Baxter Kilgore was the boss of bosses. Many members of his network are killed in battle by John Spartan and the freedom fighters and killed even by Lenina Huxley-Spartan and Alfredo Garcia. John Spartan with Lenina Huxley-Spartan and Alfredo Garcia arrest those surviving terrorists in South California. It's an American terrorist network. John Spartan equipped the SA PD to deal with terrorists after the fall of Simon Phoenix and his criminal gang just as John Spartan arrested this American terrorist mastermind. This president elect plots to bring back the cryo-prison to California like turning Alcatraz and San Quentin into the cryo-prison. This dictator elected a month and a half before being sworn in president is taking back Behavioral Engineering. Also this president elect is plotting to outlaw non Christian religions like Atheism and it's to be the law to be Christian.

Also a plot for cryo-prisons worldwide. That person running for president declares Edgar Friendly and outlaw and traitor and would plot to put him in cryo-prison with armed scraps. John Spartan with Edgar Friendly and the armed scraps are fighting for freedom to the nation. This president elect when he would become president would plot to rule the rest of the world after the United States with those laws for a moral world. Cigarettes remain outlawed but he even plots to outlaw tattoos and body piercings as of a fad free society. Edgar Friendly and his armed followers who were fighting for freedom from Dr. Raymond Cocteau. Bob who worked for Cocteau is a US senator. Edgar Friendly has this man who won the 2044 election for president removed for fascism. Also that president elect who's a dictator like Raymond Cocteau followed his footsteps and plotted to be an elect for life as president along with learning that Simon Phoenix had his gang kill Raymond Cocteau and that Simon Phoenix's gang were killed by John Spartan and his 2 partners with Edgar Friendly and his armed followers and that John Spartan killed Simon Phoenix himself. There could even be tales from the future on John Spartan having flashbacks dealing with other gangs like street gangs and motorcycle gangs. You fans could come up with names for the president elect and his running mate along with that terrorist mastermind. Those are stuff we could fill in for a Demolition Man saga as long as it's just left as fan fiction. Ronny Blade is the terrorist mastermind who cloned Baxter Kilgore having him as the boss of bosses with some other gangs. Gus Hawkins is the congressman from California pulling off a Raymond Cocteau. About the Demolition Man back stories that could even be based on ideas for a movie prequel there are updates on that. There are criminals Adam (played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura ) who does the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Raymond Cocteau in the future, Danzig (the one killed by Lenina Huxley), Gunther, Jed, Reggie with many others are part of Henry Yates's criminal gang that get put in the cryo-prison and in the future thawed out by Simon Phoenix. Henry Yates is a Northern LA criminal mastermind. Simon Phoenix also a criminal mastermind as he's from South Central LA is a hired gun to Henry Yates while Simon Phoenix is leader of the Bloods and has in his criminal gang look outs and guards various races. Juggalos and bloods become allies in that time. Beppo is the leader of the Bloods and is a gang leader under Simon Phoenix's control along the Yakuza headed by Kodo after the old boss is killed. Elvin and Francis who in the future as henchmen to Simon Phoenix throw the dead body of Dr. Cocteau into the fire have their own gangs. Simon Phoenix is the boss of bosses while the big boss of bosses is Henry Yates as he hired Simon Phoenix to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals.

Elvin is head of a kidnapping while Francis is a drug dealer behind the kidnapping of that girl as a little girl in the video shown in the movie when John Spartan blew up the mini mall rescuing that girl. Elvin leads a bank robbery. Howie is a pimp and drug dealer. Simon Phoenix is hired by Henry Yates to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals. That's how it all fits in. Those are in my ideas for prequel short stories. This is for fun and not profit. When John Spartan fights Henry Yates he kills his left over thugs. By the beginning of the movie left in Simon Phoenix's gang are his look outs/fortress guards. We could as a hobby write ideas for prequel, interquel, midquel and even sequel short stories. The sequel short stories are written in Legacy of San Angeles as more like Interquel as I wrote my ideas for parts 2 and 3 to this movie. About the Demolition Man back stories that could even be based on ideas for a movie prequel there are updates on that. There are criminals Adam (played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura ) who does the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Raymond Cocteau in the future, Danzig (the one killed by Lenina Huxley), Gunther, Jed, Reggie with many others are part of Henry Yates's criminal gang that get put in the cryo-prison and in the future thawed out by Simon Phoenix. Henry Yates is a Northern LA criminal mastermind. Simon Phoenix also a criminal mastermind as he's from South Central LA is a hired gun to Henry Yates while Simon Phoenix is leader of the Bloods and has in his criminal gang look outs and guards various races. Crips and bloods become allies in that time. Beppo is the leader of the bloods and is a gang leader under Simon Phoenix's control along the Yakuza headed by Kodo after the old boss is killed. Elvin and Francis who in the future as henchmen to Simon Phoenix throw the dead body of Dr. Cocteau into the fire have their own gangs. Elvin is head of a kidnapping while Francis is a drug dealer behind the kidnapping of that girl as a little girl in the video shown in the movie when John Spartan blew up the mini mall rescuing that girl. Elvin leads a bank robbery. Howie is a pimp and drug dealer. Simon Phoenix is hired by Henry Yates to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals. That's how it all fits in.

Those are in my ideas for prequel short stories. This is for fun and not profit. When John Spartan fights Henry Yates he kills his left over thugs. By the beginning of the movie left in Simon Phoenix's gang are his look outs/fortress guards. We could as a hobby write ideas for prequel, interquel, midquel and even sequel short stories. The sequel short stories are written in Legacy of San Angeles as more like Interquel as I wrote my ideas for parts 2 and 3 to this movie. Maybe in the prequel short story ideas of mine Simon Phoenix is a crime lord and hired gun in league with a criminal mastermind from Northern LA while Simon Phoenix had his kingdom in South Central LA. Adam (played by Jesse The Body Ventura) with Danzig (played by Billy Lucas) were part of a criminal gang to this criminal warlord. The rest of the 6 already released were criminals under Simon Phoenix's control that had their own criminal gangs while Simon Phoenix was also leader of the Bloods. Others that Simon Phoenix releases in the end of the film that were put there by John Spartan or his rookie to pair up with were part of this warlord's criminal empire. It's that Simon Phoenix and another criminal mastermind just as the cryo-prison was soon to start have joined forces. This could fill all this in like Simon Phoenix reunited with his elite criminals and releasing 6 prisoners to start a new posse. There could be stories in the future after the end of the film with flashbacks on John Spartan makes many arrests like being the arresting officer of the Heck's Angels Motorcycle gang or other biker gangs before his time going after Simon Phoenix. This could go from 1990 to 1993. It's almost 2 decades since the movie has been released. Still no deleted scenes but we could write many ideas for back stories in stories in the future with flashbacks to the 1990's and Y2K. I did some changes on the battle between the rebellion and Simon Phoenix's henchmen that survived the Wasteland battle to look out for as Jesse Ventura's character is trying to rip out hearts and crush allies to John Spartan as he pulls out a gun and knife both with making the move to step on a couple of scrap fighters. There was talks in the film that John Spartan arrested 1,000 criminals in 3 years. Also we could write stories to the video files of John Spartan shown in the movie.

This is a prisoner that got released by Simon Phoenix who was the mastermind of the kidnapping of that girl from a NEWS footage on John Spartan files before he got defrosted. All those chapters could've been comic books if they did them on the movie. The only comic books to this movie are the 4 issues retelling the story of the movie. If I had the legal rights I could publish this entry into a book of short stories. This should all be left as fan fiction. I have a thread that talks about what to assume or fates of the villain's henchmen. This fits in with my fan fiction. Still not as far as I know no new Demolition Man entries. I hope so soon more fan fiction on Demolition Man. The name of this dictator who ran for president of the United States is Gus Hawkins. Did any of you read my entries? Gus Hawkins visited California in the 2050's and was killed by Orlando Keller. In the remake he visited New Jersey and was killed by criminal mastermind Howard Taylor with a knife. He's always killed by a knife.

Those are below ideas updated for the movie related fan fiction. Like on ideas of stories in between the movie and my sequel.

This would explain Simon Phoenix having under his control gang leaders and other kinds of criminals that might as well be individual criminals who end up dead or in the cryo-prison while gang members are killed that have the leaders under Simon Phoenix's control. Also there's one resident of underground recruited with 6 cryo-cons by Simon Phoenix.

There are rules against fan fiction on wikis. As from reading the novelization Simon Phoenix was said to be involved in prostitution as he had a murderous pimp under his control while he was also a hired gun so he's in league and joining forces with another criminal mastermind in the task to whack out organized crime rivals to him. There are cryo-cons that were under Simon Phoenix's control before being there that he released and a couple of others were part of the criminal gang to that criminal mastermind who hired Simon Phoenix. This would fit in Simon Phoenix releasing 6 cryo-cons to start a new criminal gang as they were friends with him or criminals under his control in the 20th century.

There are rules against real life actors used in the entries. I wouldn't included Arnold Schwarzenegger in politics but can't happen. Arnold Schwarzenegger in real life was governor of California from 2003 to 2010. Maybe he got elected in 1998 in the movie and became president of the United States in 2005 and retired the White House in 2013. None of that is included because of rules against real people that are celebrities. It won't happen in real life to have Arnold Schwarzenegger for president as they didn't bother to change anything and he went back into films.

Here are the fan fiction links like what you fans could write.

[url]http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2352494/1/Legacy-of-San-Angeles[/url]

[url]http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5218042/1/Demolition-Man-2-New-Criminal-Wars[/url]

[url]http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5218030/1/Demolition-Man-3-The-Next-Demolition-Man[/url]

Another thing in to retcon is that Simon Phoenix had the leader of the bloods under his control. That leader of the Bloods is put in the cryo-prison that a woman cop who paired up with John Spartan also kills members of the Juggalos and the rest resign in redemption. Also she was fighting a Hispanic street gang back in Y2K. There could be more to write. There's after Edgar Friendly is sworn in as the mayor that woman cop who paired up with John Spartan against the criminal alliance lead by Henry Yates and Simon Phoenix joining forces tells him about putting the 1996 leader of the Bloods in the cryo-prison. Also when Joey Spartan is born that woman cop tells Lenina Huxley and John Spartan of a Hispanic street gang in Y2K and that she killed the leader of Maras as the surviving members also had redemption. I researched gangs of LA to be more realistic in the fan fiction. Like father like son making first arrests as rookie cops are on the Russian Mafia. There was a rival criminal alliance to Simon Phoenix lead by an Italian gangster and is most La Cosa Nostra. You fans could write more stories. In the remake saga that president elect wanting to rule the world with those San Angeles like laws is murdered by Howard Taylor a New Jersey criminal. Some hardened resident of the sewers came from Atlantic City, New Jersey to San Angeles California. Also in this fan fiction entry based on my ideas for a novel related to the movie the armed scraps with Edgar Friendly help John Spartan blow up the cryo-prison just as Chief Earle didn't realize that the cryo-prison was blown up but thinks that just a part of the building was blown up by John Spartan on his way of the cryo-prison. It's in a big building. It's Jesse "The Body"; Ventura we know who played Adam the cryo-con who did the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Mayor/Gov Raymond Cocteau. There are lots of street gangs in LA.

That person running for president won the election and this idea for a story is in 2044 near the end of that year. You fans in the years could write stories with John Spartan and he's telling about other battles in the 1990's from the 2030's and 2040's in between some of my chapters like Baxter Kilgore is brought back to life by Dr. Cobbs who somehow escaped from prison if he was arrested and also managed to get the DNA of Baxter Kilgore with the help of Simon Phoenix's offspring and those other 3 who survived Simon Phoenix's 21st century gang. Baxter Kilgore clones terrorist mastermind Chris Banning with gang leader Sean "Loco" Sanchez. Even gang leaders in league with Henry Yates back in 1988 as these guys are cloned with their gangs. This is like an idea on a story taking place in 2046. In the remake Dr. Cobbs could escape from prison and take years to put back in but here in the Sylvester Stallone movie continuity he doesn't both to clone any of Simon Phoenix's gang from the 1990's or 2032 or Simon Phoenix himself as the clone Baxter Kilgore is in league with Mac also known as Simon Phoenix Jr. John Spartan with his allies eliminate this clone criminal empire before criminals take over the world. John Spartan kills the clone Baxter Kilgore. This would be the start of clone thugs. John Spartan has an investigation on the cloning of old criminals when Gus Hawkins is running for president of the United States after that.

Gus Hawkins of California congress who plots to outlaw unhealthy things outlawed by Dr. Raymond Cocteau as elected president of the United States plotting a moral America when becomes president of the United States in 2044 towards the end of that year. There's a terrorist organization first that is plotting to rule the world and kill the president elect and the vice president elect with the current president. John Spartan arrests this terrorist mastermind who was plotting to kill the president of then and the dictator elected president that's fascist. The terrorist mastermind from Northern California is Ronny Blade. He's the one who cloned criminals from the pre San Angeles as he's the big boss of bosses and Baxter Kilgore was the boss of bosses. Many members of his network are killed in battle by John Spartan and the freedom fighters and killed even by Lenina Huxley-Spartan and Alfredo Garcia. John Spartan with Lenina Huxley-Spartan and Alfredo Garcia arrest those surviving terrorists in South California. It's an American terrorist network. John Spartan equipped the SA PD to deal with terrorists after the fall of Simon Phoenix and his criminal gang just as John Spartan arrested this American terrorist mastermind. This president elect plots to bring back the cryo-prison to California like turning Alcatraz and San Quentin into the cryo-prison. This dictator elected a month and a half before being sworn in president is taking back Behavioral Engineering. Also this president elect is plotting to outlaw non Christian religions like Atheism and it's to be the law to be Christian. Also a plot for cryo-prisons worldwide. That person running for president declares Edgar Friendly and outlaw and traitor and would plot to put him in cryo-prison with armed scraps. John Spartan with Edgar Friendly and the armed scraps are fighting for freedom to the nation. This president elect when he would become president would plot to rule the rest of the world after the United States with those laws for a moral world. Cigarettes remain outlawed but he even plots to outlaw tattoos and body piercings as of a fad free society. Edgar Friendly and his armed followers who were fighting for freedom from Dr. Raymond Cocteau. Bob who worked for Cocteau is a US senator. Edgar Friendly has this man who won the 2044 election for president removed for fascism. Also that president elect who's a dictator like Raymond Cocteau followed his footsteps and plotted to be an elect for life as president along with learning that Simon Phoenix had his gang kill Raymond Cocteau and that Simon Phoenix's gang were killed by John Spartan and his 2 partners with Edgar Friendly and his armed followers and that John Spartan killed Simon Phoenix himself. There could even be tales from the future on John Spartan having flashbacks dealing with other gangs like street gangs and motorcycle gangs. You fans could come up with names for the president elect and his running mate along with that terrorist mastermind. Those are stuff we could fill in for a Demolition Man saga as long as it's just left as fan fiction. Ronny Blade is the terrorist mastermind who cloned Baxter Kilgore having him as the boss of bosses with some other gangs. Gus Hawkins is the congressman from California pulling off a Raymond Cocteau.

About the Demolition Man back stories that could even be based on ideas for a movie prequel there are updates on that. There are criminals Adam (played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura ) who does the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Raymond Cocteau in the future, Danzig (the one killed by Lenina Huxley), Gunther, Jed, Reggie with many others are part of Henry Yates's criminal gang that get put in the cryo-prison and in the future thawed out by Simon Phoenix.

Henry Yates is a Northern LA criminal mastermind. Simon Phoenix also a criminal mastermind as he's from South Central LA is a hired gun to Henry Yates while Simon Phoenix is leader of the Bloods and has in his criminal gang look outs and guards various races. Juggalos and bloods become allies in that time. Beppo is the leader of the Bloods and is a gang leader under Simon Phoenix's control along the Yakuza headed by Kodo after the old boss is killed. Elvin and Francis who in the future as henchmen to Simon Phoenix throw the dead body of Dr. Cocteau into the fire have their own gangs. Simon Phoenix is the boss of bosses while the big boss of bosses is Henry Yates as he hired Simon Phoenix to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals.

Elvin is head of a kidnapping while Francis is a drug dealer behind the kidnapping of that girl as a little girl in the video shown in the movie when John Spartan blew up the mini mall rescuing that girl. Elvin leads a bank robbery. Howie is a pimp and drug dealer. Simon Phoenix is hired by Henry Yates to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals. That's how it all fits in. Those are in my ideas for prequel short stories.

This is for fun and not profit. When John Spartan fights Henry Yates he kills his left over thugs. By the beginning of the movie left in Simon Phoenix's gang are his look outs/fortress guards. We could as a hobby write ideas for prequel, interquel, midquel and even sequel short stories. The sequel short stories are written in Legacy of San Angeles as more like Interquel as I wrote my ideas for parts 2 and 3 to this movie.

About the Demolition Man back stories that could even be based on ideas for a movie prequel there are updates on that. There are criminals Adam (played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura ) who does the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Raymond Cocteau in the future, Danzig (the one killed by Lenina Huxley), Gunther, Jed, Reggie with many others are part of Henry Yates's criminal gang that get put in the cryo-prison and in the future thawed out by Simon Phoenix. Henry Yates is a Northern LA criminal mastermind. Simon Phoenix also a criminal mastermind as he's from South Central LA is a hired gun to Henry Yates while Simon Phoenix is leader of the Bloods and has in his criminal gang look outs and guards various races. Crips and bloods become allies in that time. Beppo is the leader of the Crips and is a gang leader under Simon Phoenix's control along the Yakuza headed by Kodo after the old boss is killed. Elvin and Francis who in the future as henchmen to Simon Phoenix throw the dead body of Dr. Cocteau into the fire have their own gangs. Elvin is head of a kidnapping while Francis is a drug dealer behind the kidnapping of that girl as a little girl in the video shown in the movie when John Spartan blew up the mini mall rescuing that girl. Elvin leads a bank robbery. Howie is a pimp and drug dealer. Simon Phoenix is hired by Henry Yates to whack out his Italian Mafia rivals. That's how it all fits in. Those are in my ideas for prequel short stories.

This is for fun and not profit. When John Spartan fights Henry Yates he kills his left over thugs. By the beginning of the movie left in Simon Phoenix's gang are his look outs/fortress guards. We could as a hobby write ideas for prequel, interquel, midquel and even sequel short stories. The sequel short stories are written in Legacy of San Angeles as more like Interquel as I wrote my ideas for parts 2 and 3 to this movie.

Maybe in the prequel short story ideas of mine Simon Phoenix is a crime lord and hired gun in league with a criminal mastermind from Northern LA while Simon Phoenix had his kingdom in South Central LA. Adam (played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura) with Danzig (played by Billy Lucas) were part of a criminal gang to this criminal warlord. The rest of the 6 already released were criminals under Simon Phoenix's control that had their own criminal gangs while Simon Phoenix was also leader of the Bloods. Others that Simon Phoenix releases in the end of the film that were put there by John Spartan or his rookie to pair up with were part of this warlord's criminal empire. It's that Simon Phoenix and another criminal mastermind just as the cryo-prison was soon to start have joined forces. This could fill all this in like Simon Phoenix reunited with his elite criminals and releasing 6 prisoners to start a new posse.

There could be stories in the future after the end of the film with flashbacks on John Spartan makes many arrests like being the arresting officer of the Heck's Angels Motorcycle gang or other biker gangs before his time going after Simon Phoenix. This could go from 1990 to 1993. It's almost 2 decades since the movie has been released. Still no deleted scenes but we could write many ideas for back stories in stories in the future with flashbacks to the 1990's and Y2K. I did some changes on the battle between the rebellion and Simon Phoenix's henchmen that survived the Wasteland battle to look out for as Jesse Ventura's character is trying to rip out hearts and crush allies to John Spartan as he pulls out a gun and knife both with making the move to step on a couple of scrap fighters. There was talks in the film that John Spartan arrested 1,000 criminals in 3 years. Also we could write stories to the video files of John Spartan shown in the movie. This is a prisoner that got released by Simon Phoenix who was the mastermind of the kidnapping of that girl from a NEWS footage on John Spartan files before he got defrosted. All those chapters could've been comic books if they did them on the movie. The only comic books to this movie are the 4 issues retelling the story of the movie. If I had the legal rights I could publish this entry into a book of short stories. This should all be left as fan fiction.

I have a thread that talks about what to assume or fates of the villain's henchmen.

The name of this dictator who ran for president of the United States is Gus Hawkins. Did any of you read my entries? Gus Hawkins visited California in the 2050's and was killed by Orlando Keller. In the remake he visited New Jersey and was killed by criminal mastermind Howard Taylor with a knife. He's always killed by a knife.

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demolition18

I have ideas we could come up with. This is in 2044 that Gus Hawkins is running for president. He's in exile by Edgar Friendly. Gus Hawkins was plotting to pull off a Raymond Cocteau with first the United States and then the rest of the world. Maybe Wayne Henderson was told while in custody that Edgar Friendly and one of his armed followers killed a cryo-con. 50 years after John Spartan put Simon Phoenix in the cryo-prison there is Mac who goes by Simon Phoenix Jr. that clones Baxter Killgore and Henry Yates. There might as well be other criminal clones. John Spartan kills Henry Yates and Baxter Killgore with those other cloned criminals. John Spartan is in battle with Mac and those 3 who came from New Jersey and joined up with Simon Phoenix. He shoots at them by the rivers and they are washed away as John Spartan fired a bazooka onto a support grid above that river. Maybe in those tales flashbacks like Kodo killing Glenn Andre of the FBI or glimpses of John Spartan making 1,000 arrests in 3 years like from 1989 following Baxter Kilgore killed to 1992.

Simon Phoenix's offspring in the original is responsible for cloning Baxter Kilgore and Henry Yates. In the remake saga there's Wayne Henderson behind the cloning of Baxter Kilgore and Henry Yates. That story to write related to mine is between Special Legacy and Lisa Earle. Wayne Henderson then in the remake goes to working for Howard Taylor. Wayne Henderson is not connected to Simon Phoenix in the remake but in the underground battle there are shots of Wayne Henderson without his head like glimpses as he joins attacking the good guys. When Edgar Friendly kills Beppo should be when Lenina Huxley and John Spartan reach the surface going after Simon Phoenix. There are changes. Alfredo Garcia is to kill the cryo-con that Lenina Huxley knocked out on the way to the cryo-prison. Maybe Edgar Friendly and one of his armed followers (this is played by Jack Black) in a side story kill a couple of the cryocons simultaneously while Zachary Lamb is killed by Simon Phoenix and that's when for the scraps to kill a couple of cryo-con henchmen.

When it shows that 2 of the 6 cryocons (one of them played by Jesse "The Body" Ventura) are indeed eliminated by the cryo-prison blown up as John Spartan was exiting on the lower levels. We see him only exiting the upper levels. It should instead be moments later rather than meanwhile.

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