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So, what are your thoughts? What choices would be something for me to write, what choices completely confuse you?

Also, if there are pairings you want to see in future polls, that you can make a good case for (provide at least a couple reasons why they would be a good pair), I'll defineitly consider it.

8/6/2009 #1

The choices look like the usual ones you give us. I am comfused why you insist on putting Chizuru/Orihime up when you make it really, really clear you would rather not write such a thing.

Rangiku/Isane looks like a lot of fun, even if you wrote for Rangiku many, many times by now. But more Isane is always good, right?

I really wanted to vote for Lisa/Hiyori but ultimately didn't. Lisa seems a bit like the type to be receptive to a relationship with another girl though, depending on how you interpert her favorite reading materials.

Rukia/Kiyone sounds rather boring to me. Kiyone isn't a character I get excited about.

Karin/Yuzu: You know I want it. Almost more to see how you would justify it than that it turns me on, but it would still be really cute.

Neliel/Cirucci: We have no idea if these two even know each other, but it's not too much of a stretch. You know I want some hot Arrancar loving! That said, I really would like more Neliel backstory.

Yoruichi/Rukia has promise. I still think Yoruichi/Kukaku would be awesome though.

I a future poll, I want to see Yoruichi/Kukaku. I just love that idea and they get along well enough. After Yoruichi left Seireitei she may have sought some comfort from Kukaku. I also want to see Loly/Menoly or any combination of Tia's fracción. There is no hint that Loly and Menoly are into each other but if they are into anyone it might as well be each other, unless you want to write a story where they violently rape Orihime. All the fracción clearly worship their Arrancar (except for Lilynette) so Tia/any of Tia's fracción would work, but Tia herself might rather difficult to work with. As a substitute, perhaps a story could be written about how two of Tia's fracción are pining for Tia but she isn't interested, so the two sad fracción find happiness in each other's arms.

If you are really into loli then Ururu can be paired with Karin or Yuzu, if you accept the filler they have spent together.

8/6/2009 #2

Thanks for the response.

Why I suggest Chizuru/Orihime is simple. It may not be that interesting to me, but I know a lot of people do like the pairing. If enough people want me to do it, I will be convinced.

I totally see Lisa with another girl as well. She's actually probably one of the easiest to push that way (aside from Yoruichi, Soi Fon, and of course Chizuru whose canonically inclined). it'd be fun seeing her with Hiyori (though I still want more backstory between her and Nanao).

Rukia/Kiyone does sound kind of boring. It's mostly just a filler choice to make it look like I have more options than I do. I don't expect people to let it win, but if they do, I can just do something very weird with the pairing and make it interesting.

I honestly have no clue where the Neliel/Cirucci thing came from, just a random idea that somehow persisted much longer than it rightly should have. It would be a fun, albeit very strange story.

Yoruichi/Kukaku definitely has a lot of potential. I've sort of stayed away from the pairings as I expected to get more information about their past relation at some point. As Kukaku hasn't appeared in a very long time, and the big past arc occurred without her, I'm beginning to think it's safe for me to approach it.

I've thought about Loly and Menoly before, both together and with Orihime (which I see actually working as real romance with some work in the case of Loly/Orihime). I would have to heavily rework the canon plot to work with them though, and I kind of want to see if they're still alive before I commit to the idea of using them. Loly in particular is likely alive, so I kind of want to know how Tite Kubo plans to work with her from her.

Tia's fraccion on the other hand have pretty much been established as dead, which sort of frees me to use them in stories set in the past. I kind of struggle to see very many good ideas out of the three of them. They have a cute relationship, but I don't see any one falling in love with any other. I do see them all falling for Tia, but I can't see Tia seriously falling in love with any. I'm still seriously hoping that we get to see some of Tia's past and it reveals that she had some sort of connection to Neliel. If she falls without something like that happening, I'll probably still consider the two of them as a pairing.

Ururu's cute. Not sure i'd pair her with Karin or Yuzu though. it's kind of hard for me to realistically see either. Maybe some sort of loli/non-loli story with her, but it's kind of hard for me to take that sort of thing as being serious. I could alway try a more serious version of the Ururu/loli-Nel pairing you invented...

8/6/2009 #3

Well if you think about it Isane and Rangiku would work since we have two women who have different views on self image. Isane is very shy about her image and often doubts herself. Rangiku is the exact opposite in the spectrum she is very self confident and not afraid to flaunt her attributes in open flirtation. Chizuru/Orihime stories have been done to death and the are nothing more than PWP I prefer a story with actual substance.

As for Rukia/Kiyone I agree that it would be boring and I think that Rukia sees Kiyone as a annoying little sister if anything. I think avoiding a Rukia/Kiyone would be a good idea. At least no one suggested a Yachiru/Nel pairing that would be treading into something of an sister complex.

8/6/2009 #4

Yes, Rangiku/Isane had an incredible potential (kind of hoping it wins). I'm surprised I hadn't considered it earlier to you suggesting it the other day.

With Chizuru/Orihime, the thing is, I would make it not PWP, as I strive not to write stuff like that. Non-PWP Chizuru/Orihime is pretty much unheard of.

The interesting part of Rukia/Kiyone is that Kiyone is older and higher ranked, making Rukia the little sister despite their personalities. I won't avoid it if it wins; as I said, the chance of that is not very good. If it does somehow, I will make the dull pairing interesting, as I said.

Yachiru/Nel would be cute, though they're a little younger than I'd like to use. I am sort of confused how that is any more sisterly than Karin/Yuzu...

8/6/2009 #5

Let's not get into that area. As much as I like yuri pairings you'd have to draw the line at Karin/Yuzu I don't do lolitas. To me that is wrong on so many levels having two girls younger than 12 experiment and have full blown sex. (Shudders in disgust.) Call me an idiot but sometimes you have to draw the line somewhere, now if the girls were older then it'd be okay but other than that I have nothing else to say on this matter.

8/6/2009 #6

Yeah. Karin/Yuzu would be kind of interesting for me. I would worry about my audience though. For everyone like you who won't read it because they're too young, there's another who wouldn't read it because they're sisters. I wonder how much of an audience that sort of story would actually get..

And I just thought it'd strange you'd mention how you were glad that Nel/Yachiru (who are both, by appearance, younger than I myself am really comfortable with) wasn't suggested, when a pairing with younger girls actually was.

8/6/2009 #7

Well there are worse pairings out there. I just can't really think of any. And when I sent that PM I was half asleep at the time, it did not help that I woke up at four in the morning and couldn't sleep at the moment.

8/6/2009 #8

I used to tease my younger brother all the time for being a pedophile, a hebephile, an ephebopile, and a rape fetishist, saying he would eventually become a child molester. Then I read a book called In Defense of Elitism and my view changed completely. In a chapter criticizing the radical feminist movement, the author brought up how some extreme feminists and Christian fundamentalists wanted to ban pornography on the grounds that it "demeaned" women, and accused these feminists of wanting to eliminate private sexual fantasy all together. The author then went on to say that if certain men are aroused by fantasies of "rape, bondage, and domination" then that alone is not going to mean they will all turn into serial killers. After that, I decided that my younger brother is probably harmless and should enjoy his fantasies peacefully. After all, there are a number of people who would be classified as pedophiles—far more than is apparent in real life—yet they never hurt any one. "Deviant" fetishes are actually quite common, privately. So now I don't really even have a line to cross when it comes to fiction. As long as it stays on paper, anything goes. That is my view of it.

8/6/2009 #9

You have a valid point. I know when not to push the envenlope further. Anyway I'm focusing on my fic and I try to avoid any issues that the reader may have but no matter what someone will have something to complain about.

8/6/2009 #10

That's quite interesting, Rabukurafuto. I quite agree that our fetishes really have little influence on our actual lives. My life would be pretty messed up if I had any desire to some how act out every thing that I look at.

It's probably just that I've been doing this so long without stopping, but there aren't any lines I'm afraid to cross any more in my writing. Of course borders do still remain, since I like my stories to make logical sense and a lot of fetish stuff doesn't naturally appear in most contexts.

8/6/2009 #11

Well I have to go it's 11:11 p.m. here and I need to get some sleep I'll log back in tomorrow.

8/6/2009 #12

Thank you.

Anyway, the commentary you gave is appreciated. A serious version of Ururu/Nel would be brain-breaking, but part of the reason I wrote that was to write it with a straight face. I think it is pretty pitiful, not even reaching a thousand words without the author's notes.

I find it hard to believe there is no connection at all between Neliel and Tia, given all the similarities between them. At least, that is what I am hoping. If there is nothing I am going to be be angry,

Lisa/Nanao sounds great too. I would love to see that.

Loly can magically achieve a new release and a change of heart and rescue Orihime from Yammy. Yes, that is what Kubo should do. Well, I think so, and who cares if it makes no sense.

8/6/2009 #13

Yeah the similarities with Neliel and Tia are alarming. I'm really hoping for at least some sort of past to be revealed for Tia, though we haven't got much information on the other Espada; Neliel, Grimmjow, Nnoitra, and Aaroniero withstanding, so I'm not holding my breath. I just really hope that if her current fight is her last, that it is Lisa who ends it.

Speaking of Lisa, I'm damn curious where Nanao is, period. It seems she's the only shinigami who hasn't been shown anywhere in like the longest time. I was hoping she'd arrive on site to meet Lisa again. That pairing seems like it has so much potential, Im frustrated by having to wait so long to see the inevitable reunion.

If Kubo moves things in a Loly/Orihime route, my love of Bleach will escalate quite a bit. I somehow don't see that happening, though I kind of do see a change of heart as a possibility. If she did live, what other options does Kubo have? She's pretty much useless as a villain now; I find useless villains who are not killed off usually become some sort of supporting character. If she does turn around, Loly/Orihime could have very serious potential

8/6/2009 #14

That is a good observation on what Loly's new role would be, should she live. Or she could be a joke character, repeatedly making poorly thought out attempts on Orihime's life and repeatedly getting killing but always being returned to life by Orihime, hoping this time Loly had learned her lesson. That would be kind of fun. Of course, it would be better if she just decided it was no use trying to kill Orihime and becomes her friend.

That reminds me, with a name like Loly it would be funny to pair her with Nel or Lilynette. It's almost too easy, with a name like that.

8/7/2009 #15

Loly could continue to try and kill or at least act violently toward Orihime but secretly warm up to her to where her threats become meaningless. I actually kind of see their relatiosnhip working like that.

And yes, her name... I totally could do something like that.

8/7/2009 #16

Hey I'm back and I really haven't been up to date with what's happening on Bleach thus far. I have a pairing idea Lisa/Nanao. Lisa served as a member of squad 8 before becoming a Visored so she must have met Nanao at some point. Looking at the two they look so much alike that they could be sisters but thier personalities are completly different. For example Lisa likes reading Hentai magna and Nanao hates perverted things. Not to stray from the topic but have you read any good fanfics as of late? I'm currently reading He Said She Said » by EroSlackerMicha and also helping Naruto EXE » by NeoNazo356 as you can see the links are up here. He said she said is a nice Femnaruto/Sakura pairing maybe you could try something like that penguin-Chan?

8/7/2009 . Edited 9/8/2009 #17

Well, I've already mentioned Lisa/Nanao. I've mentioned it and wanting to do it several times in this topic.

I haven't been doing much reading lately (been pretty much writing non-stop). Don't really have any fics to recommend.

And I've never really seen the point of changing gender just to make a pairing more interesting. There are usually enough actual girls in any show that I'm willing to write for where it's unnecessary.

8/7/2009 #18

True but the possibilities are always there.

8/7/2009 #19

What about you Rabukurafuto any stories you've read?

8/7/2009 #20

Mostly the things NinjaPenguin writes. I need to think about what other fan fiction I have read recently though. I will talk about it later.

8/7/2009 #21

Having thought about it, I cannot recall having read any fan fiction being written by anyone other than NinjaPenguin in recent memory. Oh, well, there was that plotless little Final Fantasy VII breast expansion story a very days ago, but that was on a different web site...Mostly I have been busy waiting for my writing computer to be made fuctional again. In the meantime, I pass the time by playing Super Princess Peach, Fire Emblem, Silent Hill, Star Ocean I: First Departure, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, and now Valkyria Chronicles and Valkyrie Profile. I just bought the last two today and am very excited about them.

8/9/2009 #22

I was talking to my sister and she suggested a Soi Fon/Orihime pairing and a Unohana/Orihime pairing and I have to admit that they would be interesting.

8/9/2009 #23

Those would be good. I am all for Orihime and Retsu. Both of them together would be great. Soi Fon is cool too.

8/9/2009 #24

You got both Valkyria Chronicles and Valkyrie Profile, Rabukurafuto? Awesome. They're both exceptional games.

As for Soi Fon/Orihime and Retsu/Orihime, neither seems too probable to me at the moment, but I'll try and give them some thought.

8/9/2009 #25

You're lucky Rabu all I have is a DS and the following games: Hotel Dusk room251, Yu-gi-oh 5ds Stardust Acellerator, Digimon Dawn, and Megaman Starforce Leo.

8/9/2009 #26

Thank you. It was a huge amount of money, but I could not pass up the increasingly rare Valkyria Chronicles and Valkyrie Profile; there was only one copy of each left at the department store. Plus, Valkyria Chronicles was at a slightly reduced price. I need to play those and think about possible girls love pairings (or any pairing that I think would work well enough to write about).

Jiargent, do not worry; the D.S. has such a library of games that I think one could live off it alone for a long time.

8/9/2009 #27

Well I'm planning to get me a PS3 and some kickass games. Speaking of games I'm planning on doing a Guilty Gear/Naruto Crossover what do you think?

8/9/2009 #28

Valkyria Chronicles has a huge cast of units to chose from, about half of which are female. One of the girls you can use is canonically into other girls.

The original Valkyrie Profile has a good number of female characters you recruit as well (and the lead is also female). Their stories are fairly self-contained for the most part though, so there isn't as much girl-girl interaction as there should have been. Valkyrie Profile 2 might be slightly better in that particular aspect, though it isn't as polished a game in my opinion.

And Jlargent, if you do indeed get a PS3, get Valkyria Chronicles like Rabukurafuto has. Best game on the system.

8/9/2009 #29

No offence but I prefer fighting games.

8/9/2009 #30
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